1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Great the flick with. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Ben O'Shea Benno Shay, Good morning, Ben, Good morning guys. Yes, 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: people do love how to Make Gravy. It is an 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 2: amazing song. I love Paul Kelly. I love that song. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: I just want to get that out there. I'm not 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: a Paul Kelly hater before we get into the review 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: of this movie. So this big screen adaptation of the 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: song which is coming to Binge. People can stream it 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: right now. Look, you might be thinking, is it possible 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: to make a good movie out of a song? And 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: the answer is probably not really. There's like the history 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: of this sort of thing is pretty patchy, to be honest. 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: There was a movie Across the Universe a few years 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: ago on the Beatles song of the same name that 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: was terrible. That was terrible. You go back to the eighties, 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: there was a made for TV movie called Copa Cabana 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: that actually a really starred that actually starred Barry Manilow. 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: I don't need to tell you about that. You can 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: you can draw your own. Yeah. But but there's also 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: been some good examples, like there was a movie The 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: Indian Runner, which was Sean Penn's first movie that he directed, 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: that was based on Bruce Springsteen's Highway Patrolman. That was 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: that was actually pretty good. And there was the horror 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 2: movie from the eighties, The Hitcher starring Ruger Howard, which 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: which was based on which was which was based on 26 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Writers on the Storm. But I don't know that. Yeah, yeah, 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: and so either there's a killer. There's a fairly loose 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: connection memo, and I think this is the key, right, Like, 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: if you just are loosely inspired by the theme of 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: the song, I think, I think you've got a chance. 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: But if you're trying to do a literal interpretation, I 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: think that's where it comes unstuck. And that's where they've 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: gone wrong here. So Nick Waterman, in his debut feature 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: with his real life partner, the Aria winning singer Megan Washington, 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: Have a Dad, did Paul Kelly's song. But they've done 36 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: it so literally, like this is all you need to know. 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: At one point, there's a very slow, labored shot of 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: a gravy boat being passed around the table, and I 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: would say, I would say fifty percent of the film 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: is gravy related. Oh was. I was never convinced that 41 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: because the song is three minutes long, and I was, 42 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: I was never convinced that it was going to make 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: a hugely successful transition. Yeah, well, a big part, a 44 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: big part of the problem is if you actually read 45 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: the lyrics, which are incredible lyrics, but there's actually not 46 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: a lot of exposition. The only any lyric in the 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: film that hints to what has happened is when the 48 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: when the Joe character says, I really screwed up this time. 49 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: You don't but you don't know anything about what he 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: has done, why he is in jail, and as a result, 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: the film has kind of got to fill in the gaps, 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: and so the lyric in the song where it's like, 53 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: you know, I'll even miss Roger because there's no one 54 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: I want to fight in here. The film starts with 55 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: Joe played by Daniel Henshell from like the incredible but 56 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: disturbing Australian film Snowtown, very disturbing, so so he kind 57 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: of gets gets into a fight with his brother in 58 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: law Roger at a Christmas family get together and then 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 2: lands in jail and misses the next Christmas. That's basically 60 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 2: that's basically how the film is set up, and the 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: majority of the film is set in the prison and 62 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 2: sor sort of a prison drama, but it's the sort 63 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: of prison where, you know, some of the inmates are 64 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: capable of like pitch perfect singing, and they break out 65 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: into song yeah yeah, and you've got and no one 66 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: talks about that, and no one talks about no one 67 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: talks about the crimes that they committed, because that would 68 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: make it harder to see these criminals as lovable rascals. Yeah, 69 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: you know, Hugo Weaving is in the prison. He's like this, 70 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: we don't know what, we don't know why he's in there, 71 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: but he's sort of this older inmate who takes Joe 72 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: under his wing and realizes that he's struggling in prison 73 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: and says, you know what, why don't you come and 74 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: work in the prison kitchen. You can teach us about 75 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: your recipe for gravy. Gravy, you can make gravy, and 76 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 2: there's this there's at one point you sort of question, 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: hang on, did I not realize that gravy has magical properties? 78 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: Because they're all they're all standing around when Joe's making 79 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: gravy for the first time and they taste it and 80 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: you swear they've just been sipping from the Holy Grail 81 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: or something. They're like, oh, this is the most delicious 82 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: thing I've ever tasted. In my line, it's just bloody gravy. 83 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: Like you pretty much get the same result if you 84 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: crack a tin of grave looks powder, but. 85 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: Anyway I can get out of myself. 86 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: It's pretty much, you know, like people, people who were 87 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: evil try the gravy and all of a sudden they 88 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: change their ways. No, it's magical, magical gravy. Who knew 89 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: that the recipe for gravy contains so much cheese? Yes, exactly. 90 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: But it's an all start, all star cast though. Damon 91 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: Damon Herriman plays Roger, You've got the great Kim Gindel, 92 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: Brenton Swaits plays Dan, which is you know, from the 93 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: start of the song is like, you know high Dan 94 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: is Joe, and so you've got you've got these amazing 95 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: actors and look it's okay, it's not it's not terrible. 96 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 2: It's just it's just a sort of film where one character, 97 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: like Joe's wife says to him at one point, You've 98 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: got to stop crying with your fists. Okay, right, So 99 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: which is you know, what is? What is? What? Even? 100 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: Is that? Like they should have spent more time working 101 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: on the more time working on the script, and left time. Gravy, 102 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: Gravy related, so many loves Gravy, mulvaney and this as well. 103 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: She's Brennan in the twelve isn't as well? He plays 104 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: she plays Joe's Joe's this star, Who's Who's the one 105 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: who's kind of married to Rogers? 106 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: Okay? 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but and it's you know, the film is mostly 108 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: kind of focuses so hard on trying to make sure 109 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: that every name in the song. There's Dolly, there's Mary, 110 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 2: let's talk about Mary's boyfriend, you know. So there's a 111 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: lot of that going on. And I think the reality 112 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: is if you're going to if you're going to adapt 113 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: Paul Kelly song, personally, I would have picked to her 114 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: daughter backstory there, they got married early, they. 115 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: Never had no money, he got yeah, the whole story. Yeah, 116 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: it's a real tale of redemption as well, you know. 117 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: Or you know, yeah, written down to her door. 118 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben, that's amazing. 119 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but to that's what Well, the big question is 120 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: how many tins of grave ox are you giving it? Well, look, 121 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: because it's nearly Christmas, I'm going to give it two 122 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: and a half Yeah, thank you, Ben, I'm not surprised. 123 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, this project had been talked about for a long time. 124 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was it was always it seemed like, 125 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: sounds like a good idea at the time, but really 126 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: when it comes 127 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: Down to it, Yeah, yeah, all right, lovely, Thank you Benny, 128 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: Thank you guys.