Speaker 1: I think once again, like social media and potentially people
Speaker 1: being a bit fake and all that when people do
Speaker 1: own businesses and they talk about it online, they can
Speaker 1: just show that glamorous side and make it seem very
Speaker 1: easy and stuff, and you know, it can give people
Speaker 1: a false representation of the reality of owning your own business.
Speaker 1: But also because business isn't something that they teach in school.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't teach you anything about what it's
Speaker 1: like to own a business or anything. We as a
Speaker 1: society when we finish school or whatever, have no real
Speaker 1: concept of what owning a business is actually like. And
Speaker 1: I feel like the only way that you can know
Speaker 1: for yourself is to give it a go.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Rice and Conquered Podcasts. I'm your
Speaker 2: host Georgie Stivenson, former lawyer turned entrepreneur, social media per
Speaker 2: personality and personal development junkie. This podcast is for my
Speaker 2: girl gang who want to feed their mind with positive
Speaker 2: and expansive thoughts to help them step into their power
Speaker 2: and live their most authentic life. We chat a variety
Speaker 2: of topics including mindset, business, relationships, health, and so much more. Basically,
Speaker 2: wherever you are on your journey, I want to help
Speaker 2: you feel inspired and empowered to rise up and conquer
Speaker 2: your next bold move. I know that's going to look
Speaker 2: different for everyone, but just no, I'm right here by
Speaker 2: your side and that you have the rn C community
Speaker 2: behind you. Let's do this. Hello RNC fam, and welcome
Speaker 2: back to the pod. Today we are joined by the
Speaker 2: absolutely incredible Brittany Lee Saunders. If you don't know brit
Speaker 2: then your day is about to become a whole lot
Speaker 2: more entertaining. She is known for her funny stories and
Speaker 2: big and bright personality. Britt certainly has accomplished a lot
Speaker 2: at her age, and she has three labels under her belt,
Speaker 2: as well as an engaging audience of over one point
Speaker 2: six million. She is an influencer turned entrepreneur, and in
Speaker 2: today's chat, we chat about her business, what it was
Speaker 2: like with her transition from influencing to be an entrepreneur.
Speaker 2: We also chat about how she juggles it all, and
Speaker 2: we do get into her breast implant removal surgery that
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with health but was really just
Speaker 2: a personal choice and the society pressures that come with
Speaker 2: that whole situation. So honestly, guys, this chat is so
Speaker 2: entertaining andsightful. Britt is so down to earth. I followed
Speaker 2: her for a very long time and it's yeah, she's
Speaker 2: exactly how she is on all her platforms and social
Speaker 2: media's and yeah, this chat is great. I hope you
Speaker 2: love it as much as I do. Let's get into
Speaker 2: the podcast. Brit, Welcome to the Rise and Kunker podcast.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. This is my first time doing
Speaker 1: this whole thing that you're doing. So we've just been
Speaker 1: laughing about me not knowing what I'm doing. I went
Speaker 1: to press record and you're like, you don't even have
Speaker 1: a record button because you're the host.
Speaker 2: I know. We're just having some lulls off air, guys,
Speaker 2: so we're warmed up. We're ready, yep to have a
Speaker 2: chat and to get into it. And can I just say,
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you on the pod, I
Speaker 2: was saying off air to Brit. I've followed her for
Speaker 2: a very long time from Afar, love everything you do.
Speaker 2: Some very excited to use chat.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm excited as well. We were just saying before, like,
Speaker 1: even though we're in the same sort of space, like
Speaker 1: this whole influencer business owner thing, our paths have never
Speaker 1: actually crossed I feel like over the years, you know,
Speaker 1: being I hate the word influence. I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: but that is the word that we use to describe.
Speaker 1: But you know, you will come across people, whether it's
Speaker 1: at events or whatever. But our paths have actually never
Speaker 1: happened to gross. So here we are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, never cross. But this is honestly why
Speaker 2: I love the podcast, because I get to talk to
Speaker 2: people you know, I admire and have been following for
Speaker 2: a long time, but on this like not just a
Speaker 2: DM level, but this like let's have a DAL, let's.
Speaker 1: Have an actual conversation, yes for sure, Yeah right, yeah no,
Speaker 1: and especially like you'll find, you know, with your podcast too.
Speaker 2: You do these interviews and yeah, you get to talk
Speaker 2: to people you yeah you might know, but you get
Speaker 2: that sort of deeper level.
Speaker 1: Rather than just a DM or just a comment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all about the yeah deep connection. I love
Speaker 2: a DNM. Well, britt, I'm sure everyone knows who you are,
Speaker 2: but for those who might not know who you are,
Speaker 2: can you give us a little snapshot of who you
Speaker 2: are and what you do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for those of you that don't know me,
Speaker 1: it's Britney Lee's sad It's so funny because on social
Speaker 1: media people know me as Britney Lee Saunders, so then
Speaker 1: when people meet me in real life, they're like, you're
Speaker 1: Britney Lee Saunders. I'm like, it's actually just Britney or
Speaker 1: like even but people like call you by your full name.
Speaker 1: So I am about to turn twenty eight and I'm
Speaker 1: from Newcastle in New South Wales, which is just a
Speaker 1: little beachy kind of city that we have here. I
Speaker 1: was born here, but I've lived all around the country,
Speaker 1: and so I made my mark on social media back
Speaker 1: in the day. Back I'm an OG from so long ago.
Speaker 2: You really are an OG?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I started making YouTube videos in high school when
Speaker 1: YouTube had just come out, and I think the biggest
Speaker 1: girl YouTuber was Michelle Farn Do you remember her? No? Oh,
Speaker 1: she was like the og, like beauty guru, like you know,
Speaker 1: before any of this Instagram and everything. So I started
Speaker 1: back then just because I found an intro. And then
Speaker 1: you know, when I was eighteen nineteen twenty, the YouTube
Speaker 1: channel started to grow and I was working in so
Speaker 1: many jobs, mainly in like admin and pa and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And then when I got to
Speaker 1: twenty one, I was like this is making me just
Speaker 1: enough money that I think I can quit my job.
Speaker 1: So I threw my job in. I was like, fuck it,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a go. And yeah, fast forward
Speaker 1: seven years and here I am and now, like you,
Speaker 1: I'm in the e commerce sort of world, and I've
Speaker 1: got three brands under my belt now. So I've got
Speaker 1: Fate the label, which is women's fashion, and then we've
Speaker 1: got Stable Swim, which is swim, and then we've just
Speaker 1: launched an active wear brand called form Active. So that's
Speaker 1: fully my domain now. And I'm still juggling the whole
Speaker 1: like trying to be an influencer thing on the side,
Speaker 1: just basically keeping everyone entertained on my stories every night,
Speaker 1: and that's basically it. I just work all the time
Speaker 1: and love what I do.
Speaker 2: Love that. Yeah, I know, well it's so interesting and
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to get into a chat about like
Speaker 2: going because I personally find it so difficult going in
Speaker 2: between an influencer and a business owner because they're both
Speaker 2: kind of full time jobs. So you're one hundred trying
Speaker 2: to run a company, trying to take stories, oh podcast,
Speaker 2: It's like it's a lot. So we'll get into that,
Speaker 2: But can you tell me, And I know this is
Speaker 2: going to be so hard because I honestly don't know
Speaker 2: what I would say if you ask me, but what
Speaker 2: it's like a typical day and the life look like
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So every day really is different. But we
Speaker 1: do have like a bit of a schedule. So five
Speaker 1: days a week, I'm always at work, like at our
Speaker 1: office because I have full time staff that work Monday
Speaker 1: to Friday, and then depending like on the weekends, I
Speaker 1: might be there as well. So I'm usually there anywhere
Speaker 1: from five to seven days a week, but just depending
Speaker 1: a usual day will just be myself going into work
Speaker 1: and working with the girls, and really it just depends
Speaker 1: what we've got on that. So most weeks we will
Speaker 1: have new arrivals for one of the three brands. Every
Speaker 1: week we're doing something new. So my main roles at
Speaker 1: work is obviously running the joint. We've got a retail
Speaker 1: store as well, so I oversee that, and I honestly
Speaker 1: do everything and anything, whether it's like going and doing
Speaker 1: a photo shoot, creating content for Oh I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: If you can hear my dog barking right now, you're
Speaker 1: right me. Yeah, we do a lot of content creation.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: What else? Like sometimes I'll be in the warehouse help
Speaker 1: and packing orders, getting the website ready for new arrivals,
Speaker 1: because we do it every single week. Yeah, mainly lots.
Speaker 1: Is your warehouse like connected to your office? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: same big building. Yeah, so I'm honestly, if I'm not
Speaker 1: in the shop, I'll be packing orders, or I'm upstairs
Speaker 1: shooting e commerce images for our website, or I'm out
Speaker 1: at a photo shoot, or I'm helping the girls right
Speaker 1: back to customer service emails if there's some difficult ones
Speaker 1: in there, and yeah, just creating contenting, Yeah, creating.
Speaker 2: Time do you wake up? I wake up at around
Speaker 2: six thirty nice, Yeah, and then what time do you
Speaker 2: go to bed?
Speaker 1: One? It's really bad?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding? No?
Speaker 1: No, it's really bad. The girls at work are like,
Speaker 1: you need to stop. But I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: it's because like I'm not the kind of person. So
Speaker 1: shout out to Caitlin, one of the girls at work.
Speaker 1: She is one of those people that's like, I need
Speaker 1: eight hours and if I get any less, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be enjoyable to be around, Whereas I'm the opposite,
Speaker 1: like I'm fine, I'll just get up, feel a bit tired,
Speaker 1: and be on my way. But I think like when
Speaker 1: you genuinely love what you do, like you can just
Speaker 1: be excited even if you had four hours sleep. But
Speaker 1: I'll say most nights I probably get six.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm in shock because I'm Caitlin. You are
Speaker 2: well seven, Like minimum is seven.
Speaker 1: Maybe I need to make that a goal of mine.
Speaker 2: But in saying that for me, it honestly like I
Speaker 2: have such probably like you, like, such a busy brain
Speaker 2: that to actually get to sleep and have a good sleep,
Speaker 2: I have to have this whole fucking night route for
Speaker 2: me to get me in the zone. And it's like,
Speaker 2: so I can't be like on screens after a certain
Speaker 2: time and it's all this big. It's an ordeal.
Speaker 1: You've got a routine. See, My routine is get in
Speaker 1: bed and then aj always falls asleep before me. And
Speaker 1: then that is when I watch TikTok videos and then
Speaker 1: I'll spend like an hour on there and then I
Speaker 1: start to fall asleep. So our routines are different. Yours
Speaker 1: is like phone off, wine down. Mine is phone on screen,
Speaker 1: blaring in my eyeballs, watching stupid videos. But no, I
Speaker 1: probably do need to get my sleeping pack more in order.
Speaker 1: But hey, no, but you've got to do what works
Speaker 1: for you. I'm all about, like, fuck, what you know
Speaker 1: everyone else is doing? Like works for you?
Speaker 2: You're you're clearly killing it.
Speaker 1: I think I'm okay for now. If you guys see
Speaker 1: me go through any sort of breakdown, remember this podcast
Speaker 1: and be like it's probably because she's tired.
Speaker 2: I'm literally going to message you and be like, babe,
Speaker 2: just get some sleep. That's fine, Like these problems aren't
Speaker 2: that big here. Okay, Well, let's get straight into it.
Speaker 2: So let's really talk about this transformation from you know,
Speaker 2: you're an og influencer. You did YouTube, Instagram, everything. Let's
Speaker 2: talk about the transformation from being an influencer to starting
Speaker 2: your first company. I'm guessing it was fate.
Speaker 1: M h.
Speaker 2: What did that look like? And you know, was it
Speaker 2: an idea? Is that something you wanted to do? Did
Speaker 2: it all just fall into place? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It kind of all just fell into place. And I
Speaker 1: guess the only real experience I had had in fashion
Speaker 1: was just doing hales on YouTube. Uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: obviously loved fashion, but never thought anything really of it,
Speaker 1: And the idea just came about and it fell into place.
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with you, when I first started Fate,
Speaker 1: like we had this big launch party like it all
Speaker 1: it took a while to set up, but it all
Speaker 1: happened really quickly at the same time. But at that point,
Speaker 1: I think back to it now, it's just over three
Speaker 1: years ago. I never thought beyond that. So I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is great, We're going to launch this clothing label.
Speaker 1: And we had a big launch party in Sydney, like,
Speaker 1: I spent heaps of money on it. I made a
Speaker 1: big deal out of it and whatever, and the launch
Speaker 1: was really great. And then I never thought beyond that.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Like it, I was younger back then,
Speaker 1: but and the world is so different now, especially you know,
Speaker 1: the e commerce and online store world. So I feel
Speaker 1: like I was one of the very first influence. How
Speaker 1: long have you had your brand for.
Speaker 2: We're coming to two years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this was over three years ago, so I yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think I remember when you launched Extrait and this
Speaker 2: was no one was doing it doing a company who
Speaker 2: she thinks she No, I didn't think who she didn't.
Speaker 1: I just thought such a bold move. Yeah, So I'm
Speaker 1: really glad that I jumped onto it when I did,
Speaker 1: because I feel like it is becoming quite a trend
Speaker 1: now to see influences very saturated. Yes, Whereas when I
Speaker 1: started it, I feel like no one else was really
Speaker 1: doing it. Maybe some people were selling like eyelashes and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, like that used to be really popular.
Speaker 2: I do recall that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like back then, and.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was just gonna say, Britt, did it ever
Speaker 2: cross your mind to instead of doing your own label, like,
Speaker 2: do a collab with you know, a company that's already
Speaker 2: set up or were you really set on making it
Speaker 2: your own.
Speaker 1: I've always been really independent, so I feel like it
Speaker 1: never really crossed my mind to do a collab with
Speaker 1: another company. And in saying that, whilst back then I
Speaker 1: was doing little White Fox boutique halls and stuff on YouTube,
Speaker 1: and you know, I was getting paid to do that.
Speaker 1: Brands back then weren't doing collab collections with influences. This
Speaker 1: was so long ago that that whole thing of like
Speaker 1: people doing a Boohoo collection and all that wasn't even
Speaker 1: a thing, So it didn't even cross my mind. And yeah,
Speaker 1: fast forward to now, like I didn't think this far
Speaker 1: ahead into the future. I didn't think that it would
Speaker 1: then turn into other brands. I didn't even think it
Speaker 1: really going beyond my garage, you know, Like I had
Speaker 1: my tub set up in my double garage and we
Speaker 1: parked the cars on the street, and you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't think beyond there. So now that I'm doing what
Speaker 1: i'm doing, I'm like, this is exactly what I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be doing. And thank god I started. It was
Speaker 1: fate that I started it, yeah, but I never really
Speaker 1: thought that far into it, and here we are, and
Speaker 1: it's literally the best thing I've ever done, because let's
Speaker 1: be honest, I was getting so sick of making YouTube videos,
Speaker 1: like and people will always go, yeah, but that's where
Speaker 1: you started, and you have all of us to thank
Speaker 1: for your success, and it's like absolutely, but people do outgrowthings,
Speaker 1: as I'm sure you're aware. And I was really struggling
Speaker 1: to hold on to just doing the YouTube stuff because
Speaker 1: I was doing stupid videos back then as well. I
Speaker 1: was younger, like I was doing, Hey guys, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try American candy today, and then I'd get four million
Speaker 1: views on that, and you know, but I couldn't upkeep
Speaker 1: that for much longer because I had been all for years.
Speaker 2: It wasn't almost sustainable like you, I wasn't got to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it got to that.
Speaker 2: Point where you're like, I almost need more depth in
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say depth, but you needed more in your life,
Speaker 2: like almost like more purpose absolutely.
Speaker 1: Because like, yeah, making YouTube videos does have like a
Speaker 1: shelf life and you can keep it going and then
Speaker 1: you know, but it does definitely have a shelf life.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to do more because whilst it's great
Speaker 1: to get all these millions of views on YouTube and
Speaker 1: people know your name, you know, I was still just
Speaker 1: sitting in my house by myself kind of thing, like
Speaker 1: just doing it all myself, and that became pretty not boring.
Speaker 1: But I just felt like I wanted to do more.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: And I think also like if you think about it
Speaker 2: from a perspective of you did have this audience like
Speaker 2: you did have you know the means, and it's like,
Speaker 2: why shouldn't you go out and create something that yourself?
Speaker 2: Like I think sometimes people can feel a bit like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, who is she to do that? But it's
Speaker 2: like would you rather you know, a middle aged man
Speaker 2: create this company?
Speaker 1: And you know what the thing is. The thing is,
Speaker 1: if a middle aged man creates a clothing label, no
Speaker 1: one would say anything, but if exactly if a woman
Speaker 1: creates one, especially if it's an influencer, people be like, eh,
Speaker 1: but it's like, come on, as if you wouldn't do
Speaker 1: the same or at least give it a shot.
Speaker 2: And but that that also annoys me too, because I
Speaker 2: often get a lot of feedback in regards to me
Speaker 2: as an influencer, of people saying, oh, I don't like influencers,
Speaker 2: but I like you Georgie because of you know, you
Speaker 2: have your background with doing law and and whatnot. And
Speaker 2: I but I think like there's something wrong with that
Speaker 2: in regards to thinking that you know, in society's ads,
Speaker 2: it's more valu valuable. Sorry to be someone who is,
Speaker 2: you know, a lawyer compared to an influence.
Speaker 1: It's always but that's just sorry. It's the way the
Speaker 1: world is unfortunately in social media, like there's just this
Speaker 1: stigma around it. Yeah, you know, but at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I think it's up to us as
Speaker 1: the person who is an influencer. I don't like that word, yeah,
Speaker 1: to you know, be our true selves on our social
Speaker 1: media and hope that our audience will just recognize that
Speaker 1: and be able to spot like a genuine person from
Speaker 1: someone who is fake or whatever it may be.
Speaker 2: It's like, I do get it because there are a
Speaker 2: lot of trash influencers out there promote whatever. Let's be honest,
Speaker 2: they promote whatever. They're really bad in regards to their
Speaker 2: only showing you their highlights, they're not real, And so
Speaker 2: I completely get where And that's.
Speaker 1: Sad, Like, though you actually think about it, that is
Speaker 1: so sad that some people are living out that life
Speaker 1: on Instagram, Like I feel sorry for them, But.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine how hard that would be, like trying
Speaker 2: to not be yourself?
Speaker 1: I know, and I'm sure a lot of people would
Speaker 1: be being that way on social media. Like a lot
Speaker 1: of people will think of someone who that they think
Speaker 1: is pretty fake on social media and they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's so fake, But like, why is that person acting fake?
Speaker 1: I think it could even boil down to insecurities or
Speaker 1: a fear of being then true selves, and they will
Speaker 1: have this fake persona and whilst a lot of people
Speaker 1: will see that as a negative and be like, Eh,
Speaker 1: she's this and that, it's like but why is she
Speaker 1: being like that. Let's take a second to think about that,
Speaker 1: because who knows where that kind of stuff would stand
Speaker 1: from one hundred percent probably childhood. Everything stands through childhood.
Speaker 2: Everything is my parents' fault. Literally, I literally have the
Speaker 2: best parents ever, and I always like talk to them
Speaker 2: stuff like that and they're like, oh my god. But
Speaker 2: brit what did your audience think when you transitioned from
Speaker 2: influencer to more being business Like did you get any
Speaker 2: flack on creating less content about starting a company?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What was their response? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, because this was so long ago, and because no
Speaker 1: one else was really doing it. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say no one else wasn't doing it, because I know
Speaker 1: there was a few girls doing like lashes and stuff
Speaker 1: like that and like makeup brushes and stuff. But because
Speaker 1: this was three years ago and I was like twenty
Speaker 1: four ish twenty five, there was a lot of comments
Speaker 1: around like my intentions and like why are you doing this?
Speaker 1: Or you know, may just create content, yeah exactly, or
Speaker 1: people just being like this is so random, or this
Speaker 1: is just going to be one thing that she tries
Speaker 1: to do for a bit and then she's just going
Speaker 1: to give up on it, you know. And because because
Speaker 1: I was younger, my audience was younger as well, So
Speaker 1: I feel like it's been a really long journey for
Speaker 1: me over the last three years to prove to people
Speaker 1: that I am serious when it comes to owning a
Speaker 1: business and you know, creating amazing products. So yeah, whilst
Speaker 1: a lot of people were super supportive and everyone was
Speaker 1: excited like oh my god, you know it was amazing,
Speaker 1: there was those comments floating around, like questioning my intentions
Speaker 1: and also whether this was something I was just trying
Speaker 1: to make a quick buck out of. But I feel
Speaker 1: like now three years in and two other brands under
Speaker 1: my belt, people are like, wow, Brittany actually is serious
Speaker 1: about this shit.
Speaker 2: You have proved just I have.
Speaker 1: And once again, going back to the whole influencer thing,
Speaker 1: what I've spoken about on my podcast recently is just
Speaker 1: how I think we as influencers almost do have to
Speaker 1: put in the extra hard yards to prove to people
Speaker 1: that we are serious because it is such a saturated
Speaker 1: market now and there is so many influences starting this,
Speaker 1: that and the other. Meal plans workouts all this stuff
Speaker 1: that we do lose who's the credibility. So whilst we
Speaker 1: have an advantage of being an influencer and having the
Speaker 1: audience and you know there's potential customers straight off the bat.
Speaker 1: You know, it's up to us even more so to
Speaker 1: prove ourselves that we are legitimate.
Speaker 2: No I do. I totally agree, And I think that's
Speaker 2: what I think too, is it's not it's not the
Speaker 2: worst thing. If you know, if I have to prove
Speaker 2: that I'm organic and I'm you know, authentically myself and
Speaker 2: I've got to stick it out, it's like, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: all good.
Speaker 1: I can do that. Oh, I'm happy to do that.
Speaker 2: I do get where people, Yeah, I do get where
Speaker 2: people come from because there is a lot going on.
Speaker 2: There is a lot of people, you know, creating businesses
Speaker 2: or creating things where you're like, does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly so. And that's interesting as well from my
Speaker 1: point of view, like being in this for three years,
Speaker 1: Like whenever an influencer does come out with a brand,
Speaker 1: a product, whatever it may be, I'm always interested to
Speaker 1: like quietly follow their journey just to see, you know,
Speaker 1: like where they go with it, what they come out
Speaker 1: with next. Are they going to give up on it?
Speaker 1: You know, I guess because I've been doing it for
Speaker 1: three years now. I'm always really interested to see a
Speaker 1: new startup and where it goes. I'm sure you might
Speaker 1: be the same, Like I always like sticky beaking on
Speaker 1: what everyone else is doing.
Speaker 2: AE hundred and ten percent because I always like, I
Speaker 2: think the biggest thing that I underestimated in regards to
Speaker 2: starting like a company from the ground out, because much
Speaker 2: like you, I'm very independent. I had, you know, quite
Speaker 2: a few offers in regards to doing my own you know,
Speaker 2: line or something with a supplement company, and so I
Speaker 2: was always like, no, I really want to start it
Speaker 2: from the ground out. I want to be able to
Speaker 2: be I'm in control freak. So it was all about having.
Speaker 1: Me too, like I've always done everything so independently my
Speaker 1: whole life. So yes, no I could.
Speaker 2: I don't think I got even very important.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could even have a business partner.
Speaker 1: But your business partner is your brother, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and that's like we yeah, we're siblings, so
Speaker 2: we're very like there's so much loyalty, there's so ye exactly,
Speaker 2: there's so much respect, and there's so much kind of
Speaker 2: I can be so straight up with him. I'm not
Speaker 2: worried about, you know, his feelings.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because the fuck that, Like, I can't imagine
Speaker 1: having it. I can't, like, I can't imagine the conflict.
Speaker 1: Like it's one thing dealing with stuff and having issues
Speaker 1: with them, but then like imagine having a business partner
Speaker 1: where you're like in on it together and then you've
Speaker 1: got to say something to them and you're worried about
Speaker 1: them getting upset. Like, my personality couldn't deal with that. No,
Speaker 1: I'm such so at least you've got your brother because
Speaker 1: you can just blow up at him and he's still
Speaker 1: your brother after it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's been quite a few times where he's
Speaker 2: just hung up on me and I've just got and
Speaker 2: he knows that's what I hate the most. Oh god,
Speaker 2: So I just like my blood boy and I will
Speaker 2: then start like texting him in caps and he's like,
Speaker 2: because he's someone who doesn't deal with that, Like if
Speaker 2: I start like raising my voice, he's just like, no,
Speaker 2: you will speak to me like and because I'm a
Speaker 2: fire human, like I'm a leo. Mean yes, right, I'm
Speaker 2: not even fucking angry. I'm just like fire passionate, Yeah, passionate.
Speaker 2: But yeah, what I was kind of saying is one
Speaker 2: hundred percent I love seeing what people do because even
Speaker 2: me getting into naked Harvest, I totally underestimated how much
Speaker 2: work goes into it when you're doing everything yourself. Gally,
Speaker 2: we have a team, you have a team, but yeah,
Speaker 2: like the work, so yeah, when other people do it,
Speaker 2: I always go, hmm, I wonder if this is gonna laugh,
Speaker 2: because I do know that not everyone wants to own
Speaker 2: a business and do that and work weekends, because yes,
Speaker 2: some people.
Speaker 1: Might also, like you know, influencers starting brands and everyone
Speaker 1: questioning their intentions. You know, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: the time influencers will be enticed by the idea of
Speaker 1: saying that they own a brand, and then they quickly realized,
Speaker 1: holy shit, this is not for me because it's too
Speaker 1: much work. Kind of thing as well, exactly.
Speaker 2: And I think some influencers are like from their heart space,
Speaker 2: They're like, I'm a content creator at heart, Like they
Speaker 2: love you know, editing YouTube videos and they love filming.
Speaker 2: Like me personally, I'm not a content creator by heart,
Speaker 2: Like I like creating content and it complements my lifestyle,
Speaker 2: but that's not like my ride or die. And I
Speaker 2: think once you do, you know, you know, have your
Speaker 2: own thing. That obviously takes so much time away from influencing.
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of people too, they're like, fuck,
Speaker 2: I don't have you know, the time to create this
Speaker 2: epic content and stuff like that. Did you find that
Speaker 2: it was harder to, you know, create content and keep
Speaker 2: that side of everything going when you started your businesses?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so ever since I started Fate three years ago,
Speaker 1: so my main thing that I did before that was
Speaker 1: obviously YouTube, and then you know, Instagram and Snapchat on
Speaker 1: the side. I don't have Snapchat anymore. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm too old for it. But back then me, Snapchat
Speaker 1: was absolutely booming. So those were my three priorities. And
Speaker 1: then when Fate started, I pretty quickly learned, holy shit,
Speaker 1: I can't pump out the same amount of YouTube videos
Speaker 1: that I have been and so it was just a
Speaker 1: gradual decrease and I'd go to like one video a month,
Speaker 1: and then one every two months, and then three months
Speaker 1: and now, oh my god, I haven't uploaded a YouTube
Speaker 1: video for so long. I think it's honestly, like, way
Speaker 1: back in last year or something that I posted my
Speaker 1: last video, and I'm like, even to this day, I'm like,
Speaker 1: do I need to get back on there and be.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, do you know that TikTok?
Speaker 1: Do you watch TikTok's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love.
Speaker 1: Do you know the audio? It's like, hey, hell, y'll
Speaker 1: do it? Do I need to just go on my
Speaker 1: YouTube and sit down. It's me just like hey, hell yeah, clated.
Speaker 1: But it's funny because then I'll see people like because
Speaker 1: I have TikTok and I just post stupid stuff on
Speaker 1: there like it's good fun, and people will go, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I remember following you years ago on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Where have you been all this time? And it's like, mate,
Speaker 1: I'm fucking I'm still here. Like, come on my Instagram.
Speaker 1: I'm there every day vlogging my whole life. But you're
Speaker 1: just supposed to show that people don't keep up with
Speaker 1: you on every single platform. But yes, I definitely noticed
Speaker 1: it became really hard to keep up, especially the YouTube
Speaker 1: part because that's like a whole job in itself. But
Speaker 1: over the years, I've kept my Instagram story game strong.
Speaker 1: Like basically every day on my Instagram Stories is like
Speaker 1: a minuteture movie. So if I go a day without
Speaker 1: like doing stuff on my stories, people start asking where
Speaker 1: I am. So I have managed to keep that up somehow.
Speaker 1: As for YouTube, it's currently sitting.
Speaker 2: In the.
Speaker 1: Little pile. Yeah, yeah, Louis, it is in the trash.
Speaker 1: But uh, maybe I will go back, and I think
Speaker 1: I just need to go back and do a video
Speaker 1: and just be like, hey, guys, like, how are you well.
Speaker 2: This is so I totally resonate with this because I
Speaker 2: struggle so much in regards to in saying that I'm
Speaker 2: doing better than you, because I do at least a
Speaker 2: video a month, but Ki, I'm.
Speaker 1: Still crying over the fact that I can't see you
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: And now this, I know, now we got more, but
Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's like a struggle, and it's like not
Speaker 2: you know, as the standard usually you know before, and
Speaker 2: it's just because of time. And I think.
Speaker 1: Anyone that's like mature enough, I guess will see that.
Speaker 1: You know, over the last couple of years, there has
Speaker 1: been comments like you just gave up YouTube and that's
Speaker 1: where you started and you owe all of us for
Speaker 1: your success, and it's like absolutely I do, but I
Speaker 1: also owe my hard work, like is also what made Yeah,
Speaker 1: but anyone, and I think most of my followers, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think they're happy with what I'm giving them,
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. And I think they
Speaker 1: would understand, like she doesn't have the time to make
Speaker 1: YouTube videos. Look at all these other stuff that she's
Speaker 1: doing across three brands and a store and the stuff
Speaker 1: and her podcast and the Instagram stories every day. So
Speaker 1: I think people understand for the most part, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: And I think it's also realizing that in the end too,
Speaker 2: like you need to be happy. And it's like if
Speaker 2: Instagram story is the place that you want to show
Speaker 2: up and you know, b brit then it's like you've
Speaker 2: got to do what's best for you because otherwise you're
Speaker 2: just putting like half aast content on YouTube exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's what I felt like I was doing for
Speaker 1: a while there. I was uploading for the sake of
Speaker 1: uploading because I felt bad that I wasn't And then yeah,
Speaker 1: I just was like, you know what, I've also got
Speaker 1: to just like allocate my time to what is most
Speaker 1: valuable and most important kind of thing. You know, Like
Speaker 1: if I kept working so hard on YouTube, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: really get me anywhere in the future. Whereas like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm turning twenty eight, Like I want to set myself
Speaker 1: up for life kind of things. So putting more effort
Speaker 1: into my businesses is going to be you know, more
Speaker 1: beneficial in the long run. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think also like people appreciate growth in regards
Speaker 2: to like, there would be so many people who find
Speaker 2: your Instagram stories and stuff about business so much more
Speaker 2: interesting now exactly your surface level content on YouTube they're getting, yeah,
Speaker 2: like they're getting more out of it. They're seeing the
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. Like I think the reason why influencer
Speaker 2: brands can do so well is because we show everything,
Speaker 2: and everyone loves transparency. Everyone loves you know, behind the
Speaker 2: scene and seeing all that sort of thing. So it's
Speaker 2: kind of yeah, you've just got to wait up and
Speaker 2: be like, I've got to do what's best for me.
Speaker 2: Oh exactly, Yeah, for sure, And so tell us about Okay,
Speaker 2: a couple more questions about business and then we'll move
Speaker 2: on from that. But what would you say the hardest
Speaker 2: part of owning a businesses?
Speaker 1: Oh, a few things, but I guess number one probably
Speaker 1: just like learning to switch off, which is something I'm
Speaker 1: still not doing well.
Speaker 2: You're going to bed at one am, so see.
Speaker 1: I've been at night out my whole life, even when
Speaker 1: I went to school, Like, I have never been someone
Speaker 1: that goes to bed early. I cannot tell you the
Speaker 1: last time I went to bed before midnight. I'm talking
Speaker 1: over ten years probably, oh my god. But just genuinely
Speaker 1: like knowing when to switch off kind of thing, because
Speaker 1: I can just always be working, like my staff work
Speaker 1: eight till four and then so I'll come home at four.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll stay back until like five or six. But
Speaker 1: then I could literally just be on my laptop and
Speaker 1: my desktop and my phone for the rest of the night,
Speaker 1: like it just never stops. But you know, whilst that's
Speaker 1: like one of the biggest challenges for me, at the
Speaker 1: same time, I don't see it as a challenge because
Speaker 1: I enjoy it so but it's almost a problem because
Speaker 1: I could just literally work twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I like I'm just listening to this
Speaker 2: going holy shit. Brittany is like literally me, I'm an
Speaker 2: exact name. Like I'll do a whole day at the
Speaker 2: warehouse and then come home and just be able to
Speaker 2: keep working on me too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it gets to bloody one am and
Speaker 1: I'm like I need to stop, Like I have to
Speaker 1: force myself sometimes, but it is a problem, but when
Speaker 1: you love what you do, like I'd work twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven if I didn't need sleep, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I think that's like people like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll start my own business and I'll have more like
Speaker 2: lifestyle and flexibility.
Speaker 1: No, I might.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I work way more now in my own business
Speaker 2: than any time.
Speaker 1: Oh one of one hundred percent. My sister owns a
Speaker 1: little Italian restaurant here in Newcastle, and she's three years
Speaker 1: younger than me, and so she was a waitress there
Speaker 1: for years, and then the guy was selling it and
Speaker 1: she was like, I'm going to buy it, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: like yep, like go for it. This was I think
Speaker 1: this was just around the same time that I was
Speaker 1: starting Fate, or maybe just a bit before that. She
Speaker 1: took over the restaurant and I specifically remember her saying,
Speaker 1: and no offense to my sister, not that she'd be
Speaker 1: listening to this, she was like, I just can't wait.
Speaker 1: Like keep in mind she's been a casual waitress at
Speaker 1: this restaurant for the last few years. She's like, it's
Speaker 1: going to be so good. I'm going to be able
Speaker 1: to go on so many holidays and I'm just going
Speaker 1: to pay myself heeds and I'm just there going okay,
Speaker 1: And now she's like, you know, working, yeah, the lunch,
Speaker 1: the lunch and the dinners, and like, you know, she
Speaker 1: hasn't had holidays. But I'm like, I think once again,
Speaker 1: like social media and potentially people being a bit fake
Speaker 1: and all that when people do own businesses and they
Speaker 1: talk about it online, they can just show that glamorous
Speaker 1: side and make it seem very easy and stuff, and
Speaker 1: you know, it can give people a false representation of
Speaker 1: the reality of owning your own business. But also because
Speaker 1: business isn't something that they teach in school, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't teach you anything about what it's like to
Speaker 1: own a business or anything, we as a society when
Speaker 1: we finish school or whatever, have no real concept of
Speaker 1: what owning a business is actually like. And I feel
Speaker 1: like the only way that you can know for yourself
Speaker 1: is to give it a go, if you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, because.
Speaker 1: I feel like people are like when they think if
Speaker 1: people have just come out of year twelve, right, they've
Speaker 1: just finished school, and then you ask them, like, what
Speaker 1: do you think when you think of business owners. I
Speaker 1: feel like most kids would say, oh, just like lots
Speaker 1: of money and like a big house, and you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be the general consensus. I
Speaker 1: don't know if school is different now because I have
Speaker 1: been out of school for ages, but back then, like
Speaker 1: that's all I would have said, like, oh, yeah, like
Speaker 1: the rich kids at my school their parents own businesses,
Speaker 1: Like that would be it, that's the yeah, when in reality,
Speaker 1: it's like business owners work bloody harder than anyone else.
Speaker 1: Not taking credit away from other people, but you work
Speaker 1: so so hard when you have your own business.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Well I actually like my experience is a
Speaker 2: tiny bit different because my parents, they you know, came
Speaker 2: from nothing. They had a plumbing business, built that from
Speaker 2: the ground to up, and you know, retired when they
Speaker 2: were fifty, so did did quite well for themselves. But
Speaker 2: I actually remember seeing how hard they worked.
Speaker 1: See that's so good for you. And I guess kid that, yeah,
Speaker 1: kids would kids who do have parents that own a business,
Speaker 1: that would be a really good like learning experience for them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, And I also remember thinking, if I'm going
Speaker 2: to do this whole own my own business, it's going
Speaker 2: to be something that I absolutely love because I saw
Speaker 2: how hard it was and I just thought, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I could not put in that much effort unless I
Speaker 2: was like in love with Oh.
Speaker 1: You have to love what you do, and I think
Speaker 1: if you don't love what you do, you need to
Speaker 1: be able to walk away from it, just like anything
Speaker 1: like a relationship or a friendship. Same with business. My
Speaker 1: advice to anyone out there that does want to start
Speaker 1: a business of their own, whatever it may be, make
Speaker 1: it something that you genuinely love, whether it's something you
Speaker 1: love yourself or know people who love it. I just
Speaker 1: feel like the idea of owning a business is so
Speaker 1: enticing because we're not brought up really learning anything about it,
Speaker 1: and then we see it on social media and it
Speaker 1: looks so amazing. But I feel that people would get
Speaker 1: into business and go holy shit and realize how much
Speaker 1: it is. And yeah, I would suggest walk away if
Speaker 1: you ever start a business that you don't feel passionate about,
Speaker 1: because otherwise I feel like you won't get any momentum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Your heart has to be in it for sure, and
Speaker 1: your whole body and brain twenty four.
Speaker 2: Cents everything has to be in it. Yes, Well, let's
Speaker 2: switch gears, and let's chat about breast implant removal.
Speaker 1: Why not after that, can we talk about like toenail
Speaker 1: clippings or yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about all that gross starting. No, So
Speaker 2: I want to chat to you about this because this
Speaker 2: is a topic definitely close to my heart. I don't
Speaker 2: literally close to your heart like the plant, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: very close to my heart. Now it's not. But I
Speaker 2: personally got my implants. I got them done when I
Speaker 2: was nineteen. Shit, now, I got them done when I
Speaker 2: was nineteen, and I flew to Thailand and got them
Speaker 2: done there. Yeah, nice, so lovely for me, and I
Speaker 2: had them for seven years and it wasn't until the
Speaker 2: last couple of years where I had really severe health
Speaker 2: issues that no one could work out. And then I
Speaker 2: just had this intuitive feeling and also had watched a
Speaker 2: lot of content on it and got my implants out
Speaker 2: and Lily like, I'm a different human. It's ridiculous, that's Yeah.
Speaker 2: The last couple of years they were making me really sick,
Speaker 2: and I got a thyroid disease and I had a
Speaker 2: miscarriage and all this stuff happened, and it was just
Speaker 2: it was a lot. So I am definitely passionate about just,
Speaker 2: you know, shedding light on it because I got my
Speaker 2: implants thinking oh, there's nothing wrong with them, and I
Speaker 2: need to get them to look a certain way. And
Speaker 2: I just now looking back, George, you're a fucking idiot.
Speaker 1: And I can just only imagine how many other women
Speaker 1: would feel exactly the same, because exactly for everyone listening,
Speaker 1: I had breast implants as well, and I think I
Speaker 1: got them in Yeah, tell her, so I had breast implants.
Speaker 1: I love that we both had breast implants and now
Speaker 1: we don't. That's the most fucked up.
Speaker 2: And we're not even thirty.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys, I've had two surgeries here, so
Speaker 1: I got mine. I think I would have been like
Speaker 1: twenty three or twenty four, so I was a little
Speaker 1: bit older, so I knew exactly what I was doing.
Speaker 1: But then again, I look back at myself at that age,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know what I was doing in life,
Speaker 1: even though I felt like I really had it all together.
Speaker 1: I feel like, is that going to be us for
Speaker 1: the rest of our lives? Like now at twenty eight,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like I know everything. In five years,
Speaker 1: am I going to look back at myself now and
Speaker 1: be like, oh god.
Speaker 2: I one hundred percent this is going to keep happening
Speaker 2: for the rest.
Speaker 1: Of our lives. How much more can I possibly learn?
Speaker 1: Because I'm already pretty smart. So kidding, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: got implants as well.
Speaker 2: I'd the most I asked them. Can I ask you?
Speaker 2: Why can you ask them? Can I ask them? How
Speaker 2: can I ask you why you wanted to get them?
Speaker 1: I'd wanted them for ages, Like I remember when I
Speaker 1: was like a teenager looking at girls who had them,
Speaker 1: and I always admired them. I just feel like when
Speaker 1: I got them and when you got yours, like back then,
Speaker 1: in all those years, it was a trend to get them.
Speaker 1: I can see the trend fading away. Now it's still
Speaker 1: a booming business, but I am seeing more of a
Speaker 1: trend now of people like getting over the whole implant look.
Speaker 1: And you know, people are becoming ill and they have
Speaker 1: breast implants and then they get them taken out and
Speaker 1: then they all of a sudden better. And whilst it's
Speaker 1: not you know, confirmed by the doctors or like some
Speaker 1: doctors believe in, you know, breast implant illness and stuff,
Speaker 1: I just feel like there is a lot of information
Speaker 1: out there now that wasn't out when we were younger,
Speaker 1: and so I feel like women now are more cautious
Speaker 1: when it comes to making those kinds of decisions. But
Speaker 1: I got them purely for the aesthetics. I had, like
Speaker 1: smallish boobs, like maybe a B or C cup at most,
Speaker 1: but like pretty small, and I always just wanted bigger boobs.
Speaker 1: And when I think about that now, I think, why
Speaker 1: the fuck did I ever think that in my head? Like,
Speaker 1: at what point did I think, yes, I want heavy
Speaker 1: things on my chest.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, But I really wanted it.
Speaker 1: I wanted that look and like honestly, And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you feel the same, because you know, some
Speaker 1: women get their breast implants out because they're sick and
Speaker 1: they hate how they look after it. But for me,
Speaker 1: the reason why I got mine out is because I
Speaker 1: hated how they looked on me, and that was the
Speaker 1: most fucked up thing for me to realize. Luckily, for me,
Speaker 1: I was totally myself. I only had them for three years,
Speaker 1: so who knows, you know, maybe I could have eventually
Speaker 1: started getting sick, Like I know, some women get really
Speaker 1: sick and some don't. And I think that's why there's
Speaker 1: so much like arming and a ring in the whole,
Speaker 1: like doctor and plastic surgery world, like you know how
Speaker 1: some doctors so fully believing in it and some aren't. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think it's just because it's like not every single
Speaker 1: person gets sick, you know what I mean, But to.
Speaker 2: Me, it's yeah, And I think it's because everyone reacts
Speaker 2: like has exactly been symptoms. That's like they can't pinpoint
Speaker 2: one symptom that everyone has, so it's just like a
Speaker 2: bit of a sham.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also today, like, if you are putting any
Speaker 1: sort of foreign object in your body, your body can decide,
Speaker 1: you know what. I don't like this, yeah, like it
Speaker 1: does make sense, yes, exactly, and you know what, some
Speaker 1: other women's bodies may not react, and it's fine to
Speaker 1: be in there.
Speaker 2: I love foreign objects here.
Speaker 1: And so I was totally fine with mine, luckily, But
Speaker 1: I have read a lot on Facebook, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like it was like, not even a year
Speaker 1: into having them, I just started I looked in the
Speaker 1: mirror and I wasn't happy with what I was seeing,
Speaker 1: which was so messed up for me because the reason
Speaker 1: why I got them in the first place because was
Speaker 1: because I wasn't happy with how I looked as well.
Speaker 1: And so I just did this full like not even
Speaker 1: a three sixty, I did a one eighty, where I
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden didn't like them being big
Speaker 1: on my chest, and which is weird because I hear
Speaker 1: that a lot of women that get breast in plants
Speaker 1: often wish they went bigger. But for me, it was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, these are too big on my body
Speaker 1: kind of thing. And so for two years after that,
Speaker 1: I went through this whole phase of feeling guilt that
Speaker 1: I'd got them, and I would say to aj oh,
Speaker 1: like I would. I never cried over them, I don't think,
Speaker 1: but I really started hating how I looked, and I
Speaker 1: felt guilty that it was because of something I'd done myself,
Speaker 1: and that I felt like I couldn't go back on
Speaker 1: because then I was worried about what people would say,
Speaker 1: like you got these in and you told us all
Speaker 1: you were getting them, and then you know, I went
Speaker 1: and got them because of you, and now you've just
Speaker 1: turned around and got them out, like you know, make
Speaker 1: up your mind. So for two years, basically I sat
Speaker 1: on it and I didn't want to say anything, and
Speaker 1: i'd become and I still am, like I'm really good
Speaker 1: friends with one of the girls that manages the plastic
Speaker 1: surgeon's office that I went to because I went to
Speaker 1: a local one here in Newcastle, and so I became
Speaker 1: really good friends with Jess who manages it, and so
Speaker 1: then it was this whole like oh my god, like
Speaker 1: I'm really good friends with her now and I know
Speaker 1: the surgeon and his wife because it's like a family
Speaker 1: owned business, and I was like, I feel so bad
Speaker 1: that I couldn't even go to them and go, hey,
Speaker 1: look like it's not got anything to do with you guys,
Speaker 1: but I'm actually not happy with how these looks. So
Speaker 1: I sat on it for like a year and I
Speaker 1: two years, and I winged to aj my mom. And
Speaker 1: the thing is like, you know, aj Mom, like all
Speaker 1: my friends and stuff. When I would say to them
Speaker 1: like I hate how they look on my body because
Speaker 1: they actually looked nice, none of them could understand what
Speaker 1: I was saying, right, And then it made me feel
Speaker 1: more crazy because you know, my mom's there going I'll
Speaker 1: have him like they look fantastic, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Mom saying, so Britt, can I quickly say something because I, oh,
Speaker 2: my god, Like I know the feeling. It's like I
Speaker 2: remember looking in the mirror and being like, I get
Speaker 2: this is the ideal of what I should like, but
Speaker 2: it's like this for me. It was like looking in
Speaker 2: the mirror and going like these aren't this isn't my
Speaker 2: true body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like this isn't me. They just didn't feel a part.
Speaker 2: Of me and disconnected.
Speaker 1: Yes, like as like that's how I felt, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: how I felt as well. And then just the guilt
Speaker 1: of like this was something that I chose to do
Speaker 1: and I wanted to do for so long. So I
Speaker 1: felt this guilt and you know, me saying to my
Speaker 1: mom like I'd send photos to my mom of me,
Speaker 1: like in the mirror with no shirt on me, like, Mom,
Speaker 1: see how big they look and they look wrong on
Speaker 1: my body, and she'd just be like, no, like they
Speaker 1: look awesome, because they did look awesome, Like they were
Speaker 1: never botched or anything like that. The surgeon did a
Speaker 1: fantastic job, but at the end of the day, yeah,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and it just got
Speaker 1: to a point where I was like, fuck it. And
Speaker 1: I told Jess, who manages the plastic surgeons, and she
Speaker 1: felt so bad that I hadn't said anything. So I'd
Speaker 1: spend all this time like freaking out, going, oh my god,
Speaker 1: they're going to think that I hate them, like as
Speaker 1: people or whatever. And she was just like no, like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you should have told us, you know.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I was like,
Speaker 1: it's my body, and you know, it doesn't matter. All
Speaker 1: it matters is you know, this is what I want
Speaker 1: to do. It. I've been pondering on it for so long,
Speaker 1: so I booked myself in and I got them out
Speaker 1: just before COVID kind of hit yeah, and so yeah
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: And how do you feel now they're out?
Speaker 1: Like I literally said to AJ the other night when
Speaker 1: I got out of the shower and I was like
Speaker 1: drying myself, I was like, remember when I had like
Speaker 1: fake boobs. So it got to the point where like
Speaker 1: I couldn't even look at myself in the mirror with
Speaker 1: no shirt on because I didn't like what I was seeing.
Speaker 1: And it's so messed up because like they never looked bad.
Speaker 1: They looked great, Like in terms of aesthetics, they looked
Speaker 1: like a nice natural pair of boobs, but just inside
Speaker 1: I didn't feel right having them. And so now, like
Speaker 1: I honestly haven't looked back. I now have never looked
Speaker 1: down at my chest or looked at myself in a
Speaker 1: mirror or in a photo and gone, oh god, I
Speaker 1: look so bad now, or like my boobs are gone,
Speaker 1: Like I'm back to fully loving my body. And yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm like this is who I am now, Like
Speaker 1: I literally feel like myself and lucky for me, you know,
Speaker 1: unlike you, I was my normal self the whole time,
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't experiencing any sort of sickness or anything.
Speaker 1: But in another sense, what I was experiencing was they
Speaker 1: were affecting my life on a mental level. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I was becoming so interesting. Yeah, And I felt stupid,
Speaker 1: like because I couldn't talk to anyone about it because
Speaker 1: no one else understood, Like AJ didn't understand, my mom,
Speaker 1: didn't understand, my friends. They were all like, they look great,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And it took me a
Speaker 1: long time to realize that it was just in my mind.
Speaker 1: It was a mental thing. And I got them out
Speaker 1: and I walked out of the surgery. I was like,
Speaker 1: I feel so happy now, and I honestly haven't looked back,
Speaker 1: Like I love my boobs now. They're a little bit lopsided,
Speaker 1: like one is a bit lower than the other. But
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have it any other way, because, yeah, it
Speaker 1: made me realize how much I wanted them out. After
Speaker 1: I actually got them out.
Speaker 2: I absolutely love that. You just completely honored yourself too,
Speaker 2: like you're like, no, everyone's like, you know, not on
Speaker 2: my side, but this is something that Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: What it came down too. And you know what, I
Speaker 1: was so scared. You know, obviously I made YouTube videos
Speaker 1: about it back in the day when I got them
Speaker 1: in and documented the process, and like, you know, so
Speaker 1: I was really worried that when I got them out.
Speaker 1: Luckily I got them out when it was coming up
Speaker 1: to winter, so then I wore jumpers for quite a
Speaker 1: few months, and then I didn't tell everyone until the
Speaker 1: weather started warming up later last year because it had
Speaker 1: been maybe like five months that since I got them out.
Speaker 1: But you know, I hadn't worn bikinis or anything, so
Speaker 1: no one really noticed. And when I had the implants
Speaker 1: in as well, I never really got my boobs out,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know for what reason did I ever
Speaker 1: get there in the first place, because I don't dress
Speaker 1: in like little things that show off my boobs anyway anyway,
Speaker 1: So I find people started asking when they noticed, like, oh,
Speaker 1: like you have you gotten your implants removed? And I
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about it for a long time
Speaker 1: because I was worried about, you know, upsetting my friend
Speaker 1: Jess that works at the Plastic Sedion. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I was worried about upsetting her. I think that's
Speaker 1: just like who I am. I didn't want her to
Speaker 1: think I was like shaming her or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But when I sat down and spoke about it on
Speaker 1: my stories, I was worried that then there was going
Speaker 1: to be that influx of like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is so stupid, you know, like how could you go
Speaker 1: and do this? Imagine how many girls would have went
Speaker 1: out and done the same thing because you did. But
Speaker 1: I honestly did not get one bad message, not one
Speaker 1: bad comment. I got an influx of girls saying good
Speaker 1: on you, brit and you know, like doing what you
Speaker 1: feel is right and you know, so important. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so many messages from women saying we need to normalize
Speaker 1: changing our mind about things, especially things like a surgery
Speaker 1: or you know, because when we go in and get
Speaker 1: these things done, like luckily for us, implants are something
Speaker 1: that you can take out, but a lot of other
Speaker 1: surgeries out there you can't reverse. And the fact that
Speaker 1: we are allowed to get these surgeries from as young
Speaker 1: as you were, and the fact that you could go
Speaker 1: overseas and get it, like to me that young, I know,
Speaker 1: you can't be making decisions like that because you know,
Speaker 1: even back when I was twenty.
Speaker 2: Three, it changed so much, oh so much.
Speaker 1: And like back when, as I said, when I was
Speaker 1: twenty three. I thought I had my life together. I
Speaker 1: was just starting up my first business, Like, yes, I'm
Speaker 1: going to go and get implants. But I look back
Speaker 1: at myself now back then, and I'm like I had
Speaker 1: I was not like mature enough to make that decision,
Speaker 1: let alone nineteen eighteen, seventeen, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And they're huge decisions. I don't know how we're allowed
Speaker 1: to make those kinds of decisions, Like to me, something
Speaker 1: doesn't seem right then, like eighteen and going and getting
Speaker 1: breast in plants, Like luckily it's you know, something that
Speaker 1: you can reverse, but it is expensive to reverse it,
Speaker 1: you know, So we just.
Speaker 2: Paid a lot of money to do nothing to our bodies.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't know, but you know what I as
Speaker 1: I have said, like it's it was a journey for
Speaker 1: me and everything's a lesson exactly. And it you know,
Speaker 1: took me hating my natural body, having a surgery, getting
Speaker 1: implants in kind of liking them to begin with, and
Speaker 1: then completely falling out of love with the implants, and
Speaker 1: then hating myself again to then have them removed. I've
Speaker 1: done a full circle. And whilst sure it was a
Speaker 1: waste of time, and money. I'm glad that I did
Speaker 1: it because it was a huge lesson for me in
Speaker 1: terms of, like, you know, being able to go back
Speaker 1: on decisions I've made, because you know, people don't. You
Speaker 1: don't like going back on something you've decided on, especially
Speaker 1: something as big as that. So for me, it was
Speaker 1: just like I was glad because it was a.
Speaker 2: Journey and I learned an important thing to go through.
Speaker 2: Well that's even like for me, I love what you said,
Speaker 2: Like I got to the point as well because I
Speaker 2: didn't get my implants weren't too big or anything, but
Speaker 2: I remember feeling the exact same and feeling like not
Speaker 2: wearing certain stuff because I didn't want my implants out.
Speaker 2: And even like the other day, me and Tim went
Speaker 2: to the store and I was just wearing a bikini
Speaker 2: top and some like flowy pants because we lived close
Speaker 2: to the beach as well, And he actually mentioned something
Speaker 2: and said, like, when I had my implants, I was
Speaker 2: really weird about showing them, not showing them off, but
Speaker 2: just being like, you know.
Speaker 1: I was exactly the same because I.
Speaker 2: Was, Yeah, I almost felt like over sexualized and I
Speaker 2: felt really like weird, where's now because I've got my
Speaker 2: little itty bitty natural thing.
Speaker 1: For me too, I'm like, I don't care to yeah, no, no, brah.
Speaker 2: And I absolutely feel so much more confident with my
Speaker 2: like natural boobs.
Speaker 1: And also like I was gonna say something else but
Speaker 1: I can't remember. But another thing is like each to
Speaker 1: their own, and you know, I feel like that's a
Speaker 1: huge thing too. Yeah, And I feel like back in
Speaker 1: the day, it was way more popular to go and
Speaker 1: get breast in plants. Everyone was getting them like big
Speaker 1: round boltons and kinds of things. But I feel like
Speaker 1: now like obviously each to their own. Some people love
Speaker 1: the look of fake boobs, but for me personally, and
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm seeing a trend now. I feel
Speaker 1: like the big round, fake looking boobs. Not that mine
Speaker 1: were that or nor were yours, but I feel like
Speaker 1: that is really becoming quite outdated now. And what I'm
Speaker 1: seeing now is people actually loving the look of small boobs.
Speaker 1: And but I see myself now in photos, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I look so good even though my chest looks completely flat, Like,
Speaker 1: I freaking love it. So I'm really glad for me.
Speaker 2: This is a huge lesson too, in regards to beauty
Speaker 2: standards and beauty idea. It's always changing, Yes, moving forward.
Speaker 2: Like I've said to myself before, you want to change
Speaker 2: something about yourself, like you really need to, Like is
Speaker 2: this just a current beauty standard that's exactly you know,
Speaker 2: pressured to be in because there is, it's a trend.
Speaker 2: Things changed, like and I think honestly, when you're being
Speaker 2: such your authentic self and you're embracing everything that you
Speaker 2: know you're born with your natural body, nothing like nothing
Speaker 2: is sexier, nothing is, Like I totally agree, and isn't
Speaker 2: it my person?
Speaker 1: Yes? I agree? And isn't it so sad that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, as women were kind of brought up thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, if you have a flat chest, you're not
Speaker 1: a woman, you're not a woman, you're not sexy. You
Speaker 1: don't like that is so fucked up and it's so
Speaker 1: messed up. It's so sad because I know so many
Speaker 1: girls that feel that way, and to me, that just
Speaker 1: is really sad. But unfortunately that's just the way society is.
Speaker 1: Another thing that I was going to say before, when
Speaker 1: I did tell everyone about getting them out, I was
Speaker 1: also surprised, like because I was expecting an influx of
Speaker 1: people being like what the fuck, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: why I thought that, because my audience has grown up
Speaker 1: with me kind of things, So I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I guess I always have a little bit of doubt
Speaker 1: in my mind. But I was really surprised by how
Speaker 1: many girls actually said that they feel the exact same
Speaker 1: about their implants. Yes, I couldn't believe it. I did
Speaker 1: not expect one person to write back saying I know
Speaker 1: exactly what you mean and I feel the same. But
Speaker 1: I even had girls ask like, where did you go
Speaker 1: to get yours out? I've been wanting to get mine out?
Speaker 1: Or like I totally relate, and people saying like, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to get them out and I just can't
Speaker 1: afford it now, and I hate myself for getting it.
Speaker 1: So I feel like people feeling the way that I
Speaker 1: felt about my implants, you know, not being health related
Speaker 1: but just more of an aesthetics sort of thing is
Speaker 1: a lot more common than we think, but people are
Speaker 1: too scared to speak up about it and admit that
Speaker 1: they have made a decision that they now regret kind
Speaker 1: of thing once again, Just like like we need to
Speaker 1: normalize changing our minds on things like that, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: the amount of messages that I got of girls saying
Speaker 1: far out like I want to do the same. I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, I was not expecting any any messages
Speaker 1: like that, because I really did feel alone in that sense,
Speaker 1: because you know, I was like, I've gone and got
Speaker 1: these implants and told everyone, and now I don't like them,
Speaker 1: and now I feel guilty and ashamed, you know, But
Speaker 1: it's more common than we think.
Speaker 2: A hundred percent. And that's why, you know, I really
Speaker 2: wanted to chat about it today because we both got
Speaker 2: our implants out for different reasons, but feeling the same
Speaker 2: way post.
Speaker 1: Oh one, Like I've walked out of there and I
Speaker 1: felt great.
Speaker 2: Me too, Oh my god. It was insane, Like I
Speaker 2: remember Tim looking at me a couple of days later
Speaker 2: and he's like, holy fuck, babe, like you just like
Speaker 2: my eyes were clearer, like I had so much inflammation
Speaker 2: in my body, like it was insane. And then just
Speaker 2: even mentally like yeah, how I felt. I was like, fuck,
Speaker 2: I feel awesome?
Speaker 1: How good? I literally walked out obviously was still like
Speaker 1: on drugs, but I walked out like, oh I felt great,
Speaker 1: and it was like slowed down, like I'm like skipping
Speaker 1: through the car park.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I feel so funny.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's probably all the painkillers that you're on,
Speaker 1: But are.
Speaker 2: Okay, Brent. So to finish off the podcast, and honestly,
Speaker 2: I feel like we could just chat forever, I know,
Speaker 2: But to finish off the podcast, I would love for
Speaker 2: you to tell us what's next for you. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you have, you know, so much going on, and you know,
Speaker 2: we're all going to keep up with your business and
Speaker 2: everything like that. But for you personally, what are you
Speaker 2: focusing on this year? What's next for you?
Speaker 1: Is it bad? The only thing I'm really focusing on
Speaker 1: is work.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's not bad. We love that. We love
Speaker 2: that here on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, literally just work and a little bit more work. No.
Speaker 1: So we launched our activewear brand just like at the
Speaker 1: very end of November last year, and then we that
Speaker 1: was like our first launch, and then we didn't want
Speaker 1: to launch anything just before Christmas kind of thing because
Speaker 1: it was too quick of a turnaround. So we've only
Speaker 1: had the one launch with our active wear brands. So
Speaker 1: next week we're getting the ball rolling. We've got our
Speaker 1: second collection launching. It's a little delayed. I did plan
Speaker 1: for it to be like January February. So I'm really
Speaker 1: excited to see where that brand takes us because it's
Speaker 1: it's a baby, it's a new brand, you know. I've
Speaker 1: got the other two which are really quite prominent now
Speaker 1: in where they're at, Whereas it's really exciting starting a
Speaker 1: brand from scratch. You know. We've got a few followers
Speaker 1: now and I'm excited to see where it goes. And
Speaker 1: other than that, another thing that I'm really excited to
Speaker 1: be working on this year is we've created like a
Speaker 1: sub brand off of Fate, so we're stepping into doing
Speaker 1: more like of a premium range, and we've called it
Speaker 1: Fate Refined and it's like evening Where specifically, so think like,
Speaker 1: you know, go into engagement parties, birthdays, bridal parties, like
Speaker 1: a luxe range. So it's still under the Fate brand,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of like a little sub brand of
Speaker 1: its own. So we're going to launch that either this
Speaker 1: month or next. We've just got to arrange our photo shoot,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that is going to be a
Speaker 1: really exciting little venture in itself because I feel like
Speaker 1: it is quite hard for women to find evening Where
Speaker 1: at an affordable price point, especially if they are you know,
Speaker 1: in a size fourteen, sixteen, eighteen twenty kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like there's some specialty stores out there
Speaker 1: that might do you know your curve or extended size range.
Speaker 1: But I'm really excited because straight off the bat with
Speaker 1: the Fate Refined, we're going to be doing amazing styles
Speaker 1: in sizes six through through to twenty like we do
Speaker 1: for all the other brands. So I feel like I've
Speaker 1: got a real advantage point there. And just from what
Speaker 1: I've shared on my own Instagram stories and stuff, like
Speaker 1: people seem really excited. I've had women emailing us, like
Speaker 1: We've had so many emails like, hey, my wedding's in March, like,
Speaker 1: you know, are you going to have the dresses? I
Speaker 1: need them for my bridesmaids. And we've had a few
Speaker 1: bridal boutiques reach out to us, So there's going to
Speaker 1: be an opportunity there for us to like be stocked
Speaker 1: in different boutiques and so that's just something else I'm
Speaker 1: really excited for. But other than that, this year so
Speaker 1: work and more work.
Speaker 2: I love it. You're so passionate about what you do
Speaker 2: and it shows and oh yeah, community do what I
Speaker 2: can feel that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I do what I do honestly, Like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be putting my eggs in all these baskets
Speaker 1: if I wasn't yeah, loving it. Yeah, those are my
Speaker 1: two things that I'm really looking forward to this year.
Speaker 1: Other than that, I'm really looking forward to going to
Speaker 1: a wedding in April because it's in Brisbane and it's
Speaker 1: going to be like the first trip that I've been
Speaker 1: on in so long. So that's one thing I'm also
Speaker 1: really excited about. Like I don't I think it's been
Speaker 1: like over a year since I've been on a plane.
Speaker 1: That's say for everyone else as well, basically, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that as well. I would say, like,
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to going on a holiday, but
Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to be going overseas at
Speaker 1: all this year, So no.
Speaker 2: Not at all. I think that's more Yeah twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: they're saying, so man, but you.
Speaker 1: Know what, like, whilst this whole pandemic thing has been
Speaker 1: so hard on so many people, like basically the whole
Speaker 1: friggin globe, for me as a business owner, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure for you as well, it's been an opportunity for
Speaker 1: me to really like work.
Speaker 2: Friggin hard and in your last down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the last year that COVID has been around,
Speaker 1: I've worked harder than I ever have before. You know,
Speaker 1: usually I would have had like two holidays overseas and
Speaker 1: all that, but I've really knuckled down and worked really
Speaker 1: hard throughout this. And I've been so fortunate to be
Speaker 1: in the online space, you know, because I know a
Speaker 1: lot of businesses suffered and you know, had to close
Speaker 1: and or like learn how to get online and start
Speaker 1: selling their stuff online. Yes, but for me, it's been
Speaker 1: just like a really long, big year of working, which
Speaker 1: I've been kind of grateful for, but obviously not because COVID.
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to keep working.
Speaker 2: Basically, all right, you have it here, guys, Britt is
Speaker 2: a workaholic. Well, thank you so much, Brett. Honestly, it
Speaker 2: has been such a pleasure. And I will make sure
Speaker 2: I link all your links and all your businesses in
Speaker 2: the show notes so the audience can check it out.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just want to say a big thank
Speaker 2: you for coming on the pod.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, and we're recording one for
Speaker 1: my podcast as well, if anyone, yes, guys, we need
Speaker 1: to work out, like, are they going to be uploaded
Speaker 1: around the same time so they can go and straight
Speaker 1: and listen to the other one if they want, or
Speaker 1: we'll have to work out.
Speaker 2: We'll let everyone know one hundred percent. That sounds good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So I will also be on britz pod. So make
Speaker 2: sure you, guys, I will link it in the show notes,
Speaker 2: or make sure I just link her pods to you.
Speaker 1: What is a show note?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I will tell you are fair. This
Speaker 2: is embarrassing, guys.
Speaker 1: I'm such a nube when it comes to podcast Like
Speaker 1: I can talk into a microphone for an hour, I
Speaker 1: love it, But when it comes to the whole technical side,
Speaker 1: don't ask me any questions because I don't know.
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