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Speaker 1: Katie Wolf covering the issues that affect you every day

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Speaker 1: and only on Mix one O four point nine. It

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Speaker 1: is just on fifteen minutes after nine o'clock. Now, frightening

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Speaker 1: night for the people of Boro, Lula and surrounding communities

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Speaker 1: as tropical cyclone megan hit. Hundreds of people were expected

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Speaker 1: to be evacuated yesterday, but those plans were canceled as

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Speaker 1: it became too unsafe for the id of aircraft to land.

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Speaker 1: Oh I was yesterday told that elderly people with health

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Speaker 1: issues were pretty concerned as that cyclone edge closer and

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Speaker 1: options for shelter well minimized with those flights canceled.

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Speaker 2: Now it crossed is a category three.

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Speaker 1: As I understand it, but as of early this morning

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Speaker 1: it was downgraded to a category one and now a

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Speaker 1: tropical low. The opposition leader Lea Fanocchiaro joins me on

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Speaker 1: the line. Good morning to you, Leah.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, and to your listener, Lea.

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Speaker 1: The situation yesterday was a frightening one. Have you spoken

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Speaker 1: to people in the community this morning.

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Speaker 3: I haven't spoken to people out that way. We've got

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Speaker 3: Steve Edgington, our local member out in that area, is

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Speaker 3: keeping very close contact with his constituents, and ultimately, I

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Speaker 3: think people this morning are going to be feeling relieved.

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Speaker 3: We're not hearing a lot of reports of significant damage

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Speaker 3: and thank goodness as cyclone seemed to move between Robinson

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is, you know, it is certainly a good

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Speaker 1: thing that the community seems to have fed fairly well

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Speaker 1: at this point in time. No doubt there is still

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Speaker 1: a clean up effort going to need to get under

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Speaker 2: I mean, leah questions being asked.

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Speaker 1: This morning though, where is this seven million dollars that's

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Speaker 1: been earmarked for a cyclone shelter which had been committed.

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Speaker 1: What is your understanding or what's Steve Edgington telling you?

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Speaker 3: So this is again another failure of labor to deliver.

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Speaker 3: In March last year, they were very happy to put

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Speaker 3: out a press release as they always do, saying that

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Speaker 3: it would be completed by the end of last year.

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Speaker 3: And of course we've just had a cyclone ripped through

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Speaker 3: So this is again another labor failure. They continue to

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Speaker 3: promise the world and under deliver for territories no matter

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Speaker 3: where they live. And it's just another example of where

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Speaker 3: government incompetence can literally be a life and death situation

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Speaker 3: for people on the ground. Now it wasn't this time,

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Speaker 3: and thank goodness for that, but it could have been

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Speaker 3: a very different story overnight, and I think Labor is

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Speaker 3: very lucky that it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: I'm being told, I'm being told actually this morning by

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Speaker 1: tradesman you know that that works been delayed because of

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Speaker 1: government indecision.

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Speaker 3: I've got no doubt about that, Katie. This is government

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Speaker 3: in competence at its best. And of course it was

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Speaker 3: promised well before they decided in March last year that

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Speaker 3: they'd somehow have it completed by.

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Speaker 4: The end of the year.

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Speaker 3: And it's not the only time Territorians have been promised

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Speaker 3: things that never happened. I mean, you go back to

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Speaker 3: the fact they continue to promise it. So this is

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Speaker 3: a government that has over promised, under delivered and continues

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Speaker 3: to foil territory in Well. Look what I'm being totally

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Speaker 1: What I'm being told is that the builder, you know,

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Speaker 1: is keen ass like they're out there, from my understanding,

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Speaker 1: trying to get things done, but there's a delay from

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Speaker 1: how are you going to ensure that a bohemoth of

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Speaker 3: Well, look, there's a lot of hard working people in DIPPLE,

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Speaker 3: and I know they cop a lot of flak and

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Speaker 3: comes from strong leadership at the top. What we have

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Speaker 4: Real world with reality.

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Speaker 3: So it's about making sure you're honest with people about

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Speaker 3: whereas labor are much more interested in ensuring that they

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Speaker 4: All about it.

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Speaker 3: There's just no This government has shown time and time

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Speaker 3: And that's why when you look around, people can't see

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Speaker 4: In fact, all we can see is our.

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Speaker 3: Life getting worse, crime getting worse, our road infrastructure getting worse.

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Speaker 3: You know, no one's life is better under labor and

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Speaker 3: that is from their own lack of leadership, their own

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Speaker 1: Leah, I want to move along because today actually marks

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Speaker 1: well one year since the loss of Declan Lavity. Now

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Speaker 1: I know, Hospitality and Tea have posted on social media

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Speaker 1: we think of him, his family, his friends, his co

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Speaker 1: Now I know that this is obviously very much before

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Speaker 1: the courts, but Lea, the community continues to scream out

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Speaker 1: for change in this space. We spoke yesterday to the

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Speaker 1: You've got a situation where people are fed up with

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Speaker 1: a perceived lack of action from government. Meanwhile, in New

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Speaker 1: amending the Bail Act. So they're going to amend the

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Speaker 1: that a bail authority such as police, magistrates and judges

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Speaker 1: offense while on bail. This approach is targeted, they say,

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Speaker 3: Okay I do want to acknowledge the one year anniversary today,

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Speaker 3: to make change. And one year later, no one's life

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Speaker 3: going to put people's rights to be safe above everything else.

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Speaker 3: And so New South Wales labor moving in this direction.

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Speaker 3: We've had Queensland labor to some extent make small inroads

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Speaker 3: into dealing with breach of bail, but Territory labor just

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Speaker 3: can't bring themselves to deal with this issue and instead

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Speaker 3: they minimize it. I mean, once again we've had labor

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Speaker 3: and I can't stress this enough for your listeners.

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Speaker 4: There are immediate.

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Speaker 3: Changes that can be made to the laws in Parliament,

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Speaker 3: literally within one or two hours. I could walk into

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Speaker 3: Parliament at ten o'clock, Katie, and we could change people's

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Speaker 3: They want to blame everyone else for their failure to

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Speaker 4: Lea.

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Speaker 1: At this point in time, I understand that, and I

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Speaker 1: think that a lot of our listeners understand that. You know,

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Speaker 1: you guys are in opposition. There really isn't a huge

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Speaker 1: deal that you can do besides pressure the government. But

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Speaker 1: will you give that assurance that if the colp are

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Speaker 1: call an emergency parliamentary sitting and make the changes to

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Speaker 1: bail and use crime that are required.

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Speaker 3: There's no question, Katie, it is the single biggest issue.

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Speaker 3: So we have a raft of legislation ready to go.

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Speaker 3: We have a plan on bail in terms of lowering

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Speaker 3: the age of criminal responsibility, making sure that all serious

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Speaker 3: breach of bowel condition and offense, ensuring there are boot

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Speaker 3: camp and skills training facilities for judges to sentence people too,

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Speaker 3: making sure parents are held accountable for their offending children

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Speaker 3: to give police greater powers to deal with youth. Stop

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Speaker 3: the endless second chances. I mean, there is a raft

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Speaker 4: What about That is our commitment in.

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Speaker 2: New South Wales.

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Speaker 1: One of these changes that they're implementing as well is

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Speaker 1: a new offense for posting and broadcasting. So the New

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Speaker 1: create a new offense in the Crimes Act, imposing an

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Speaker 1: additional penalty of two years imprisonment for people who commit

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Speaker 1: This new provision is going to be subject the subject

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Speaker 1: of a statutory review though it will take place two

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Speaker 1: years after it commences. But essentially what they are going

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Speaker 1: going to be a new offense. If you want to

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. And you might recall, maybe a year

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Speaker 3: or so ago, Katie, the COLP developed ram raid legislation

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Speaker 3: would bring in a new offensive, ram raid as a

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Speaker 3: standalone offense, and as part of that suite of reform.

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Speaker 3: We actually have the same social media component to that legislation.

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Speaker 3: So it's something we've already worked up. It's something we're

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Speaker 3: focused on delivering if we win, and it's certainly a

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Speaker 3: way in which you're going to gain another mechanism to

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Speaker 3: hold young people accountable.

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Speaker 4: If they're going to be engaging in this type of.

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Speaker 3: Illegal activity and then be very proud of it and

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Speaker 3: post it on social media, there needs to be an

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Speaker 3: additional consequence.

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Speaker 2: And so will it be two years already? Will it

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Speaker 2: be two years? Leah?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I can't.

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Speaker 3: I'd have to go back and look at it, Katie.

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Speaker 3: It's something we did quite a while ago, and it's

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Speaker 4: Pile, ready to go if we win.

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Speaker 3: But it's certainly an additional aggravating factor if you're engaging

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Speaker 4: So look at dthing we're already very focused on.

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Speaker 1: I know that you guys are in opposition. I know

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Speaker 1: everybody listening understands that you're in opposition. So you know,

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Speaker 4: Same without question.

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Speaker 3: So today we have brought on a matter of public

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Speaker 3: And our police are actually responsible for bailing people as well,

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Speaker 4: Has got to stop, and that can be stopped.

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Speaker 3: Immediately through changes in legislation, which the COLP is one

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Speaker 1: A quick question from one of our listeners, Katie, can

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Speaker 1: you find out if bail, sorry, if the bill to

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Speaker 3: Well, I think all of that legislation is done. It's

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Speaker 3: At every turn, they say one thing, they're happy to

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Speaker 2: Territory Leah.

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Speaker 1: One area where people are certainly hoping that they are

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Speaker 1: concerns had been raised about the sufficiency of funding for

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Speaker 1: At the time, the Northern Territory News reported that internal

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Speaker 1: government documents had revealed that the Northern Territory government slashed

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Speaker 1: are recommended thirty three million dollar five year men's behavior

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Speaker 1: Now we are due to have these changes come into

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Speaker 1: concerned that come March twenty five we're going to see

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Speaker 3: I think this is again labor weakening the law and

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Speaker 3: one thing, did another. Those programs still don't exist, and

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Speaker 3: so I mean it's a very serious thing. I've had

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Speaker 4: But part of this legislation.

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Speaker 3: You know, gives like discounts for sentencing. So if you

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Speaker 3: a concession on your sentence. It's almost like, oh, there

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Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to meeting with the sector to

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Speaker 3: explore this further. But our position is that people who

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Speaker 3: I don't think any territory and has confidence in Chancey

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Speaker 3: Paig or Labor to make sure that there are programs.

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Speaker 3: Where are they getting the staff from.

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Speaker 4: In these communities?

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Speaker 3: Which communities have got programs ready to go? I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's just again, this tricky talk from Labor is fooling.

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Speaker 1: No one lea before I let you go this morning?

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Speaker 1: Are the country Liberal Party star candidate picked for the

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Speaker 1: Labor pre selection just weeks before swapping party allegiances. That

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Speaker 1: is what the Northern Territory News is reporting. Doctor Tansel Raman,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and certainly it didn't take him very

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Speaker 1: And I think a turn coast, I mean, is that

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. He joined the Labor Party clearly for

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Speaker 3: so we welcome Chansa with open arms.

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Speaker 4: He of course is.

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Speaker 3: An exceptional candidate who will fight hard for the people

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt he seems experienced.

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Speaker 1: But I guess people are going to be maybe hearing

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Speaker 3: I think the fact that he was only a member

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Speaker 3: there are many successful politicians of the pass who joined

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Speaker 3: for the people in Fong Limb. He'll be a terrific

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Speaker 3: of our team. So we're glad to have him. It's

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Speaker 1: Well, Leah finoki are, I'm going to have to leave

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Speaker 1: it there, Opposition Leader, thank you very much for your

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Speaker 1: time this morning.

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Speaker 4: Thank you and take care everyone.

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Speaker 2: Thanks