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Speaker 1: Everybody. It's not garden Joy everybody so Jelousymandastra.

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Speaker 2: Just looking at the floor sweepings today. Something we didn't

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Speaker 2: discuss was the controversy at the Taylor Swift concert over

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Speaker 2: in Paris.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fans have been outraged after spotting a baby on

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Speaker 3: the ground at Taylor Swift's Paris show. A photo's emerged

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Speaker 3: of a baby lying on the floor. In the picture,

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Speaker 3: how old is that baby? Looking like six months old something,

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Speaker 3: maybe a bit older, lying on a feathered jacket, at

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Speaker 3: the feet of an adult assumed to be their parent

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Speaker 3: or their guardian. Lots of people have said I would

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Speaker 3: call security if I saw this. This is terrifying. It's

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Speaker 3: on the ground, It looks probably much pretty much in

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Speaker 3: the mosh pit. Yeah, it's hard to comment on other

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Speaker 3: people's parenting, but gee, that looks bad.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever take your babies when they're little to stuff? No?

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Speaker 3: But the world's different now with people say saying her,

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Speaker 3: you know ARJ Barker ask him, you know a woman

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Speaker 3: trying to breastfeed a grizzly baby, not a baby grizzly

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Speaker 3: that would be charming, And he said, look, this isn't

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Speaker 3: really a place for a baby. What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: And there's lots of debate around that. Taking a baby

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Speaker 3: to a Taylor Swift concert and putting it on the floor,

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Speaker 3: keep them in a papoose on your chest or something

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, you take them to a party. I

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Speaker 2: remember taking our little kids to parties and stuff in

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Speaker 2: baby capsules and you put it underneath the dining room

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Speaker 2: table and then you'd.

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Speaker 3: Forget the baby there. See now other parents would be

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Speaker 3: outraged at that. Parenting has become a competitive sport. And

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Speaker 3: the hard thing is you can be photographed to doing anything.

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Speaker 3: Who knows the circumstances around this. People get pinged. Your

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Speaker 3: baby's asleep in the car. You can see the baby

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Speaker 3: in the car seat, and you to stop the car

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Speaker 3: to put petrol in or to go and grab a coffee.

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Speaker 3: You can see you're standing at an outside venue. You

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Speaker 3: can see the baby. People photograph it, and suddenly it's

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Speaker 3: on the front page of the paper. This has happened to.

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Speaker 2: Pair Parance and by law, when you go to a

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Speaker 2: petrol station, you fill your car up with petrol. So

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Speaker 2: you've got two three kids, say, in the backseat of

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Speaker 2: your car, and they're all little under the age of

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Speaker 2: five and they're all asleep. You put fuel in your car,

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Speaker 2: you have to take those kids out of the car

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Speaker 2: into the petrol station and pay for your fuel by law,

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Speaker 2: which is crazy.

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Speaker 3: And drag them across it, you know, the service station, tarmac,

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Speaker 3: all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: I saw that. If I was filling out my car

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Speaker 2: and I saw someone else do that, you assess the situation.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't shame that parent.

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Speaker 3: But that's the hard thing. We're so easy to be

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Speaker 3: shamed now because we're all hyper vigilant because of the

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Speaker 3: stories we see. One persons gets their car car jacked

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Speaker 3: when they're opening the letterbox while they've got a kid

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Speaker 3: in the back of the car, and you think it's

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Speaker 3: going to happen every day because we see that story

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Speaker 3: and we think that's everywhere. But remember what Lee Sales

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Speaker 3: said when we interviewed her about how you come to

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Speaker 3: terms with some of the hard news stories. She said,

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Speaker 3: let's remember their news stories because it's news, it's unusual.

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Speaker 3: Keep it in its context. But we're so terrified now

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Speaker 3: that we're so hyper vigilant and ready to go at

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Speaker 3: everyone else and their parenting as well.

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Speaker 2: But let's go for the asshole carjacker, not the mum

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Speaker 2: that's leaving there.

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Speaker 3: She very good.

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Speaker 2: You know, what's the world. There's not a mum's fault.

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Speaker 2: Don't go and steal a car that's got kids in it.

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Speaker 2: Don't steal a car and just.

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Speaker 3: Stealing someone else's kids. It's hard enough with you.

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Speaker 2: Right, you can take my kids. I remember one time

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Speaker 2: I was picking up my motorbike. I left it at

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Speaker 2: Barried Duboire's place. I can go into the details why

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Speaker 2: I left it buried.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to stay awake, so don't.

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Speaker 2: But there was probably some drinking involved. So what happened.

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Speaker 2: I've got a motorcycle trailer and my daughter at the time,

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Speaker 2: she would have been I reckon about twelve thirteen, and

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Speaker 2: so I've gone along to Bass's place with the car

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Speaker 2: and a motorbike trailer, and bas is there with little

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Speaker 2: Arabella who was ols. The twins now Benny and Arab.

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Speaker 3: They're about to start high school next year, so they're

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Speaker 3: probably eleven or twelve yep.

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Speaker 2: So they were like she was like a tiny, weedy baby,

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Speaker 2: like titsy, weedy little baby. And so I'm pushing a

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Speaker 2: bike up onto the bike trailer and as it's gone

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Speaker 2: up the back wheels, kick the ramp off, and the

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Speaker 2: ramps plumped onto the ground. So now the bike's hanging

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Speaker 2: off the trailer and bads, you know what he's like,

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Speaker 2: can do bads, he's holding his baby, holding his baby.

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Speaker 2: So he puts Arabella down on the ground next to

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Speaker 2: the bike trailer, and he's got jonesy, no worries. And

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Speaker 2: I'm going and I'm yelling out to Romney, who was

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Speaker 2: a teenager, to Romany, for God's sake, pick that child up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 1: I don't pick the.

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Speaker 2: Child up, don't live it near the trailer.

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Speaker 3: You know you know who? I hope doesn't hear this story.

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Speaker 3: Is Arabella's mother.

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Speaker 1: Nearly on.

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Speaker 3: It all ended well, it all ended well, come on,

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Speaker 3: it was ten years ago.

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Speaker 2: Arabella is fine, starting high school. Everything's going to be okay.

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Speaker 3: All take a deep breath.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's summary. If you see something like that,

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Speaker 2: just assess the situation before you start filming it and

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Speaker 2: shaming that person. And if you're an asshole carthief, don't

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Speaker 2: steal a car, go and do something good with your life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and how about we're not so hyper vision and

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Speaker 3: about everyone else's parents.

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Speaker 2: The carthieves, not the mums.

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Speaker 3: Those words are spoken by Brenda Jones.

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Speaker 1: Okay, kis, that's it.

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Speaker 2: What's a day?

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Speaker 1: Combatsmor follow, Johnsy and a man just come home for