1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: I'm back in our studios, back together, the automotive Industry's 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. Thanks, thanks for coming in cackles. 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not pretending to be a murdering journalist. 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Either, am I. I've said that from the start. I 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck I'm doing. 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 3: I'm glad this has not been six months now, no 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 3: between dranks. 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Good to see you. You've cleaned up. You've really cleaned 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: your habit up. You're not living in the box anymore. Actually, 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: that's a lie. Geelong is a how is that joint going? 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: It's a moment, Yeah, mainly leaving it. 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Are you in Caria? Are you in? 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: You know they call me the King of Kiah. 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got you the big dog. Actually, I remember 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: when I was living in Geelong. I was driving a 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: dats in two sixties that at the time, and because 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: literally it would take me half a tank to get 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: to Geelong and half a ten to get to Melbourne. 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: So I would stop in at the servo just sort 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: of you know the pullover where just outside cryo there, 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: and as you're coming in it's like a slip lane. 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: This fucking idiot was driving up like the split lane 23 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: at like one hundred k's an hour, and I was like, 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: what is it? Nearly took me right, and so I 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: remember I tootored my horn at him and he stopped 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: at the lights. He could have made it, but he 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: decided to stop. I'm behind him, and as I'm about 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: twenty meters behind him, he comes out of his car 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: with a crowbar. It was like dog man off I 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: current affair back. I'm like, okay, please, please, please, don't 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: hurt my precious car. And I didn't hurt you can't 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: do that. 33 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: No, you were pretty good about it. 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: I did have to smack you with a rolled up 35 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: newspaper that does sound like Geelong. 36 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting spot. I did miss it. Actually, I remember starting. 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: I used to start. I worked at the radio station 38 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: there and I look, okay, right, it doesn't rock, it rocks. 39 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: I remember I'd start on a Saturday morning. I'd do 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: the weekend shift as well, and be walking in to 41 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: the radio station at five in the morning. And I 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: was living just up near Geelong Geelong Hospital and it's 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: like a five minute walk if that so, it's a 44 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: five minute walk. So I'm walking down five in the 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: morning and literally got like attempted to be jumped by 46 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: about six blokes just chasing me to fucking work and 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: as and back then the bottom of the radio station 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: was a bank, and so you take the elevator up 49 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: to the radio station. So quickly jumped in the quickly 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: got into the sort of bottom complex elevator. Sorry, the 51 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: sliding glass doors open. Quickly press the close button and 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: just like it was like a movie, just as they 53 00:02:54,680 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: were coming up banging on the doors. Oh Jesus, you know, yeah, 54 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: I thought it was a strange thing for my mum 55 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: to do, but yeah it was. Look geelong times, man, gee, 56 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: long times. Yeah, what's been happening with you? 57 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: What has been going on? Oh? We both recently drove 58 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: the Iron five in. Oh my god, such a good car, 59 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: isn't it. 60 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: That is the greatest electric car, at least the greatest 61 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: performance electric car there is. It's yes, Oh my god, 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: it's immensely perfect. It's just so great in every way. 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: I love it. 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: They've done such a good job with it. 65 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: I actually I had the chance to drive the RN 66 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: twenty two E, which was the prototype for the On 67 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: five in, at an event in Germany a year or 68 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: two ago, and I was blown away with that that's 69 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: when they were still playing around with gearshifts and stuff. 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: Then I got to drive it in Sweden when they 71 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: were doing the final stages of the ice testing for 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: the stability controls, and I was really impressed with it. 73 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: Then when we drove the final vehicle, actually because I 74 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: did think at the time the gear shifts and some 75 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: of the stuff that they had was a bit gimmicky. 76 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: ORE didn't know how it would work. When we drove 77 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: the final vehicle, I was blown away with how well 78 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: everything was integrated. 79 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: Well you know what that was I saw on Kodogan's podcast. 80 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: That was that particular segment of the car I think 81 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: was developed at least helped developed by an Australian guy. 82 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tim, Yeah, he was basically with that team that 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: developed that car under the leadership of Albert Bierman, who 84 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: was the former boss of him. And to me, when 85 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: he puts his name to something, if it's shit, he 86 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 3: doesn't want to know about it. And in this instance, 87 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: I think that he showed that they can really do 88 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: a performance ev And what's become evident since then when 89 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 3: we drove it at the proving ground, we're able to 90 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: do like seven farst slaps when it was quite hot 91 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: and it had no power degradation. The brakes were fantastic. 92 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 3: Some cars you get one lap in of the right 93 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: and handling track and they will begin falling apart and 94 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: break fades like it was just garbage. So that end 95 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: is a bona fide electric car. And even to the 96 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: point now where Tesla they held the release of the 97 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: Model three Performance. All three Performance was then released and 98 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: it has just been a steaming pile of the pool 99 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: in terms of the reviews from people who actually drive 100 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: like it's meant to be driven. So it is interesting 101 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: that Tesla will now need to go back to the 102 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: drawing board and probably pull apart in Iro five and 103 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 3: to figure out how to make an electric car that 104 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: doesn't suck when it comes to performance driving. 105 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I went in the Tesla Performance and I was like, 106 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: it just it didn't feel like even that much of 107 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: a jump from the old one. Yeah, it didn't even 108 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: feel like a like a two point Ohero, do you 109 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 110 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 2: Yeah? But that I actually can I say as well, Tesla. 111 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 112 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: My video might be out by the time this podcast 113 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: is out, but Tesla, they are just such conniving connivers. 114 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: Because they excuse. 115 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: Me for a second, sorry, yes, what really, Okay, I'll 116 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: take him out. I'll take him out for you. For you, 117 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Peterson, is that you do no worries. Sorry, go on. 118 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: So typically when we take a car to the proving 119 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 3: ground to film our video content, we let them know 120 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: that it's a private road and some insurers don't cover it, 121 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 3: and in the past with Tesla, they've put speed. 122 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 2: Limitters on their cars for some bizarre reason. 123 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: So this time around, we had the Model three Performance 124 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: lined up for a review and we said to them, look, 125 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: you just need to make sure you remove the speed limitter, 126 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: and they go, you know, we'll need to get approval. 127 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: And just so you know, we're not allowing you to 128 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: test track mode. I'm like, what the fuck why we're 129 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: on a track and yeah, we test cars. One of 130 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: my other colleagues literally took it to a racetrack and 131 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: they would have let him test track mode and he 132 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 3: cooked the brakes on the car and said it in 133 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: his video, and they wouldn't allow us to test track mode. 134 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: It's like he's had a fucking track, Like, how much 135 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: more track mode track do you need? So anyway, I 136 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: said to her look, we're not going to take the car, 137 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: then I'll just go rent one or get one off 138 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 3: someone who owns one. Because if you can't stand behind 139 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: your product and you're too scared for us to actually 140 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: test it, then I can tell you right now your 141 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: product is going to absolutely suck it. I don't even 142 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: need to drive it. So I just think Tesla has 143 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: just become so wrapped up in its own bs that, 144 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: you know, it's just really quite frustrating when you can't 145 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: actually test the car. 146 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: It's like why bother putting a car out to test? 147 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: All they do is give them out to influences. 148 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: We go, oh, it's so great, it's so quick, Like, 149 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: put did your test, You drive it around for a 150 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: little bit, and that was it. We're going to actually 151 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: test it so that if you do want to buy 152 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: it and take it to a track for the advertised 153 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: track mode, you'll know that it is going to last 154 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: a lap, which it just hasn't been able to do 155 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: it so far. 156 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, yeah, when we go if we 157 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: go back to the Ionic Fi, then there is such 158 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: sophistication in that car, both in an engineering aspect and 159 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: a design aspect. And I think just the imagination too 160 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: behind it. I know that sounds weird, but the fact 161 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: that someone thought, why don't we make this car really 162 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: feel like a performance ice car? And it really does, 163 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: and it freaks you out how accurate they've got this too, 164 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Like everything from the pool when you're changing gears, to 165 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: the revs to just there. It's so hard to get 166 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: a normal performance ice car, I guess, to feel a 167 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: road so well. Yet they've done it kind of in 168 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: a digital way, if that makes sense. Ye, do you 169 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 170 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: No, they've done an unreal job. 171 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: So the only downside to that is the price, especially 172 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: with Tesla's repricing of the Model three Performance. So when 173 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: I first bought a Model three Performance, it was one 174 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: hundred and about one hundred and five on the road. 175 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: So now the Model three Performance, because they've gutted the price, 176 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: is like eighty two grand or something plus on roads. 177 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 3: The Onic five Event is one hundred and ten or 178 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: one hundred and eleven plus on roads. So it is 179 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 3: definitely a much better cast, significantly better in every way 180 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: than a Model three Performance. But is it that much better? 181 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: I don't like. Yeah, likely it is, but can you 182 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: justify spending an extra thirty grand and look, to me, 183 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: I think you can. But I just don't think they'll 184 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 3: be able to sell it to the masses because I 185 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: think a lot of people will look at that and go, well, 186 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: I'm not going to spend an extra thirty grand. I'll 187 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: just get the Tesla instead, because a lot of people 188 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: won't access the stuff that the end does. 189 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: I think this car, I think this is the sort 190 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: of car, even being an ev it sits with a 191 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: certain bracket, and I don't actually think it sits next 192 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: to a. 193 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: Tesla, No, exactly, this is the thing. 194 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: It actually sits next to faster internal combustion cars, which 195 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: are all significantly more expensive. 196 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is clear as day. 197 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: And so that's what I'm saying though, So I thinks 198 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: that problem right, I think, in no respect, one hundred 199 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: and ten, one hundred and twenty thousand isn't too bad 200 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: for what you're getting with them. 201 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: But the problem is that everyone will compare it to 202 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: a Model three. And I think that's the biggest issue. 203 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: If you drive them both sides to side and back 204 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: to back, you would never get the Model three. But 205 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: I just think that when people look at this and 206 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: they see the cost of EV's going down. I think 207 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: they get a bit stick of shock when they see 208 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: the price of it. 209 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I think this is just so 210 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: out of a Tesler Brackett. I can't see how people 211 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: would I mean, technically, I guess you could compare it, 212 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: but I just think they're two completely different cars, and 213 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think that really journalists should 214 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: be comparing this to a Tesla Model three Performance, but. 215 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: They will marry. 216 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: Those fake sounds are pretty good too. 217 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 3: I think they're great, and a lot of people that 218 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 3: own this car now are using those sounds because it 219 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: just gives you that sort of realistic driving experience. It's 220 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: just as I find it really fascinating. 221 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: It's such a fun car. It's really great. Actually, there's 222 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: a dude I'd love to get him on. We should 223 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: call him on the podcast next time. But he's a 224 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: bit of an influencer with this car, and he literally 225 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: has a GT three RS next to it, so there 226 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: is two sort of you know, cars in his garage, 227 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: and it's interesting to hear his thoughts on how different 228 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: and what he enjoys about each one. I think the 229 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: thing that I really loved about the end was you 230 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: can take this from a performance what feels like a 231 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: let's call it a performance ice car to a quite 232 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: smooth commuter, like a daily commuter. And yeah, at the 233 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: flick of a switch, it's just if you you can 234 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: and you can flick between the two so much. I'm 235 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: just sort of I was thinking about. 236 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: It, you know what, just to put some of the 237 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: speed into into reference for people and perspective. 238 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: Were actually shot a drag. 239 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: Racing series where we drag race the Ionic five N 240 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: up against literally everything from a Rolls Royce to a five. 241 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: Million dollar Lamborghini that is limited in numbers is that 242 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: the new diablou Kutas. 243 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: But one of the cars that it genuinely surprised me 244 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: by was McLaren p one, which is which was one 245 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: of the Holy Trinity. 246 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: It's literally a hypercar. 247 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: The Ironic five N crossed the finish line in a 248 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: rolling race at almost the exact same time like it 249 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: was a bees dick in it. So to think that 250 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 3: that a hyena can match like what is now a 251 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: three million dollar McLaren p one, I think it's pretty unreal. 252 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: Done such a good job with it. 253 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: I saw someone take theirs to like a drag track 254 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: and it was just hilarious, like everything that was coming 255 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: up against it, I just smoke. It was what's this 256 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: guy even doing? He just like cruises on out of there. Yeah. Interesting, interesting, 257 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: such a brilliant car. God, I'd love to drive like. 258 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: I'd literally love that as a as a daily car 259 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: like I think that was my one. Yeah, maybe I will, 260 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: maybe with my with my Marrick dollars, maybe I will. 261 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: And the what else are you driving at the moment? 262 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: Oh, you want to know what it needs to be? 263 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: Would you like to know what else I'm driving at 264 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: the moment. 265 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: My genis GD sixty on the way to the salon. 266 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: It's beautiful, it's spawty, it's a little bit ritzy, and 267 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 4: my dog Pavley loves just sit in the back and 268 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 4: as he has a doggy baby Gina, he get a 269 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 4: little bit of froth on his nose. What's that little puplay? 270 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: I'll stop clicking up bum Only Steven could. 271 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: Do that. 272 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: Anyway. I don't think I've got that car for much longer. 273 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna say, but look we do the little 274 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: voice as I'm just gonna tell you, I quite like 275 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: the car. 276 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: I really enjoy it. 277 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what was. Okay, this is gonna this 278 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: is gonna divide me and you in a big way. 279 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: There's a car that I drove and our bloody was. 280 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,239 Speaker 1: I'm so confused as to why I like it. I'm confused. 281 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm confused as why I like this car. Guess what 282 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: it is? What do you think it could be? 283 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: Oh, it's Trevor's car. 284 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: The Jesus No, No, a about five hundred eight No, that's. 285 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: Just an absolute no. 286 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: I know. Here's the thing. Mine was tennis ball green 287 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: in fact a look like a sleepy tennis ball with 288 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: its new lights and all that sort of stuff. It 289 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: does less than two hundred k's in range, Like you're 290 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: charging this every couple of days. It's sixty thousand dollars 291 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: and it makes fake noises. It's just so fun. 292 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: I don't know why I like it. I don't know why. 293 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: It's just like it's such a dicky little car. I 294 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: love it. Just stop stop saying that. 295 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: Stop it Jenesis sixty. 296 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: I quite like what what did? 297 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: What? 298 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: Did you not? Like? 299 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: Everything? Like? What outrageously overpriced? I just think it is 300 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: a stupid car. 301 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: What about the like the competition on like the we had. 302 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: We used to own one at Car Advice and I 303 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: hated that thing. It had no cruise control, it was 304 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: ship to drive. 305 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: It's just no, the buttons are weird on it, really stupid. 306 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: I've got made who is young bloke here? I work 307 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: right and poor dude like he bought one brand new 308 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: from the dealer an E No, not an E, just 309 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: a yeah, ah put it from the dealer. And this 310 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: is a guy who's like it's his first big car, 311 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: like his first brand new car, you know, and he's 312 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: already like it's fully conked out. It's a break new car. 313 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: Oh dude, you can't. 314 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: Like I just would not trust an Italian electric car. 315 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I find it fun. It's a 316 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: good little commuter. 317 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: Now it's speaking of conking out. 318 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's talk about what is going to be 319 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: quite a costly little recall. Yeah, not in Australia at 320 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: this stage, but in the States, more than one hundred 321 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: thousand Toyter, Tundra and Lexus Lex V six petrol engines 322 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: need to be replaced. 323 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: More so the Tundra. They ryan the Alex that's a 324 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: beautiful looking car. 325 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: So there is a lot of engines. So basically what 326 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: they found was some examples of the engine had debris circulating. Well, 327 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: they found debris, and the concern is that it could 328 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: circulate through the engine lead to knocking, rough running, and 329 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: even a loss of powrot speed which could lead to 330 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: an accident or death. So to me, this is going 331 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: to be very expensive, and I think as well, hats 332 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: off to Toyota because a lot of car companies would 333 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: just go, oh, see how it goes, and then if 334 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: your engine shits itself, will then fix it. This is 335 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: what Ford did with power shift, right. They knew that 336 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: those gearboxes were shit and they would only replace them 337 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: if you had a problem, went through like three other 338 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: attempts to fix it, which was that they never really worked, 339 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: and then eventually you'd have to get the gearbox replaced. 340 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: By that point, people are like pulling their hair at 341 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: toy It is just going no, look, there's the risk 342 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: of it happening. It may only it may happen, But 343 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: we want to get them, get them out and replace them. 344 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: It's a big call. It's a big thing to do. 345 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: So even though there's hundred thousand. 346 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: Engines, right, yeah, even though this the alex is sold 347 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: in Australia with this engine. We still don't know whether 348 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 3: it is an issue for Australian vehicles. We're still yet 349 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 3: to find out. 350 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: But I thought it was not affecting the hybrids, right. 351 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got nothing to do with the hybrid stuff. 352 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: It's all. 353 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: Three point four later. So yeah, that's that's big news. 354 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: So for Toyota that really has rarely has a big step, 355 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: that is that is a massive, massive thing. 356 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: Being the Kamala Harris of the automotive scene, you should 357 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: probably shed some light on this one. This is okay, 358 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm kind of taking this one with a grain of 359 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: salt because Trump has pledged to kill I guess, or 360 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: just block Chinese TV subsidiaries. 361 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: What's that just the long pause? Trump has pledged. 362 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 3: To kill dot dot dot. Yeah, we'll get back to 363 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: you after this short break. So he's basically and I 364 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: was watching the Republican convention when he got up to speak, 365 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: I sat it running in the background. 366 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: And then is your mentor and he's your religious icon. 367 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: He's a zero. 368 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, so absolutely, But anyway, we won't get into that. 369 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: So he got to the end of it and he 370 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 3: basically said that if he's elected he will end the 371 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: electric vehicle mandate on day one, thereby saving the US 372 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 3: auto industry from complete obliteration, which is happening right now, 373 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: and saving US customers thousands and thousands of dollars per cup. Now, 374 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: there is a lot of merit to this because at 375 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 3: the moment in the States they have federal tax credits 376 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: for electric vehicles. Tesla has basically funded their business globally 377 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: from credits like this and fines from other manufacturers overseas. 378 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: And guess who's paying all of that, Well, the American taxpayer, 379 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: right correct. 380 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: So the American taxpayer, I think doesn't really know that 381 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: the scale of this. And Biden has already committed billions 382 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 3: and billions and billions of dollars to this, to this 383 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: green subsidy. And he then went on to say that 384 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: he will hit Chinese vehicles with one hundred percent tariff 385 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 3: in the US. Now, one hundred percent, I don't really 386 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: sell that many Chinese vehicles in the US anyway, but 387 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: one hundred percent is significantly more than what they've just 388 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: put in it in Europe, which varies between twenty and 389 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 3: forty percent. But the funny thing is some Chinese companies 390 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: are saying that's fine, we can still make money off 391 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: that would. 392 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: This affect Tesla because obviously Tesla like make a lot 393 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: of their cars in the States, they also make them 394 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: in China. 395 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: Yep. 396 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: And I know it's weird because like and Elin and 397 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: Trump are. 398 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: Like, well, that's the thing. 399 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: I think Elon saw what was happening, and he's committed 400 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: to something like sixty million dollars a month to fund 401 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 3: Trump's campaign, So I think he's hoping for a favorable 402 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: outcome here. But I think realistically what will happen is 403 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: they'll probably dial back those subsidies and I think that 404 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 3: he will say you will only be allowed to sell 405 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: vehicles if they're made in this country. 406 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting. 407 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: I think it's do you think it'll worked, Well, look 408 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: at it this way. If you don't do it, you'll 409 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: end up with what we have in Australia where you 410 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: just cannot manufacture anything because it's insanely expensive and everything 411 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: from China is cheaper. 412 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: So you know, it's fine. 413 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: For the Australian consumer, but ultimately you're going to get 414 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 3: to a point where you just don't have a manufacturing industry. 415 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 3: And the issue they have in the States is the 416 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: automotive unions over there are so so powerful that you 417 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 3: just cannot do anything without their endorsement. And Tesla is 418 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: one of the few manufacturers that doesn't have unionism, so 419 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: it means that they can get around some of these issues. 420 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: But when these unions come in and just demand more 421 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 3: and more money, it just becomes impossible to manufacture cars. 422 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: So the only way around that is by saying to 423 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: all these brands, you know, you will get hit with 424 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: tariffs unless you manufacture here, and that, in theory, should 425 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: spread out those jobs and make it more cost effective 426 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: to manufacture cars in. 427 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: The States. 428 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, there a isn't there A. Isn't there an 429 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: American brand apart from Tesla that manufacturers in China? 430 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: Oh there's there's heaps, There's heaps. 431 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: So the difference though is Tesla was the first car 432 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: brand that didn't have to have a JV with a 433 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 3: Chinese company. So what I've heard from some sources is 434 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: that when you're a manufacturer, like let's say Volkswagen, and 435 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 3: you go to manufacturer in China and you have. 436 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: Your JV, typically the JV is fifty or fifty. 437 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: One percent owned by the Chinese company, and even though 438 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 3: you have joint decision making, they pretty much call all 439 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: the shots. 440 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: So when you go, oh, look. 441 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: We'd like to release this thing, and they go, I'm 442 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 3: you sure about that, and you go no, no, that. 443 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: Was a terrible idea. Kevin's fired. 444 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that this is you know, Tesla 445 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 3: is one of the only ones that doesn't have that. 446 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: But ultimately, you know, as we've seen, Chinese government has 447 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: If you run a company in China, they have access 448 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: to your information. Yeah, so I don't know how they 449 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: get around that. 450 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: But and the cameras in your phone and a lot 451 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: of other things. 452 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: No comment, they what they do. 453 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: They have accessed to a lot of things. 454 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm sure many companies do. 455 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: To have access to your TikTok account, I know what's 456 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: going on and you snapchot. 457 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: All the letters on the US. 458 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it is interesting times. If Trump 459 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: gets in, I think we're going to see I can 460 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: see that Silicon Valley is excited because he's he's his 461 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 3: vice president is a tech businessman, so it's great news 462 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: for the tech industry. He's talking up crypto, which is 463 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: fantastic news for anyone in that industry. 464 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: For you and me. But yeah, he took me n 465 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: fts buy any chance. 466 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: I look there naturally on the way out. It's like 467 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: a penfolds gronge a. 468 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: You can't even pronounce it. How do you pronounce it? 469 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: You leave it in the cupboard. 470 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: It will go up in value, even your young d NFTs. 471 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: Unlikely but anyway, but yeah, look, I think that it is. 472 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: It is interesting times and I can't wait to see 473 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 3: what happens. If he gets in, you'll get in, you 474 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 3: know you reckon? 475 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: Yes, of course, of course I think Camala, Mala, Camilla. 476 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't say her name. Kamala. No wait, sorry, no, 477 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 1: I can't do it. 478 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: Kamala, Come on, Kamala? Is it Kamela or Kamala camel tuck? Anyway, 479 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: So another story that I thought was interesting. Actually two more, 480 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: this one plus another one. Volkswagen owners are claiming that 481 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: steeringwel buttons are causing crashes. 482 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so. 483 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: Technology Publication ARS Technica reports that at least thirteen crashers 484 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: crash reports have been filed in the US National Highway 485 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: Traffic Safety Administration, many of which involve certain Volkswagen vehicles 486 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 3: hitting objects while parking. 487 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: You tried to tell them with the haptic touch, you 488 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: tried to. 489 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: I did, And this is the annoying thing. 490 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: Every time we took one of their cars for a 491 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 3: drive around the proving ground sports cars, my hands would 492 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: be on fire. I'm like, what the fuck is going 493 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: on here? And it was the heated steering wheel. It's 494 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: the capacitive touch button was right on the edge, so 495 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,239 Speaker 3: you keep rolling onto it. And I think a lot 496 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: of owners just struggle with using these correctly and they're 497 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 3: basically phasing them out. They've gone back, right, yeah, but 498 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: some cars still have still have the. 499 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: Tig Is it the tig One's gone back? Yeah, tig 500 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: one amrok yep. I think the new Golf eight point 501 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: five Yeah, oh god, do you know what? They need 502 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: to also stop the haptic touch of volume control, which 503 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: wasn't that bad, but it was just like, guys, what 504 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: are you doing? You don't need to do that? And 505 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: they've got that have they got that in? They've got 506 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: that in more than Volkswagen Skoda yep. 507 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 3: So they are fixing that and it is actually exciting 508 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 3: because Rivian and Volkswagen have signed like a five billion 509 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: dollar deal for Rivian to supply the software stack for 510 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 3: Volkswagen's future evs from twenty twenty. 511 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: Use yeah, something something. 512 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 3: So that is exciting because it means that Volkswagen had 513 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: a service called I think it was carryad. 514 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: Basically it was an. 515 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: Absolute disaster and it delayed a lot of Volkswagen's roll 516 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 3: out of electric vehicles. And it just has to do 517 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: with I listened to a podcast with r. J. Scrima, 518 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 3: who is the CEO of Rivia and the founder, and 519 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: you listened to some rivetings, but he was basically saying 520 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 3: that their cars are different because you're plumbing everything through 521 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: basically a central computing network, whereas currently with cars you 522 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: have situations where you've got countless tens of CPUs that 523 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: manage certain things. So he said, basically, if you wanted 524 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: to make a change to the way that a driver's 525 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 3: door opens when a driver grabs the handle or beeps 526 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 3: or something like that in a traditional car, you'd basically 527 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: have to have the computer that manages the door handle, 528 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: the computer that manages the passive unlocked, the computer that 529 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: manages the infotament system, the computer that manages the lights 530 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: in the audio. You would have to make all of 531 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 3: these changes. And because it's all sourced by third party suppliers. 532 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: You basically have a headache to make all this stuff happen, 533 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 3: whereas with Rivian, because it's all controlled by the one 534 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: set of code, you're basically just making one change. 535 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: Oh far out, that makes more sense, are you right? 536 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: It's just in your pants. You're having a bit of 537 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: a Biden moment. What's going mom? Mom? 538 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 3: There was one where he was in there speaking and 539 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: he goes, mom, so you stand up and she'd been 540 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: dead for like ten or fifteen years. 541 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 5: Really, my favorite was he was like, I'm just very 542 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 5: proud to be like the first black vice president, Jesus Christ. 543 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 5: Time to sit in that chair, Time to sit in 544 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 5: the chair man, You've got cognitive decline. 545 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: This is you really are worry now. 546 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 3: This is not a political show. But he right at 547 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: the end there it was just like what will he 548 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 3: do next? 549 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: Like us just a train wreck. But anyway, I loved her. 550 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: I was having poo in a box. I don't know why, 551 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: but just like poo in a box and. 552 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: Just in the last one I wanted to quickly mention 553 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: goes just this crazy. 554 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 3: Story we ran on the site the other day. It 555 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: was about this Ford Fairlane. It was zed El Fairlane. 556 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: It's been left at a shopping center and let me 557 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: just triple check with John's so Northcote Plaza down you alway, 558 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: for over ten years it's been parked in the car 559 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: park in the exact same spot. 560 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: Now, is this a proper old like fairlane or is 561 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: this a zed. 562 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 3: L was in the eighties, late eighties, and it's been 563 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 3: sitting there for that long, no regio plates, sort of 564 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 3: dusty and all that sort of stuff. Basically, the reason 565 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 3: it's been there was the former owner's son asked for 566 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: the car park for the car to be left in 567 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 3: the car park because it belonged to his father. And 568 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 3: the father passed away and he had some sort of 569 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: connection to that shopping center. 570 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: What and what was he like a janator there or something? 571 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 2: Sure, we worked there. 572 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: So basically he passed away more than fifteen years ago 573 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 3: and the car has been there the whole time, and 574 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 3: management have basically come out and said, well, they're going 575 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 3: to let the car stay there. Someone regularly cleans it 576 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: and make sure it isn't sort of too damaged. 577 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: I did someone in there is like a little tribute. 578 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: Something like that. 579 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, father, Yeah, At the shopping like he loved this 580 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: shopping center. Yeah, and I really can't be fucked moving 581 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: this car. 582 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: I think it's a nice feel good story, is it? Yeah? 583 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: So like it's like a little it's like a like 584 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: a mureral. 585 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. 586 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: They put like a little fountain or something around it. 587 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: Maybe you can truck something. Coiner there, what happened? Let 588 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: me get this right. So they leave the car there 589 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: and people come to wash it. 590 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, someone cleans it, and so they open it up 591 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: and it's just the outside, just the inside. 592 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: I'm glad you're finally coming around to the concept. 593 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: Waste a fucking time. That was my inside voice. I'll 594 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: change that. I feel like we're going to go in 595 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: another six months, break. 596 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: Everybody, if I don't die from whatever I got. 597 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: What have you got there? Have you got a bit 598 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: of COVID? No, I'm not worried about that. 599 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: By the way, not real. So that was a joke, clearly, 600 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: So please don't ride in. 601 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: I say you're having sex with the COVID bat outside. 602 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: A fish or monkey? 603 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: No? 604 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: No, no, it's definitely a bat. Was this a little 605 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 1: present that your kid brought back from daycare? 606 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 607 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: Probably got that she goes around just licking things. I'm like, no, 608 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: don't do that. 609 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: She gets up from her dad, I'll stop. 610 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 4: Does she. 611 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: Um? Oh my goodness, speaking of oh my goodness, super 612 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: usol terror you pass. 613 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: Got to drive that? Yeah, lucky you. A few will 614 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: ever drive one. 615 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: The cousin of the TOYOTAZ four x b Z four x, 616 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: which sounds like a fucking it sounds like a coffee order. Well, 617 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: elon Musk's other kid. It's probably the older one, the 618 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: older one blowing the long hair. keV stop at. 619 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 2: Gen So Salteria reason. I think it's stupid, okay, And 620 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: the Toyota isn't the toy. 621 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: Wait can I pause? You really you think you're not 622 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: a fan of that, but you're okay with the Toyota. 623 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why. 624 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: With the Toyota, you can go from driving a Cambri 625 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: to driving that and everything feels the same. It's got 626 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: lots of buttons. It is just Toyota. It is then 627 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 3: backed up by having an Australia wide dealer networks. You 628 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 3: can charge it at any of the dealers and it's 629 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 3: it's easy. It just is easy, right, it makes sense. 630 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know you could do that. 631 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: That's the Subaru. It is like the Toyota, except without 632 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: the dealer network and without it being like any other 633 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: subar aside from the fact it's all will drive well. 634 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's their very first EV. I get what 635 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: you're saying, like, does it still fit in the realm's? 636 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 2: I just don't get why you would release it in Australia. 637 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: So I think in sort of places like California where 638 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: it feels good to be driving an EV, fine, whatever 639 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: you can get away with it. There's lots of EV's, 640 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: lots of charging in Australia where none of that's really developed. 641 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: Why would you buy a super U of all EV's. 642 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: I just it has. 643 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: One feature that the Toyota doesn't have, and it's such 644 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: an amazing feature. Do you know what this car can do? 645 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: It can if you're like on grass or some sort 646 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: of like loose gravel. Maybe you've got like a maybe 647 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: you live on acreage with a big driveway. You can 648 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: do sort of like a semi off roady cruise control 649 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: with it. 650 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: And you've got like a bushy landing streep. 651 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: Little bushy bush you can just really cruise on the 652 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: bush yep and you can't do that in the bee 653 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: Z four. 654 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: X, yes, because an EV doesn't belong like an EV 655 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: like that does not belong anywhere near an. 656 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: Off road like a bit of an off road vibe. 657 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: It's just putting from the rough really, so to speak. 658 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: You're not a fan. I didn't like. I don't. My 659 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: feelings aren't as strong as yours. It was okay, it 660 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: was like my thing was. It was fine because it 661 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: technically did everything it sort of claimed to do. It 662 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: was just fine. And I feel like the EV market 663 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: is so saturated at the moment with good stuff, Like 664 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: whether you like it or not, there's some heavy competition. 665 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: It's expensive, why would you buy it? 666 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: And well I sort of got confused as to this 667 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: is going to be your debut EV and it's fine. 668 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: Like I sort of think, if you're going to do this, 669 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: you've got to bring your A game on. And I 670 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: think Superu have missed the mark on that lately a lot. 671 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: But you have a look at Suberu, right, You've got 672 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: some of their products are just super ute. Forester is big, 673 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 3: it's got lots of room, the outback is big. It's 674 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: sort of you can do light of fighting and all 675 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. WX is stupid, it's dead. No 676 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: one really cares about that anymore. But with the EV, 677 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 3: it just has nothing that is super u about it. Like, yes, 678 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: it has all will drive, but big big deal. That's 679 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: so easy to do in an EV. It just has 680 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 3: no trademark Subaru stuff. 681 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 682 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: I think they've tried to carry on the the looks 683 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe that sort of. 684 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: I think what they've done is they've gone, we have 685 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 3: a free platform to work with with Toyota. What is 686 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: the least amount of effort we can put into this 687 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 3: to make it a super Oh I know, let's give 688 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: it a cruise control for off road that no one 689 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: will ever use. 690 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't think they're put in the least about of 691 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: effort in this car. 692 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 3: I would love to see an EV on the market, 693 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: even your Genesis. 694 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they made the thing six Oh yeah, they've even 695 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: got like the spinny thing in the middle. It looks 696 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: different and it's the same platform, but they've gone to effort. 697 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 698 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 3: I can't think of any other platform E Tron and 699 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 3: Tykwon they're just different cars. I can't think of any 700 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 3: other platform that less effort has been put into making 701 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 3: it unique. 702 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: Mustang marquees. Pretty boring. 703 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: No, but that's it's not shared with other Ford stuff. 704 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: That's true. It is its own car. 705 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 3: Like I can't think of any other shared platform where 706 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: they have just put less effort in. 707 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: Hmmm, yeah, actually that's a good point. 708 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: There's there's heaps of vs Ye platforms. 709 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well look you might have a point, very harsh. 710 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: What's wrong? Are you grumpy? You know what I think 711 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: it is? You haven't eaten chumps, I haven't haven't eaten 712 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: soon in your belly and you need a tummy rub 713 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: and you need a bit of a ride in the 714 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: genusis hey? Before we wrap this sacker up, tell me 715 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: one quick thing. You are looking forward to driving. 716 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 2: I am going on a top secret mission. 717 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: Is that why you're wearing a fake mustache? 718 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: Correct? 719 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: Shades? 720 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: Correct? 721 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 3: So next time we talk on the podcast, I will 722 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 3: have seen I will have seen a very special big 723 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 3: SUV that everyone is waiting for. Seven cedar, yes, and 724 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 3: eight Cedar and it's an SUV that did once have 725 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 3: a V eight but no longer. Will don't guess it 726 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 3: because I'm not allowed to say what it is. 727 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: But have we talked about their brand recently? 728 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 3: Yes, it would be on the next show, so I'm 729 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 3: very very excited for that. 730 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,959 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, we're just trying to think how I could 731 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: dole up this one. There is a car that I 732 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: will be driving next week and it is a new 733 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: car to Australia current General, new brand to Australia as well, 734 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: and rival is one of the greatest selling cars in 735 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: this country. 736 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: I'm confused. 737 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: Really, would you like a clue? 738 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 2: No? 739 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 3: No, Contact at the Drivers Show dot com today. See 740 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 3: if you can guess Gordy's in mine, because I still 741 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 3: don't know. 742 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: What yours is. Actually a clue is okay? Don't tell 743 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 2: me though? 744 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: Do you want to, I'll give you an audio clue. 745 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: You ready. 746 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: Stop it? Do you know what that is? I did 747 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: the flaps and everything that is going to make it, 748 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: that's going to make it amazing real? 749 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: Oh goodness, do you know what that could be? Yes? 750 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. There's six of them. 751 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 2: Anyway, jeez, gaggle. 752 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: Anyway, contact us the Drivers Show dot com today if 753 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 3: you can guess what is up? 754 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: You can tell This episode didn't have as much planning 755 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: as the last one.