1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: Down to the judges. No matter answer the pub test. 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Releasing the footage of that grandmother being tasered, does that 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: pass the pub test? 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 6 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 4: Her name is Claire, she's ninety five years old. You've 7 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 4: probably heard the story by now. She has dementia. She 8 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 4: was tasered by New South Wales police. She was having 9 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 4: presumably some kind of episode. She was using a walking 10 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 4: frame and she took a serrated stick steak knife from 11 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 4: the kitchen into a small treatment room. The police asked 12 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 4: her to drop the knife and then a senior constable 13 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 4: used a taser. She fell and struck her head on 14 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 4: the floor and she's now receiving end of life care 15 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 4: in Komba Hospital. 16 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: The Greens are saying the footage should be released on 17 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: Robert Evardi's News over the weekend. 18 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 3: Yesterday, Police Commissioner Karen Webb said this. 19 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 4: So it's not routine and we don't intend to release it. 20 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: The day before, her assistant commissioner said this. 21 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 5: It is not in the public interest to be releasing that. 22 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: And while police often have good reason to withhole video 23 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: to preserve the independence of witness accounts, they do release 24 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: it sometimes if it's in there interests. 25 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 4: Should we see that footage? Releasing the footage of Claire, 26 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: does it pass the pub test? 27 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 5: No, definitely, not for the public to see it. The 28 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 5: family dignity is that the fair lyell oft in private, 29 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 5: that's their team. But I think for the public to 30 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 5: actually do it. 31 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 6: No, I don't think they should release it. The mental 32 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 6: culture I have is disturbing enough, and I don't think 33 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 6: that the police are going to be able to sweep this. 34 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 7: Under the carpet. 35 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 6: I it's too big for that. And look, I wouldn't 36 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 6: want to see a whole lot of good policemen out 37 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 6: there being judged on the actings of one officer. 38 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they should release that video, even if 39 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 8: it's not in the public because you know, that's incriminating evidence. 40 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 8: So they have a charge called up perverting the course 41 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 8: of justice if they don't release us. 42 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: I don't agree with it. Nursing homes get offered all 43 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: this training, and I know of my own personal experience 44 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: where my mother in law is they're not taking the 45 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: training that they're being offered for free by Dementia Australia. 46 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 6: So no, I don't agree with putistic. 47 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 7: I think they should absolutely not be released. It's not 48 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 7: in the public interest. It can be reviewed by a 49 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 7: small power of people to determine if they could have 50 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 7: been a better outcome, but once that potage is released, 51 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 7: the family the friends will never be able to get 52 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 7: a vision out of their eyes. All would do is 53 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 7: satisfy the Laurism and it's really not helpful for anyone 54 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 7: in the public to be able to. 55 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 6: See A comment on that, It's very true. 56 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: I tend to agree. I don't want to see it, 57 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: but I would like it reviewed by other police and 58 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 4: look for training purposely how not to do it. 59 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for all your calls on that.