Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land. Hi guys, and
Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode of Live on Cut.
Speaker 2: I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and I have had minimal to
Speaker 2: no sleep.
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear you complain because I did
Speaker 3: just offer to strip for you. I know, for your birthday.
Speaker 3: It is your birthday today. We should start with that.
Speaker 3: Happy birthday.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sorry, we're recording this a day in advance.
Speaker 2: It's actually my birthday tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but for everyone else's Laura's birthday today.
Speaker 1: Four guys, I'm thirty nine.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm thirty nine years Keisha, you just are horrified.
Speaker 4: Thirty That wasn't why I was looking horrified.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to connect my laptop because I've got something
Speaker 5: for you.
Speaker 4: But I just realized I wasn't as prepared as I.
Speaker 6: Should have been.
Speaker 7: Thirty nine. I know I went for not prepared either
Speaker 7: off for thirty nine.
Speaker 2: No, thirty nine feels okay still. Actually, to be fair,
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about age, like I'm not frightened about
Speaker 2: turning forty. I'm just a surprised I've arrived at the desk.
Speaker 2: I'm just surprised that I've arrived at the debth Wow,
Speaker 2: why can't I speak?
Speaker 7: It's because you're thirty nine. Oh my god, God it happens.
Speaker 2: I am surprised that I have arrived at the destination
Speaker 2: so quickly. That's what I'm worried about, and worry that,
Speaker 2: like life is.
Speaker 1: Moving too fast. And then eighty and dead.
Speaker 7: Big jump.
Speaker 2: Halfway to eighty guys, almost halfway to seventy eight days.
Speaker 3: I learned this the other day. You are halfway. When
Speaker 3: you turn thirty nine, it's your fortieth year of life.
Speaker 3: People don't think about it. They're like, oh, it's my
Speaker 3: thirty ninth year.
Speaker 7: It's not. You've already hit your fortieth year, but we
Speaker 7: call it thirty nine.
Speaker 5: This is kind of how they do the whole elevator
Speaker 5: floors where it's like ground or first floor, and then
Speaker 5: in some places first floor is the actual ground floor.
Speaker 7: And you know what I mean, Well, Laura's going to Pennur.
Speaker 2: I have a question when you say you only just
Speaker 2: realize this the other day. Yeah, you only just realize that.
Speaker 2: You don't call one one until you've turned it.
Speaker 7: But not that you don't realize, but you don't think
Speaker 7: about it.
Speaker 3: You just say thirty nine and you think you're thirty nine,
Speaker 3: but when you actually think, oh, it's that means I'm
Speaker 3: actually forty.
Speaker 2: Explain to you guys why I'm so tired in a second.
Speaker 2: I know I feel like at the moment that I'm
Speaker 2: complaining a lot. At the start of these episodes, it's
Speaker 2: been a big a couple of weeks. I'll tell you
Speaker 2: right later.
Speaker 5: Well before we get into that, we have heard from
Speaker 5: two people that are really, really instrumental in your life.
Speaker 5: They love you so much. It is not, in fact Britain,
Speaker 5: it's Ben. We have a little birthday message for you.
Speaker 8: I'm Molly. Happy birthday.
Speaker 1: It's Mommy's birthday.
Speaker 8: Happy birthday. I love you, you love we love you
Speaker 8: so much up to the moon and that it's you
Speaker 8: your birthday today and I love you very much and
Speaker 8: and happy birthday, Happy birthday.
Speaker 6: Love this.
Speaker 9: I love you so much. I wish it could be
Speaker 9: your birthday right, so I will give you lots of
Speaker 9: cattle and kisses. I give you pleasant and I'm key bla.
Speaker 9: You're kind of man.
Speaker 8: When I love you, I love you, I can lead
Speaker 8: to everything and evening your and eating your shock.
Speaker 1: From there.
Speaker 7: Hi, mommy, fine, we love you, we love you.
Speaker 3: They birthday, they love you, and happy birthday.
Speaker 10: What I'm getting from that is they take them to
Speaker 10: work too often. We love it when you take us
Speaker 10: to the shop and we get rocks. I really appreciated
Speaker 10: Lola's surprise it's your birthday at the very start, but.
Speaker 3: Just so you know, that message went on for another
Speaker 3: ten minutes. That was the same thing on repeat for
Speaker 3: ten minutes.
Speaker 7: We had to cut it down. It was like there
Speaker 7: was a lot of love and a lot of happy birthdays.
Speaker 1: They're the best.
Speaker 2: I mean, there're four and five. I don't know what
Speaker 2: else you we expect. They're so cute. Although I did
Speaker 2: know that they had made a message, I didn't know
Speaker 2: what was for here. And that's because I came home
Speaker 2: from work yesterday. Mony goes, hey, Mom, can we watch
Speaker 2: that birthday message we made for you on your phone?
Speaker 7: And I was like, why were I a lad? Nice things?
Speaker 8: Marley?
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's very very cute, guys, thanks for doing that. My
Speaker 2: kids never remember anything because they're too little, and that's.
Speaker 7: Shock when they realized it's mum's birthday. Well, happy birthday, Mom,
Speaker 7: Come away. To blow out your candles.
Speaker 2: To be fair, I've only taken Lola to the shop
Speaker 2: once this year, and I have there's one area upstairs
Speaker 2: where I have heaps of crystals, and so she went
Speaker 2: and she like took a little she took like no,
Speaker 2: she took like a whole bag of crystals that she
Speaker 2: picked out for her self, and beads and stuff. And
Speaker 2: it's funny the things that kids latch onto that they
Speaker 2: remember that they feel was really special to them. Like
Speaker 2: that to me was just kind of like we had
Speaker 2: to run in and do something. And she now has
Speaker 2: them and they're like her treasures.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very sweet.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Lola's treasures, the reason why I got
Speaker 2: almost no sleep last night is because we had a
Speaker 2: very important person visit our house and that was the
Speaker 2: dummy fairy.
Speaker 1: So last night.
Speaker 2: Was I mean, you guys, if you know I've spoken
Speaker 2: about a little bit, like Lola's four, she's very old
Speaker 2: to still have a dummy.
Speaker 1: I'm well aware.
Speaker 7: Don't come for me.
Speaker 2: I know when I almost say that in like defense,
Speaker 2: because there's always someone who's.
Speaker 1: Like it's too or like look.
Speaker 2: At her, look at her teeth, look at her overbite.
Speaker 2: There's always some so judgmental comment. It's been a really
Speaker 2: really hard process for us to get Lola off the dummy.
Speaker 2: It's been super emotional. There's been so many nights of
Speaker 2: just non stop crying. We tried a year ago and
Speaker 2: we took her off for six weeks and it was awful,
Speaker 2: Like she just never ever got better being off it.
Speaker 2: So six weeks and we took her to a like
Speaker 2: I have a girlfriend who's a child psychologist, and she
Speaker 2: was like, give her back the fucking dummy. She's like,
Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. She was like, I know
Speaker 2: she's old. She clearly has attachment issues. There's also some
Speaker 2: sensory stuff that we're like, you know, figuring out with Lola.
Speaker 2: And she was like, it's just not a big deal
Speaker 2: if it's causing this much to stress, like we can
Speaker 2: work on it later.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she didn't get n ears.
Speaker 1: Anyway, kids are always getting bracest those days.
Speaker 7: Everyone did it to be fair.
Speaker 2: She's gonna get a face left by the time she's
Speaker 2: twenty anyway, isn't that what kids do?
Speaker 7: I think at this point probably thirteen fourteen, but anyway,
Speaker 7: continue on. Once she's had a jaw religned.
Speaker 1: We joke it's not okay.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we were like a year on from that,
Speaker 2: and we kind of have been having the conversations with
Speaker 2: her ongoing around the dummy Fairy and how the dummy
Speaker 2: fairies coming soon. But we've been really encouraging her to
Speaker 2: set the time when that was gonna happen, and like
Speaker 2: set the day. Obviously with parameters around it, we weren't
Speaker 2: just like pick whenever she's like when I'm twenty five.
Speaker 2: So when we were away on the Gold Coast, she
Speaker 2: chose that last night was the night that the dummy
Speaker 2: Fairy was coming. Unfortunately for me, it also coincided with
Speaker 2: Matt being in Melbourne, so it meant that I was
Speaker 2: the only dummy fairy in the house and I was
Speaker 2: the only one who could actually like buffer her sadness
Speaker 2: and her big emotions.
Speaker 3: So talk us through like what the dummy fairy does,
Speaker 3: because we know like the two Fairy, we know Easter,
Speaker 3: but I don't know the job criteria of the dummy Ferry.
Speaker 2: When you think about when we were young, parents would
Speaker 2: just take your dummies off.
Speaker 1: You cut a hole in.
Speaker 2: It, kind of frontop of it, throw it in the bin,
Speaker 2: like there was no care around, like traumatous removal of
Speaker 2: the dummy. Now it's like the gentle parenting has really
Speaker 2: taken over.
Speaker 3: So do you think we're too gentle? I like, I'm
Speaker 3: so well adjusted and my parents did not teeter toteter
Speaker 3: to us. They was like they would have ripped that
Speaker 3: thing out and burned it to the ground front of us.
Speaker 5: But I want to defend you because it's not like
Speaker 5: your you can do whatever you want in every aspect.
Speaker 5: This is one specific thing that you've been like the
Speaker 5: juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Speaker 2: Until now, the dummy has been the one thing that
Speaker 2: has been really challenging for us. And it's because I
Speaker 2: liken it too. How lots of kids have like a
Speaker 2: flannel or a teddy or something that they've had their
Speaker 2: whole life that they go to bed with. Loads of
Speaker 2: kids have their little like attachment blanky or whatever the
Speaker 2: hell it is. Lola doesn't have that. She has her dummy.
Speaker 2: That's it, and she's like a full dummy conoscern Now,
Speaker 2: Like we'll go to the park and she'll be like,
Speaker 2: and Mum point out another kid and she's like, that's
Speaker 2: a nice dummy.
Speaker 3: It's like she's going past the car ya, and she's like,
Speaker 3: it's a great Lamborghini.
Speaker 1: So that's a really good dummy.
Speaker 3: She's like, that's top not just top shelf that calls
Speaker 3: it was that a two for one chemis so.
Speaker 1: The way that we did the dummy Fairy.
Speaker 7: Sorry, do you think she walks up to them and she's.
Speaker 3: Like, great compares great dummy, like just so you know,
Speaker 3: like choice, like how like.
Speaker 1: Chicks would like compliment each other's pants or something in the.
Speaker 7: Bathroom where you get that from? What's brand?
Speaker 1: Can I see the tea?
Speaker 7: Yeah, shah? Is it soft?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 7: That is supple?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I like the way shimmers?
Speaker 2: Okay literally literally, So okay, this is how the dummy
Speaker 2: Fairy worked in our household. Last night, I collected all
Speaker 2: the dummies so there was like five of them in
Speaker 2: the house, So collected them all up, put them in
Speaker 2: a bowl, right, and Molly made her a little picture
Speaker 2: like she made her like a drawing of the dummy
Speaker 2: Fairy and everything, and we left them all outside on
Speaker 2: the table with a little note that we'd written to
Speaker 2: the dummy Fairy about taking them and how like she
Speaker 2: could have them and take them to a magical castle.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. The story just got more and
Speaker 1: more elaborate.
Speaker 2: I had no control over the fantastical story that came out. Anyway,
Speaker 2: The dummy Fairy bought Lola some presents, and it's in exchange,
Speaker 2: the dummy Fairy takes the dummies, she leaves the presence.
Speaker 1: It feels like.
Speaker 2: Christmas, like, it feels comparative in terms of excitement. So
Speaker 2: Lola gave all of her dummies are kiss, she gave
Speaker 2: them all a cuddle, She put them into her little cup.
Speaker 2: She said goodbye, and she went to bed with a
Speaker 2: little toy that I'd given her as a present for
Speaker 2: being so brave. And she got into bed and she
Speaker 2: just had the saddest little cry. Like it wasn't a
Speaker 2: big cry, it wasn't emotional or screaming. She just had
Speaker 2: this sad, defeated little whimper. And she was like, I'm
Speaker 2: so sad and i am not brave and I am
Speaker 2: not strong, And she just cried and softly cried herself
Speaker 2: to sleep.
Speaker 3: And that cry, it's like when you know you're in
Speaker 3: a relationship that you love them, but you know they're
Speaker 3: not the one for you and they're toxic.
Speaker 7: So it's like it's like I requited love.
Speaker 3: You know it's got to end, but you're not happy
Speaker 3: about it, but you're making the decision anyway.
Speaker 7: That is brave.
Speaker 1: And she was really.
Speaker 2: Sad, just like just like this real pathetic sadness. Anyway,
Speaker 2: and then every time she woke up and meant they're like,
Speaker 2: trying to get her back to sleep was hard, so
Speaker 2: she didn't have that comfort thing. So I don't think
Speaker 2: it's a one night situation by any means. I think
Speaker 2: last night was the tip of the iceberg. I reckon
Speaker 2: we're in for some pretty bad nights because now that
Speaker 2: she's gotten the present in the morning and she was
Speaker 2: so excited, I think that it's gonna like spiral down
Speaker 2: the other side of the hill for maybe a week
Speaker 2: or two, and then I think she'll come out the
Speaker 2: other side good.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's what I will say is Laura one hundred
Speaker 3: percent has tried this many times. I will back that
Speaker 3: because we all went through it together. I obviously didn't
Speaker 3: have to go through the sleepless nights, but like you
Speaker 3: committed for.
Speaker 1: A long time, it's been a roller coach.
Speaker 3: Maybe this one is different because she's still gonna be sad,
Speaker 3: but she did come to the realization and the decision
Speaker 3: on her own.
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe she won't be as tantrum me.
Speaker 3: Because she doesn't feel like you've taken something from her,
Speaker 3: like she's given it up one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I think it will be different.
Speaker 2: I think that we got to a place where she
Speaker 2: made a decision, and with Lola, it's all about giving
Speaker 2: her control, like she needs to have control every things.
Speaker 1: You can't try and push stuff on her. She's got
Speaker 1: to figure it out.
Speaker 2: When she figures it out, I think she will be sad,
Speaker 2: but she understands, and that's the thing that's different this
Speaker 2: time to last time, whereas last time it was like
Speaker 2: we took it and we were punishing her and she
Speaker 2: didn't understand why.
Speaker 5: The only thing I think is interesting is that now
Speaker 5: she's at an age where she's like starting to understand manipulations.
Speaker 5: So she's kind of like old enough to be like, hmm,
Speaker 5: one one night without the domus, no presence to move
Speaker 5: to rest Or.
Speaker 2: It's even like she's at an age now where she's
Speaker 2: so smart, where she's like the dummy free took them,
Speaker 2: go to fucking chemists warehouse and get me another one.
Speaker 1: She's like, I have a solution.
Speaker 7: She's like, Mom, you've got Laura ten for ten percent off.
Speaker 1: She's just get me one.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Look, it's yeah, it's a hard one.
Speaker 7: She'll be fine.
Speaker 2: And you have these moments in parenting where like you
Speaker 2: have to have loving boundaries. The next one is getting
Speaker 2: her to sleep in her own bed. But she's just
Speaker 2: like my little she's my little tricky one. She's like
Speaker 2: a little Koala, and she's very sensitive and she just
Speaker 2: requires a little bit more softness.
Speaker 1: So we are going through the process and it's happening.
Speaker 1: It's underway.
Speaker 7: I'm very happy to hear about that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'll be happy in a like a month's
Speaker 1: time when it's over.
Speaker 3: I also had a really soft, pathetic cry. Yes, if
Speaker 3: you want to know why, So he Lola and I
Speaker 3: are very similar.
Speaker 7: I'm not proud of this. This is what I'm going
Speaker 7: to start this conversation.
Speaker 1: It's very funny.
Speaker 7: It's not that it is funny. Now that I've cried
Speaker 7: it out, it's funny.
Speaker 2: I will start the conversation with I received a message
Speaker 2: from Britt yesterday afternoon saying, hey, can you please pick
Speaker 2: me up from carrology at seven thirty in the morning
Speaker 2: and drive me to work.
Speaker 1: I don't have my car tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Then I also messaged Keisha and said, Kisha, can you
Speaker 3: please bring your electric hand screwdriver drill as well tomorrow.
Speaker 3: So two separate messages went to the group, Hey, can
Speaker 3: you pid me the same reason?
Speaker 7: Yeah it is it's the same reason.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I needed to pick up because I don't
Speaker 3: have a car and I need a screwdriver. So I
Speaker 3: was driving home from work yesterday in Sydney, very busy,
Speaker 3: cruising along, not speeding, and I see a police cart
Speaker 3: like zooming up behind me, a couple of cars away,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, it's got somewhere to go,
Speaker 3: so I better pull over. Did the thing like you
Speaker 3: are you pulled to the side. I didn't stop though,
Speaker 3: because on multile lanes, I just went to the left
Speaker 3: and then he pulled in behind me, and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh am, I not out of the way enough. And
Speaker 3: I kept driving and he didn't overtake me, and I
Speaker 3: was like, is he pulaying me over?
Speaker 7: And I was like, oh my god, I think he
Speaker 7: is the audacity.
Speaker 3: But I was like cruising at like fifty five kilometers
Speaker 3: like under the speed limit because it was peak hour traffic.
Speaker 7: Was I was not doing anything wrong at at the moment.
Speaker 7: Are you like, am I a drug dealer? Do I
Speaker 7: have guns in the car?
Speaker 5: Like you've never had one in your entire life?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: But I was like in my head, I was like, what,
Speaker 3: I'm not speeding. But it's also not a random breath chest.
Speaker 3: I was like, he intentionally has pulled me over. So
Speaker 3: I was like, fuck, So I pulled over and he
Speaker 3: gets it out and he walks up and puts his
Speaker 3: hands in his pocket. Um, can't have your larcense and
Speaker 3: registration police.
Speaker 1: He was not American, he was not from Texas.
Speaker 7: No, he's Australian. But that sounded better.
Speaker 3: License and registration please, And I was like, okay, gave
Speaker 3: me my license and registration.
Speaker 7: He's like, do you know I've been pulled over?
Speaker 6: Shy?
Speaker 7: I said no, I actually really don't. He's like, you're
Speaker 7: driving an unregisted vehicle, ma'am. And I was like what.
Speaker 3: He's like, you're unregistered and I was like no, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not unregistered and he's like, no,
Speaker 3: you are unregistered.
Speaker 7: What address are you at? He's trying to catch me out.
Speaker 7: What's your dress, and I'm tell him my address and
Speaker 7: he's looking at his little pad.
Speaker 5: Look.
Speaker 3: I showed him my license on my phone. I was like,
Speaker 3: it's on my phone and he's like, show me your
Speaker 3: actual license. Then, so I got him out the hard
Speaker 3: license updated address as well, and I was like, also
Speaker 3: updated address.
Speaker 7: He's like, oh, that's weird.
Speaker 1: He's like, you're oh, we've made it. We've made an
Speaker 1: internal work error.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, that's weird. I was like, I registered.
Speaker 3: I always register my car when I get sent my registration.
Speaker 3: That's how it works. I don't have an alert in
Speaker 3: my phone. It's one day a year. You wait till
Speaker 3: you get the letter and you register it.
Speaker 7: You know, I think that that's normal.
Speaker 2: I know it does seem like a terribly backward way
Speaker 2: of doing things, like why are we waiting for letters
Speaker 2: when we will have email addresses and phone numbers.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I wait for it to come to me.
Speaker 3: I wait for the reminder, right, I don't have it
Speaker 3: in my diary, which maybe I need to from here
Speaker 3: for it. Anyway, we have this conversation and I'm like, look,
Speaker 3: he's like, it's been sent to this old address.
Speaker 7: I said, I haven't been there in four years. I
Speaker 7: was like, that's on you. He's like, actually, I'm a policeman.
Speaker 7: I'm a separate party. It's not on me. And I
Speaker 7: was like, okay, sorry, And I was like, well.
Speaker 3: Does this still have to happen? Is it still a
Speaker 3: thing now that you know? He's like yeah, He's.
Speaker 1: Like you're driving an unregistered He's.
Speaker 3: Like, you've been unregistered for four months. And I was like,
Speaker 3: what for. You don't have to admit that, brain, I
Speaker 3: sort of have.
Speaker 7: To know because the next because the next part is
Speaker 7: I paid insurances and stuff.
Speaker 3: I just hadn't gotten the letter because it got sent
Speaker 3: to an old thing and it was from December, so
Speaker 3: I was overseas with Ben.
Speaker 7: That's my excuse. That was that's the end of my reasoning.
Speaker 3: Month, not even three weeks, but that's the registration time.
Speaker 3: That's when I was there, exactly when I was there,
Speaker 3: because it's just before Christmas that it was registered, so
Speaker 3: I just was not here not thinking about it, didn't
Speaker 3: drive for five weeks whatever.
Speaker 5: I also will back you and I've registered cars in
Speaker 5: many states in this country.
Speaker 1: New South Wales is by far the biggest piss take.
Speaker 5: There's so many different steps and also some of them
Speaker 5: you have to do, like you have to do them
Speaker 5: in order, and you have to wait for them to
Speaker 5: update their records.
Speaker 7: So if you get CTP, you've got.
Speaker 5: To wait for that so that you can actually feel
Speaker 5: like you've read your because they need the tick of
Speaker 5: approval from the people before and if you need a
Speaker 5: blue sleep and if it's such a nightmare.
Speaker 3: The lady on the phone validated me completely. She goes
Speaker 3: just so you know, New South Wales is the most
Speaker 3: fucked state for the registration. I was like, thank you.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 3: Anyway, so it gets worse. I was like, okay, so
Speaker 3: this does have to go forward. He's like, yes, three
Speaker 3: thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Fine, that's upset.
Speaker 3: I was like, but it's not my fault, and he's like,
Speaker 3: not mine either. So then he's like, you actually can't
Speaker 3: drive now, and I was like I was just down
Speaker 3: the road. So he's like, you have to drive straight
Speaker 3: to a mechanic. So I had to sit on the
Speaker 3: side of the road and phone around until someone could
Speaker 3: see me. Found a mechanic, drove straight there. He pulled
Speaker 3: over in front of me. He was watching me, he
Speaker 3: was checking. I'm like, okay, cool, so I went down.
Speaker 3: I've been on the phone for all afternoon while my
Speaker 3: car's going together. At the check, you don't need a
Speaker 3: normal check when you're unregistered. I tried to register it
Speaker 3: on the spot. He's like, you need to register on
Speaker 3: the spot, was watching me. I tried to register it. It
Speaker 3: says you don't have a registration any more. It's canceled.
Speaker 7: It's gone.
Speaker 3: I couldn't do anything, and it's empty serving yourself. I
Speaker 3: was empty and I was like, oh my actual god.
Speaker 7: Then they call me.
Speaker 1: And they're like, no longer exists.
Speaker 7: Now it's a ghost car.
Speaker 3: Then they were like, you need to before we can
Speaker 3: even do anything, you need to come in and surrender
Speaker 3: your plates. And I was like, surrender my plates? I
Speaker 3: was like what, They're like, surrender your plates? We can't
Speaker 3: do anything. Do you surrender you I was like, that's
Speaker 3: like I'm a criminal. I was like, well, do I
Speaker 3: have to walk in with my plates and be like
Speaker 3: don't you So? Now like it's not a normal registration.
Speaker 3: To do alafety check, you got to do a blue slip,
Speaker 3: which is this like thorough feel ups, like getting felt
Speaker 3: up when you go through security. Then I have to
Speaker 3: go through all the registration, I had to cancel all
Speaker 3: these other stuff. Now I've got to undrill my plates.
Speaker 3: I don't even know how to take plates off, but
Speaker 3: I'm going to figure it out surrender them.
Speaker 7: And then when I surrender them.
Speaker 3: And I have to uber there because I have to
Speaker 3: everywhere because I can't drive my car with no plates,
Speaker 3: then I have.
Speaker 7: To go get new plates given to me.
Speaker 3: Uber back to the mechanic, unsurrender them and put new
Speaker 3: plates back on. Then everything, if you think about the admin,
Speaker 3: everything is attached to it, all the tolls, all the
Speaker 3: pay apps, everything is attached.
Speaker 1: To my That is devastating.
Speaker 7: I was devastated. And then can I tell you the
Speaker 7: last thing that made me really upset?
Speaker 3: Actually I was really upset because that's when I just
Speaker 3: really wanted a man in the house because I was like,
Speaker 3: I just want you to fix this problem.
Speaker 7: I want you to go and take the plates like
Speaker 7: a feminist.
Speaker 4: I want you to pay three.
Speaker 1: Feminism has left my body.
Speaker 3: And I was so upset just by the whole thing
Speaker 3: because it is dumb, like if I just had a
Speaker 3: reminder on my phone or something. But then I spoke
Speaker 3: to the RTA, I said, this is your fault. I
Speaker 3: was like, you have sent it to an address four
Speaker 3: years ago. I said, I know, I've updated my address
Speaker 3: and they couldn't figure it out for a while too.
Speaker 3: They're like, yes, it does appear you have and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: I understand what's happened. And I was like what They're like,
Speaker 3: there was just another link attached to another account that
Speaker 3: hasn't been updated, and I said, well, why is an
Speaker 3: update Automatically They're like, it's a separate form that no.
Speaker 7: One told me about.
Speaker 3: I was like, of course you have it. Of course
Speaker 3: I have said perform. I was like, don't even worry.
Speaker 3: I'll be there to surrender Tory.
Speaker 7: So I have to turn myself in today.
Speaker 1: Even I want to surrender after that story.
Speaker 3: Okay, at the end of the day, yes, I have
Speaker 3: equal blame. I could have known that that was the
Speaker 3: time of year. But also I'm the kind of person
Speaker 3: and from who I've spoken to, there's someone else in
Speaker 3: this room currently driving unregistered. I'm not say who it is.
Speaker 1: It's not me.
Speaker 2: I know that everyone's going to instantly assume that it's Also,
Speaker 2: she's not on camera. It's a wonderful video editor Vanessa,
Speaker 2: who's hiding in the corner.
Speaker 3: But if I don't get something like that for a
Speaker 3: one off thing that says I wait for the letter,
Speaker 3: you open it, you sit down at the table, you
Speaker 3: pay it on the spot.
Speaker 7: That's how I operate. So we're equal blame.
Speaker 5: I have a conspiracy theory to put to both of you.
Speaker 5: Do you remember when we were younger, there were stickers
Speaker 5: that you would put on your bottom left hand side
Speaker 5: of the window, right, you're so tractic, and it had
Speaker 5: the date that it was new. When they were like,
Speaker 5: we don't need Regiro stickers anymore, I was like, you
Speaker 5: guys are going to be sneaky little devils and you're
Speaker 5: not going to remind people, and they're going to forget
Speaker 5: because they're not looking at it every other day when
Speaker 5: they're driving their car. And if they wanted to get
Speaker 5: in contact with you, they would. If they needed to
Speaker 5: find you, Brittany, if you had actually done some type
Speaker 5: of criminal activity, they would be able to find you
Speaker 5: in a split second.
Speaker 7: You are all over the internet. You are the least
Speaker 7: private person.
Speaker 5: They've got your phone number, they've got your email, they've
Speaker 5: got your bikini picks.
Speaker 7: I should have shown him that because like, let's just help.
Speaker 3: Am I still find He's like, yes, I'm okay, we'll just.
Speaker 7: I'll just show you.
Speaker 2: The only thing though, what that is is like, I mean,
Speaker 2: I do remember when they remove the stickers, because as
Speaker 2: we have all established, I'm almost forty, you're in your
Speaker 2: fortieth year. It could have been it could have been
Speaker 2: an option, like why don't the stickers still exist for
Speaker 2: people who are particularly bad at paperwork? Like I am
Speaker 2: particularly bad at paperwork. I am very lucky that in
Speaker 2: my relationship Matt takes control of those things because he
Speaker 2: is better at it. The only reason why my car
Speaker 2: is registered is because Matt always, like without fail, he'll
Speaker 2: send me a text message every year and goes, hey, honey,
Speaker 2: your car's up for registration soon I've paid it, and
Speaker 2: he'll send it through to me.
Speaker 3: Like that's just so, you guys are still paying my
Speaker 3: gas bill and you keep paying my redgros well.
Speaker 2: And the evidence of this is that, as you guys know,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've been listening to the pod long enough,
Speaker 2: I realized, after Britt had been living in her house
Speaker 2: for three years, which is my old house, that I
Speaker 2: was accidentally still paying her gas bill thinking I was
Speaker 2: paying my own that's how bad I am with paperwork
Speaker 2: and me too, and I'm still now paying. Like what
Speaker 2: I just do is instead of canceling it because I
Speaker 2: can't do the paperwork, I was like, I can't handle.
Speaker 7: We've decided you'll keep paying it and I'll just pay you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just email Britt her gas bill now and she
Speaker 2: pays it. And that's the system we have and it
Speaker 2: works well.
Speaker 3: So if Matt can start to email me my regro,
Speaker 3: I'd be very grateful.
Speaker 7: Well, anyway, it is sorted everyone.
Speaker 3: If you do see me on the roads, it is
Speaker 3: because I am back on track and I have a
Speaker 3: new number plate.
Speaker 1: Well it's not sort of yet because you've still got
Speaker 1: a uber home, but you know, we get good.
Speaker 7: With my drill. Pray for me.
Speaker 1: Fuck my life, something that is living completely rent free.
Speaker 2: In my mind at the moment, it may in fact
Speaker 2: even turn into my Roman empire, because I have not
Speaker 2: stopped thinking about it since I saw the short play
Speaker 2: out on Instagram on the weekend was an interview that
Speaker 2: happened between a reporter Alec Baldwin and Ilaria Baldwin. Now
Speaker 2: they are being questioned about their new reality TV show
Speaker 2: that they've put Together, which is called The Baldwins, following
Speaker 2: them and their seven children. Full transparency, I haven't watched it.
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in watching it. I am, however, interested
Speaker 2: in all the drama that seems to follow this family.
Speaker 3: Are you not interested at all, just like the Megan
Speaker 3: Markel just to like tap in and see what one
Speaker 3: episode's about?
Speaker 7: Personally, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think I am and I will.
Speaker 2: The only thing is is for me, I kind of
Speaker 2: hate that the mystery around Alec Baldwin has been lifted.
Speaker 2: I used to really really like him as an actor,
Speaker 2: and I used to love the movies and shows that
Speaker 2: he was in, like Thirty Rock. For me, it was
Speaker 2: such a amazing series. It was something that I just
Speaker 2: could not stop watching when I was in my twenties.
Speaker 2: And to see the version of who I think he
Speaker 2: is in real life versus the characters that he played,
Speaker 2: and I don't know, I just it's kind of like
Speaker 2: made me lose the love for him a little bit.
Speaker 2: And that's that's probably an unfair thing to say, because
Speaker 2: he isn't his characters, but it makes me to want
Speaker 2: to watch him as reality TV star, Like just don't
Speaker 2: have an interest.
Speaker 3: I think that's really interesting, Like that is an interesting
Speaker 3: thing to unpack because we often talk about how we
Speaker 3: like celebrities.
Speaker 7: So much more and we're so much closer to them.
Speaker 3: We have this parasocial relationship now that they aren't so
Speaker 3: mysterious and they do open up and show us who
Speaker 3: they are and their real personality. But on the other
Speaker 3: side of that, sometimes they show us too much and
Speaker 3: we don't like who they are. So I think sometimes
Speaker 3: it can be amazing. There are certain people that we
Speaker 3: froth even more when we're like, Oh, you're just a
Speaker 3: normal person like me. You're really funny. I love your personality.
Speaker 3: But there's other people like Alec Baldwin where it doesn't
Speaker 3: fit the mold. He doesn't fit reality TV, and watching
Speaker 3: him interact on a different level, I understand why it's
Speaker 3: taken away from the way you probably romanticized him a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also he has gone from being a movie
Speaker 2: star to a reality TV star, and I don't know
Speaker 2: for me, there's something about that that sits really uncomfortably. However,
Speaker 2: what I wanted to talk about was this incident that
Speaker 2: happened on the red carpet. I think that sometimes we
Speaker 2: become fascinated with couples and how they interact and who
Speaker 2: they are as people. I particularly am fascinated by Alec
Speaker 2: and Ilaria for the reason that they have seven children.
Speaker 2: I cannot get my head around the idea of having
Speaker 2: seven kids and still managing to be able to maintain
Speaker 2: a happy, fulfilling relationship and a happy, for filling household,
Speaker 2: especially when you have other priorities like work and friendships
Speaker 2: and everything else that you need to juggle.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: Interestingly, she came out and said that he she's had
Speaker 3: to put a stop to it. He would have more kids,
Speaker 3: she said, he would keep going. And she said to him,
Speaker 3: you'll have to go get a younger wife, which.
Speaker 7: Is like, I probably will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to mean, well, he's done that once before. Well, look,
Speaker 2: have a listen to this. This is what everyone's been
Speaker 2: talking about. It is the way in which Ilaria shuts
Speaker 2: down Alec when he tries to speak on the red carpet.
Speaker 1: Have a listen.
Speaker 4: We're going to see how it feels.
Speaker 7: Sad it'd be out there. Yes, yes, you're a winner.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, when i'm talking, you're not talking. No,
Speaker 6: when I'm talking, you're not talking.
Speaker 4: This is why, Yes, we'll have to.
Speaker 1: Like just pat him out of the show.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is a really.
Speaker 6: Raw show and it's very real, and we've took a
Speaker 6: lot of chances.
Speaker 2: So what you don't see is him rolling his eyes. Well,
Speaker 2: it doesn't roll his eyes. He looks defeated, and he
Speaker 2: kind of like looks up. He steps back in a
Speaker 2: moment of like, oh my God, Lord, give me grace,
Speaker 2: and then he steps back and then he moves away
Speaker 2: from the interview.
Speaker 1: He obviously looks upset.
Speaker 3: But what you also don't see is her actions. So
Speaker 3: when she says, when I'm speaking, you're not speaking, her
Speaker 3: hands are like in his face.
Speaker 7: Do you know what I mean? She's like, when I'm speaking,
Speaker 7: you're not speaking.
Speaker 2: We will put the moment on social media so you
Speaker 2: guys can give your opinions dismissive.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of backlash. Now.
Speaker 2: The problem is is people already have their reasons and
Speaker 2: their biases to not like Laria. There was a lot
Speaker 2: of controversy around her not actually being Spanish, her having
Speaker 2: a fake Spanish accent, her forgetting the word cucumber, which
Speaker 2: was iconic.
Speaker 1: At the time but also inic the right word not.
Speaker 2: Really, No controversial, maybe questionable, definitely. But the thing is
Speaker 2: is I think people already seek out reasons to dislike her. However,
Speaker 2: even myself watching this behavior and watching this moment where
Speaker 2: she clearly asserts herself in the conversation, it made me
Speaker 2: feel viscerally uncomfortable, and I had to ask the question,
Speaker 2: why is it because she overstepped in how she communicated
Speaker 2: with her husband in a relationship that we know very
Speaker 2: little about, or is it because this is a clear
Speaker 2: situation where someone is being disrespected in public and we're
Speaker 2: not used to seeing it.
Speaker 3: The reason I find this so interesting is because the
Speaker 3: way she reacted to him and the things he was
Speaker 3: saying made it sound like he was being rude and
Speaker 3: really rude and really dismissive, when in fact, whilst he
Speaker 3: did jump in a little bit, like you can hear
Speaker 3: he does, he is trying to say something. But what
Speaker 3: he's trying to say is just like a few words
Speaker 3: here and there, in complete support about a show that
Speaker 3: he's also involved in and about a question that he
Speaker 3: has also been asked. They're both being their interview together
Speaker 3: about to show that they both starr in together. If
Speaker 3: there's going to be another season and all he's doing
Speaker 3: is like he's behind her a little bit and he's
Speaker 3: like supporting her. He's like, yeah, you'd be great, You've
Speaker 3: got this. Like there was no reason I think for
Speaker 3: her to be so rude and dismissive. She very easily
Speaker 3: could have been like thanks, babe, and it could have
Speaker 3: been done. I think it's the public statement of dismissing him.
Speaker 3: And in some way it is embarrassing to air your
Speaker 3: public laundry like that, like your dirty laundry publicly, I
Speaker 3: should say. And that's what we're not used to seeing.
Speaker 3: So I have no doubt that these things go on
Speaker 3: behind closed doors with Hollywood and celebrities all the time,
Speaker 3: but we don't often see it so blatantly. She wasn't
Speaker 3: embarrassed by it. She didn't look like she did anything wrong,
Speaker 3: Otherwise she wouldn't have done it. She was just like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm talking, you're not talking, don't interrupt me. I found
Speaker 3: it very unnecessary, and I think, as you just sort
Speaker 3: of mentioned before, it really does double down on the
Speaker 3: public's confirmation bias of why we hate her. Like the
Speaker 3: reason that people are more against her than for her
Speaker 3: in this city situation is because they already don't like
Speaker 3: her from her past discrepancies, which is pretending she's Spanish.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if people didn't have already such a strong dislike
Speaker 2: for her, this wouldn't have gone as viral.
Speaker 10: People.
Speaker 2: It may not be even I don't know, it may
Speaker 2: not have even necessarily touched the sides in the same
Speaker 2: way it was rude, But would it have made as
Speaker 2: big news. I think people love to latch on things
Speaker 2: that confirm the reasons why we don't like something or
Speaker 2: like someone. My only other question to this is, yes,
Speaker 2: maybe it's a moment of showcasing that they don't have
Speaker 2: the perfect relationship, but a lot of people don't have
Speaker 2: the perfect relationship. In fact, I would say most people
Speaker 2: don't have the perfect relationship, and there are moments of
Speaker 2: frustration that happened towards your partner. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's an indication necessarily of her just being a horrible,
Speaker 2: awful person, or maybe maybe let's play devil's advocate in
Speaker 2: this situation, maybe it is a case that every time
Speaker 2: she's speaking, she is being interrupted and she's fed up
Speaker 2: of it. I understand that there is a right way
Speaker 2: and a wrong way to go about it. I understand
Speaker 2: that like doing it publicly verse speaking in private is
Speaker 2: very rude and it comes across dismissive. But there's so
Speaker 2: many more layers that you don't see when you look
Speaker 2: at what is just a five or ten seconds clip
Speaker 2: of someone. Now I'm saying this to play Devil's Advocate.
Speaker 2: Of course, that's not how I felt when I watched it.
Speaker 2: I absolutely felt all the things that we're talking about.
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, if I ever spoke to Matt
Speaker 2: like that in a public setting, Wow, we would be
Speaker 2: having a fight in the taxi on the way home.
Speaker 7: I don't even think I would do that in front
Speaker 7: of a friend. I like, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I think that that is such a private conversation and
Speaker 3: we have to switch.
Speaker 7: The narrative here a little bit.
Speaker 3: If that role was reversed and he was talking and
Speaker 3: she was like, babe, you're going to be great, and
Speaker 3: he turned around and went, don't speak while I'm speaking,
Speaker 3: we would be in uproar.
Speaker 2: But I don't that's what I mean. I don't think
Speaker 2: that that stereotype is considerably different. I really don't. What
Speaker 2: I mean by that is people are angry about it.
Speaker 2: People would think that she has emasculated him. Is a
Speaker 2: lot of the comments saying that he looks as though
Speaker 2: he's like downtrodden and weak, like he's being taken advantage
Speaker 2: of in this relationship. I hate this narrative that because
Speaker 2: she is a strong and obviously very outspoken woman, that
Speaker 2: he must be hard done by as a man in
Speaker 2: that relationship.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's doing just fine. I think he's fine.
Speaker 2: He's also like whether he's miserable or he's happy, Like,
Speaker 2: he has made the decisions to be and the relationship
Speaker 2: is in. He's made the decisions to have the amount
Speaker 2: of children that he's had. These are mutual decisions.
Speaker 7: He also sorry for him.
Speaker 2: He also made the decision to be part of this
Speaker 2: reality TV show. You know, this stuff doesn't just happen
Speaker 2: to him because she's the mastermind making everything happen around him.
Speaker 2: I think that there is absolute mutuality that's happening here.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just found this whole moment in time fascinating, and
Speaker 2: I think that it really villainizes her and makes her
Speaker 2: kind of plays into the stereotype that she's like just
Speaker 2: this like nasty woman who's taking over his life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want anyone to feel sorry for him
Speaker 3: in that sense, because he can make his own decisions.
Speaker 3: He's the one that came into the relationship with money
Speaker 3: control power, he was older, he had a successful career.
Speaker 3: He doesn't have to be there if he doesn't want to.
Speaker 3: I also hate the fact that just because the woman
Speaker 3: takes controling, it is assertive that people like get out
Speaker 3: of their man, like you deserve better. That's a load
Speaker 3: of bullshit, Like that is an absolute load of bullshit.
Speaker 3: But anything I did feel about this situation was only
Speaker 3: intensified and they sort of doubled down a little bit.
Speaker 7: It wasn't the.
Speaker 3: Intended reaction, but they did give a united response to
Speaker 3: this now viral interview on the Red Carpet, this viral moment.
Speaker 3: So they are laying in bed together and they are
Speaker 3: lip syncing to the actual fight to the audio, and
Speaker 3: then they're trying to have this like we're still happy,
Speaker 3: we're together, were united. They're kissing, the cuddling, but have
Speaker 3: a listen, Oh my.
Speaker 6: God, when i'm talking, you're not talking. No, when I'm talking,
Speaker 6: you're not talking. This is why, yes, we'll have to
Speaker 6: like just cut him out of the show. And that
Speaker 6: is called what's the word of the day, interrupting, interrupting,
Speaker 6: which could be a positive, it could be a negative,
Speaker 6: or it could be a correct assumption. Yes, I think
Speaker 6: that's what I'm children trying to get into the room.
Speaker 1: But you know, the whole point is because her children
Speaker 1: about to come in.
Speaker 6: The whole point is that will we interrupt each other
Speaker 6: all the time? Okay, I'm coming. Okay, So now that
Speaker 6: we cleared all of that up, I cleaned it up,
Speaker 6: give me a kiss just so I know that I'm.
Speaker 7: No then making out, just so you know.
Speaker 3: She's trying to become more likable again and more relatable
Speaker 3: for me. It pushed me the other way. I was like,
Speaker 3: I know, I hate this whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it had the desired response. I
Speaker 2: think what she was trying to do was to lean
Speaker 2: into this idea of I mean, man interrupting is quite
Speaker 2: clearly when a man interrupts a woman, whether that is
Speaker 2: a negative thing, and what she said is a negative
Speaker 2: or a positive. He was positively trying to say she
Speaker 2: was doing a good job, but he was interrupting her
Speaker 2: when she was trying to speak. So what they're trying
Speaker 2: to establish there is being like, well, she was putting
Speaker 2: down clear boundaries around not wanting to be interrupted and
Speaker 2: wanting to have her own voice and speak for herself.
Speaker 1: Correct our dysfunction, I.
Speaker 2: Love that too, which like, yes, everything needs a term,
Speaker 2: and this is fantastic, correct our dysfunction being being.
Speaker 7: A correct ole dysfunction but words.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess the same thing is like when
Speaker 2: a man is man'splaining a situation that doesn't need to
Speaker 2: be explained, but they feel as though the need that
Speaker 2: they should be adding to the conversation. My only thing
Speaker 2: that I come back and I know that I keep
Speaker 2: playing Devil's advocate around this fight and around this small
Speaker 2: bit of audio, because I did find it fascinating seeing
Speaker 2: the negative sides to someone's relationship. Is that I can
Speaker 2: only assume for a very long time, she probably played
Speaker 2: second fiddle to his success. I'm sure that every time
Speaker 2: they're on a red carpet, every time they go anywhere.
Speaker 2: I mean, he starting over eighty movies or eighty TV series,
Speaker 2: like he is a true movie star. You would be
Speaker 2: a little bit in the shadows of that success for
Speaker 2: a really long time. And I guess like this is
Speaker 2: something that she probably feels really proud of or really
Speaker 2: excited about. Maybe the reality TV show is something that
Speaker 2: was her idea, and I guess as much as everyone's
Speaker 2: saying like, oh, but it's also he's in it and
Speaker 2: it's his thing as well. I feel as though it
Speaker 2: could be a situation where maybe she's like, I want
Speaker 2: to talk about this, and then she's you know, they're
Speaker 2: being interrupted. Feels so much more purposeful when it's like,
Speaker 2: but I've always let you have your moment to shine.
Speaker 1: I want to have my moment.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I get the impression it was the
Speaker 3: icing on the cake. I think there's been a lot
Speaker 3: of other things going on behind closed doors. You know,
Speaker 3: when you've been like bickering with a partner for a
Speaker 3: while and then they do one little thing and you'll
Speaker 3: lose it.
Speaker 7: I reckon that was his icing on the cake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's something very different about a public
Speaker 2: berating versus a conversation behind closed doors.
Speaker 7: On something as well, Like you know that this is
Speaker 7: going to go viral.
Speaker 3: You are on camera on a red carpet having an
Speaker 3: argument as a couple.
Speaker 7: You know it's and maybe that's what they want. Maybe
Speaker 7: this is all part of just drumming up some more publicity.
Speaker 2: I don't know now, I know we've been talking a
Speaker 2: lot about Alec Baldwin. But hear me out with the
Speaker 2: link here Tina Fay. So, Tina Fey was the coast
Speaker 2: of Alec on Thirty Rocks. She's also been a coaster
Speaker 2: on Saturday Night Live. They have done much work together.
Speaker 7: This is how we're finding our segue to the next conversation.
Speaker 1: Well because I found this very interesting.
Speaker 2: Also, So, Tina Fey was recently on Amy Poehler's podcast
Speaker 2: The Good Hang. What Tina shared is that she has
Speaker 2: a real issue when rich celebrities start additional businesses that
Speaker 2: are outside their main sphere of focus. Say when like
Speaker 2: a George Clooney starts it to kill a brand, or
Speaker 2: a Rihanna starts fenty. When really, really stupidly rich and
Speaker 2: successful people, namely celebrities that already have so much influence
Speaker 2: over industries and over people, create new businesses and get
Speaker 2: richer off the back of it.
Speaker 11: I have a problem with rich people having a side hustle.
Speaker 11: Yeah you mean like a podcast. No, this as you're
Speaker 11: doing work. I'm saying, if you if you sold, like,
Speaker 11: where would my line be?
Speaker 7: For you, where would I draw the line.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know what you mean, like if I had
Speaker 6: a if I had a rose, if you yeah, you.
Speaker 11: Know, if you already have like two hundred million dollars
Speaker 11: and you're.
Speaker 7: Like, also, oh, I need you to but.
Speaker 11: Tina, that is this is where you have to learn
Speaker 11: from gen Z.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, and we have to.
Speaker 11: They don't care, they don't, they don't.
Speaker 7: They don't judge it.
Speaker 6: It well, get you should start because this is the
Speaker 6: thing that you have to have a million, you have
Speaker 6: to have glasses.
Speaker 11: Yeah, well I have my line of children's medications.
Speaker 3: I personally hate it. I have said, and I have
Speaker 3: sent messages to you guys over the last year or two.
Speaker 3: When people in the public eye, not people like in
Speaker 3: Australian public eye, I'm talking like Hollywood celebrities, when they
Speaker 3: come out with a new business that's completely unrelated to
Speaker 3: anything else, it makes me mad. I've sent it to you guys,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, why are they doing that? And the
Speaker 3: reason I say this is, of course, anyone can do
Speaker 3: whatever they want. Of course, you can have an interest
Speaker 3: in anything. You can go into multiple lanes. It's not
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 7: But when people that are.
Speaker 3: Worth literally hundreds of millions of dollars and not exaggerating
Speaker 3: some of them. Billions of dollars are starting businesses in
Speaker 3: every single industry. You can imagine alcohol, a haircare, some clothing, makeup, whatever, skincare.
Speaker 3: Every second person has a skincare brand. That makes me
Speaker 3: upset because there are so many little people everyday, people
Speaker 3: that are grinding in their businesses, their passion approaches, they're
Speaker 3: trying to make ends meet, and these people who literally
Speaker 3: do not need another dollar in the world, they could
Speaker 3: retire every person in their family, start taking that away
Speaker 3: and it impacts.
Speaker 7: The little businesses. It's when it makes me really angry.
Speaker 3: And I'm talking about the level of people, not just
Speaker 3: wealthy people, because wealth is subjective now and it takes
Speaker 3: a lot more to live and retire now than it
Speaker 3: would have ten and twenty years ago. But I'm talking
Speaker 3: about the filthy rich people that don't have a care
Speaker 3: in the world and could literally retire tomorrow. They're the
Speaker 3: people that ap pisces me of.
Speaker 2: I have duplicious feelings about this because on one hand, yes,
Speaker 2: I agree with what you're saying, like the rich get richer,
Speaker 2: and that seems to be a very unfair fact of
Speaker 2: the world. However, we have forever had celebrity endorsed products,
Speaker 2: campaigns brands. It's how most brands over time have been
Speaker 2: able to advertise whatever it is, the new products that
Speaker 2: they have coming out. And so I guess for me,
Speaker 2: I'm like, is there a huge difference between a celebrity
Speaker 2: endorsed brand and you know, paying someone to be the
Speaker 2: face of a new beautiful perfume or to be the
Speaker 2: face of a new genes that's been launched, you know,
Speaker 2: but Levi Jeans or whatever, versus a celebrity who is
Speaker 2: getting a ongoing commission because they've partnered with a manufacturing
Speaker 2: company and they've created their own brand. I actually don't
Speaker 2: know if I see them that differently. And I kind
Speaker 2: of found it funny that this came from Tina Fay,
Speaker 2: because Tina Fey has recently been the face of a
Speaker 2: credit card company doing ads online And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: hold on, but then aren't you stepping outside your box
Speaker 2: of acting to do ads to create more wealth? When
Speaker 2: I would dare say that Tina Fey is doing pretty fine.
Speaker 2: I mean, she did say in this interview that she
Speaker 2: just wants to make enough money to live. I would
Speaker 2: question if Tina Fey doesn't have enough money to just
Speaker 2: get by and live, like, something's going wrong in the
Speaker 2: American acting world.
Speaker 7: I mean, yes, it is.
Speaker 3: Something is gone going drastically wrong with American acting. Well,
Speaker 3: a lot of Hollywood don't earn what you think they earn.
Speaker 3: And we remember Rebel Wilson telling us that she earned
Speaker 3: three thousand dollars for Bridesmaids, three thousand dollars and she
Speaker 3: had to register with the Acting Association with that money.
Speaker 7: She made nothing.
Speaker 3: So there is definitely the like zero point five percent
Speaker 3: of Hollywood that earned that really good cash. But I
Speaker 3: see it very differently, Laura to that. And let me
Speaker 3: tell you why. If you lend your face to a
Speaker 3: brand and you get paid like these actors do, if
Speaker 3: you're gonna be the face of Levi's, you might get
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna pull a number out right, one hundred
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, five hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: Dollars are getting millions.
Speaker 3: Depends on your level, But I'm just picking a number
Speaker 3: for an example. Even if you got paid a million dollars,
Speaker 3: I think Kylie Jenner gets a million dollars a post.
Speaker 3: Apparently Alec Earl is in the news at the moment.
Speaker 1: For Jim Shark.
Speaker 5: They've canceled her contract with them and she's suing them
Speaker 5: saying that they owe her millions. So, yeah, people are
Speaker 5: making million dollar deals.
Speaker 7: This is the difference.
Speaker 3: You have endorsed a product that you love, You've given
Speaker 3: your face to them. You are making a million dollar
Speaker 3: but you have made that business. For example, Jim Shark.
Speaker 3: Jim Shark started from a five hundred dollar loan in
Speaker 3: his mum's house, literally in his bedroom. He is a
Speaker 3: self made billionaire.
Speaker 7: So now this.
Speaker 3: Person is getting paid a million dollars, but they have
Speaker 3: made a small what was once a small business money.
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you an example of when somebody
Speaker 3: that's already filthy rich makes more money than you could
Speaker 3: possibly need and then continues to start businesses and take
Speaker 3: from other people. And I'm going to use Blake Lively
Speaker 3: and Ryan Reynolds as an example. Ryan Reynolds was already
Speaker 3: in the top five highest paid actors in the world.
Speaker 3: Then he started his alcohol brand. His alcohol brand sold
Speaker 3: for eight hundred and forty five million dollars. So you're
Speaker 3: already the richest person in Hollywood. You start a brand,
Speaker 3: you make nearly a billion dollars. Then after that, you
Speaker 3: guys then go and start another company for non alcoholic beverages.
Speaker 3: So you're going to take Now, you're going to take
Speaker 3: business from all the little people out there that are
Speaker 3: literally try yeah. And it's those kinds of things things
Speaker 3: that really start to piss me off because I'm like,
Speaker 3: you are just being greedy. You've already touched in alcohol
Speaker 3: when you don't need another dollar. You've sold that. Now
Speaker 3: you're going to go into another angle. They've got so
Speaker 3: many other businesses on the side, which I get. I
Speaker 3: think it's amazing if it's something that you are really
Speaker 3: passionate about Ryan Reynolds buying Rexam Football Club, amazing, you
Speaker 3: have an interest in it, you're so passionate about it.
Speaker 3: We love to see that he's done so much good
Speaker 3: for them. But the constantly putting your fingers in every
Speaker 3: other pie, taking from other small businesses for zero reason
Speaker 3: is what really starts to grind me.
Speaker 5: There are a lot of celebrities that own alcohol brands
Speaker 5: that don't drink, yeah, Like they're non drinkers.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, that doesn't make sense. It's a
Speaker 1: bit strange. Isn't it but that one.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I would love to know examples of
Speaker 2: that because, like I would say, so, I guess the
Speaker 2: reason why I'm kind of and don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: I do absolutely think that there's limitations to it. But
Speaker 2: I also do see some companies that have become behemoth
Speaker 2: companies because the consumers love the products that are being created,
Speaker 2: not just because it has been backed by a celebrity,
Speaker 2: but because the products filled the gap and were fantastic.
Speaker 2: For example, Skims, it's a billion dollar business. Kim Kardashian
Speaker 2: started it. Obviously they were already so ridiculously successful. But
Speaker 2: I would say that the outward perception of Skims is
Speaker 2: that they provide products that have been really well received
Speaker 2: by the market and something that people have really desired,
Speaker 2: which is like the seamless shape, where the other thing
Speaker 2: as well. Fenti Beauty, which is by Rihanna, is also
Speaker 2: a billion dollar business.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: She makes more money through her makeup label than what
Speaker 2: she ever did through music. The reason why it became
Speaker 2: so popular is because she wanted to create makeup and
Speaker 2: foundations that suited so many different skin shades, because she
Speaker 2: found that for herself, they just weren't the right foundations
Speaker 2: for her color skin or for people who had darker skin.
Speaker 2: So I think in these instances, I'm like, the products
Speaker 2: are so good. There was a gap in the market,
Speaker 2: or maybe there wasn't a gap, but at least they
Speaker 2: were able to make it so accessible through their celebrity ism.
Speaker 2: And then I think, Okay, Well, if it is, for example,
Speaker 2: that Rihanna is over music or she doesn't want to
Speaker 2: do acting, is it not okay for her to switch
Speaker 2: lanes and become a businesswoman or an entrepreneur? Like when
Speaker 2: is it okay for us to say, well, that person
Speaker 2: can have an extra business, that person can't.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you aligne.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you when Kylie Jenner billionaire. Everything you've done amazing.
Speaker 3: You've got your skincare range, you're passionate about that. That's incredible.
Speaker 7: Don't care.
Speaker 3: You found your niche and you found your billion dollars.
Speaker 3: You then start a clothing company. There's a little ossy
Speaker 3: designer brand. I shouldn't say that little. It's called Johansson Official.
Speaker 3: That's the Instagram but the label's called just Johanson. One
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five thousand followers. I've bought from her before.
Speaker 3: She does quite small collections, but she has very signature collections,
Speaker 3: Like she's got this one dress that's like lace and
Speaker 3: a twist and it's very much her thing, and Kylie
Speaker 3: Jenna has been accused of ripping off that entire collection
Speaker 3: with her own label KI. Now, Kylie was already a billionaire.
Speaker 3: You've already got your niche and your passion. If you
Speaker 3: really felt the need to go and make another billion
Speaker 3: dollars from a clothing company, at least be original. But
Speaker 3: this is where my issue comes in that you are
Speaker 3: taking from these small people that are just grinding that.
Speaker 1: As I think, like completely unethical.
Speaker 7: It happens all the time.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, if it fills a gap, if the products
Speaker 2: are great, and if it's not impeding on another business
Speaker 2: in terms of taking their ip or their designs, then
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, great, that's entrepreneurship, and like I kind
Speaker 2: of love that in person. But on the flip side
Speaker 2: to it, if it's not entrepreneurship and you're just doing
Speaker 2: it because it's a money making scheme and you're simply
Speaker 2: creating another business and ripping off someone's designs, I feel
Speaker 2: like that's a deeply different conversation.
Speaker 7: Again, I disagree.
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with somebody starting a business
Speaker 3: for money that they're not passionate about. I think there's
Speaker 3: loads of people that see a niche industry and they're like, hey,
Speaker 3: I see a gap. There might not be what I
Speaker 3: dreamt of doing when I'm growing up, but I'm going
Speaker 3: to capitalize on that market. I think that's intelligent. I
Speaker 3: think it's brilliant. You don't have to have the passion
Speaker 3: in my eyes, to want to make the money. But
Speaker 3: my problem is just when people are doing it that
Speaker 3: don't need the money anymore, and that's when it takes
Speaker 3: away from it, when you're putting your fingers in multiple pies.
Speaker 3: But like, you're not talking about local Australian people that
Speaker 3: you know. There's loads of people that have great jobs
Speaker 3: in this industry in Australia in media and that are
Speaker 3: starting alcohol and perfume and clothing and I don't have
Speaker 3: any issues with that. I think that is brilliant. I'm
Speaker 3: talking about the megadog celebrities. This is who my issue
Speaker 3: lies with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, how many hundreds of millions do you
Speaker 2: need to have in order to be satisfied with the
Speaker 2: income that you've already got. I guess, like I mean,
Speaker 2: it's very interesting. I would say that there are very
Speaker 2: few mega celebrities who do not have additional businesses anymore.
Speaker 2: It kind of is part and parcel with having this
Speaker 2: incredible following and having like all of the eyes on
Speaker 2: you as a celebrity. It's almost as though people realize,
Speaker 2: instead of endorsing other people's brands, I'm going to put
Speaker 2: my influence behind my own brand, behind my own thing,
Speaker 2: because you know, music has an expiration date. Being a
Speaker 2: actor has an expiration date. Yes, you may get royalties,
Speaker 2: but you're never going to be the level of income
Speaker 2: and fame that you once were. And so a lot
Speaker 2: of these businesses, simply because of the size of the
Speaker 2: notoriety of the celebrity, the businesses themselves become ten times
Speaker 2: more successful than what they ever were in being or
Speaker 2: whatever it was that it was their original chosen career.
Speaker 2: Some other examples of this is Selena Gomez with Rare Beauty,
Speaker 2: Scarlett Johansson the Outset, Lady Gaga with House Labs, and
Speaker 2: then even Ariana. She's monetized and capitalized on the Wicked
Speaker 2: brand and she's got arim Beauty and God is a Woman,
Speaker 2: and she's got so many wicked style products, which all
Speaker 2: kind of you know, obviously she'd have to pay some
Speaker 2: royalties to have the branding, but it all goes back
Speaker 2: into Ariana's brand that she has. I think it's so
Speaker 2: rare for celebrities to not have businesses, and that's why
Speaker 2: the take of Tina Fey is something that's very interesting.
Speaker 2: And that's because it's almost as though she is the outlier.
Speaker 2: She's one of the few celebrities that have huge profiles
Speaker 2: that don't have these extra businesses that don't sit within
Speaker 2: like a creative field, and she's kind of calling it
Speaker 2: out for the little people. And I think that's why
Speaker 2: so many people have listened to this and really resonated
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 5: The only last thing that I want to say is
Speaker 5: that I wonder how much it has to do with
Speaker 5: finances and how much it has to do with ego
Speaker 5: and relevance.
Speaker 4: Like traditionally we used to say, particularly.
Speaker 1: For you know, women in media, like in Hollywood.
Speaker 5: Spaces, that they kind of fade off into obscurity, Whereas
Speaker 5: I guess if they have a business that is thriving
Speaker 5: and you know, we talk about this with sports people.
Speaker 4: When they come to the end of their careers and
Speaker 4: they're about to retire, a lot.
Speaker 5: Of them start businesses so that they have something that
Speaker 5: they can continue doing after their playing career is over.
Speaker 5: And maybe this is kind of the Hollywood. I don't know,
Speaker 5: Like I kind of sit in the middle of these
Speaker 5: two things. I'm not really sure how I feel about it.
Speaker 5: I think I feel like it's very late stage capitalism
Speaker 5: on steroids.
Speaker 1: But what are their options?
Speaker 5: Are their options to just continue doing this creative work
Speaker 5: where retire, like but like in a society that is like,
Speaker 5: you know, we are so quick to tell women that
Speaker 5: they're not relevant anymore and like move aside, you're not
Speaker 5: doing anything fresh.
Speaker 4: Maybe this is the kind of the antidote to that.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I know, I agree. I think there's a huge part
Speaker 7: of it that it is about relevance as well, and also.
Speaker 1: And reinventing yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not even inventing yourself, but also particularly for women,
Speaker 3: I will say women women do always feel like they
Speaker 3: have to prove themselves, like, look, I am a successful
Speaker 3: business woman as well. I can do this, I can
Speaker 3: grind and I know I've gone hard down one avenue.
Speaker 3: But I'm also hyper aware that we truly don't understand
Speaker 3: how much money some people make. And I don't mean positively,
Speaker 3: I mean on the lower end. I think a lot
Speaker 3: of us think there's a lot of celebrities that make
Speaker 3: a lot of money that don't. And I say that
Speaker 3: because we've had Lily Allen say, you know, she makes
Speaker 3: more money on only fans, and she does on some
Speaker 3: of her music or all of her music. I know
Speaker 3: another singer again that I'm not going to name, that
Speaker 3: had huge songs and he's told me personally he has
Speaker 3: not made anywhere near enough money from it. He definitely
Speaker 3: cannot live off it. He still sometimes lives month to month.
Speaker 3: But from the outset, we would be looking at that
Speaker 3: thinking that those people were loaded. But we don't quite
Speaker 3: understand the music industry or the entertainment industry to the
Speaker 3: level we do. So I do want to say that
Speaker 3: I think there are a lot of people we think
Speaker 3: have made more money that would be starting businesses because
Speaker 3: they don't actually have their conceit income coming in.
Speaker 7: So benefit of the doubt for those people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess, like the only thing that I'd
Speaker 2: like to wrap this with is that I don't think
Speaker 2: that all celebrity businesses are built the same. I think
Speaker 2: that there are absolutely some celebrity businesses where it is
Speaker 2: a money grab. They clearly don't have investment in the product,
Speaker 2: the time, the entrepreneurship, or any of the actual workings
Speaker 2: that it requires to run a business. They've just lept
Speaker 2: their name on something and they are reaping the rewards
Speaker 2: while everyone else is doing the work, and they're also
Speaker 2: pushing out the little guys and doing so. But there
Speaker 2: are also celebrity businesses where the interest of that celebrity
Speaker 2: has pivoted and they are deeply entrenched in their business.
Speaker 2: They care about it greatly, and it is their true
Speaker 2: passion that they have moved into. And I don't think
Speaker 2: that we should discredit those celebrities simply because they already
Speaker 2: had a huge following. If they're creating products or they're
Speaker 2: creating businesses that are wan a passion and also creating
Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of jobs for individuals wherever it is
Speaker 2: that their business is placed, and also creating products that
Speaker 2: people I do want to purchase, not just from a
Speaker 2: consumerism perspective, but because it fills a gap or a
Speaker 2: need that people actually require. All right, guys, well it
Speaker 2: is time for our suck and our sweet over the week,
Speaker 2: our highlight in our low light of each and every week.
Speaker 1: Brittany, I already know your suck. I'm not even to
Speaker 1: have an unregistered car and.
Speaker 3: A three and a half thousand dollars bill and I
Speaker 3: need to go home and try and take my plates off.
Speaker 7: Don't even know how I'm going to do that.
Speaker 1: Did you get Kish's drill? Did that happens?
Speaker 7: She brought it for me today.
Speaker 1: Yet I hope that should be my vibe this week.
Speaker 7: You find it before? Have I yeap you one hundred
Speaker 7: percent of.
Speaker 2: Five electric drills? They're worth the seventy dollars you need
Speaker 2: to have one. Every single person needs to have one.
Speaker 3: And my suite is just the fact that Delilary is
Speaker 3: back one hundred percent on track and she's happy and
Speaker 3: healthy and still really cuddly. So I had a really
Speaker 3: easy suck and sweet. The suck was a fucking suck
Speaker 3: of the year. So yeah, but that was my sweet?
Speaker 1: What about you? My suck for the week is that?
Speaker 2: I mean, I know I already told you about dummy
Speaker 2: Fairy was very emotional. My suck is that Matt left
Speaker 2: at the same time that this happens, so like all
Speaker 2: of the hard parenting stuff this year, he's just kind
Speaker 2: of managed to boycott. Like also being away for five
Speaker 2: weeks overseas super convenient good for him. I mean, does
Speaker 2: he do these kids even have a dad who knows
Speaker 2: who lady does my registration. So that's my stuck, is
Speaker 2: like having to do the heavy load of the night
Speaker 2: times without him. He comes home tomorrow and my suite
Speaker 2: for the week is, actually I have a couple of sweets.
Speaker 7: But just one. We're running out of time. Just malboys
Speaker 7: outside waiting to coming.
Speaker 2: What she is hijazz? So my suite is that we
Speaker 2: went away on the weekend to the Gold Coast. But
Speaker 2: my actual suite is that we've opened our Tony May
Speaker 2: shop in Bondi, and I am like, I am so excited.
Speaker 2: We have been on the wait list for this store
Speaker 2: for seven years. I'll tell you guys more about it
Speaker 2: next week after we have our big opening and everything
Speaker 2: that's happening on Thursday.
Speaker 3: But I accidentally ruined on social media by posting early,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know I was not supposed to post it.
Speaker 2: It's exactly what happened, but it feels like it feels
Speaker 2: like a huge achievement to have this second store, and
Speaker 2: it's really sad about it.
Speaker 3: That's my I am too, so much more convenient for
Speaker 3: me to just pop on down now and still some jewely.
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