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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Jonesy and Demanda podcast.

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Speaker 2: You may have been following this story, a very dramatic story.

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Speaker 2: Savannah Guthrie, co host of one of America's biggest morning programs. Today,

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Speaker 2: She's been making headlines for devastating reasons this week, the

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Speaker 2: bizarre disappearance of her eighty four year old mother, who's

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Speaker 2: reported missing from her home in Arizona after she failed

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Speaker 2: to turn up for church. These circumstances are quite terrifying.

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Speaker 2: For more, we're joined by US broadcaster Cooper Lawrence's joining

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Speaker 2: US Life from New York. Cooper, Hello, Hi, I.

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Speaker 1: Usually like to talk to you about fun celebrities. This

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Speaker 1: is such a really intense, very serious story, and it

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Speaker 1: got very serious very quickly. So the timeline is what's

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Speaker 1: really interesting about this story. So she was taken to

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Speaker 1: dinner by her daughter, dropped off Saturday night around nine pm,

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Speaker 1: and then at two o'clock in the morning, her pacemaker

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Speaker 1: stopped sinking with her Apple watch, so that was the

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Speaker 1: first alarm that something was wrong. And then Sunday mornings,

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Speaker 1: she didn't show up for church, which she always went to.

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Speaker 1: It was very important, her faith was very important to her,

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Speaker 1: so that's what raised the alarm. So when they broke

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Speaker 1: into the house. When the cops finally broke into the

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Speaker 1: house and realized that she was gone, they found her

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Speaker 1: cell phone, her wallet, her car was there, her keys

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Speaker 1: were there, So that's where they got the idea that

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Speaker 1: she was taken rather than left on her own. And

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Speaker 1: because she left her phone but had her Apple Watch on,

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Speaker 1: that's why her pacemaker stopped sinking. So now they have

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Speaker 1: a real timeline. They know at two am is when

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Speaker 1: she left that house, and that's a very important time.

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Speaker 1: There is also the La Times is reporting they that

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Speaker 1: there was a break in, that there was a forced entry,

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Speaker 1: and they have found blood in the house.

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Speaker 2: So there's no implication that she's not of sound mind

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Speaker 2: and wandered off. That's not going to be the storyline here.

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Speaker 1: No. In fact, it's very interesting because the sheriff in

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Speaker 1: her county who spoke on this initially, he said, I

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Speaker 1: want to be clear, she did not wander off. She

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Speaker 1: is sharp as attack and that she the fact that

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Speaker 1: she left her phone and wallet and all that was

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Speaker 1: also very alarming for them. So they're saying, though she

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Speaker 1: is actually missing, and there they brought in the FBI.

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Speaker 1: They brought in a homicide team, they brought in dogs,

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Speaker 1: they tested DNA. I mean they're really treating this like

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Speaker 1: a real crime scene investigation, is it? What's her place like?

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Speaker 1: Is you got like a well? She hasn't fallen down

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Speaker 1: a will or anything that can happen. They got into

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Speaker 1: the backyard and fall into a well. Lessie, No, no,

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Speaker 1: Lessie never fell into the will? Was Timmy the film

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Speaker 1: last He got them out of the well? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: True, true, But I'm not joking. That could that could

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Speaker 2: be a thing that she could have fallen into.

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Speaker 1: If she's got a big property, she could have fallen

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Speaker 1: into something. And that's why they didn't call the cops

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Speaker 1: until Sunday afternoon, because the family showed up. She has

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Speaker 1: a very big property and I don't think it's a well.

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Speaker 1: There is a pool, so they checked all of that.

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Speaker 1: The problem is where she lives is very remote and

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Speaker 1: the nearest neighbor is so far away that if she

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Speaker 1: was screaming, nobody would have ever heard her.

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Speaker 2: To put her in a context for Australians, she's a

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Speaker 2: much loved megastar, isn't she.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she's the television version of you. Basically you know

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Speaker 1: somebody that everybody knows and loves. They know about your life,

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Speaker 1: they know and you know a lot of the stories

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Speaker 1: that she does on the Today Show are about her family.

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Speaker 1: So she she just did a story recently about her

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Speaker 1: relationship with her mom and and who her mom is

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Speaker 1: in her life and how her dad died when she

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Speaker 1: was young, and the mom was like the mom and

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Speaker 1: the dad and so we really we really got to

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Speaker 1: know her the same way people get to know you.

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Speaker 1: So and the Today Show is, you know, one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest television shows that we have. So she's she's big, big.

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Speaker 2: We would be careful.

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Speaker 1: What if, like someone kidnaps me who's close to you.

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Speaker 2: You know, easy come, easy go, that's what I said.

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Speaker 1: I'd probably hand me back. That'd hand me back pretty.

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Speaker 2: Quickly, too irritated. You wouldn't make it as reach in

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Speaker 2: the town. Well, that is a fascinating story, Cooper.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us, Thank you for having me