Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro is Australia's most talked about influencer. At nineteen,
Speaker 1: she made it big on social media when she shared
Speaker 1: her fitness journey while pregnant.
Speaker 2: This is my first blog again, so like it might
Speaker 2: be a little bad.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be boring or what,
Speaker 1: but hope you guys enjoy it. Tammy's life is far
Speaker 1: from boring. The fitness influencer and her family are Australia's
Speaker 1: answer to the Kardashians. In fact, she's even been involved
Speaker 1: in a few Kardashian scandals herself.
Speaker 3: A model explains why she had to leave Kylie Janno's
Speaker 3: Los Angeles birthday party in a stretcher.
Speaker 1: By sharing her life online, Tammy has attracted over twenty
Speaker 1: million followers and built an empire worth fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1: What has really kept her followers glued are her romantic relationships.
Speaker 1: Over the last ten years, the internet has borne witness
Speaker 1: to three engagements, three children, one epic wedding and now
Speaker 1: a divorce. We are journalist Sophie and Kate Talbert and
Speaker 1: in this special Outspoken series, we explored the real story
Speaker 1: behind the rise of Tammy hambro When we last left you,
Speaker 1: Tammy and Reese had just broken up after weeks of speculation.
Speaker 1: On the eighth of June twenty eighteen, Tammy confirmed the
Speaker 1: news to fans in a YouTube video aptly titled life Update,
Speaker 1: we broke Up.
Speaker 4: Let's throw to some of what she said.
Speaker 5: So a couple months ago, or somewhere between one and
Speaker 5: two months ago, I decided to end things with Greece.
Speaker 2: He didn't cheat on me.
Speaker 5: I didn't cheat on him. It wasn't like that at all.
Speaker 5: There's just I don't honestly, I'm not going to go
Speaker 5: into the ins and outs of our relationship. Obviously, we're human.
Speaker 4: We're not perfect.
Speaker 5: We have ups and downs like everybody else, just like you.
Speaker 1: Tammy went on to reveal that she was unsure whether
Speaker 1: she should make the video or not, but she had
Speaker 1: received so many questions about her relationship status with Reese
Speaker 1: that she didn't want people to think that she was
Speaker 1: ignoring them, and you could tell how difficult it was
Speaker 1: for Tammy to actually make the video. She said that
Speaker 1: she and ree still loved each other very much and
Speaker 1: will always be family because of the kids. She also
Speaker 1: prefaced her kid's health and happiness came first.
Speaker 6: She then said this, like it's a super hard situation,
Speaker 6: especially when there's kids involved, Like everything's just a million
Speaker 6: times harder than like a regular breakup.
Speaker 5: In my opinion, I don't want people to think that
Speaker 5: we just gave up or anything like most people would know.
Speaker 6: There's a lot more to relationships.
Speaker 5: Relationships are very complex.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because a few times during the video she
Speaker 1: said that they were currently broken up, which made it
Speaker 1: sound like there was some room for reconciliation. She also
Speaker 1: explained that she had taken a while to speak about
Speaker 1: it because they were still working.
Speaker 4: On things on their own.
Speaker 1: When this news broke, there were so many fans who
Speaker 1: were devastated because they were absolutely invested in this relationship.
Speaker 1: Tammy and Reese had really painted themselves as this hashtag
Speaker 1: couple goals. They were living the life that so many
Speaker 1: people wanted to live with this young family, and they
Speaker 1: were incredibly glamorous. There were also a lot of disillusioned
Speaker 1: fans who felt as though they had been lied to
Speaker 1: and accused the couple of portraying a perfect relationship when
Speaker 1: in reality it was clearly far from the truth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and this was a big turning point for Tammy hembro
Speaker 1: so iphy as you said a lot of people were
Speaker 1: disillusioned by her content. I mean, we've got to remember
Speaker 1: this was in twenty eighteen as well, so seven years
Speaker 1: ago when people weren't so savvy about online relationships, and
Speaker 1: also the fact that a lot of influencers just share
Speaker 1: their highlight reel. In July, Re shared his own statement
Speaker 1: about the breakup to his YouTube channel. At the time,
Speaker 1: he was holidaying in Bali with his best friends. Here's
Speaker 1: a snippet of what he said.
Speaker 7: So obviously, I definitely need to address a few things
Speaker 7: with all of you guys. Tear Me uploaded the YouTube
Speaker 7: video a little while ago about us breaking up. I
Speaker 7: don't really know why she did or, you know, one
Speaker 7: hundred percent, I didn't really want it to happen, And
Speaker 7: you know, it's been a pretty rough couple of months
Speaker 7: trying to deal with the fact, you know, like rejection.
Speaker 7: I guess it is I've been rejected by someone. So
Speaker 7: that's been kind of rough. It's been probably the hardest,
Speaker 7: you know, two three months of my life. Like I said,
Speaker 7: I'm not sure why one hundred percent why We were
Speaker 7: having a few disagreements and things. But yeah, again, it
Speaker 7: wasn't just it wasn't my decision. And you guys can
Speaker 7: ask her as to why, because.
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.
Speaker 7: Try and you say an opinion that might not be true.
Speaker 7: I just don't know.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that he released this video a couple of
Speaker 1: months after the breakup and was still claiming that he
Speaker 1: didn't fully know why Tami broke up with him. I
Speaker 1: think it was a bit of a strategy to try
Speaker 1: and shift the narrative and make himself the victim because
Speaker 1: he was really pulling at the heart strings by saying
Speaker 1: that he was rejected and blindsided. Now, two months after
Speaker 1: the breakup announcement, Tammy Hembro hit rock bottom. She made
Speaker 1: headlines when she was stretchered out of Kylie Jenna's twenty
Speaker 1: first birthday party after she reportedly collapsed. Unfortunately for Tammy,
Speaker 1: paparazzi were waiting out the front of the venue and
Speaker 1: photographed her face down on the stretcher. The incident actually
Speaker 1: happened before Kylie Jenna had even arrived at the party.
Speaker 1: I remember when this story broke at the time that
Speaker 1: there was a lot of speculation as to who this
Speaker 1: guest was at the party because, as you mentioned, Kate,
Speaker 1: Tammy was lying face down on the stretcher. So it
Speaker 1: led to a big guessing game. And I think that
Speaker 1: this made the story even bigger when it was then
Speaker 1: revealed that it was Tammy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel for Tammy in this situation. It's like it's
Speaker 1: a guessing game and you're hoping that no one knew.
Speaker 4: It was you now.
Speaker 1: Tammy was invited to Kylie's twenty first after striking up
Speaker 1: a friendship with the Kardashians after she modeled for Chloe's
Speaker 1: brand Good American, and it was actually Chloe who was
Speaker 1: a fan of Tammy. So Chloe followed Tammy's fitness journey
Speaker 1: and publicly stated that Tammy had influenced her own fitness journey.
Speaker 1: It was in late twenty seventeen when Chloe's team reached
Speaker 1: out to Tammy and asked her to model for the
Speaker 1: Brandon Tammy documented the whole Good American shoot as well
Speaker 1: as her meeting Chloe. Let's have a listen.
Speaker 3: Clean Chloe herself.
Speaker 1: What I just had to shoot with her.
Speaker 3: I don't know how amazing look for her and you go,
Speaker 3: langs are anything I would pay for a wait, you guys,
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 1: This just shows the international reach that Tammy Hembro has.
Speaker 1: I think living in Australia, you forget just how many
Speaker 1: followers she has all over the world.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, her connection to the Kardashians also helped her grow
Speaker 1: even further.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: Following the incident at Kylie Jenner's birthday party, media reported
Speaker 1: that the Kardashians weren't happy with Tammy and claimed that
Speaker 1: Kim Courtney Care and Chris all unfollowed her, while Kylie
Speaker 1: and Chloe remained following. Kylie, Jennet nor any of the
Speaker 1: Kardashians have actually ever publicly commented on the event. Now.
Speaker 1: At the time, this Stretcher incident was absolutely massive, Kate.
Speaker 1: It made global headlines, and Tammy ended up releasing a
Speaker 1: now deleted YouTube video explaining what happened. Here's some of
Speaker 1: what she said.
Speaker 2: So basically what happened is I was in LA I
Speaker 2: was running off pretty much thirty hours no sleep. I
Speaker 2: was struggling to stay wait, even when I was getting
Speaker 2: my hair and makeup done, I was literally sitting that
Speaker 2: like falling asleep, like I could barely keep my eyes open.
Speaker 1: Tammy went on to say she should not have been
Speaker 1: drinking when she had such little sleep. Interestingly, she blamed
Speaker 1: her impulsive behavior on her recent breakup with Rhys Hawkins.
Speaker 2: I think because of the breakup, I've been trying to
Speaker 2: keep myself busy and not really taking time to think
Speaker 2: about how I'm actually feeling or focusing on myself kind
Speaker 2: of thing.
Speaker 1: Tammy ended the video by calling out the trolling she'd
Speaker 1: been receiving.
Speaker 4: She ended up breaking down.
Speaker 1: In tears when she thanked her supporters.
Speaker 4: Let's take a listen.
Speaker 2: Another thing I wanted to bring up is just people
Speaker 2: trolling or being nasty or making up things just for
Speaker 2: no good reason. I mean, I personally could never imagine
Speaker 2: attacking someone or judging someone for something like this. Thank you,
Speaker 2: guys for all the people who have sent supportive and
Speaker 2: kind messages. I'm super grateful for it because I know
Speaker 2: I have a lot of true fans.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: Tammy experienced a lot of trolling over this incident. She
Speaker 1: also received an outpouring of support. Fans on Twitter came
Speaker 1: out in defense of her, with one writing Tammy hembro
Speaker 1: only broke up with the man she was meant to
Speaker 1: marry recently. Let the woman be a drunkards bitch in
Speaker 1: these Another said, Tammy hembro getting unfollowed by the Kardashians
Speaker 1: for being too drunk and vomiting at their event is
Speaker 1: absolutely iconic. I want to be.
Speaker 4: Her friend.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: Tammy recently shed more light on the incident in her book.
Speaker 1: She called the moment her rock bottom and said she
Speaker 1: went from media darling to public enemy. As for the night,
Speaker 1: she said it was highly stressful and embarrassing, and claimed
Speaker 1: that she only had one or two drinks before she collapsed.
Speaker 1: I don't know do we actually believe that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'd like to think she's telling the truth. She says
Speaker 1: she had very little sleep. But do we think the
Speaker 1: Kardashians didn't fly her over in business class? Well, I
Speaker 1: think it's all a bit of an excuse. We've got
Speaker 1: to remember Tammy would have only been twenty four at
Speaker 1: the time she'd been flown over by the Kardashians to
Speaker 1: attend this birthday party. She'd just broken up with her
Speaker 1: baby daddy and fiance. Who isn't getting on the drinks
Speaker 1: at an event like that. I'm sure all of the
Speaker 1: drinks would have been paid for. I mean, do we
Speaker 1: really blame her. I feel sorry for it be so humiliating,
Speaker 1: because she said she woke up in hospital to find
Speaker 1: that there were these pictures published of her being carried
Speaker 1: out of the party on a stretch, and in her book,
Speaker 1: she wrote, I kept telling myself there is only up
Speaker 1: from here. It was a very dark time and I
Speaker 1: had to shut out the trolls and the hate I
Speaker 1: was getting. I understand that this would be bad for
Speaker 1: her image, considering she was pushing this very clean eating,
Speaker 1: healthy fitness influencer esthetic. But I think that it also
Speaker 1: got her more known internationally. I'd be interested to know
Speaker 1: how many extra followers she got off the back of
Speaker 1: this incident.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of a case of all.
Speaker 1: Publicity is good publicity, particularly when you're juxtaposition next to
Speaker 1: the Kardashians. Now, two months after the incident, Reese Hawkins
Speaker 1: announced he had a new girlfriend, American model London Gowan.
Speaker 1: Now it's rumored that London was sliding into Reese's dms
Speaker 1: before Tammy had even posted their break up video. After
Speaker 1: Reese broke the news, Tammy ended up sharing a cryptic
Speaker 1: quote on Instagram. We know she loves a bit of
Speaker 1: a quote, which read breakup's hurt, but losing someone who
Speaker 1: doesn't respect and appreciate you is actually again not all loss.
Speaker 1: She did end up leading the post, though shortly afterwards.
Speaker 1: She followed it up though with an Instagram story saying, man,
Speaker 1: if people knew the truth about some people biting my
Speaker 1: tongue so hard, It's going to bleed when I'm done.
Speaker 1: London ended up going back at Tammy and posted a
Speaker 1: selfie with the caption hey hate you you I don't
Speaker 1: like your girlfriend. Those, of course, are iconic Avril Lavigne lyrics.
Speaker 1: That post was also swiftly deleted. Tammy ended up ignoring
Speaker 1: London's potshot, and she took the higher road instead. She
Speaker 1: posted a selfie with her kids, Wolf and Saskia with
Speaker 1: the caption I wanted to spend each moment of the
Speaker 1: day with you now. Following the cryptic post, Tammy gave
Speaker 1: an interview to a magazine and said, you have a
Speaker 1: picture of what you think your life is going to
Speaker 1: be like, and then circumstances change and people changed too.
Speaker 1: We were young when we got together and still figuring
Speaker 1: things out.
Speaker 4: I think when people.
Speaker 1: Are weighing in on your personal life or you're trying
Speaker 1: to understand things yourself. It can feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure. I share so much of my life, so
Speaker 1: I understand that my followers online wanted to know what
Speaker 1: was going on. People were wanting to know what happened
Speaker 1: before we even knew what was going on. As for
Speaker 1: Tammy's love life, it was rumored that she was in
Speaker 1: and on again off again romance with Canadian rapper Juquoy
Speaker 1: Palmer around the time of this hard launch. Now things
Speaker 1: started to get nasty around this point. A month later,
Speaker 1: Reese publicly criticized Tammy's approach to sharing their children online.
Speaker 1: During Instagram Q and A. Someone wrote in saying, where
Speaker 1: are your kids, mate? Why out there wasting time instead
Speaker 1: of being a dad? Reese responded saying, I've seen my
Speaker 1: kids every day last week. I just don't feel the
Speaker 1: need to post them all the time. They're getting older
Speaker 1: and have their own personalities, and they can choose if
Speaker 1: they want to be posted or not when they're a
Speaker 1: bit older. I just let them be kids and try
Speaker 1: and enjoy my time with them on the days I
Speaker 1: get to spend time and see them.
Speaker 4: For now. Now, This wasn't the first time.
Speaker 1: Reese revealed he didn't like his children being online. Shortly
Speaker 1: after the split, at a pr event, Rees said within
Speaker 1: the next twelve months, I'll take my children off all
Speaker 1: of my social media just because they're starting to get
Speaker 1: their own personalities and things like that. I don't want
Speaker 1: to force them into anything they don't want to do,
Speaker 1: or make them take a picture when they don't want to.
Speaker 1: They're their own people. They're not babies anymore, people recognize them.
Speaker 1: It'd be really tough to navigate. What do you do
Speaker 1: when two parents have conflicting views about how they want
Speaker 1: to share their children online, particularly when they're not together anymore,
Speaker 1: and particularly when one of the parents has seventeen million followers.
Speaker 1: It seemed like it was just a way for Reese
Speaker 1: to have a bit of a dig at Tammy, though,
Speaker 1: because he was complicit in sharing them when they were together.
Speaker 1: Things really went full circle in January twenty nineteen, when
Speaker 1: rumors emerged the Tammy was dating Kylie Jenner's ex boyfriend
Speaker 1: Tiger after being spotted kissing him at the Rolling Loud
Speaker 1: festival in Sydney. She was also seen following the rapper
Speaker 1: around Australia during his tour and hanging out backstage. Now,
Speaker 1: in terms of a timeline. Kylie Jenner dated Tiger two
Speaker 1: years earlier, so there wasn't a close crossover, but it
Speaker 1: clearly would have hissed Kylie off considering they were friends
Speaker 1: well close enough, and it also would have backed up
Speaker 1: these rumors that the Kardashians weren't.
Speaker 4: Happy with her.
Speaker 1: Tiger is someone who doesn't mind dating within the same circles.
Speaker 1: His ex girlfriend, Black China famously dated Rob Kardashian and
Speaker 1: they actually had a baby together.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Tammy and Tiger's relationship is believed to have lasted around
Speaker 1: ten months, with Tiger even writing a song about Tammy.
Speaker 1: The song is called wet Wies, very romantic and as
Speaker 1: you can probably tell by the title, it's an X
Speaker 1: rated song about a sexual encounter with a woman called Tammy.
Speaker 1: Let's play a snippet so we don't have to read
Speaker 1: out the lyrics.
Speaker 9: Ibing that as you about make it go, don't stop,
Speaker 9: let me up outside of in and out blacking lot
Speaker 9: is topped off top bound cup like the capers. Don't
Speaker 9: say a clack and that came on the that name
Speaker 9: the damn damp he danced, he dance you nass you
Speaker 9: no pan, no pan get a wet wave that'll come
Speaker 9: a handy and the pussy here, bitch, you just have
Speaker 9: a grammy.
Speaker 1: When you hear the someone's written a song about you,
Speaker 1: you probably get all excited thinking it's this great love song,
Speaker 1: and then to hear those lyrics, I personally wouldn't be
Speaker 1: thrilled about it. It is kind of iconic in a way, though, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, she's known for her ass, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: meant to the lyrics now. Tammy later confirmed on her
Speaker 1: podcast Hanging with the Hembros that the song was about her,
Speaker 1: and she said she had approved the lyrics, but admitted
Speaker 1: that they had been blown out of proportion. She also
Speaker 1: went on to claim that she and Tiger were just friends,
Speaker 1: saying that people are ridiculous and that she's literally just
Speaker 1: friends with him. She said, I've been to a bunch
Speaker 1: of his shows and I'm just friends with people that
Speaker 1: he's friends with. So again, take a shot every time
Speaker 1: she said friends. How can she say that though, when
Speaker 1: she confirmed that the song lyrics were about her and
Speaker 1: that she had approved them, like, it doesn't really make
Speaker 1: a whole lot of sense, But she's saying that it's
Speaker 1: just a made up scenario and it's all a bit
Speaker 1: of a laugh. Well, it appears to Tammy's relationship with
Speaker 1: Tiger hit a nerve with Reese Hawkins. A month after
Speaker 1: the relationship rumors surfaced, Reese called Tammy out on his
Speaker 1: Instagram story. His main gripe was to do with Tammy
Speaker 1: repossessing his range Rover. Let's have a listen to what
Speaker 1: he said.
Speaker 8: Basically, nothing has gone to plan or ended well, and
Speaker 8: I just wanted to let you guys know that I
Speaker 8: basically I've tried really really hard to it's my separation
Speaker 8: from my ex and everything like that, to get it
Speaker 8: settled and be amicable.
Speaker 10: And so, yeah, sadly I lost my range Rover yesterday.
Speaker 10: They got repossessed and she decided that I didn't need
Speaker 10: that either. So I don't have a car to even
Speaker 10: pick my kids up anymore.
Speaker 4: I mean, why should.
Speaker 1: Tammy be paying for this guy's range Rover. Take it
Speaker 1: off the guy. He can get around in something else.
Speaker 4: No sympathy there from you.
Speaker 7: So no.
Speaker 1: I actually remember this story coming out because it was
Speaker 1: around the time that we thought about launching a podcast,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, there's just so many
Speaker 1: great stories like this out there because This was a
Speaker 1: massive story at the time. Well Reese went on to
Speaker 1: claim that Tammy was planning to sue him, and he
Speaker 1: also accused her of quote following musicians around America. Obviously
Speaker 1: that's a dig about Tiger. Reese later told The Daily
Speaker 1: Mail as well that he was in a bitter war
Speaker 1: with Tammy and said at the moment there was no
Speaker 1: contact now. Tammy was quick to hit back on her
Speaker 1: own Instagram story, saying.
Speaker 11: This, Okay, so I'm not about to add my dirty
Speaker 11: launch on social media.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's appropriate to talk about some things.
Speaker 11: I don't want to put anyone in the negative light,
Speaker 11: especially the father of my kids, no matter, no matter what,
Speaker 11: I'm just I'm not gonna do that. But basically in
Speaker 11: response to a car thing that he's talking about, that's
Speaker 11: not the full story.
Speaker 1: She prefers that she didn't want to speak badly about
Speaker 1: the father of her kids. She did provide a bit
Speaker 1: of a burn at the end. She said, if I'm
Speaker 1: letting someone use my range Rover, they shouldn't expect me
Speaker 1: to pay their speeding fines and registration. Simple as that.
Speaker 1: And she has a very good point. It's quite ironic
Speaker 1: at the start of that Instagram story that Tammy said
Speaker 1: she wasn't about airing people's dirty laundry, but.
Speaker 4: Then added that little dig in at the end. It
Speaker 4: seemed to be.
Speaker 1: More at play here than just the range Rover, though,
Speaker 1: because the main issue seemed to be that Tammy wanted
Speaker 1: to move to la but Reese didn't want to. According
Speaker 1: to Reese, Tammy promised the car to him to convince
Speaker 1: him to move with her. However, when things didn't work
Speaker 1: out with Tiger, Tammy apparently changed her mind about moving
Speaker 1: and subsequently about Reese having the car. It's really confusing
Speaker 1: to look back at this now, as Reese ended up
Speaker 1: trying to move to the US with London and his
Speaker 1: son Stone, and he now lives in Balley, away from
Speaker 1: all three of his children now. After a seven month
Speaker 1: hiatus from Ujue, Reese returned to the platform at the
Speaker 1: end of August twenty nineteen to share about how his
Speaker 1: breakup with Tammy had affected him, and he was very
Speaker 1: candid in this chat. He admitted that it had been
Speaker 1: the hardest period of his life. In the now deleted YouTube,
Speaker 1: he said, the past year has been super fucked up.
Speaker 1: It's been a hard time I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 1: I've had a couple of bouts of depression and anxiety.
Speaker 1: I've actually been put on mild antidepressants just to help
Speaker 1: me get back everything. I've struggled to eat for a
Speaker 1: long time. A lot of you guys would have seen
Speaker 1: how much weight I lost because of the depression I
Speaker 1: was going through. Reese explained over the last year he
Speaker 1: had to move three times so he could be near
Speaker 1: his kids.
Speaker 4: He said he'd just.
Speaker 1: Gotten back from la and revealed there had been a
Speaker 1: change of plants. He said he was still waiting on
Speaker 1: a few things with the kids, but things never panned
Speaker 1: out over there. He then said, I ended up coming
Speaker 1: back to Australia because I need to be well. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to be quite involved with the kids now. At
Speaker 1: the time, Tammy was in the US with MTV Australia
Speaker 1: working at the Video Music Awards. Now, if we fast
Speaker 1: forward to February twenty twenty, it appears like a lot
Speaker 1: had been going on behind the scenes because Tammy and
Speaker 1: Reese were suddenly on better terms. Reese even appeared in
Speaker 1: one of Tammy's YouTube videos when he was picking up
Speaker 1: the kids for them to come and stay with him,
Speaker 1: and in this video, Tammy said that she and Reese
Speaker 1: were now on friendly terms after years of fighting.
Speaker 11: Right now, we're going to Daddy's house. Wolf's school bag
Speaker 11: is out Reese's so I've got.
Speaker 9: To go get it.
Speaker 1: Look good. We're friends, guys. Do you love that us?
Speaker 8: Look going to be like this is awkward?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, no, they will be.
Speaker 11: I don't know, guys, We're actually friends now.
Speaker 2: Reese's so nice to me now, aren't you tell them?
Speaker 1: Tell them how nice.
Speaker 7: I've always race.
Speaker 5: I think we should do a video together about like
Speaker 5: co parenting.
Speaker 1: I take that as he are. Tammy then told the
Speaker 1: camera that Reese is just so nice to her now.
Speaker 1: She said, me and Reese weren't getting along for the
Speaker 1: longest time. We broke up so so long ago now,
Speaker 1: and it took us pretty much this long to start
Speaker 1: getting along. It is what I've always wanted, So I
Speaker 1: am really happy. One person who wasn't happy about it, though,
Speaker 1: was London, Reese's girlfriend. In an Instagram Q and A,
Speaker 1: she was asked how she felt about Tammy's vlog. Let's
Speaker 1: have a listen to what she said.
Speaker 12: Funny question. I feel it was very put on and
Speaker 12: do get me, which is fine. I don't care for
Speaker 12: the drama. It's a little ridiculous, but you know.
Speaker 1: I think it's important to put it out there that
Speaker 1: London and Reese were still very much together when she
Speaker 1: shared this Q and A yeah, she clearly wasn't happy
Speaker 1: with him at the time. She even answered a question
Speaker 1: about what triggers her and Reese's fights. I don't think
Speaker 1: she was that honest though, because she admitted that of course,
Speaker 1: like every couple, they fight, but then claim their biggest
Speaker 1: fight was over food. I think it's probably over Tammy.
Speaker 1: As expected, Tammy's fans went off at London, which then
Speaker 1: forced Reese to address the incident on his own YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: In the now deleted video, Reese apologized for his past
Speaker 1: actions following his split from Tammy. He also said it
Speaker 1: was him dragging London into the drama with his ex.
Speaker 1: He also said he was the one who dragged London
Speaker 1: into the drama with his ex and was to blame
Speaker 1: for making her feel insecure enough for her to come
Speaker 1: at Tammy on social media. He then claimed everyone was
Speaker 1: all good friends now now. As you can imagine, Rhees
Speaker 1: copped a lot of backlash over his comments, and not
Speaker 1: long after, he deleted the video alongside all the videos
Speaker 1: on his YouTube channel. Now, on the first of August
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, London revealed that Reese had popped the question
Speaker 1: to her in Port Douglas.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: The couple were staying at the Sheraton Grand Mirage Resort
Speaker 1: and they got engaged in their room before heading down
Speaker 1: to dinner in the ballroom. I do want to inject
Speaker 1: myself into this story here. This is where I went
Speaker 1: for my honeymoon, so you'd be very familiar with these rooms.
Speaker 1: Perhaps you stayed in the room that Breees proposed to London.
Speaker 1: Who knows now? London shared photos of the couple showing
Speaker 1: off the ring with the caption Forever and Always Baby.
Speaker 4: Reheese shared the.
Speaker 1: News, but only on his Instagram story, not on his
Speaker 1: main grid, and he only just linked back to London's post.
Speaker 1: He didn't make a post of his own. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's because he was having a bit of a
Speaker 1: social media blackout, though he probably thought it looked a
Speaker 1: bit hypocritical him deleting everything off YouTube and then suddenly
Speaker 1: posting about his private life. Now, the ring in question
Speaker 1: was a Tiffany and co cushion cut halo yellow diamond
Speaker 1: on a platinum band. The ring was estimated to be
Speaker 1: worth a whopping fifteen to twenty six thousand dollars. Why
Speaker 1: do I feel like, now in twenty twenty five, that's
Speaker 1: actually not that much?
Speaker 4: Are you serious? That is a huge amount of money
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 1: He's an enormous amount of money. But I feel like
Speaker 1: we are seeing the most ridiculous rings shared on social media.
Speaker 1: That being said, most of them now are lab diamonds. Well,
Speaker 1: I was going to say that, I think we're only
Speaker 1: seeing bigger rings at the moment because people are buying
Speaker 1: lab diamonds. I mean, Brittany Hockley revealed that hers was
Speaker 1: a lab diamond. It's actually a really ethical way, and
Speaker 1: the ring looks exactly the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've been wondering why so many influencers have Kim Kardashian
Speaker 1: sized engagement rings now, because you're like, surely they're not
Speaker 1: making that much money.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 1: A month later, on the second of September twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: recent London announced they were expecting their first child together.
Speaker 1: London shared a photo of her and Reese kissing with
Speaker 1: the caption being busy growing a baby in my belly
Speaker 1: with this one, what about you? Reese ended up sharing
Speaker 1: an update of his own, this time he wrote baby
Speaker 1: Mama Alert. Having a baby with the love of my
Speaker 1: life and my best friend. It does put this proposal
Speaker 1: into perspective a little bit and why there was perhaps
Speaker 1: a rush for him to pop the question now. London
Speaker 1: ended up surprising her followers by revealing she would be
Speaker 1: sharing her pregnancy journey on Only Fans Now. At the time,
Speaker 1: I feel like we had only just started hearing about
Speaker 1: OnlyFans and it still had the connotation though, of being
Speaker 1: sexually explicit content that was being shared. So this seemed
Speaker 1: kind of wrong to physic at pregnancy journey on there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it did shock a lot of people.
Speaker 1: London explained more in her announcement, saying, We've also been
Speaker 1: harassed to the point where we've had to seek legal
Speaker 1: action a few times due to harassment, bulling and stalking
Speaker 1: over the last year. With that being said, I've decided
Speaker 1: I'm going to share my pregnancy journey on another platform
Speaker 1: where I feel safe and positive. Oh, come on, it's
Speaker 1: not the fact that you're making a lot of money
Speaker 1: off this subscription model that that's why you want to
Speaker 1: share it on there. If you were being harassed and
Speaker 1: you felt like your safety was in question, would you
Speaker 1: perhaps just not share your pregnancy journey? I know. I'd
Speaker 1: love to know how many people actually signed up to this.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming the Daily Mail did, and a lot of
Speaker 1: other publications. It also sounds super critical because Reese was
Speaker 1: sounding off about Tammy basically exploiting their children and sharing
Speaker 1: them across social media, but then he's happy to do
Speaker 1: the same with this unborn child for money, I know.
Speaker 1: Hours after this pregnancy announcement went live, Tammy posted a
Speaker 1: very telling update on her own Instagram story. In the video,
Speaker 1: she mimed to the song Pressure in My Palms by
Speaker 1: Amney Now. The lyrics said, I hate a bit who
Speaker 1: thinks a baby finner keep a n I hate you
Speaker 1: ho Okay, I mean the message is pretty loud and
Speaker 1: clear there. She's not happy about this. It was very
Speaker 1: awkward for London because at the time of her pregnancy announcement,
Speaker 1: super Sluice uncovered screenshots of her liking and commenting on
Speaker 1: old family photos of Reese and Tammy when they were together.
Speaker 1: So she wrote such a babe, oh my god, and
Speaker 1: obsessed with the little Family. It was also revealed that
Speaker 1: London had been liking Reese's photos since March twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4: That is so awkward.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine how embarrassed you would be when this
Speaker 1: news came out? Oh this is just a rookie era,
Speaker 1: isn't it. If you are going to date someone whose
Speaker 1: family you've been a fan of, go and do a
Speaker 1: bit of a clean out, make sure that you haven't
Speaker 1: liked any of the posts and delete any comments. And
Speaker 1: it adds a little bit of validity to the rumors
Speaker 1: that she slid into Reese's DMS before Tammy and him
Speaker 1: had really broken up.
Speaker 4: Was like, gotcha, do you reckon?
Speaker 1: She also found the comments or it really was super salutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got a good point there. Maybe Tammy was the
Speaker 1: one that was searching through trying to find the dirt
Speaker 1: on London.
Speaker 11: Now.
Speaker 1: The same week London announced her pregnancy was Father's Day,
Speaker 1: and Tammy used the occasion to take a swipe at Reese.
Speaker 4: So she uploaded a.
Speaker 1: Selfie with Saskia to her Instagram story with the caption
Speaker 1: Happy Father's Day to all the single mammas and boss
Speaker 1: bitches doing it all. London was quick to fire back
Speaker 1: using her own Instagram story. So she shared a picture
Speaker 1: of Reese with Wolf and Saskia with the caption best Daddy. Well,
Speaker 1: I was all getting very petty, isn't it? And that
Speaker 1: is where we're going to leave things today. Next time,
Speaker 1: we are diving into the era of Matt Pool, or
Speaker 1: as Tammy fans like to call him, Matt the First.
Speaker 1: This episode has everything an engagement, a baby, a breakup,
Speaker 1: and even a reality TV show film crew. Thank you
Speaker 1: again for listening to Outspoken. This podcast was recorded on
Speaker 1: the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains.
Speaker 1: We pay respect to elders past and present.