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Speaker 1: Jump Mission with Jonesy and Amanda our next guest.

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Speaker 2: Well, she's the inspiring woman and the real life mum

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Speaker 2: behind Nicole Kidman's character in the blockbuster movie lion Lyne

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Speaker 2: was written by his son Saru about his journey to

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Speaker 2: find his birth mum, using Google Earth to travel to

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Speaker 2: a small Indian village. Well, now Sue has written about

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Speaker 2: her own path and it is just as incredible.

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Speaker 1: Hello Sue, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Hello Sue. I had the absolute pleasure of doing a

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Speaker 2: story with the living room with Saru. I was in

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Speaker 2: Tasmania and spent an afternoon with him. What a delightful

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Speaker 2: young man.

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Speaker 1: He is, Well, he certainly is, but he's not so

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Speaker 1: young anymore.

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Speaker 2: How old is he now?

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Speaker 1: His next birthday will be forty Wow? According to our

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Speaker 1: thirty nine to his first mother. So before Gray Area, well.

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Speaker 2: You your journey, your journey to adopt Sarhu and his brother.

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Speaker 2: It was sixteen years in the making. It wasn't very

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Speaker 2: easy at.

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Speaker 1: All, No it was. It certainly was a journey and

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Speaker 1: a half. And I don't know who picked that song

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Speaker 1: just before Runaway Train.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, world, Yes, was that a quite dig actually it

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Speaker 2: was it? But maybe sup for those who aren't. You

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Speaker 2: aren't as familiar with the story as we are. Before

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Speaker 2: we get to your journey to adopt Seru, maybe tell

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Speaker 2: us what his story was before he came to you.

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Speaker 1: Well, just by sheer chance, as a little boy, somewhere

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Speaker 1: between four and five years of age, he got on

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Speaker 1: the wrong train just an hour or so from his

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Speaker 1: village and ended up traveling from the center of India

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Speaker 1: to Calcutta on the other side, so it was thousands

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Speaker 1: of kilometers and there he was lost and on the

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Speaker 1: streets for some time before being rescued and taken to

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Speaker 1: a wonderful institution called Navajavan, which is run by the

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Speaker 1: Indian Society for Sponsorship and Adoption, And that's where we

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Speaker 1: found Saru and adopted him and brought him to Australia

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Speaker 1: to live with us.

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Speaker 2: You make that sound so straightforward, but sixteen years you said,

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Speaker 2: of trying to adopt a child from overseas.

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Speaker 1: The problem was here, not there. You know, it's because

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Speaker 1: of the bureaucratic system that we function or really don't

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Speaker 1: function with. It just was like that there were issues

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Speaker 1: there that we couldn't comply with, and the program was

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Speaker 1: predominantly open for infertile couples. We couldn't prove that. We

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Speaker 1: just had to stay the course and wait till that changed.

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Speaker 1: And really within about seven and a half months after applying,

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Speaker 1: after the changes had occurred, that was when Sarah who

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Speaker 1: came to Australia.

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Speaker 2: You say that you you had a vision of a

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Speaker 2: small child with brown skin coming towards you. How old

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Speaker 2: were you when you first had this.

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Speaker 1: I was probably about somewhere between thirteen and fourteen, you know,

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Speaker 1: very early puberty. I guess. You know, so that sort

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Speaker 1: of early year when life was very tough, and also

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Speaker 1: your emotions are very delicate, and I was very fragile,

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Speaker 1: and I just had a moment, I guess, but you

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Speaker 1: know it really gave me some comfort and I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: here's something I can take with me to keep me

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Speaker 1: company in my heart. And I stuck with it. I

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Speaker 1: never I just took it as a sign. I thought, yep, okay,

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Speaker 1: I saw it. I believed I saw it. I didn't

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Speaker 1: discuss it with anyone. I just took it with me

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Speaker 1: and continued on.

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Speaker 3: Did you think, at any time before this movie did

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Speaker 3: you think, oh, someone should make a movie about this.

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Speaker 1: No, I didn't think that because predominantly my life and

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Speaker 1: my decisions, and the same with John. We lived our

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Speaker 1: life very privately with our personal views on forming a family,

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Speaker 1: which of course originated when I met John when I

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Speaker 1: was sixteen, and we didn't openly discuss it really except

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Speaker 1: with our very closest family and friends. So for all

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Speaker 1: of that time, a lot of people really didn't have

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Speaker 1: a clue what we were up to.

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Speaker 2: It is an extraordinary tale. And then, as you say, Jonesy,

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Speaker 2: suddenly there are cameras in your life, and in fact

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Speaker 2: you went with Saru to meet his birth family in

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Speaker 2: India in twenty thirteen. Must have been hugely emotional and

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Speaker 2: there were cameras there. How did you feel seeing him

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Speaker 2: touch base with his birth family.

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Speaker 1: For me, it was like a coming home because never

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Speaker 1: for a moment had I forgotten he was born in India,

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Speaker 1: He was an Indian child, even though he was growing

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Speaker 1: up here in Australia. You know, you can't just forget

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Speaker 1: about your roots and your identity. They are a part

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Speaker 1: of you forever, and so I'd always thought of him

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Speaker 1: as Indian Australian second. But for me it was it

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Speaker 1: was just an absolute joy, and so I'm very happy

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Speaker 1: that that opportunity was there for me, and I really

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Speaker 1: felt very supported during the process because I know that

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Speaker 1: some people might think, oh, fancy doing that in front

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Speaker 1: of the cameras, blah blah. But for me, I was

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Speaker 1: doing my thing and it was I think it was

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Speaker 1: as natural and heartfelt as if there were no cameras

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Speaker 1: there that that didn't really affect anything. In fact, it

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Speaker 1: probably aided my experience because I had access to a

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Speaker 1: good translator. I was able to communicate and find out

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Speaker 1: the things that I really wanted to know, and primarily

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Speaker 1: that was, you know, to find out if Fatima had

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Speaker 1: always had a feeling in her hearts that her son

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Speaker 1: was still alive.

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Speaker 3: So that's a good thing. And that's such a good thing.

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Speaker 3: And there's so many things that people do on camera

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Speaker 3: that's unworthy of being broadcast. You're actually doing something that's

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Speaker 3: really good, So that's a good thing. So see your

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Speaker 3: new book LINEUS is available in all good bookstores today.

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Speaker 3: So really thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, my pleasure, thank you so much. Pleasure

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Speaker 1: with join Z and Amanda