1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: She's on the Money, She's on the Money. 2 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to another episode of She's on the 3 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: Money's Money Diaries, the money diary from millennials who want 4 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: to be a little bit more pervy. So this week 5 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: we are talking to a dead free side hustler and 6 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 2: Ryan and I HAPPI literally just finished the interview with her, 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: and I could not be more inspired by her story, 8 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: and I'm sure the same is going to be true 9 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 2: for you now. When she sent through an email to 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: be on the show, she actually sent what I would 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 2: call a minor thesis. 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: Well she called it an essay. 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: She called it an essay. It was very, very long. 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: So instead of getting Ryan to read that out for 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: you this week, we are just going to jump straight 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: into an interview and get her to explain her story 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: in her words for you. So let's jump straight in. Friends, 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: I know this is a goodie. 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 4: Do you want to describe your family's attitude to money 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 4: and what you learned about money growing up? 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 5: Money was never a topic growing up. I just knew 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 5: we never had much money. I know when I was younger. 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 5: I'm the oldest, so when I was younger, I know 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 5: we had like a lot of money issues, and I 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 5: just remember that from like occasionally we had to get 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 5: food boxes from like the Selbos or you know that 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 5: sort of stuff, the Red Cross whatever it is. And yeah, 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 5: my parents were like never great with money. They never 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 5: talked about it. But essentially I just had no money education. 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: I just knew we didn't have much money, and I 31 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 5: had no idea about money. 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: So with that background, if we fast forward a few 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: years to the point where I believe your partner lost 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: his job and all of a sudden, you guys end 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: up in a whole bunch of debt. 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: Tell me about where you were. 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 6: Oh, it was extremely stressful. 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 5: We were fairly new into a relationship, and it was 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 5: extremely daunting having to take on that stress of obviously 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 5: my partner losing his job and then him having to 41 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 5: sell his apartment because he couldn't cover the mortgage anymore. 42 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 5: I was also severely in debt myself for very stupid reasons. 43 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 3: And how old are you at this stage? 44 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 5: Back then, I was like twenty one two. Yeah, yeah, 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 5: my partner is a couple of years older. But it 46 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 5: was there was about three or four years there that 47 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 5: were like extremely stressful with money, and all we did 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 5: was argue about money, and it was a really hard time. 49 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, so we know now that you found you know, 50 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: the debt free community and you've really changed you around. 51 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 4: Can you remember this one moment where you thought that's it, 52 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: I'm going to go pick up a book, or I'm done, 53 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: or I needed. Something's got to give, something's got to change. 54 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 4: What was the yeah, that final straw? 55 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: I guess. 56 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 5: I think I was in quite a positive headspace with 57 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 5: money for a little while, like in terms of wanting 58 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 5: to do better with money, but we just couldn't cut it, 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 5: like couldn't cut a brake. And then eventually when we 60 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 5: did get our break, which was my partner finding full 61 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 5: time work again and we moved States, that was the 62 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 5: moment where I was like, Okay, let's get our butts 63 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 5: into gear. We've been given this sort of ticket to 64 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 5: get ourselves out of trouble financially, so I like, we 65 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 5: might as well grab it by the horns and really 66 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 5: focus on getting out of debt and getting ourselves back 67 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 5: into a better financial situation because for years we had 68 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 5: struggled with you know, not being able to do social 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 5: things like obviously like defaulting on our credit reports. Yeah, 70 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 5: like pretty much everything that was bad happened to us 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: with money. 72 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 6: So yeah, and. 73 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: What was your first sort of point of call in 74 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: terms of, you know, teaching yourself stuff. You said that 75 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 4: you'd recently found our podcast and you've binged it. 76 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: But what else did you. 77 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: Find, either in terms of you know, education or just 78 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 4: online communities. What were the things that you found that 79 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: were quite helpful? 80 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: So I think my first introduction. 81 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 5: To it all was I don't know, I think maybe 82 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: just doing some googling, and then I found through Instagram 83 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 5: a lot of like budget accounts and debt free accounts, 84 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 5: and I was like, whoa, this is cool, Like there's 85 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 5: a whole little society and yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't 86 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 5: know existed. And so firstly I was like using that 87 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 5: for tips and like using people's budgeting templates and that 88 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 5: sort of stuff. 89 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 6: And then from there it kind of through. 90 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 5: There was a couple of people who, you know, as 91 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 5: you'd know within that community, there's a few like cult following, 92 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 5: you know, with people that have done different totally different 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 5: YouTube channels and that sort of stuff. So I just 94 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 5: sort of kept reading and watching, and what started within 95 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 5: the Instagram community really grew into a massive passion for 96 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 5: me and just wanting to learn and consume as much 97 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 5: knowledge as possible about money. So cool. 98 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, so like. 99 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: Not going through it, but that's so cool that you've 100 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: gone through this journey and I can feel it in 101 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: your voice that you're speaking so honestly about it. And 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: one of the questions that I have that I think 103 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: is really important to bring up here actually, and it's 104 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: not related to my usual interview money dire questions, but 105 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: throughout that period, how was your mental health? 106 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 6: Oh? So bad. 107 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 5: I'm quite open and honest about my mental health issues. 108 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 5: I've struggled with depression anxiety for a number of years, 109 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 5: and that was definitely amplified during those difficult times when 110 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 5: you're in such a negative place financially, especially because it's 111 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 5: such a taboo topic for people, you know, I think 112 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 5: it really hits some people in the ego and they 113 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 5: feel ashamed to talk about when they're struggling with money. 114 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's really a really negative place to be in, 115 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 5: and I don't think that gets spoken about enough. 116 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 6: It can really destroy people. 117 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And that's just kind of what we're sitting 118 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: in the back of my mind as you were speaking 119 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: through that, because it just compounds mental health. So like 120 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: if you're prone to it, it amplifies it. If you 121 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: you know, haven't had mental health issues before and now 122 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 2: you're going through pretty significant financial you know, disadvantage, you 123 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: start to develop these you know, mental health issues, and 124 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: it just is not fair, Like, and I think that 125 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: we don't talk about it enough. We don't talk about 126 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: the relationship between money and mental health nearly enough. And 127 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: I think that's something that with Shees on the Money, 128 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: we're always talking about and trying to get people to 129 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: see that these things are so closely related. And if 130 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: you can sort money out in someone's family, you can 131 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: have such a big impact. It's not just about putting 132 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: food on the table, albeit that's so important. It's about 133 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: mental health, the mental health of your kids, the relationships 134 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: you have, the way you interact in those relationships every 135 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: single day is impacted by your money story. And it 136 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: just so powerful. 137 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. And that's the thing, Like, when 138 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 5: it comes down to like the basics, you really can't 139 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 5: survive without money, Like, and especially in this day and age, 140 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 5: like everything is based around money and what you can afford, 141 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 5: and if you're drowning in debt, and all that sort 142 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 5: of stuff. 143 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 6: So, yeah, I think it's so. 144 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 5: Important having a good money and mental health balance because 145 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 5: they both affect each other absolutely. 146 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: So you eventually start paying off this debt, you get 147 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: back to you know, almost even, and tell me about 148 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: and this is where it starts getting fun. 149 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: And I was like, this sounds so cool. 150 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 4: You're pregnant with the child and you know you become parents, 151 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: but you decide, nah, that doesn't mean I'm not going 152 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: to keep working, so you start snooping around on Air Tasker, 153 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: So tell me about that. 154 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 5: Yes, So when I we just we got out of 155 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 5: debt a month after our son was born. 156 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 6: That was like our goal of wanting to have a baby. 157 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, how good is that? 158 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: How good? 159 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 5: I'm in my late thirties and we've sort of made 160 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 5: that decision of no, we want we want to have 161 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 5: a baby sooner than later, so we'll like, let's get 162 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 5: pregnant and then pay off our debt. And thank god 163 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 5: we got it done. Anyway, Yes, Air Tasker. When I 164 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: went on maternity leave, I was at home. This was 165 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 5: before like payments start and stuff like that. I were 166 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 5: sitting at home all the time, heavily pregnant, and I'm like, 167 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 5: I surely there's something I can do with my time 168 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 5: besides watching trash TV every day. 169 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: So just for. 170 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 4: People that don't know, can you just quickly in a 171 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 4: sentence just describe what air tasker is in general if 172 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 4: people haven't. 173 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: Heard of it. 174 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 5: So, air Tasker is essentially an online platform. 175 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 6: Where you can. 176 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 5: Offer your services or request other people's services, and then 177 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 5: you kind of like bargain with other people and then 178 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 5: people select you or you select people based off you know, 179 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 5: experience their offer, that sort of stuff reviews. So yeah, 180 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 5: air Tasker, I was working as someone offering my services. 181 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: And what were you offering? 182 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 5: I was offering. I've got a history in like design 183 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 5: and stuff like that. I never worked professionally in design. 184 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 5: It's what I wanted to do when I graduated from school, 185 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 5: but I flunked and. 186 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 6: Never did it. But I started offering graphic. 187 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 5: Design services and like online administration services so like transcribing 188 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 5: data entry, that sort of stuff. 189 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 6: Yep. 190 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, And there is really no job too small for 191 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 4: air task stuff like smart I've seen stuff that it's like, oh, 192 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 4: I've got a word document, can you like save it 193 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 4: to a pea? 194 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: That like really small obsw stuff like that. People like 195 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: I don't know how to do it, I'll pay you 196 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: four dollars. I've got one hundred of them. 197 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 6: You're like, okay, I one of those jobs before. 198 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 5: It's like they just don't have the program or the 199 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 5: knowledge to do it, and they'll pay you twenty bucks 200 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 5: to do it. 201 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: What shocks me most about that is they've had the 202 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: technology ability to download the app and post it. Yeah, 203 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: pick it out task, but they can't just go file 204 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: say that as Adobe. 205 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it. 206 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to just not share how to though, because 207 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 2: I want to keep you in the job, my friends. 208 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can make a really good YouTube video, Victoria. 209 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 4: That's just here's how to save a document to a PDF, 210 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 4: and you would wipe out a whole industry. 211 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 6: Sorry, please do not. 212 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: So what kind of money can you earn? 213 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: Obviously it's you know, the more hours you spend, the 214 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 4: more you can get. But how much were you sort 215 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: of earning? Keeping in mind, you know you are pregnant 216 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 4: and trying to keep some kind of calm in your life. 217 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 6: So it's important to know that air tasker do take 218 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 6: out a feed? 219 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: Oh what's that fee? 220 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 5: So say, if someone wants to pay you to do 221 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 5: a graphic design job for one hundred dollars, and you 222 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 5: accept that one hundred dollar job, you may only get 223 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 5: paid like eighty dollars because Air Tasker will take a fee. 224 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 6: Oh wow, yeah that's an estimate. An estimate. 225 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 5: It may not be that exactly, but yeah, at the start, 226 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 5: I wasn't making much money because you kind of have 227 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 5: to build up you know, like a profile and examples 228 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 5: and reviews and you know, star ratings and stuff. But 229 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 5: I think within that financial year, I think I made 230 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 5: maybe like three grand on air Tasker. 231 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: That's pretty good for sitting at home watching trash tea 232 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: and waiting to have a baby. 233 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 5: I okay, yes, yeah that's it. Yeah, so it's it's 234 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 5: a good little earner. But I think the important thing 235 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 5: is Air Tasker led me to doing what I currently. 236 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 6: Do, which is what my friend I now. 237 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 5: Work as a freelance designer for a design studio in Brisbane. 238 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, how cool you use the word flunk Before, 239 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: like in high school, I wanted to do this. 240 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: Now now you're like, and you're not employed doing it. 241 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: You're a freelance and doing it so you've got your 242 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: own hustle. 243 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 6: What how cool is that? 244 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: So you've gone from being like, oh I love this. 245 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: I cannot tell you how excited I am about your 246 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: money story. So you've gone from just having like not 247 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: great attitude towards money, not really learning about it growing up, 248 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: you know, being in some pretty significant debt, having super 249 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 2: stressful years, to being like a kid lass mum who 250 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: is debt free and runs your own truck. 251 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 6: That's it. 252 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: If that's not inspiring, I I don't know what it is. 253 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, And then I've still I've got a couple of 254 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 5: other side hustles there as well. 255 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: Of course she does what are they? 256 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 5: So I've got the freelance job. Then I also do 257 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 5: a because my backgrounds in cleaning. I worked in housekeeping 258 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 5: for like ten years up until I had my baby, 259 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 5: and I now do a local clean for an airbnb 260 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 5: for a local mum. So that's anywhere from like three 261 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 5: times a week to a couple of times a month, 262 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 5: which is just a little bit of extra pocket money. 263 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 5: And then I also do reselling at markets, So I 264 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: do seasonal markets where I resell old clothes of mine 265 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 5: or like really cool vintage lines that I pick up. 266 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 5: That's another little earner. 267 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so, and what's your attitude with having a consistent 268 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: income versus, you know, keeping it a bit varied and 269 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: having different things on the go, Because does that make 270 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: it mentally stressful or maybe it's mentally stimulating because you're 271 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: doing lots of different things and going to different places. 272 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: Where do you find the balance of those? 273 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 5: I think because I'm not solely relying on this on 274 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 5: my income to get us by, Like, it's important to 275 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 5: note my partner does work in construction and he sits 276 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 5: on a salary. 277 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 6: I think he's in a fourth year apprentice now, so. 278 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 5: His salary is around maybe seven year eighty thousand, So 279 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 5: that's still a consistent income for us. So yeah, my 280 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 5: varied freelancing, soul tradeer work is more so just pocket 281 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 5: money and extra savings. 282 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: And I know the answer to this because you told 283 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: me in the email. But for Victoria, you went from 284 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 4: being in debt and paying the debt off and then 285 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 4: I believe any extra money you made from this kind 286 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: of stuff you saved and started investing. 287 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: Where were you at at the moment? 288 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I thoughtfolios. I think maybe just under twenty 289 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 6: thousand dollars my gosh, yes, yeah, oh, good. 290 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: I want to get a little bit paid. So you 291 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: mentioned your partner's income before. What are you earning at 292 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: the moment? 293 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 5: I my estimate for this financial year is probably around 294 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 5: thirty thousand. It's not huge, but a portion of that 295 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 5: is also job keeper. So I was very, very lucky 296 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 5: when COVID hit that because I was still employed with 297 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 5: my previous employers, I did get job keeper on the 298 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 5: part time basis scale. 299 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: That is awesome. Yeah, you're saying like that's not as good, 300 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: but that is epic given how much you've managed to 301 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: save and invest, like that is such an accomplishment. Like 302 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: I'm just looking at this going wow, Like I have 303 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: so many questions between you and your partner. How much 304 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: money sitting in your bank account right now? 305 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 5: We have twenty seven thousand in our house was it fund? 306 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 5: I've got five hundred in my business account. We've got 307 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 5: roughly a thousand within our saving spending account sorry our 308 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 5: spending's accounts. Oh, we've got our emergency fund, but it's 309 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 5: depleted at the moment, which. 310 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: Kind of makes sense given the current economic crisis, which 311 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: is nice. And how do you how do you feel 312 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: when making decisions around money nowadays? Like having been through 313 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: such a stressful time, especially during COVID. How did that 314 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: make you, guys feel? 315 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 5: It sounds funny, but like whenever we get paid every 316 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 5: week and I'm like moving all of our money around 317 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: our accounts, I kind of feel empowered because it's not. 318 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, totally feel that. 319 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 5: I don't have to sit down in front of a 320 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 5: spreadsheet anymore, where I'm like really looking into how we're 321 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 5: budgeting and like where the bills are getting paid, and 322 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 5: like what we might have to push back and that 323 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 5: sort of stuff. Like now I can just sit down 324 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 5: and go, Okay, we pay the same amount into every 325 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 5: single account every single week, same amount for bills comes 326 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 5: out every single week, and like it just feels really good. 327 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,359 Speaker 2: I love that. You must be so proud of yourself. 328 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of like, I'm kind of yeah. 329 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: We'll have more questions with our money. Diris coming up next. 330 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: What other money habits do you have that. 331 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 5: You're especially proud of the fact that I think our 332 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 5: finances are so streamlined and we don't have to think 333 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 5: about it much anymore. 334 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 6: I'm also pretty good. I go through phases. 335 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 5: I've got to admit sometimes like some days a wake 336 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 5: up and I'll be like, all right, I'm going to 337 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 5: Target and I'm probably just going to spend one hundred 338 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 5: bucks at Target. 339 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 6: But we have we have, yeah, everybody. 340 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 5: But I feel like I'm very good at putting time 341 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 5: between my purchases. 342 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm also. 343 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 5: Is it Jessica that's the one that thinks she can 344 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 5: manifest anything in face? 345 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: But that's yess that is actually. 346 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 5: I'm one hundred percent on that. 347 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm really blameless. 348 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: To me, what you just imagine something's going to appear. 349 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: On but you're not listening to her. 350 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: You were on the show. 351 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 4: But I want to hear someone else say this, because 352 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: when I heard it, I was like, this sounds like 353 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 4: something just is. 354 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 2: Just made up of No, jess didn't make it up. 355 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: It's a thing money direct, tell it back to me. 356 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 6: Manifesting. Manifesting is one hundred percent a thing. 357 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 5: Like to give you an example, I had to set 358 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 5: up like a little home business like home study for 359 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 5: myself a few weeks ago. I ended up getting a 360 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 5: free desk, a free desk chair. I got a brand 361 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 5: new computer monitor for like eighty dollars and it was 362 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 5: like three. 363 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 6: Hundred and fifty. 364 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 5: I think, so, yeah, you just got to manifest put 365 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 5: those vibes out there. 366 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 4: So we talked about earning extra bits of money from 367 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 4: all the different side hustles and air task of stuff. 368 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 4: Do you think also not earning more but spending less 369 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 4: by doing this and the manifesting and finding those little bargains, 370 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: that's just as big as contributor as the earning has 371 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 4: been to get where you are. 372 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 5: One hundred percent, Like for us, where you didn't get 373 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 5: out of debt by earning a high income. We got 374 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 5: out of debt by spending less, budgeting better and like, yeah, 375 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 5: trying to hustle and find like cheaper goods and stuff 376 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 5: like that. 377 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: Can I just put an exclamation mark right here because 378 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: we know and from Victoria's there's a lot of people 379 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 4: that earn a lot of money and are broke, and 380 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that don't earn that much, 381 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 4: you know, in inverted commas, but are really savvy and 382 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 4: they're smart with it, and they're by far better off 383 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 4: than the people with the high income. So if a 384 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 4: lot of people are in a bit of a tough 385 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: spot or they think, oh, my industry doesn't actually pay 386 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 4: that well, well, I mean sure in theory it helps 387 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 4: to earn a lot more, but it's not actually a 388 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 4: huge factor. 389 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: It is genuinely what you do with it. 390 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolute, it's not what you make. It's what you're 391 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: contributing towards debt reduction and all of the other things 392 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: around it. And there are so many people in our 393 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: community at the moment that are in the position that 394 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: you were a couple of years ago, and it's so 395 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: hard to see the light at the end of the 396 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 2: tunnel when you are in it, like when you're in 397 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: the trenches and you just wake up every day and 398 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: remember that that's the situation, and it just feels all overwhelming. 399 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: So to past you and to our community members who 400 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: are currently in this situation, what would you say to them? 401 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 6: Just like, stick to your guns. 402 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 5: I feel like if you're on a lower income, like 403 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 5: I've worked in housekeeping for ten years, that's not a 404 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 5: high income, it might take longer, but you just have 405 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 5: to persevere. Because I constantly got stuck in that trap 406 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 5: of I'm not getting anywhere with paying this debt off, 407 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 5: and then I'd create more debt because I'd give in 408 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 5: on myself. So yeah, I think it's just, yeah, you 409 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 5: really got to persevere. Yeah, absolutely, It just takes a 410 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 5: little bit of a longer time, but you'll get there, 411 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 5: and once you get there, it's like you won't even 412 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 5: know yourself once you get there. 413 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: What is the one thing that you wish you'd found 414 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: earlier in this journey that could have helped you. Is 415 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: it a budgeting tool? Is it just believing in yourself? 416 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: Is it, you know, air tasker? Like, what's the one 417 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: thing you wish you know, when you were really in 418 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: the trenches of it, you wish you had. 419 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 6: It goes back even further than that. 420 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 5: I wish that like I got taught about money and 421 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 5: handling money when I was in school, Like that's what 422 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 5: it comes down to, I think, or even when I 423 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 5: freshly got out of school, like I just wish that 424 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 5: somebody grabbed me and was like, stop getting credit cards, 425 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 5: stop getting personal loans. But I think it's just I 426 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 5: don't think it's any particular thing. I just think it's 427 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 5: overall money, literacy, and education, because I feel like if 428 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 5: you have that education and understanding, you're less likely to 429 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 5: get yourself in like precarious situations with money. 430 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. I absolutely couldn't agree more. And 431 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 2: hopefully with where she's on the money is going, we 432 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: will find our way and weasel our way into the 433 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: education system somehow. I'm putting it out to the universe, 434 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: my friend. Yeah, I'm going to manifest it. Yes, So 435 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: what are you currently saving for? What are your big 436 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 2: money goals? You mentioned before you had a home deposit account. 437 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: What are we looking forward to in the future. 438 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, so our semi short term goal, I guess with 439 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 5: the house, we want to get a twenty percent deposit 440 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 5: for that, and we're hoping to get that within the 441 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 5: next two years or so. 442 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 6: For me personally, my biggest. 443 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 5: Goal, and this has been since the start, is creating 444 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 5: a passive income through my investments. So I want to 445 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 5: eventually one day be living off my dividends and stuff 446 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 5: like that. So that's like for me, that's more important than. 447 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: How So absolutely sounds like you are well. 448 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: Sounds familiar. 449 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know who else would have that goal. 450 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: So how would you rate yourself if I forced you 451 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: to give yourself a financial rating? 452 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 5: I feel like from where I've come to where we 453 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 5: are now, I would say in A I honestly think 454 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 5: the only thing holding me back from an A plus 455 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 5: is the fact that I am a little bit of 456 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 5: a gambler and sometimes I do take riskier options with 457 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 5: investing and stuff like that. 458 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: But so, do you mean gambling in terms of risky 459 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 4: investments or do you mean on the dogs? 460 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 6: I didn't bow. 461 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: Fair. 462 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 5: It's yeah, it's probably the same with shopping and that 463 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 5: sort of stuff. 464 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 6: Like. 465 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 5: I feel like sometimes I can be a little bit 466 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 5: irresponsible with money, and that's just an old habit I think. 467 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 5: But yeah, I feel like an a because I'm constantly 468 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 5: wanting to learn more and constantly wanting to set myself 469 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 5: and my family up for a better future. 470 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 6: So and I'm just so passionate about money. 471 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 2: So yeah, that is such a nice way to wrap it, 472 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: and I would absolutely agree with the A for yourself. Well, 473 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: thank you, so thanks so much for having a chat 474 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: with us today. I'm honestly so grateful to get this 475 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: story out there, and I know that there are going 476 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: to be so many people listening who are going to 477 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: be so inspired by your story. And yeah, you're killing 478 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: it and I am so glad that you are here. 479 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 6: Oh, thank you so much. That really means a lot. 480 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: Ryan. 481 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: That was literally one of the most inspiring money diaries 482 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 2: I think we've done today. 483 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: What a legend. 484 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: I actually am so proud of her, even though I 485 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: didn't do it. 486 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: Ye, you're impressed by her. 487 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was very impressed by her. But unfortunately that 488 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: is all we have time for today. But before we 489 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: head off, we'd like to acknowledge and pay respects to 490 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: Australia's Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people's, the traditional custodians 491 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: of the lands, the waterways and the skies all across Australia. 492 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing and for caring on the land 493 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: which we are able to learn. We pay our respects 494 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: to elder's past and present, and we share our friendship 495 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: and our kindness now, friends, the advice shared on She's 496 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 2: on the Money is always general in nature and it 497 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: doesn't ever actually consider your personal circumstances. I am really 498 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: sorry about that. She's on the Money exists purely for 499 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make 500 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 2: an investment or a financial decision. Now, I am still 501 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: actually an authorized representative of Australia Pacific Funds Management Proprietary 502 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: Limited ABN three four one three two four six three 503 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: two five seven AFSL three three nine one five one, 504 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: and as always, thank you so much to our producer 505 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: angels Beck and Ryan for pulling this all together. 506 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: If you yourself think you've got a great money diary 507 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: or money story to share, feel free to send me 508 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 4: an email Ryan dot John at She's on the money 509 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 4: dot com dotu. And I know a lot of people 510 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 4: love to share their great news, which is excellent, But 511 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 4: don't feel like you have to have finished your story. 512 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: You might be in the middle of the train wreck 513 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 3: right now. I would love that. 514 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 2: I would love to hear it. Like I don't love 515 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 2: that you're there, but I want to be a part 516 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 2: of that journey. And maybe we've got some tips or 517 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 2: tricks or you could inspire someone who's going through that 518 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: to know that they're not alone. 519 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of people message and say i'd 520 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 4: be great to hear some different pieces. And as you 521 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 4: can understand, people, you don't really want to shout from 522 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 4: the rooftops and you're in if you're in a bad spot, 523 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 4: but if you sort of flick the mindset and go, hey, 524 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 4: maybe these guys can help and get some advice. Maybe 525 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 4: people in a similar situation feel free to reach out. 526 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: And we'd love to have a chat so Ryan dot 527 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 4: John at She's on the money dot com dot are you. Also, 528 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: if you haven't already, check out the Facebook group there's 529 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 4: now one hundred. 530 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: And forty thousand people there. 531 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 4: Or jump on our Instagram as well. There's heaps of 532 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 4: great tips and stuff there as well. 533 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 3: Have a great weekend run. We'll chat to you on Wednesday, 534 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 3: so you were Wednesday. 535 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: Bye,