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Speaker 2: Morning Katie, Good morning to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now, Paul, why has this alert been issued.

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Speaker 2: Purely as a precautory measure run able currently to guarantee

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Speaker 2: As we said, it's an emergency supply that is used

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Speaker 1: So I guess that that concern is that it could

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Speaker 2: Us crook, that's right, and people are doing it pretty

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Speaker 1: Oh goodness, Paul, can you imagine we were already dealing

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Speaker 2: I think most people have had an attack of gastro

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Speaker 1: In Parliament yesterday the Opposition leader claim that health officials

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Speaker 1: measure at this point, and Paul, hopefully we're back on

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Speaker 1: track and able to drink our water as normal by

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Speaker 1: the end of the week.

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Speaker 2: That's our plan A and look, we will update as

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Speaker 2: soon as we know more. Of course, we're in regular

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Speaker 2: contact with our colleagues at Power and Water, and as

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Speaker 2: we did yesterday acting very quickly, we will also act

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Speaker 2: very quickly and.

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Speaker 1: When we get the all clear well, Paul Burger's Chief

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Speaker 1: Health Officer for the Northern Territory, really appreciate your time

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Speaker 1: this morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, my pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much,