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Speaker 1: We know that there have been some concerns raised well.

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Speaker 1: Darlin City councilors told us that he's been inundated with concerns,

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Speaker 1: in fact by residents in public housing after trying to

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Speaker 1: assist an eighty three year old resident of Malak who

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Speaker 1: feel their concerns are falling on deafy is so after

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Speaker 1: more than a decade of living in a quiet cul

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Speaker 1: de sac, some bad neighbors moved in, with drunken fighting,

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Speaker 1: yelling and all sorts of chaos happening every night. Joining

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Speaker 1: us on the line to tell us a little bit

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Speaker 1: more about the situation. Waters Ward Counselor Brian o' gallagher,

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Speaker 1: Good morning Brian.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Cody, and good morning to your listeners. And

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Speaker 2: can I just say at the start on speaking personally

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Speaker 2: as an individual counselor not on the council itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, fair enough, And that's really your role, you know,

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Speaker 1: to raise those concerns that are being raised with you.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what has this eighty three year old told

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Speaker 1: you about their neighbor situation.

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Speaker 2: Look, he's told me the same as many others and

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Speaker 2: it's really a cry for help and leads a cry

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Speaker 2: from help from existing and well deserving senior citizens. A

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Speaker 2: lot of people actually living in public housing. They're doing

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Speaker 2: the right thing, but they've been overwhelmed by what's happening

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Speaker 2: by some of their neighbors and they're scared. And as

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Speaker 2: you said, I'm just having a look at what he

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Speaker 2: has said. You mentioned that we have to put up

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Speaker 2: with drunken fighting, yelling and screaming every night, never ending,

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Speaker 2: taxis tooting horns, ambulance at police every morning. He has

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Speaker 2: to go out and clean up the empty bottles and rubbish,

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Speaker 2: but they just fill on the ground. And this is

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Speaker 2: a real sad bit and I have no jo in

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Speaker 2: saying this. Last month a woman three doors down was raped.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, away fishing and camping for a few

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Speaker 2: days and lead my wife to Alan. Now that's not good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brian, is that something that's something that the

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Speaker 1: police are investigating. It's obviously been reported to the police.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I've got to get more details and I'm

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Speaker 2: going to do a pull up visit with the gentleman

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Speaker 2: next week. He's just heading off for a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: So that he's basically like he's saying, yeah, and he's

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Speaker 1: saying he's concerned about leaving his wife. Yeah local, Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: because look at a it's a it's a huge accusation

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Speaker 1: to make, if you know. And I'm assuming that it

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Speaker 1: has been reported to the Northern Territory Police, but I

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Speaker 1: guess what he's saying is that he does not feel

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Speaker 1: safe leaving his wife at home.

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Speaker 2: And look, Katie, can I just give a couple of

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Speaker 2: quotes extracts from other people, because it's not just him

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Speaker 2: and that's the problem. This is a crime for help.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not going to read it all out, but

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Speaker 2: just snapshots of it. He's a lady in my leg.

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Speaker 2: It's such a shame because we all know how lovely

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Speaker 2: it can be. It's just got worse and worse. I'm

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Speaker 2: sick of picking up bottles and cut cands for sniffing

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Speaker 2: and bonds, even needles. Then she goes on and she's

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Speaker 2: a long term resident. I have seen more depths, rapes, assaults, violence,

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Speaker 2: theft and this instructure in this street in the past

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Speaker 2: five years. And I've seen in my entire thirty three

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Speaker 2: years and now now that is really not satisfactory way.

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Speaker 2: And she dealt this so away, and then she goes

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Speaker 2: on and a little bit of a joke at the end. Seriously,

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Speaker 2: I may as well have a sign up all welcome,

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Speaker 2: please come sleep on my granda. Still my things have

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Speaker 2: a language. Shit on my lawn. Leave your bottles and

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Speaker 2: cans and bonds and whatever, no charge, have a good night.

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Speaker 2: So you can see the frustration, and it's going on

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Speaker 2: and on and we need to deal with it, and

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Speaker 2: we need to deal with it now.

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Speaker 1: It's it is really very difficult, you know, for people

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Speaker 1: living in that area when something like you know, when

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Speaker 1: someone moves in and in the street and they're not behaving.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, by the sounds of it, it's turned

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Speaker 1: into a horrendous situation for them.

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Speaker 2: It is it is, And he's another one. Looks only

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Speaker 2: happen on Mondays. Yeah, thirty pm. They go on saying,

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Speaker 2: screaming and shouting at this particular court up in Karma.

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Speaker 2: So they am parked outside smash window. The lady goes on,

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Speaker 2: I feel very unsafe and stressed. I'm angry that there

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Speaker 2: are many people waiting for a house and yet repeat

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Speaker 2: offenders like this get to hold onto their housing house.

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Speaker 2: It's unjust. Everyone seems to be pussy footing why And

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Why Brian, you said that you are going to be

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Speaker 1: raising this with the local member with Nari r Kish.

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Speaker 1: I know it's not the first time that we've spoken

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Speaker 1: to you about issues in that area and certainly in

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Speaker 1: that ward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I do I take residence up because

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Speaker 2: let's be fair, I'm a counselor. The council doesn't have

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Speaker 2: responsibility for policing. We don't have responsibility for territory families,

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Speaker 2: we don't have responsibility for territory housing. The local is

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Speaker 2: now the Minister of the Territory Family and the Minister

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Speaker 2: of the Territory Housing. So you know I will be

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Speaker 2: urging her to take action now. And you don't need

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Speaker 2: to have new legislation. You don't have to do there,

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Speaker 2: I say another review. What you have to do is

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Speaker 2: just enforce the current rules. And I've said this to

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Speaker 2: you before, Cody. I've got a four point planned. I'm

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Speaker 2: all for public housing. I'm all for public housing, but

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Speaker 2: there's responsibility that goes with it, and there is an

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Speaker 2: eight year waiting list. So if you're going to use

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Speaker 2: a public housing for drug dealing, I'm sorry, you're out.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to vandalize the house. You know, eighty thousands,

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Speaker 2: you're out. And if you're going to continually disturb the

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Speaker 2: neighborhood night in, night out, throwing bottles, doing all that stuff,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. You're out and you go to the back

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Speaker 2: of que if you're lucky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, Brian, that done.

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Speaker 2: That could be done on the current rules.

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Speaker 1: Look, it just no. And this is the thing I

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Speaker 1: think that people are finding really frustrating at the moment.

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Speaker 1: See you know, dare I say it, and I know

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Speaker 1: that people go, oh, come on, wolfy, But there just

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be a consequence. That's the whole concern

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Speaker 1: that people have got at the moment. You know, you

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Speaker 1: can misbehave, whether it's in a public housing residence, whether

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Speaker 1: it's you know, when you're talking about crime, people feel

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Speaker 1: as old, whether it's right or wrong. They feel like

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Speaker 1: there isn't a consequence.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. They feel lost, they feel unheard,

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Speaker 2: they haven't got a voice, No one's listening to them.

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Speaker 2: People pretend it's not happening. They report it to the

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Speaker 2: police twenty five times a month. Nothing seems to happen.

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Speaker 2: And you can understand their frustration. But you know, my

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Speaker 2: focus and I've been saying this for years. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to focus. I think we're going to focus on community safety.

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Speaker 2: We're going to put residents and victims first, because currently

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Speaker 2: they feel their last and I will be allowed voice

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Speaker 2: and continue to be allowed voice for these residents.

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Speaker 1: Well, Brian, I really appreciate you talking to us this morning.

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Speaker 1: I hope that by speaking, you know, publicly about it,

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Speaker 1: it makes so kind of difference. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: it will, but look, well, you know, we'll do our

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Speaker 1: best to make sure that we hear what locals are saying,

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Speaker 1: and I'm certainly hearing it very loudly and clear. People

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Speaker 1: have had enough, and.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie. I think your program is doing a

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Speaker 2: great job. But here's the suggestion for you in the future,

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Speaker 2: maybe you hold a broadcast up around crama shops. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'll try and get these people come and talk to

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Speaker 2: you directly, not by me, and see if they're willing

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Speaker 2: to share their stories, because I think hearing directly from

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Speaker 2: people is you know, there's nothing better. Well, I think

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Speaker 2: you're doing a great job in it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, I appreciate it. Look, we'll talk again soon, Brian.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time and no doubt we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and stay safe and stay safe for all ourisms.

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Speaker 1: Thank you,