1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It is Thursday, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: the nineteenth of August. Today on the podcast we have 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Sydney lawyer Lala Podeli. Lala has family stuck in Kabul 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: at the moment and has extreme fears for her auntie, 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: who is a doctor specializing in women's health. Her auntie 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: is now in hiding and Lala is doing a lot 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: of work in mobilizing and stabilizing Sydney's Afghan community. We 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: had a chat to Lala yesterday about how her family 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: is going, what she sees as the future for Afghanistan 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: and what here in Australia we and our government can 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: be doing. Lala, thanks for joining us today. 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: How are you going, Hi, Sam, It's been a tough 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: time I think for most Avghanes within Sydney. We're hanging 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: in with a bit of hope to see what happens. 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: But it's been a pretty hard week I think, to 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 2: see what's happened in Afghanistan and the people. 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: There in a week like this, does the Sydney Afghan 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: community come together and support each other and what does 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: that look like? Seeing as though we've got COVID restrictions here. 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: How have you been supporting each other. 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: I think there's been a lot of groups that are 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: formed with the intention of trying to get some proactive 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: I guess, some action or proactive steps taken. 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: By the Australian government. 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: So in a way, we've all been kind of brainstorming 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: and thinking of ways in which the government can assist 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: Afghans back home. It's been really nice to speak to 28 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: other people and people are quite emotional, and I think 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: just to understand that it's a common feeling and you're 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: not going through this alone because I think, like you said, 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: where you can't see people, it can be quite mentally 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: draining and it can affect your mental health quite a bit. 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: So it's been nice to have other people around you. 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of zoom calls, different WhatsApp groups, 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: people writing articles and asking for thoughts and yeah, it's 36 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: been a good time in that regard. 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: And take me through your journey your life. When did 38 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: you get to Australia from Afghanistan. 39 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: I was born in Kabul. 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: When I was about seven months old, my parents, my 41 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: mum moved to Pakistan due to political reasons. My parents 42 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: were part of a smaller group of kind of maoist 43 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: communist ideology. My mom moved mainly because I think that 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: a lot of members in their group were being persecuted 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: at the time. Soon after, my dad moved to Pakistan 46 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 2: with us, and I think when I was about one, 47 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: he was actually killed in Pakistan. So we then lived 48 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: in Pakistan and we went back and forth a little bit, 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: but mainly lived in Pakistan. 50 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: My mom had a job there at a hospital, and 51 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: then in nineteen. 52 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: Ninety five, when I was five, my mom's uncle sponsored 53 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: us to come to Australia and we got accepted, so 54 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: we came here, and I guess ever since then, I've 55 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: been I've clearly been raised here, educated here, and I've 56 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: gone to Afghanistan back maybe three or four times now. 57 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: And are you talking to anybody in Afghanistan this week? 58 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I've got family there and I've been speaking to 59 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: I've got an aunty and two uncles, like the most 60 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: immediate family there, and just speaking to them just to 61 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: see that they're okay. They're okay at the moment. But 62 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: my uncle was telling me today that, you know, his 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: daughters haven't been slip. I think he's got two daughters 64 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: who are in at university level and it's just such 65 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: an unknown for their future and everything they've worked for, 66 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: just so many unknowns. 67 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: Has there been anything that you've heard from your family 68 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: in the way that they've described what it's like on 69 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: the grounds there that's really stuck with you in the 70 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: last few days. 71 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard it from my family, my aunties had 72 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: to relocate. I've heard it from different people now, and 73 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: I've kind of read it in the media as well, 74 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: that they've got quite a lot of intelligence on who 75 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: they're after and who lives where. So they're going around 76 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: door knocking and I'm looking for people, and if they 77 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: can't find people, they're asking other people where those people are. 78 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: So that really struck with me because I think from 79 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: what I've read, I mean, I didn't really experience anything 80 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: related to like the Nazi region, but it's almost similar, 81 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: where you know, you've got people with a list looking 82 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: out for you. They've been putting paint on doors, bright 83 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: colors for people that they're supposedly going to return to. 84 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: So we'll hearing that, you know, really just makes you think, 85 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: then once they are recognized or once the world stops caring, 86 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: what will they do to those people? And that's a 87 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: scary part because if you've taken over a government, you 88 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: need to have some rule of law, you need to 89 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: have some agreement to international laws. But you're not allowed 90 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: to just go and knick people out of their home 91 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: and do what you want. You know, you're saying you've improved, 92 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: You're saying you've become a better group or organization, but 93 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: how is that any improvement? 94 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: So today we heard in a really strange scenario, we 95 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: heard a press conference from the Taliban, and they basically 96 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: said that they would be administering a less extreme way 97 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: of life. Is it your sense that that's actually going 98 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: to be the case with your family there. 99 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: I have watched quite a bit of the media and 100 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: the things that they've been saying. The reality is the Taliban, 101 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: even if they wanted to, couldn't be what they were 102 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 2: in the nineties. The world is now a different place. 103 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: You've got people on either side of the world reporting 104 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: live and anything like that. Any kind of action they're 105 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: previously had, they just cannot get popular support in that regard. 106 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: I think that they are downplaying their actual intentions because 107 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: they want the international community to recognize them, and a 108 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: lot of what they're saying at the moment is to 109 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: appear the international community, because they know that if they 110 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: don't get that acceptance, then essentially they're going to have 111 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: sanctions on them. They're not going to be recognized, and 112 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: it's going to be the same situation in the nineties 113 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: where people are starving in Afghanistan because you've. 114 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: Got the Taliban in power. 115 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: So they've definitely wisened up a little bit, but they're 116 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: uneducated people. They're not people that have gone through a 117 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: transformation and re educated themselves. At the top level, I 118 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: believe there's obviously some influence, but on a basic level, 119 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: we're talking about people who've come from the south of Afghanistan, 120 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: areas like borders of Pakistan, lack education and now are 121 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 2: supposedly going to run a country. 122 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 3: I just do not see in very simple. 123 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: Terms how their mentality would have changed significantly, right, And. 124 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: Is that the sentiment that you get when speaking to 125 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: family on the ground in Afghanistan as well? 126 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Everyone feels that they've been saying that, look 127 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: where for now? But the fear is that if they 128 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: get legitimized to recognition, then they're just going to do 129 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: what they want and who's. 130 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: Going to be able to say anything, really, no one. 131 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: And tell me more about the plans for your family 132 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. Now. I know that it is such a 133 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: fast moving situation and a lot of our readers have 134 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: been feeling very removed from and a feeling of helplessness, 135 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: if you will, what's the plan with them? And then 136 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: to follow up with that, what are you doing in 137 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: talking to government and what can be done. 138 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: One of the groups that I kind of have joined 139 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 2: earlier last week called Lobby for Afghanistan. We had a 140 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: one and a half hour meeting where we kind of 141 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: had a bit of a discussion on what we think 142 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: are the most important steps that need to be taken 143 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: in relation to the situation in Afghanistan. Just briefly, we 144 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: think that there should be an immediate humanitarian intake, similar 145 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: to what Australia did with Syria and similar to what 146 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: Canada and I believe now the UK has done. Get 147 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: people that are in I guess everyone's in harms way, 148 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: but people that are directly through their political views, gender 149 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: or any other I guess the humanitarian way is affected 150 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: to become to Australia, we think that there needs to 151 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 2: be an increase in humanitarian aid because it is winter. 152 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: I'd say at least three and a half a million 153 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: from what I've read, people internally displaced, which means I'm 154 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: going to send the in Agugarian community wouldn't have anyone 155 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: now dealing with the farmland. There's going to be this winter, 156 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: most likely se famine. So that's number two, and then 157 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: number three. We want a clear sanction against Pakistan for 158 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: its involvement with the Taliban and no recognition of the 159 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: current government or suppose government being the Taliban, because once 160 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: they get legitimized, you're not going to be able to 161 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: have women's rights or human's rights, and there shouldn't be 162 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 2: any legitimacy of what they've done without hard and fast 163 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: rules about what's going to happen and the future of 164 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: people like women and children, ethnic minorities like the Hazara 165 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: who've been persecuted. 166 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: So I guess just as a time, that's what we want. 167 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: We've reached out for different currently local members of parliament. 168 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: We spoke with Julian Lessa the other night, which was 169 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: really good and it was nice to just kind of 170 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: give him a brief down on what's happened on our 171 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: end and what we think there's another group of Australian 172 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: Afghans who have prepared a letter to be sent to 173 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: the PM with similar requirements, mainly focusing on humanitarian aid 174 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: and humanitarian visa intake. 175 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: So I think we're all on similar thoughts and wavelengths, but. 176 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: Just different avenues that people are actually trying to reach 177 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: out and make the Australian community informed. 178 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: Sure, it will be really interesting to see how that 179 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: letter is received by our federal government. And we're listening 180 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: really attentively to Prime Minister Morrison's evolving attitudes towards humanitarian 181 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: intakes and refugees. Lala, I have a final question for 182 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: you for the young Australian in their mid twenties who 183 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: doesn't have involvement directly with the Afghan community, what can 184 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: they be doing to help with what they're saying on 185 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: their social media feeds. 186 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: One of the I guess key things that we'd like 187 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: is just for there to be an increase in awareness 188 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: of the issues. So there's a lot of links that 189 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: are going around on social media where they're actually you're 190 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: just putting a letters being prepared to inform the local MP. 191 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: You're put in your name, your email, your postcode and 192 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: automatically sends it to your local MP because at the 193 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: end of the day, these members of Parliament will go 194 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: to Parliament and we'll raise these issues if the community 195 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: is concerned, So that's a very important step. There's a 196 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: range of organizations now that are setting up funding or 197 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: you know charity essentially financial assistance for Afghanistan. We as 198 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: a community have got a few setup and we're definitely donating, 199 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: but the population of Afghans in Australia are quite limited, 200 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: so if you can donate five dollars, it goes a 201 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: really really long way to Afghanistan. And I think that 202 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: the final thing we'd like is for there to be 203 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: pressure put on the current government with the legitimacy of 204 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: the Taliban. You know, people to understand that this is 205 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: not going to be a situation where you know, they 206 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: say something and they're going to follow it because just 207 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: on a basic level, women's rights and what's happened if 208 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: you look at the Doha negotiations which have occurred since 209 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, there's not been one female representative with the Taliban. 210 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 2: You see everything they do, the media that took over 211 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: the government, there's never any female presence we're talking about 212 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: fifty percent at least of a population that's going to 213 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: be silenced. I guess just raising awareness of that and 214 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 2: being aware what it actually means. Unfortunately, I've written really 215 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: sad things online on social media. 216 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: It's their own war. 217 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: They've spent so much money, they've got to deal with 218 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: it themselves. I understand all of that. There is a 219 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: level of corruption in the government that people can't deny, 220 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, the poor people 221 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: there haven't contributed to that, you know, they just are 222 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 2: in the midst of this. 223 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: They don't have an option. 224 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: Lala, thank you for your time. We really desperately hope 225 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: that your family on the ground is okay, and we 226 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: hope that Australia pulls behind you and the Afghan community. 227 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 228 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: That's all for our chat with Lala, but head over 229 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: to our Instagram where we've got some complimentary content that 230 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: expands on Lala's story and draws out some of the 231 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: key issues that she highlighted. We're continuing to work through 232 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: the crisis in Afghanistan with you as our readers, and 233 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: we welcome all questions and things you want us to explore. 234 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: We are here on this topic. Together have a great day.