WEBVTT - Tammy Hembrow and Reece Hawkin's 'Bitter War' 

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy Hembro is Australia's most talked about influencer. At nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>she made it big on social media when she shared

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<v Speaker 1>her fitness journey while pregnant.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my first blog again, so like it might

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's going to be boring or what,

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<v Speaker 1>but hope you guys enjoy it. Tammy's life is far

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<v Speaker 1>from boring. The fitness influencer and her family are Australia's

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<v Speaker 1>answer to the Kardashians. In fact, she's even been involved

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<v Speaker 1>in a few Kardashian scandals herself.

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<v Speaker 3>A model explains why she had to leave Kylie Janno's

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles birthday party in a stretcher.

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<v Speaker 1>By sharing her life online, Tammy has attracted over twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million followers and built an empire worth fifty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>What has really kept her followers glued are her romantic relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the last ten years, the internet has borne witness

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<v Speaker 1>to three engagements, three children, one epic wedding and now

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<v Speaker 1>a divorce. We are journalist Sophie and Kate Talbert and

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<v Speaker 1>in this special Outspoken series, we explored the real story

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<v Speaker 1>behind the rise of Tammy hambro When we last left you,

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy and Reese had just broken up after weeks of speculation.

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<v Speaker 1>On the eighth of June twenty eighteen, Tammy confirmed the

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<v Speaker 1>news to fans in a YouTube video aptly titled life Update,

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<v Speaker 1>we broke Up.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's throw to some of what she said.

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<v Speaker 5>So a couple months ago, or somewhere between one and

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<v Speaker 5>two months ago, I decided to end things with Greece.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't cheat on me.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't cheat on him. It wasn't like that at all.

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<v Speaker 5>There's just I don't honestly, I'm not going to go

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<v Speaker 5>into the ins and outs of our relationship. Obviously, we're human.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not perfect.

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<v Speaker 5>We have ups and downs like everybody else, just like you.

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy went on to reveal that she was unsure whether

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<v Speaker 1>she should make the video or not, but she had

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<v Speaker 1>received so many questions about her relationship status with Reese

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<v Speaker 1>that she didn't want people to think that she was

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<v Speaker 1>ignoring them, and you could tell how difficult it was

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<v Speaker 1>for Tammy to actually make the video. She said that

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<v Speaker 1>she and ree still loved each other very much and

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<v Speaker 1>will always be family because of the kids. She also

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<v Speaker 1>prefaced her kid's health and happiness came first.

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<v Speaker 6>She then said this, like it's a super hard situation,

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<v Speaker 6>especially when there's kids involved, Like everything's just a million

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<v Speaker 6>times harder than like a regular breakup.

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<v Speaker 5>In my opinion, I don't want people to think that

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<v Speaker 5>we just gave up or anything like most people would know.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a lot more to relationships.

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<v Speaker 5>Relationships are very complex.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because a few times during the video she

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<v Speaker 1>said that they were currently broken up, which made it

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<v Speaker 1>sound like there was some room for reconciliation. She also

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<v Speaker 1>explained that she had taken a while to speak about

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<v Speaker 1>it because they were still working.

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<v Speaker 4>On things on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>When this news broke, there were so many fans who

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<v Speaker 1>were devastated because they were absolutely invested in this relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy and Reese had really painted themselves as this hashtag

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<v Speaker 1>couple goals. They were living the life that so many

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<v Speaker 1>people wanted to live with this young family, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were incredibly glamorous. There were also a lot of disillusioned

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<v Speaker 1>fans who felt as though they had been lied to

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<v Speaker 1>and accused the couple of portraying a perfect relationship when

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<v Speaker 1>in reality it was clearly far from the truth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this was a big turning point for Tammy hembro

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<v Speaker 1>so iphy as you said a lot of people were

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<v Speaker 1>disillusioned by her content. I mean, we've got to remember

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<v Speaker 1>this was in twenty eighteen as well, so seven years

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<v Speaker 1>ago when people weren't so savvy about online relationships, and

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<v Speaker 1>also the fact that a lot of influencers just share

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<v Speaker 1>their highlight reel. In July, Re shared his own statement

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<v Speaker 1>about the breakup to his YouTube channel. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>he was holidaying in Bali with his best friends. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>a snippet of what he said.

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<v Speaker 7>So obviously, I definitely need to address a few things

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<v Speaker 7>with all of you guys. Tear Me uploaded the YouTube

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<v Speaker 7>video a little while ago about us breaking up. I

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<v Speaker 7>don't really know why she did or, you know, one

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<v Speaker 7>hundred percent, I didn't really want it to happen, And

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<v Speaker 7>you know, it's been a pretty rough couple of months

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<v Speaker 7>trying to deal with the fact, you know, like rejection.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess it is I've been rejected by someone. So

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<v Speaker 7>that's been kind of rough. It's been probably the hardest,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, two three months of my life. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure why one hundred percent why We were

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<v Speaker 7>having a few disagreements and things. But yeah, again, it

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't just it wasn't my decision. And you guys can

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<v Speaker 7>ask her as to why, because.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not gonna I'm not gonna.

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<v Speaker 7>Try and you say an opinion that might not be true.

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<v Speaker 7>I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting that he released this video a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>months after the breakup and was still claiming that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't fully know why Tami broke up with him. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was a bit of a strategy to try

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<v Speaker 1>and shift the narrative and make himself the victim because

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<v Speaker 1>he was really pulling at the heart strings by saying

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<v Speaker 1>that he was rejected and blindsided. Now, two months after

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<v Speaker 1>the breakup announcement, Tammy Hembro hit rock bottom. She made

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<v Speaker 1>headlines when she was stretchered out of Kylie Jenna's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>first birthday party after she reportedly collapsed. Unfortunately for Tammy,

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<v Speaker 1>paparazzi were waiting out the front of the venue and

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<v Speaker 1>photographed her face down on the stretcher. The incident actually

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<v Speaker 1>happened before Kylie Jenna had even arrived at the party.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when this story broke at the time that

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of speculation as to who this

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<v Speaker 1>guest was at the party because, as you mentioned, Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy was lying face down on the stretcher. So it

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<v Speaker 1>led to a big guessing game. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>this made the story even bigger when it was then

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<v Speaker 1>revealed that it was Tammy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel for Tammy in this situation. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a guessing game and you're hoping that no one knew.

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<v Speaker 4>It was you now.

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy was invited to Kylie's twenty first after striking up

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<v Speaker 1>a friendship with the Kardashians after she modeled for Chloe's

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<v Speaker 1>brand Good American, and it was actually Chloe who was

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of Tammy. So Chloe followed Tammy's fitness journey

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<v Speaker 1>and publicly stated that Tammy had influenced her own fitness journey.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in late twenty seventeen when Chloe's team reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to Tammy and asked her to model for the

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Tammy documented the whole Good American shoot as well

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<v Speaker 1>as her meeting Chloe. Let's have a listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Clean Chloe herself.

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<v Speaker 1>What I just had to shoot with her.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how amazing look for her and you go,

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<v Speaker 3>langs are anything I would pay for a wait, you guys,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>This just shows the international reach that Tammy Hembro has.

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<v Speaker 1>I think living in Australia, you forget just how many

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<v Speaker 1>followers she has all over the world.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, her connection to the Kardashians also helped her grow

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<v Speaker 1>even further.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Following the incident at Kylie Jenner's birthday party, media reported

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<v Speaker 1>that the Kardashians weren't happy with Tammy and claimed that

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Courtney Care and Chris all unfollowed her, while Kylie

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<v Speaker 1>and Chloe remained following. Kylie, Jennet nor any of the

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<v Speaker 1>Kardashians have actually ever publicly commented on the event. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, this Stretcher incident was absolutely massive, Kate.

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<v Speaker 1>It made global headlines, and Tammy ended up releasing a

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<v Speaker 1>now deleted YouTube video explaining what happened. Here's some of

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<v Speaker 1>what she said.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically what happened is I was in LA I

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<v Speaker 2>was running off pretty much thirty hours no sleep. I

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<v Speaker 2>was struggling to stay wait, even when I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>my hair and makeup done, I was literally sitting that

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<v Speaker 2>like falling asleep, like I could barely keep my eyes open.

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy went on to say she should not have been

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<v Speaker 1>drinking when she had such little sleep. Interestingly, she blamed

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<v Speaker 1>her impulsive behavior on her recent breakup with Rhys Hawkins.

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<v Speaker 2>I think because of the breakup, I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>keep myself busy and not really taking time to think

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<v Speaker 2>about how I'm actually feeling or focusing on myself kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy ended the video by calling out the trolling she'd

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<v Speaker 1>been receiving.

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<v Speaker 4>She ended up breaking down.

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<v Speaker 1>In tears when she thanked her supporters.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's take a listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Another thing I wanted to bring up is just people

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<v Speaker 2>trolling or being nasty or making up things just for

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<v Speaker 2>no good reason. I mean, I personally could never imagine

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<v Speaker 2>attacking someone or judging someone for something like this. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>guys for all the people who have sent supportive and

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<v Speaker 2>kind messages. I'm super grateful for it because I know

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of true fans.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy experienced a lot of trolling over this incident. She

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<v Speaker 1>also received an outpouring of support. Fans on Twitter came

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<v Speaker 1>out in defense of her, with one writing Tammy hembro

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<v Speaker 1>only broke up with the man she was meant to

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<v Speaker 1>marry recently. Let the woman be a drunkards bitch in

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<v Speaker 1>these Another said, Tammy hembro getting unfollowed by the Kardashians

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<v Speaker 1>for being too drunk and vomiting at their event is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely iconic. I want to be.

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<v Speaker 4>Her friend.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy recently shed more light on the incident in her book.

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<v Speaker 1>She called the moment her rock bottom and said she

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<v Speaker 1>went from media darling to public enemy. As for the night,

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<v Speaker 1>she said it was highly stressful and embarrassing, and claimed

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<v Speaker 1>that she only had one or two drinks before she collapsed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know do we actually believe that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to think she's telling the truth. She says

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<v Speaker 1>she had very little sleep. But do we think the

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<v Speaker 1>Kardashians didn't fly her over in business class? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's all a bit of an excuse. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>to remember Tammy would have only been twenty four at

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<v Speaker 1>the time she'd been flown over by the Kardashians to

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<v Speaker 1>attend this birthday party. She'd just broken up with her

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<v Speaker 1>baby daddy and fiance. Who isn't getting on the drinks

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<v Speaker 1>at an event like that. I'm sure all of the

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<v Speaker 1>drinks would have been paid for. I mean, do we

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<v Speaker 1>really blame her. I feel sorry for it be so humiliating,

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<v Speaker 1>because she said she woke up in hospital to find

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<v Speaker 1>that there were these pictures published of her being carried

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<v Speaker 1>out of the party on a stretch, and in her book,

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<v Speaker 1>she wrote, I kept telling myself there is only up

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<v Speaker 1>from here. It was a very dark time and I

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<v Speaker 1>had to shut out the trolls and the hate I

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<v Speaker 1>was getting. I understand that this would be bad for

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<v Speaker 1>her image, considering she was pushing this very clean eating,

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<v Speaker 1>healthy fitness influencer esthetic. But I think that it also

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<v Speaker 1>got her more known internationally. I'd be interested to know

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<v Speaker 1>how many extra followers she got off the back of

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<v Speaker 1>this incident.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's kind of a case of all.

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<v Speaker 1>Publicity is good publicity, particularly when you're juxtaposition next to

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<v Speaker 1>the Kardashians. Now, two months after the incident, Reese Hawkins

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<v Speaker 1>announced he had a new girlfriend, American model London Gowan.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's rumored that London was sliding into Reese's dms

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<v Speaker 1>before Tammy had even posted their break up video. After

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<v Speaker 1>Reese broke the news, Tammy ended up sharing a cryptic

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<v Speaker 1>quote on Instagram. We know she loves a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a quote, which read breakup's hurt, but losing someone who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't respect and appreciate you is actually again not all loss.

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<v Speaker 1>She did end up leading the post, though shortly afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>She followed it up though with an Instagram story saying, man,

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<v Speaker 1>if people knew the truth about some people biting my

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<v Speaker 1>tongue so hard, It's going to bleed when I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>London ended up going back at Tammy and posted a

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<v Speaker 1>selfie with the caption hey hate you you I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like your girlfriend. Those, of course, are iconic Avril Lavigne lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>That post was also swiftly deleted. Tammy ended up ignoring

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<v Speaker 1>London's potshot, and she took the higher road instead. She

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<v Speaker 1>posted a selfie with her kids, Wolf and Saskia with

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<v Speaker 1>the caption I wanted to spend each moment of the

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<v Speaker 1>day with you now. Following the cryptic post, Tammy gave

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<v Speaker 1>an interview to a magazine and said, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of what you think your life is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, and then circumstances change and people changed too.

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<v Speaker 1>We were young when we got together and still figuring

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<v Speaker 1>things out.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when people.

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<v Speaker 1>Are weighing in on your personal life or you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to understand things yourself. It can feel like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure. I share so much of my life, so

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that my followers online wanted to know what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on. People were wanting to know what happened

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<v Speaker 1>before we even knew what was going on. As for

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy's love life, it was rumored that she was in

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<v Speaker 1>and on again off again romance with Canadian rapper Juquoy

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<v Speaker 1>Palmer around the time of this hard launch. Now things

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<v Speaker 1>started to get nasty around this point. A month later,

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<v Speaker 1>Reese publicly criticized Tammy's approach to sharing their children online.

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<v Speaker 1>During Instagram Q and A. Someone wrote in saying, where

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<v Speaker 1>are your kids, mate? Why out there wasting time instead

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<v Speaker 1>of being a dad? Reese responded saying, I've seen my

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<v Speaker 1>kids every day last week. I just don't feel the

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<v Speaker 1>need to post them all the time. They're getting older

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<v Speaker 1>and have their own personalities, and they can choose if

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<v Speaker 1>they want to be posted or not when they're a

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<v Speaker 1>bit older. I just let them be kids and try

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoy my time with them on the days I

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<v Speaker 1>get to spend time and see them.

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<v Speaker 4>For now. Now, This wasn't the first time.

0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Reese revealed he didn't like his children being online. Shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after the split, at a pr event, Rees said within

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<v Speaker 1>the next twelve months, I'll take my children off all

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<v Speaker 1>of my social media just because they're starting to get

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<v Speaker 1>their own personalities and things like that. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to force them into anything they don't want to do,

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<v Speaker 1>or make them take a picture when they don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>They're their own people. They're not babies anymore, people recognize them.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be really tough to navigate. What do you do

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<v Speaker 1>when two parents have conflicting views about how they want

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<v Speaker 1>to share their children online, particularly when they're not together anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>and particularly when one of the parents has seventeen million followers.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like it was just a way for Reese

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<v Speaker 1>to have a bit of a dig at Tammy, though,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was complicit in sharing them when they were together.

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<v Speaker 1>Things really went full circle in January twenty nineteen, when

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<v Speaker 1>rumors emerged the Tammy was dating Kylie Jenner's ex boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger after being spotted kissing him at the Rolling Loud

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<v Speaker 1>festival in Sydney. She was also seen following the rapper

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<v Speaker 1>around Australia during his tour and hanging out backstage. Now,

0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.960
<v Speaker 1>in terms of a timeline. Kylie Jenner dated Tiger two

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<v Speaker 1>years earlier, so there wasn't a close crossover, but it

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<v Speaker 1>clearly would have hissed Kylie off considering they were friends

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<v Speaker 1>well close enough, and it also would have backed up

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<v Speaker 1>these rumors that the Kardashians weren't.

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<v Speaker 4>Happy with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger is someone who doesn't mind dating within the same circles.

0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.959
<v Speaker 1>His ex girlfriend, Black China famously dated Rob Kardashian and

0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:18.600
<v Speaker 1>they actually had a baby together.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy and Tiger's relationship is believed to have lasted around

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<v Speaker 1>ten months, with Tiger even writing a song about Tammy.

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<v Speaker 1>The song is called wet Wies, very romantic and as

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<v Speaker 1>you can probably tell by the title, it's an X

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<v Speaker 1>rated song about a sexual encounter with a woman called Tammy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's play a snippet so we don't have to read

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<v Speaker 1>out the lyrics.

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<v Speaker 9>Ibing that as you about make it go, don't stop,

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<v Speaker 9>let me up outside of in and out blacking lot

0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.480
<v Speaker 9>is topped off top bound cup like the capers. Don't

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<v Speaker 9>say a clack and that came on the that name

0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.600
<v Speaker 9>the damn damp he danced, he dance you nass you

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<v Speaker 9>no pan, no pan get a wet wave that'll come

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<v Speaker 9>a handy and the pussy here, bitch, you just have

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<v Speaker 9>a grammy.

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<v Speaker 1>When you hear the someone's written a song about you,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably get all excited thinking it's this great love song,

0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and then to hear those lyrics, I personally wouldn't be

0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.840
<v Speaker 1>thrilled about it. It is kind of iconic in a way, though, Like,

0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's known for her ass, I mean, he's

0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.480
<v Speaker 1>meant to the lyrics now. Tammy later confirmed on her

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Hanging with the Hembros that the song was about her,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said she had approved the lyrics, but admitted

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<v Speaker 1>that they had been blown out of proportion. She also

0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.640
<v Speaker 1>went on to claim that she and Tiger were just friends,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that people are ridiculous and that she's literally just

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<v Speaker 1>friends with him. She said, I've been to a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of his shows and I'm just friends with people that

0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.240
<v Speaker 1>he's friends with. So again, take a shot every time

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<v Speaker 1>she said friends. How can she say that though, when

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<v Speaker 1>she confirmed that the song lyrics were about her and

0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that she had approved them, like, it doesn't really make

0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.080
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of sense, But she's saying that it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a made up scenario and it's all a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a laugh. Well, it appears to Tammy's relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger hit a nerve with Reese Hawkins. A month after

0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the relationship rumors surfaced, Reese called Tammy out on his

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram story. His main gripe was to do with Tammy

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<v Speaker 1>repossessing his range Rover. Let's have a listen to what

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<v Speaker 1>he said.

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<v Speaker 8>Basically, nothing has gone to plan or ended well, and

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<v Speaker 8>I just wanted to let you guys know that I

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<v Speaker 8>basically I've tried really really hard to it's my separation

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<v Speaker 8>from my ex and everything like that, to get it

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<v Speaker 8>settled and be amicable.

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<v Speaker 10>And so, yeah, sadly I lost my range Rover yesterday.

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<v Speaker 10>They got repossessed and she decided that I didn't need

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<v Speaker 10>that either. So I don't have a car to even

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<v Speaker 10>pick my kids up anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, why should.

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<v Speaker 1>Tammy be paying for this guy's range Rover. Take it

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<v Speaker 1>off the guy. He can get around in something else.

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<v Speaker 4>No sympathy there from you.

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<v Speaker 7>So no.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually remember this story coming out because it was

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<v Speaker 1>around the time that we thought about launching a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh my god, there's just so many

0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.399
<v Speaker 1>great stories like this out there because This was a

0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.720
<v Speaker 1>massive story at the time. Well Reese went on to

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<v Speaker 1>claim that Tammy was planning to sue him, and he

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<v Speaker 1>also accused her of quote following musicians around America. Obviously

0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.720
<v Speaker 1>that's a dig about Tiger. Reese later told The Daily

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<v Speaker 1>Mail as well that he was in a bitter war

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<v Speaker 1>with Tammy and said at the moment there was no

0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.159
<v Speaker 1>contact now. Tammy was quick to hit back on her

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<v Speaker 1>own Instagram story, saying.

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<v Speaker 11>This, Okay, so I'm not about to add my dirty

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<v Speaker 11>launch on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's appropriate to talk about some things.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't want to put anyone in the negative light,

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<v Speaker 11>especially the father of my kids, no matter, no matter what,

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<v Speaker 11>I'm just I'm not gonna do that. But basically in

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<v Speaker 11>response to a car thing that he's talking about, that's

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<v Speaker 11>not the full story.

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<v Speaker 1>She prefers that she didn't want to speak badly about

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<v Speaker 1>the father of her kids. She did provide a bit

0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.399
<v Speaker 1>of a burn at the end. She said, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>letting someone use my range Rover, they shouldn't expect me

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<v Speaker 1>to pay their speeding fines and registration. Simple as that.

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<v Speaker 1>And she has a very good point. It's quite ironic

0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.160
<v Speaker 1>at the start of that Instagram story that Tammy said

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<v Speaker 1>she wasn't about airing people's dirty laundry, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Then added that little dig in at the end. It

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<v Speaker 4>seemed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>More at play here than just the range Rover, though,

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<v Speaker 1>because the main issue seemed to be that Tammy wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to move to la but Reese didn't want to. According

0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.640
<v Speaker 1>to Reese, Tammy promised the car to him to convince

0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.640
<v Speaker 1>him to move with her. However, when things didn't work

0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.080
<v Speaker 1>out with Tiger, Tammy apparently changed her mind about moving

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<v Speaker 1>and subsequently about Reese having the car. It's really confusing

0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.199
<v Speaker 1>to look back at this now, as Reese ended up

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<v Speaker 1>trying to move to the US with London and his

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<v Speaker 1>son Stone, and he now lives in Balley, away from

0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.960
<v Speaker 1>all three of his children now. After a seven month

0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.240
<v Speaker 1>hiatus from Ujue, Reese returned to the platform at the

0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.159
<v Speaker 1>end of August twenty nineteen to share about how his

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:08.440
<v Speaker 1>breakup with Tammy had affected him, and he was very

0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.320
<v Speaker 1>candid in this chat. He admitted that it had been

0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:15.359
<v Speaker 1>the hardest period of his life. In the now deleted YouTube,

0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.160
<v Speaker 1>he said, the past year has been super fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a hard time I'm not going to lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a couple of bouts of depression and anxiety.

0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I've actually been put on mild antidepressants just to help

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<v Speaker 1>me get back everything. I've struggled to eat for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. A lot of you guys would have seen

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<v Speaker 1>how much weight I lost because of the depression I

0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.040
<v Speaker 1>was going through. Reese explained over the last year he

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<v Speaker 1>had to move three times so he could be near

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<v Speaker 1>his kids.

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<v Speaker 4>He said he'd just.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotten back from la and revealed there had been a

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<v Speaker 1>change of plants. He said he was still waiting on

0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.040
<v Speaker 1>a few things with the kids, but things never panned

0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:50.600
<v Speaker 1>out over there. He then said, I ended up coming

0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.800
<v Speaker 1>back to Australia because I need to be well. I'm

0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.679
<v Speaker 1>trying to be quite involved with the kids now. At

0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the time, Tammy was in the US with MTV Australia

0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:01.480
<v Speaker 1>working at the Video Music Awards. Now, if we fast

0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:05.360
<v Speaker 1>forward to February twenty twenty, it appears like a lot

0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.240
<v Speaker 1>had been going on behind the scenes because Tammy and

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.159
<v Speaker 1>Reese were suddenly on better terms. Reese even appeared in

0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.439
<v Speaker 1>one of Tammy's YouTube videos when he was picking up

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the kids for them to come and stay with him,

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.120
<v Speaker 1>and in this video, Tammy said that she and Reese

0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.080
<v Speaker 1>were now on friendly terms after years of fighting.

0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:28.800
<v Speaker 11>Right now, we're going to Daddy's house. Wolf's school bag

0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:31.120
<v Speaker 11>is out Reese's so I've got.

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<v Speaker 9>To go get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Look good. We're friends, guys. Do you love that us?

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<v Speaker 8>Look going to be like this is awkward?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, no, they will be.

0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:47.480
<v Speaker 11>I don't know, guys, We're actually friends now.

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<v Speaker 2>Reese's so nice to me now, aren't you tell them?

0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Tell them how nice.

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<v Speaker 7>I've always race.

0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.040
<v Speaker 5>I think we should do a video together about like

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<v Speaker 5>co parenting.

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<v Speaker 1>I take that as he are. Tammy then told the

0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.359
<v Speaker 1>camera that Reese is just so nice to her now.

0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.399
<v Speaker 1>She said, me and Reese weren't getting along for the

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<v Speaker 1>longest time. We broke up so so long ago now,

0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.359
<v Speaker 1>and it took us pretty much this long to start

0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.840
<v Speaker 1>getting along. It is what I've always wanted, So I

0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:20.280
<v Speaker 1>am really happy. One person who wasn't happy about it, though,

0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.760
<v Speaker 1>was London, Reese's girlfriend. In an Instagram Q and A,

0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.200
<v Speaker 1>she was asked how she felt about Tammy's vlog. Let's

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:28.400
<v Speaker 1>have a listen to what she said.

0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.560
<v Speaker 12>Funny question. I feel it was very put on and

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<v Speaker 12>do get me, which is fine. I don't care for

0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:41.640
<v Speaker 12>the drama. It's a little ridiculous, but you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to put it out there that

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.199
<v Speaker 1>London and Reese were still very much together when she

0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:50.879
<v Speaker 1>shared this Q and A yeah, she clearly wasn't happy

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>with him at the time. She even answered a question

0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:55.400
<v Speaker 1>about what triggers her and Reese's fights. I don't think

0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 1>she was that honest though, because she admitted that of course,

0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.560
<v Speaker 1>like every couple, they fight, but then claim their biggest

0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.159
<v Speaker 1>fight was over food. I think it's probably over Tammy.

0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.080
<v Speaker 1>As expected, Tammy's fans went off at London, which then

0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 1>forced Reese to address the incident on his own YouTube channel.

0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:14.600
<v Speaker 1>In the now deleted video, Reese apologized for his past

0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:17.919
<v Speaker 1>actions following his split from Tammy. He also said it

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:21.000
<v Speaker 1>was him dragging London into the drama with his ex.

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.719
<v Speaker 1>He also said he was the one who dragged London

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 1>into the drama with his ex and was to blame

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.800
<v Speaker 1>for making her feel insecure enough for her to come

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<v Speaker 1>at Tammy on social media. He then claimed everyone was

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<v Speaker 1>all good friends now now. As you can imagine, Rhees

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<v Speaker 1>copped a lot of backlash over his comments, and not

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<v Speaker 1>long after, he deleted the video alongside all the videos

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<v Speaker 1>on his YouTube channel. Now, on the first of August

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, London revealed that Reese had popped the question

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<v Speaker 1>to her in Port Douglas.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The couple were staying at the Sheraton Grand Mirage Resort

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<v Speaker 1>and they got engaged in their room before heading down

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<v Speaker 1>to dinner in the ballroom. I do want to inject

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<v Speaker 1>myself into this story here. This is where I went

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<v Speaker 1>for my honeymoon, so you'd be very familiar with these rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps you stayed in the room that Breees proposed to London.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows now? London shared photos of the couple showing

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<v Speaker 1>off the ring with the caption Forever and Always Baby.

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<v Speaker 4>Reheese shared the.

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<v Speaker 1>News, but only on his Instagram story, not on his

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<v Speaker 1>main grid, and he only just linked back to London's post.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't make a post of his own. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's because he was having a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>social media blackout, though he probably thought it looked a

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<v Speaker 1>bit hypocritical him deleting everything off YouTube and then suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>posting about his private life. Now, the ring in question

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<v Speaker 1>was a Tiffany and co cushion cut halo yellow diamond

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<v Speaker 1>on a platinum band. The ring was estimated to be

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<v Speaker 1>worth a whopping fifteen to twenty six thousand dollars. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do I feel like, now in twenty twenty five, that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually not that much?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you serious? That is a huge amount of money

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<v Speaker 4>on it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an enormous amount of money. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we are seeing the most ridiculous rings shared on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, most of them now are lab diamonds. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say that, I think we're only

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<v Speaker 1>seeing bigger rings at the moment because people are buying

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<v Speaker 1>lab diamonds. I mean, Brittany Hockley revealed that hers was

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<v Speaker 1>a lab diamond. It's actually a really ethical way, and

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<v Speaker 1>the ring looks exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been wondering why so many influencers have Kim Kardashian

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<v Speaker 1>sized engagement rings now, because you're like, surely they're not

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<v Speaker 1>making that much money.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>A month later, on the second of September twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>recent London announced they were expecting their first child together.

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<v Speaker 1>London shared a photo of her and Reese kissing with

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<v Speaker 1>the caption being busy growing a baby in my belly

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<v Speaker 1>with this one, what about you? Reese ended up sharing

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<v Speaker 1>an update of his own, this time he wrote baby

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Alert. Having a baby with the love of my

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<v Speaker 1>life and my best friend. It does put this proposal

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<v Speaker 1>into perspective a little bit and why there was perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>a rush for him to pop the question now. London

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<v Speaker 1>ended up surprising her followers by revealing she would be

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<v Speaker 1>sharing her pregnancy journey on Only Fans Now. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we had only just started hearing about

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<v Speaker 1>OnlyFans and it still had the connotation though, of being

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<v Speaker 1>sexually explicit content that was being shared. So this seemed

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wrong to physic at pregnancy journey on there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it did shock a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>London explained more in her announcement, saying, We've also been

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<v Speaker 1>harassed to the point where we've had to seek legal

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<v Speaker 1>action a few times due to harassment, bulling and stalking

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<v Speaker 1>over the last year. With that being said, I've decided

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to share my pregnancy journey on another platform

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<v Speaker 1>where I feel safe and positive. Oh, come on, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the fact that you're making a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>off this subscription model that that's why you want to

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<v Speaker 1>share it on there. If you were being harassed and

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<v Speaker 1>you felt like your safety was in question, would you

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps just not share your pregnancy journey? I know. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to know how many people actually signed up to this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming the Daily Mail did, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other publications. It also sounds super critical because Reese was

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<v Speaker 1>sounding off about Tammy basically exploiting their children and sharing

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<v Speaker 1>them across social media, but then he's happy to do

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<v Speaker 1>the same with this unborn child for money, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Hours after this pregnancy announcement went live, Tammy posted a

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<v Speaker 1>very telling update on her own Instagram story. In the video,

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<v Speaker 1>she mimed to the song Pressure in My Palms by

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<v Speaker 1>Amney Now. The lyrics said, I hate a bit who

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<v Speaker 1>thinks a baby finner keep a n I hate you

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<v Speaker 1>ho Okay, I mean the message is pretty loud and

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<v Speaker 1>clear there. She's not happy about this. It was very

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<v Speaker 1>awkward for London because at the time of her pregnancy announcement,

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<v Speaker 1>super Sluice uncovered screenshots of her liking and commenting on

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<v Speaker 1>old family photos of Reese and Tammy when they were together.

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<v Speaker 1>So she wrote such a babe, oh my god, and

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with the little Family. It was also revealed that

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<v Speaker 1>London had been liking Reese's photos since March twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>That is so awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine how embarrassed you would be when this

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<v Speaker 1>news came out? Oh this is just a rookie era,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. If you are going to date someone whose

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<v Speaker 1>family you've been a fan of, go and do a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a clean out, make sure that you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>liked any of the posts and delete any comments. And

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<v Speaker 1>it adds a little bit of validity to the rumors

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<v Speaker 1>that she slid into Reese's DMS before Tammy and him

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<v Speaker 1>had really broken up.

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<v Speaker 4>Was like, gotcha, do you reckon?

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<v Speaker 1>She also found the comments or it really was super salutes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a good point there. Maybe Tammy was the

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<v Speaker 1>one that was searching through trying to find the dirt

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<v Speaker 1>on London.

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<v Speaker 11>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The same week London announced her pregnancy was Father's Day,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tammy used the occasion to take a swipe at Reese.

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<v Speaker 4>So she uploaded a.

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<v Speaker 1>Selfie with Saskia to her Instagram story with the caption

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Father's Day to all the single mammas and boss

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<v Speaker 1>bitches doing it all. London was quick to fire back

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<v Speaker 1>using her own Instagram story. So she shared a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of Reese with Wolf and Saskia with the caption best Daddy. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was all getting very petty, isn't it? And that

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<v Speaker 1>is where we're going to leave things today. Next time,

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<v Speaker 1>we are diving into the era of Matt Pool, or

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<v Speaker 1>as Tammy fans like to call him, Matt the First.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode has everything an engagement, a baby, a breakup,

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<v Speaker 1>and even a reality TV show film crew. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>again for listening to Outspoken. This podcast was recorded on

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<v Speaker 1>the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains.

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<v Speaker 1>We pay respect to elders past and present.