1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Tuesday, 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: the fifteenth of June. My name is Sam Kazlowski, and 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: helping me make sense of today's news is Zara Assignler. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Making news today, GPS to vaccinate. 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: Billi Wella family developments, some. 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Good news about a speedy swimmer, and. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: A chat about Friendly Jordan's. Here's today's daily digest. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: We'll start off with some COVID nineteen news and in 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: a bid to fast track the vaccine rollout, GPS have 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: been given approval to vaccinate elderly Australians or people with 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: the disability at their homes or in aged care facilities. Yesterday, 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt said all age care facilities 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: had now received a first dose visit and ninety four 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: percent of facilities had received second dose visits. 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: We uploaded a story about this yesterday and we are 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: hearing reports that its possible decision on the fate of 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: the Billiwella family could be made as early as today. 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: Over the weekend we had some coalition MP so, some 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: Liberal MPs come out in support of the family. They 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: were Trent Zimmerman, Katie Allen, Jason Felinsky and Ken Dowd, 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: and that was significant because it was a departure from 22 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 2: the government's usual stance on this issue. Yesterday, Acting Prime 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 2: Minister Michael McCormack said that any decision will be based 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: on humanitarian considerations, on health outcomes and on legal advice. 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: We're going to be talking about this later in the 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: podcast in more depth. But a Friendly Jordie's producer has 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: been arrested for allegedly stalking and intimidating New South Wales 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Deputy Premier John Barrellaro. The producer's name is Christo Langer 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: and he's been charged with two counts of stalking and 30 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: intimidating with intent to cause fear or physical harm. Now 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: Langa's been granted bail and this comes admit an ongoing 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: defamation case brought on by the Deputy Premier against Friendly Jordie's. 33 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: To some good news, Australian swimmer Kaylee mckehon has broken 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: the one hundred meters backstroke world record at the Olympic 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: Trials with a time of fifty seven point four to 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: five seconds. Sam tells me that McKean's record sets up 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: a highly anticipated competition for the Tokyo Olympics with American 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: swimmer Reagan Smith. She held the previous record of fifty 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: seven point five seven seconds. Here's the moment the world 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: record was broken. New world record, Kaylee mccurran, New Superstar 41 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: fifty seven forty five after the year. 42 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: That they've had, just incredible. 43 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: So there's a youth YouTuber called Friendly Jordie's and anyone 44 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: who is under the age of thirty and interested in 45 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: politics has followed Friendly Jordie's for a long time now. 46 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: He basically tries to make politics accessible, funny, satirical, all 47 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: of that, and recently he's gotten himself in a bit of. 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: Trouble for legal reasons. I have to keep this video 49 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: as straight laced as I possibly can. My name is 50 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: Jordan Shanks, and I'm being sued by John Barillaro, the 51 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 3: Deputy Premier of New South Wales. Up until recently, I've 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: treated this legal problem with the levity it deserves. But 53 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: in all honesty, every move I've made, no matter how 54 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: ridiculous it appeared, has been both legal and considered. Unfortunately, 55 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: the same cannot be said for the Deputy Premier. 56 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: Today, we wanted to take a step back and understand 57 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: how we got to the stage of Friendly Jordis's producer 58 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: getting arrested, but also why he's being sued by Deputy 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: Premier John Barrellaro. Just to give you an understanding of 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: how many young people tune into Friendly Jordie's. He has 61 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: racked up close to half a million YouTube followers and 62 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: each of his videos can get between one hundred and 63 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: eighty to five hundred thousand views. He often interviews politicians, 64 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: usually from the labor side, but he also makes these 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: satirical pieces and that's where he's gotten himself in trouble. 66 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: So here's your quick rundown on the legal battle that's 67 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: ahead of Friendly Jordie's. Deputy Premier of New South Wales 68 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: John Barrellaro, is taking the YouTuber to court over two 69 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: videos published by Friendly Jordie's late last year. The videos 70 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: were titled Bruzz and Secret Dictatorship. John Barillaro has claims 71 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: the videos suggest he's a corrupt con man. That's pretty 72 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: much the flavor of the clips, and there's claims about 73 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: him committing perjury. There's claims about him acting corruptly and 74 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: blackmailing counselors. There's also a whole racism component to these 75 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: defamation proceedings. Friendly Jordie's called Barillaro, who is Italian, a 76 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: conman to the core, powered by spaghetti, and Barrillaro is 77 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: claiming that he's been greatly injured in his personal and 78 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: professional reputation because of this characterization. 79 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: But the legal woes don't stop there. His producer was 80 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 2: arrested following an investigation by the Fixated Persons Unit, and 81 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: that unit traditionally targets terrorists domestically, so it's a pretty 82 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: big deal. There were two alleged incidents of stalking that 83 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: reportedly occurred, one in April at Macquarie University and one 84 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: on June fourth, and the police are alleging that Friendly 85 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: Jordie's producer was stalking and intimidating Barrillaro on both of 86 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: these occasions. The producer has been granted bail, but that's 87 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 2: a conditional bail, so there are a number of things 88 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: that he can't do while on bail. It feels to 89 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: me like we are having more conversations about defamation than 90 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: we ever have before, and I saw a Guardian article 91 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: about why that is why we are seeing so many 92 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: defamation cases, especially high profile ones taking place. 93 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: What do you think, Sam It actually makes me think 94 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: of a line that was said by our guest on 95 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: yesterday's podcast, Anthony Russo from the FBI, when he was 96 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: talking about the trade offs between free speech and security. 97 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: And obviously here there's not security at stake. It's more 98 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: about reputation and about how we're viewed in the media. 99 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: But it's the same sort of debate. It's about how 100 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: much are we willing to give up of our free 101 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: speech and liberty in exchange for the ability for us 102 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: to know that nothing published about us can be false 103 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: and damaging to our reputation. In terms of the Friendly 104 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: Jordie's case in front of us, Friendly Jordie's is a 105 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: satirical performer, just like the Chaser's Warren everything, just like 106 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, a stand up comedian at a club. And 107 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: that's where defamation law can get a bit tricky, when 108 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: Friendly Jordie's can take the stand and say, well, it 109 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: was all meant in jest. But the other thing to 110 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: remember about Friendly Jordie's is that he claims he's a journalist, 111 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: and that's actually evidenced in apparently the defense he's going 112 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: to take in this case, which is truth. And we've 113 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: discussed the truth defense before. Now this is just based 114 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: on reports. Nothing has been confirmed and we haven't seen 115 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: the defense. But if the reports are true, it looks 116 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: like Friendly Jordie's will be arguing that the claims he 117 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: makes about John Barrello are based in fact. If that's 118 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: the case, we have a really interesting court case ahead 119 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: of us. 120 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: But just to clarify and not to harp on about 121 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: these claims that Barrellaro says are racist. But he said 122 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: something like powered by spaghetti, it's very difficult to claim 123 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: that that is truthful. 124 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm not part of the Friendly Jordie's legal team, so 125 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't really know their strategy, but it would appear 126 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: to me that because that is just so indefensible under 127 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: the category of a truth defense, they'd likely con see 128 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: that some of those racist, more ludicrous statements are damaging, 129 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: but try and argue that it was seen in the 130 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: context of a joke video and didn't cause the Deputy 131 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: Premier any material harm in terms of his reputation. So 132 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: we haven't seen the court documents, and it will be 133 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: really interesting to carefully come through them when they come out, 134 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: But it is possible to use some defenses for some 135 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: comments and some defenses for other I'd be very surprised 136 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: if he took a truth defense for the spaghetti comment, 137 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: but we'll have to wait and see. 138 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: Before we go. If you do want to understand a 139 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: bit more about Friendly Jordie's you can watch his videos 140 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: on YouTube. They are divisive, to say the least, but 141 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: he does have some serious support among the younger community 142 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: in Australia. Let us know what you think at the 143 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: Daily OS, but in the meantime, please follow us on Instagram. 144 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: It's wherever one hundred and fifteen thousand Aussies get their 145 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: news every day, and we'd love you to become part 146 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: of our community. Happy Tuesday.