1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken Plus. I'm Amy Torba and 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: coming up on today's show, Ossie Fast Fashion brand beginning 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: boutique Scores, the Ultimate Influencer collab, Molly May's doco update, 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: and our recommendations. But first, former Love islander Anna McAvoy 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: has opened up about how her body is struggling postpartum. 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: The business owner and podcaster, whose son Swede is seven 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: months old, has revealed she's found it difficult to walk 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: for the past three weeks. God as if you don't 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: go through enough as a mother, like you have to 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: carry the baby for nine months, go through birth and 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: you've got a breastfeed if you choose to, you've also 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: got broken sleep for months a month on end, and 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: then suddenly you're at the seven month mark and you're 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: struggling to walk, Like I didn't even know this was 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: a thing. Well, she said that she has excruciating pain 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: in her foot when she gets up in the middle 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: of the night to come in and see how Swade's going. Well, 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: I think her husband should be getting up then, yeah, 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: And she said that the pain got so bad that 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: she had to visit a doctor who recommended that she 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: you have an MRI to figure out what is causing 22 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: so much pain and pretty scary. Well yeah, well the 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: doctor thought at first that perhaps it could be broken 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: or it could be planta fasci itis, which is very 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: common in postpart and women, which I hadn't. I never 26 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: knew this was a thing. So has that got to 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: do with your ligaments becoming a bit looser? Because I 28 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: remember everyone's like, oh, your shoe size actually goes up 29 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: when you're pregnant, and I was like, oh, no way, 30 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: and then it happened. I was like, this is farcause 31 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: everything loosens up for you in order to have the baby. 32 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ligaments. I looked into it and I said, 33 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: after being pregnant, your foot structure completely changes. And there's 34 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: also a lot of reasons why you get planta fasci 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: artists due to hormonal changes as well. I always assumed 36 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: your foot would go back to its normal size once 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: you'd given birth and all your hormones had settled down. 38 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: But apparently most women go up after one shoe size 39 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: and they never fully return. So is that an excuse 40 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: for me to throw out all of my shoes you 41 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: get new ones? I think? So, I think we need 42 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: to gogle on a shopping spree. It is actually crazy 43 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: all of the things that can happen to your body 44 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: after giving birth. Because I think I was telling the 45 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: subscribers on another episode how I broke out in this 46 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: rash and I actually went to an allergist and I'm 47 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: not allergic to any specific food. He said it was 48 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: probably a viral infection that I picked up, and due 49 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: to just having a baby, the rash occurred. Like sometimes 50 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: your body just does these crazy things. I mean, I've 51 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: had a terribly sore back and arms. I mean, my 52 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: baby is twelve kilos at eight months. He is nine 53 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: months old, so fifth percent, I'm not surprised. My mum 54 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: was telling me that one of her friends, whose daughter 55 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: has just had a baby, she's had to undergo all 56 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: this physio because when she was holding the baby, it's 57 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: caused all this ligament damage in her arm. Well, what 58 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: is this just the grandma? Well, when you're having to 59 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: rock a baby to sleep as well. I mean I 60 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: remember when my son was only on a couple of 61 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: weeks old and I was like, this is hurting my arms. 62 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: How am I going to go when he's so much bigger? 63 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: I really feel for Anna because she is in a 64 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: moonbit at the moment, and she said that Swede has 65 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: started crawling, so she's trying to keep up with him 66 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: all time. She got the MRI results back and she 67 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: does have planta fasci itis and swelling in her heels, 68 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: so she has been instructed to roll a frozen bottle 69 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: of water on her foot every morning. Can you imagine 70 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: people going up to her and being like, oh, so 71 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: you had to injure, like just you know, after had 72 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: a baby. My ligaments of God first Swade looks pretty 73 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: big too. I feel like he could rival Harry Amy possibly. 74 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: It just shows how much women have to go through 75 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: and continues to go through. Like everyone thinks once you've 76 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: had the baby, that's it, But it's just a whole 77 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: new thing, isn't it. Well, the poor thing. So she 78 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: is still breastfeeding and she said that her whole body 79 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: feels inflamed and she's getting bumps that are popping up 80 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: on her breasts due to the fact that she is 81 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: still breastfeeding. It sounds horrendous. Ossie fast fashion brand Beginning 82 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: Boutique has scored the ultimate collab, launching a collection with 83 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: self proclaimed tennis wag Morgan Riddle. It wouldn't be January 84 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: if we weren't talking about Morgan because she's at the 85 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: OS Open. Of course, she is the partner of tennis 86 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: player Taylor Fritz, and she gained a massive following for 87 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: sharing behind the scenes at the tennis and of course 88 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: all of her elevated court side out She brought tennis 89 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: call back in with a bang yeah. And she was 90 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: even featured in Vogue, Harper's Bizarre, and also The New 91 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: York Times. So this is a very big get for 92 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: Beginning Boutie. A bit of a shock one. I've seen 93 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: a lot of commentary on TikTok being like I love 94 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: her style, Why the hell is she doing a collab 95 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: with Beginning Boutique, a fast fashioned brand, Like why didn't 96 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: she go like she wears all these designer clothes, Like 97 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: could she not have done a collab with someone better? 98 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: It kind of cheapens it a bit because this is 99 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: the first co branded collaboration that she's done. They must 100 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: have offered her a huge sum of money. Maybe this 101 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: is all part of like a twenty sixteen type revival, 102 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: because I feel like they had their heyday back then. 103 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: They were working with Shanniu Grumman and all her influence 104 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: of friends. So it is an amazing get for them. 105 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: But is it going to translate across to the Australian Open. 106 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: Is she going to be wearing these outfits courtside? I 107 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think so, and I also 108 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: don't think that the general public will want to either. 109 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: I had a look. There are fourteen different looks and 110 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of gowns. Like I understand that there's 111 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: a lot of pop up bars and there's a lot 112 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: of nightlife there, but I don't think anyone is actually 113 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: going to be wearing these outfits to the Australian Open. 114 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: Maybe some of the more two piece sets that are 115 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: on offer, but I feel like you look like a 116 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: bit of a dicky if you rocked up in some 117 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: of this. I haven't been to the tennis for two 118 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: years now, so I don't know if it's changed since then. 119 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: But I know everyone's talking about this elevated style at 120 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: the tennis, but all the general punters just wear casual clothes. 121 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: The influencers who are wearing, you know, beautiful clothing because 122 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: they're being photographed and they're actually going to Mark all 123 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: the events and marquees and stuff, Whereas you know, if 124 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: you're just going to watch a game, I mean, I'd 125 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: still probably just go in jeans and a T shirt. 126 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: It was in the video where Morgan is modeling some 127 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: of the outfits. She's wearing a pink two piece sort 128 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: of suit with this white head scarf and white gloves 129 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: and she's watching the tennis on the sidelines. And again, 130 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine anyone just an average sports fan 131 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: and wearing this to a game. Again, maybe to one 132 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: of the pop up bars, but not to an actual game. 133 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming she was paid a lot of 134 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: money for this collaboration, and for her it might be 135 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: a way of dipping her toes in seeing what the 136 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: demand is and then potentially launching her own brand. Well, 137 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: the thing is, it's quite clear that she actually didn't 138 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: have anything to do with designing this collection at all. 139 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: It just said that they were inspired by her looks. 140 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: So all of the looks that she wears from designer brands, yes, 141 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: privistentially taken. Well, it's a very affordable range, so the 142 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: clothes range from forty nine to ninety nine to one 143 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty dollars, so maybe there will be a 144 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: lot of gen Zetters who will be wearing this to 145 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: the games. Who knows. Amy, I'm desperate to talk to 146 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: you about Molly May's doco. So part two of season 147 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: two dropped on Thursday. We actually promised that we were 148 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,119 Speaker 1: going to watch it together, but then you and Sophie 149 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: did the dirty and watch it together without me. We 150 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: were together the day it dropped, and we thought if 151 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: we watched it now, we might be able to share 152 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: some memes or there might be something relevant to talk 153 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: about on the podcast. However, I hate to say it, 154 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: I was a bit disappointed, but I still enjoyed the show. 155 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: But there really wasn't that much that went on in 156 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: part two. Yeah, and we were expecting something big. I mean, 157 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: we spoke on Friday Show, which was pre recorded before 158 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: we watched Molly May's docco about how we felt like, 159 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: surely some big news was coming on the doco, particularly 160 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: around Molly May and Tommy Fury potentially having a second 161 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: child that has been a hot topic since their mal 162 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: Dives holiday. But there was none of it. It was 163 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: literally just nothing like it was so blat And I 164 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: hate to say that because again, I still devoured every 165 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: second of it. I mean I made my husband watch 166 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: it with me. He was playing a game on his 167 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: phone most of the time, and I kept turning to 168 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: him to say things, and I'm like, oh, hang on, 169 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: you don't give a fark. But like, I enjoyed it 170 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: because I love all of her vlogs, but it wasn't 171 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: like groundbreaking. There was no real wow moment or information 172 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: that was really out of this world. And I felt 173 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: like I would get more info out of one of 174 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: her vlogs, like felt more connected to her. And it's 175 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: not really that surprising because her show was really meant 176 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: to be only one series, and it was very dramatic 177 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: because it focused on her split with Tommy Fury. But 178 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: now her and Tommy are back together. I mean, Molly 179 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: has said it herself, like she doesn't have that many 180 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: dramatic things going on in her life. The way it 181 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: ended was weird because for those who haven't seen it, 182 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: she was packing her house up to move in with Tommy, 183 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: So Tommy when they broke up, actually stayed in their 184 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: new family home that they had just bought together. It 185 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: turns out Molly may only spent one night in that 186 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: house with Tommy before they broke up, and she was 187 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: really apprehensive about leaving her house because she's like, I 188 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: actually feel like I need somewhere that I can potentially 189 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: go back to if things turn to shit again. So 190 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: they've kind of left the door open for a doco 191 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: of Molly and Tommy living back together. I wonder if 192 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: because originally the doco was meant to be following Tommy 193 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: and Molly's wedding prep. Yeah, I wonder maybe if they're 194 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: going to sign a deal for something like that. Well, 195 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: I mean the other thing is if she's pregnant, I 196 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: mean that would be super interesting to follow. They might 197 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: have just had to fill out the last three episodes. Yeah, 198 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: I was so disappointed because I thought Tommy was actually 199 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: going to feature on it, but he didn't. I Mean, 200 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: there were a couple of face times of him on it. Again, 201 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: he seemed to be causing a bit of tension between 202 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: Molly and her sister Zoe. Also, the only time he 203 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: was included was when he spoke about wanting to take 204 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: a shit in Molly's toilet at her work. All with 205 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: him in the glass windows. It's like, I probably wouldn't 206 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: have included that it was interesting how Molly was like, oh, 207 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: my moods are so dependent on him, And then you 208 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: could see Zoe was getting really frustrated because she did 209 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: this tour of her new home and Molly was just 210 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: on her phone, probably texting him the whole time, and 211 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: there was like a little bit of a back and 212 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: forth between them. I really like Zoe and I really 213 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: like Molly, and it's bad. I don't know. I feel 214 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: guilty weighing into sister drama because there's always a lot 215 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: more going on than you see. But from an outsider, 216 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: it looked as if Molly wasn't really giving Zoe all 217 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 1: of her time and energy, like this is something really 218 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: exciting happening in Zoe's well, she's bought this house. A 219 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: lot of the time it has been about Molly, Molly, Molly, 220 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: what she's doing, her breakup, and the fact that Zoe 221 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: and Danny were both living in the house with Molly 222 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: while Tommy was away. They were clearly helping out with 223 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: bambying all of that, and then to just have Tommy 224 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: come back in their lives after they've probably both slagged 225 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: him off, it would be pretty awkward. I think Molly 226 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: was acting like that though, because it was quite clear 227 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: that she didn't want Zoe and Danny to move out 228 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: because firstly she liked having their company, but secondly it 229 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: put the pressure on her to have to move back 230 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: in with Tommy, and you could tell like she wasn't 231 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 1: quite ready to do that. In terms of Molly and 232 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: Tommy's relationship. On Friday Show, we were discussing how everyone's 233 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: been on engagement watch for this re engagement because of 234 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: course Tommy already proposed a couple of years ago. They've 235 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: then broken up and Molly has said, well, I'd like 236 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: a bit of a big deal made, you know, he 237 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: needs to repropose and then I'll wear my ring. But 238 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: in the doco she dropped that she's been wearing her 239 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: ring and it feels right again. So I don't think 240 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: we're getting a second proposal. What surprised me was finding 241 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: out how sad Molly was actually to leave her house, 242 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: because she has just suddenly popped up on her YouTube 243 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: channel living at what was Tom's house the Cheshite. Yeah, 244 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: and she seems really happy about it and excited, and 245 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: she hasn't really touched on any feelings of sadness or 246 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: negativity and I didn't even realize that she had packed 247 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: up her whole house, like obviously they're renting it out 248 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, I thought that it had just remained 249 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: intact in case, you know, she had to leave again, 250 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: because for those unaware, when she bought the house, she 251 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: completely gutted it and had it all completely renovated to 252 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: her taste. All of the furniture fit in that house. 253 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: That's why I was so surprised that they've bought this 254 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: new house, because Amy, you were gushing about how amazing 255 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: it was, and I haven't actually seen the full house, 256 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: but what I saw in the Christmas log I was 257 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: kind of overwhelmed because they bought it furnished, and obviously 258 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: Tommy's been living in there and he probably doesn't give 259 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: a shit about what the furniture looks like. But I'm 260 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: assuming Molly's gonna want to change everything. So I'm like, well, 261 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: why didn't Tommy move back into the place you had 262 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: first together, redo the other place and then move in, 263 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't really make sense. So there's a huge 264 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: fuck off. Manchin, Like they're able to just be in 265 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: the house while there are builders, as they could just 266 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: go to another major but they've just lived through all 267 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: these renovations. And the other place was a massive mansion too. 268 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: I actually think though, that the Cheshire House is on 269 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: another level. Okay, I just made other one's a new bill. 270 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: This one is just an old mansion basically. Maybe it's 271 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: just the furnishings that threw me off, because it looks 272 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: like a fifty year old man's furnished. It's got that 273 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: via well it's one. It's got an indoor pool, it's massive, 274 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: it's got an indoor sauna, it's got a gym. It's 275 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: fucking huge. Like the front yard. It looks like a 276 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: manor house. Okay, it looked fantastic in maybe two years 277 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: now today might decide to move again. I just would 278 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: want to live through that renovations again. Now. One thing 279 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: that was I suppose a bit of a surprise and 280 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: interesting to take a look at behind the scenes was 281 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: Molly visiting addadas So. A couple of days before the 282 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: doco dropped, she announced that she was doing her own 283 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: collaboration with the brand so. On Instagram, she wrote, I 284 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: can't quite believe I'm saying this, but in twenty twenty 285 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: six I will be officially partnering with Addidas UK on 286 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: a limited footwear collection, then on to say it started 287 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: out as a dream and doesn't feel real even now. 288 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: You could tell she was quite nervous when she visited 289 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: added As because the film crew went behind the scenes 290 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: of her first official meeting in Germany with the Sportswhear 291 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: brand and I felt for her because they were like, 292 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: you can use whatever you want, like these are the 293 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: color swatches, and then she made this faux pa and goes, oh, 294 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: what's that? What's that swatch made at her? Is that 295 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: some kind of swede And they're like it's just cardboard 296 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: And you could tell that she was like, holy fuck, 297 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: like what she thought it was. She thought that the 298 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: swatch was working out what material the shoe was, but 299 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: it was just the color. Oh and I don't know 300 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: about you. You shared the vision on Instagram and then 301 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: I said, you know, Molly, take my money because I 302 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: definitely will be buying a pair of her shoes if 303 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: they are sold to Australia. I'm thinking maybe it's only 304 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: going to be to the UK, considering she tagged at 305 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: it as UK. But I almost felt a little bit 306 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: like embarrassed when she was talking through the plan about 307 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: having you know, one set of the sneakers colored like 308 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: an ic latte and the other as a mucher, And 309 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: the people were kind of just like nodding and agreeing, 310 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: Like I wonder if they were like, oh, we were 311 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: expecting a bit something, a bit different. Thought it was 312 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: a fabulous idea. If you think about it. We're white 313 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: and beige. It's not really out of this world. No, 314 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: not just white and beige. Those colors go so well together. 315 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: I mean, look at Molly's house, everything is white and beige. 316 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: Of course, I liked the concept of the matches shoes. 317 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: That's what I thought was cool. Almost felt like she 318 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: pulled it out of her ass. Well. I think the 319 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: funny thing was when her manager Frien was like, yeah, 320 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: Molly's really known for her drinks, you know, her coffee machine, 321 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: and it just sounded so vapid. But yeah, and also 322 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: because Molly's only just recently started drinking coffee, as someone 323 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: who has watched her vlogs over the years intently, it 324 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: took her a while to even like but it's all 325 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: but if you think about it, it's all about the aesthetic. 326 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: I said to Sophie that commentary. It reminded me a 327 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: little bit of when we have meetings with older people 328 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: and you might explain something on social media and everyone's like, 329 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: oh wow, like really, like that's a fantastic idea, and 330 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: it's like the most basic idea that he That's the thing. 331 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: I didn't think that they were probably that impressed with 332 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: the idea, but as Molly said, it's a lot of 333 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: pressure because they have done so many different colors of shoes, Like, 334 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: let's be real, it's really just choosing a color palette 335 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: for a pair of shoes. Yeah, but I thought maybe 336 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: she'd come with something that was a bit more personalized, 337 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: like oh, I'm from this part of the UK, or 338 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: like this is bringing in Love Island vibes or boxing Butte, 339 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, like sort of pick it apart more rather 340 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: than just saying, oh, I really liked Ice Lattis, Like 341 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: it kind of came across as a bit basic bitch, 342 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: which probably, actually, to her credit, is actually a very 343 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: smart idea in the fact that so many girls are 344 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: Ice Last actually much a girl. That's what I think. 345 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: It's genius. I think this shoe is going to sell out. 346 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: I fucking want the shoe, Like as soon as she 347 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: said ice latte and matcha, and I was like, my god, 348 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: this girl's a genie. Like chake my mode, take my 349 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: fucking money. Sometimes the best ideas are the most simple ideas, 350 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: and people go, well, why didn't anyone else think if 351 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: maybe I'm just used to seeing people wink on about 352 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: the steps behind these fashion ideas, and maybe that is 353 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: the beauty in it, that it's such a simple idea, 354 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: or she was describing she said, you know when you 355 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: pour your coffee into the milk into your icel, it 356 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: makes that beautiful ye gradient color. I mean, I've never 357 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: seen that on an added ask shoo, or if she 358 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: said addie as. I always judge people on how they 359 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: say added as. The people that say Adidas usually Americans. 360 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it grinds my gears. I remember a 361 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: lecturer at UNI kept saying Adidas, and I was like, oh, oh, Nike. 362 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: A lot of people in the uksa Nike. I actually 363 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: love how Molly says added as. I think I might 364 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: start saying Adidas. Actually my husband kept saying Nike. I 365 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: think it was just a piss me off. Let's get 366 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: into some recommendations. I have been quite adventurous with my 367 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: TV viewing normally, I don't take advice from Sophie because 368 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: she and Brandon seem to just be on top of everything, 369 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: like they're always like, yeah, watch that, watch that. And 370 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: they told me I should watch Stranger Things. Now I'm 371 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: up to season three. Love that. It's like that everyone's 372 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: been watching Stranger Things. It's hard. I sure recommendation, I know, 373 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: but it's hard when everyone's watched it and everyone's in 374 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: it up to series five and you've got to go 375 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: back ten years and watch it when Millie Bobby Brown 376 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: is literally ten years old. That was what I've been 377 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: going through, and unfortunately I also got this horrible virus 378 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: when I was watching it. And because Stranger Things are 379 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: so dark, you know, when you kind of associated with 380 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: feeling sick. So I've had to put paws on it. 381 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: At a great time because Love Island All Stars UK 382 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: is back. It started. We sat on Friday show it 383 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: was starting that night. I was so disappointed. Actually started 384 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: at twelve thirty Saturday. Oh it's delay. Yeah, Oh my gosh, 385 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm already hooked. I've watched the first two episodes and 386 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: I think they've done a really good job at casting. 387 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: I was very excited to see Milli court. She hasn't disappointed. 388 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: She just is such a lovable person on the show. 389 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: You really want her to find someone. And it's quite 390 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: interesting because they went in there and they had to 391 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: hand out sashes too, like the girls had to hand 392 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: out sashes to the boys that made a really good 393 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: first impression and then those that they basically didn't see 394 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: anything with. And Milly gave her sash to one of 395 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: the older guys in there, who's thirty one. He was 396 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: on one of the earlier seasons of Love Island. I 397 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: wasn't really familiar with him. And then she gave her 398 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: not interested sash to Kieran. Remember Kieran from a couple 399 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: of seasons ago. He was the Welsh young guy. He's 400 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: very attractive, but he's only twenty three. However, the general 401 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: public actually decided who they should couple up with, and 402 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: they decided to put her with Kieran. And she's like, oh, 403 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: of course, because for those not familiar with Millie's story, 404 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: she dated Lim off Love Island for four years and 405 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: he was quite a lot younger than her and of 406 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: course Welsh, so people are like, oh, that must be 407 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: her type. But she's like, no, I want to date 408 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: someone older. The whole reason I've broken up with Lim 409 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: is because he was too young. Yeah, and also he's 410 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: a hell of a lot younger. Isn't really MILLI thirty? Yeah, 411 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: she's turning thirty this year. And it's so stupid because 412 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: they've put in all these guys in their early time 413 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: when he's in with all these girls that are just 414 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: about to turn thirty, like they clearly want different things. Well, 415 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: that's because everyone's waiting for the bombshells to come in. 416 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: We all know that the first six or whatever that 417 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: are put in, some of them have got good personalities. 418 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: We know none of them really actually ever end up together. 419 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: The originals that get put in. It's more than six. 420 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: It's like twelve people, six couples. It's funny because I 421 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: was like, I kind of remember you, I kind of 422 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: remember you. And then this guy called Jack popped up 423 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: on the screen and he's redhead and he's got a 424 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: sleeve of tattoos, and I was like, who are you again? 425 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: Oh that's Ronan keating somen Yeah. So he was in 426 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: Castra Moore. That was it, and they've brought him back 427 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 1: as an all star and I'm like, clearly, because your 428 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: dad's Ronan Keating, they wanted to have another personality. It's 429 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: too early to say, but someone was like, oh, he's 430 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: really got something about him. I'm like, yeah, he's Ronan 431 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: Keating son, Like that's what he's got about him. But 432 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: it's interesting because he dropped when he left Castra Moore 433 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: he found out that the girl he'd been dating previously 434 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: was pregnant. Shit. Yeah, yeah, anyway, So I highly recommend 435 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: getting into Love Island All Stars again this year. It's 436 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: just kind of nice to have something that's easy to watch. 437 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: And I really like watching a show that you know 438 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: has regular episode out. I don't have to think about 439 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna watch when I sit down to dinner. 440 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: I've been watching something a bit different. I want to Dale, 441 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: and I've been watching Catching Malat, which was all about 442 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: oh Ivan Malatt. We realized. I thought it was a 443 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: new thing, but it was made in twenty fifteen. I 444 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: highly recommend it was a great Aussie drama. Well that 445 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: sounds horrible. I actually hate all the true crime stuff, 446 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: like I find it incredibly interesting. I get too scared. 447 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't find myself getting scared. I mean, 448 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: I think because I know Ivan Mallatt's dead, Yeah, that 449 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: helps me. It was actually awful because sometimes you know 450 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: when you watch a TV show and someone dies in 451 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: it and you can disconnect because you go, oh, that's 452 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: just a story. But the fact that this is real life, 453 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: I think that was the saddest thing. But if you 454 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: like true crime and you haven't seen it, it is 455 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: a good one to watch on Prime. Well that is 456 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: where we're going to leave things today. Thank you so 457 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 1: much for subscribing to Outspoken Plus. We really appreciate the support. 458 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: If you do love the show, we'd really pre sharded 459 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: if you did recommend it to a friend. 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