1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Mini. We've got arguably the most spoken of guest we've 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: ever had in a studio right now. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 3: Oh Nix's guest calls himself the Barefoot Investor. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: Quite peculiar. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 3: Really. 7 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: I've known him for years now, and every time I've 8 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: seen him he's had his shoes on. He's the author 9 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: of the Only money. 10 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Guard You'll ever need. 11 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 4: He advises buckets, splooge cards and monthly date nights to 12 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 4: discuss your financial plans, something he says he finds. 13 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: Quite the turn on goodness, I think it's turned. 14 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 4: We had an intervention about his idea of romance. 15 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 5: Welcome to the show, the Barefoot Investor himself. Who's wearing 16 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 5: shoes by the way. 17 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: Scott Faye, Yes, we do. 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 5: Good afternoon mate. 19 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 3: So you and your wife just go through ledgers when 20 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: you want to warm things up a little bit. 21 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 6: Well, we actually have a date night first Tuesday of 22 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 6: every month, which coincides with the RBA Interest Trade announcements. 23 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 5: How sexy is that? It just reminds me. But yeah, 24 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 5: so guess you're going rather than a bit of healthy debt? 25 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 5: Does it like you? Just? 26 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 6: Well no, no, that's a turn off for me, turn off, 27 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 6: but actually talking about finance with my wife. 28 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, what's your favorite finance word? Like particular, like rebate? Wow, 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 5: he just took it to a whole level. That can 30 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 5: that can have? 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 6: Look, I think I think dividends is nothing, nothing better 32 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 6: than a passive income coming through. 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 5: About negative gearing, negative. 34 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 6: Gear, negative gear is not for me. That is I'm 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 6: actually going to get out of bed and put my 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 6: pants on. 37 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 5: Wow, pants back. Negative gearing is not good. Wow is 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 5: all right. But but the. 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 6: Barefoot invest the only money guy you'll ever need, actually 40 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 6: became the best selling Aussie book in history. And so 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 6: the question would be what do you think I actually 42 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 6: beat in order to do that? 43 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: So before before we before we have a guess as 44 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: to what beat you? Can we just stop on that 45 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: for a second, yes, because I'd never like, all of 46 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: a sudden, I'm out at parties, yes, and people are drunk. 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 5: What are you guys talking about anyway? We're talking about 48 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: this guy, the Barefoot Investor. You how can you guys 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 5: afford cigarettes? Anyway? 50 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: Oh? 51 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 5: I bought him with my joy card. I'm like, oh 52 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 5: my god. 53 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: By the next wanker that whips out an orange card 54 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: and tells me that they bought something on this thing 55 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: that this boat, and I was like, honestly. 56 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: Who the hell is this? Different parties, but I couldn't 57 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 4: get rid of you. You were you actually get the book. 58 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 4: You're in my family, You're in my relationship. 59 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 6: So you don't have like a crazy uncle that bought 60 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 6: the book for you. 61 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: No, No, I had because my brothers were into it, 62 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: like I just everybody was. 63 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 5: You know, I could not avoid you. 64 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Do you ever think that writing a book about like 65 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: how to just sort out your personal finances in by 66 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: the Way, which, like I've heard it referenced a lot. Yes, 67 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: seems like quite a simple structure was going to be 68 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: not the leviathan that. 69 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 5: It is now. 70 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 6: No, it was in millions of copies. It is crazy, 71 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 6: so you never ever expect that to happen. And when 72 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 6: it sort of took off, it was it was quite strange. 73 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 6: I don't know whether I could do it again, but 74 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 6: I'm really proud that it has worked out. 75 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 5: I actually said to like in the last. 76 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 6: Sort of five minutes before I send it to the publisher, 77 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 6: I'm like, you know what I want to do. I 78 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 6: want to donate ten percent of my royalties to the 79 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 6: Financial Counseling Association. So I'm a financial counselor. If you're 80 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 6: in the one eight one hundred double O seven double 81 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 6: O seven number, which is the National Debt Helpline, you 82 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 6: get to talk to someone like me. 83 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 5: It's all free. It's free help. 84 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 85 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 5: So we basically help. 86 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 6: People like single mums and will try and help in 87 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 6: any way that we can. So I donated ten percent 88 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 6: of my royalties to them, which I'm thinking five hundred 89 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 6: bucks a few thousand copies, and you just propped them. 90 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 6: There's like a gold statue. 91 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 5: Shann Adam. 92 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: We've got the barefoot investor, Scott Pape himself, who is 93 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: in the studio. He's got a brand new show, a 94 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: TV show which is on Foxtel tonight. It's called Scott 95 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: Pape's Money Movement. But look, Scott a somebody who's obviously 96 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: made a living off being incredibly thrifty and very savvy 97 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: with your finances. I mean, well done, congratulations. 98 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: If I'm being totally honest with you, I feel this 99 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: is a little bit like I'm not sure if you've 100 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: seen episode one The Phantom Menace, but the Sith are 101 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: very aware of the fact that Anakin Skywalker is alive 102 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: and well, and you know he's obviously. 103 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 5: Going to be very powerful in the future. It's a 104 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 5: deep reference. 105 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 2: You're very much the Sith right now, and you should 106 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 2: be very aware of. 107 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 5: Woody Whitelaw, who is anakin Skywalker. 108 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: Every dollars a prisoner. 109 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 6: And I'm told that this jumper has got holes in it. 110 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 5: Wow, what are your thoughts on that? As the barefoot investor? 111 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 6: As in the fact that I can see your arm 112 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 6: haircial advice, isn't it's a grooming choice that you've decided 113 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 6: then No, No, I think it's good. 114 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 5: Although no one likes to tight us right. 115 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 6: No, you know you don't want to be that miser 116 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 6: that you go to the pub with and you're like, 117 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 6: you go and you go the round and then while 118 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 6: you're all getting beers. Yeah, so you just want to 119 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,559 Speaker 6: make sure that you don't want to be a tighter. 120 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 6: If you do it well, you're flying to the radar, Scott. 121 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 6: If you do it well, no one knows. 122 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 5: We do know, we can we pick it up. Going 123 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 5: to go for a drink of this interview, Scott. 124 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: Now, let's let's just try and say then we have 125 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: a quick thrift off here school holidays are coming up. 126 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm just going to throw you guys in a quick 127 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: hypothetical here, just throw us around. Hey, you can save 128 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: some cash in that analogy. 129 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 5: To thrift off. Let's kick it off with you, Scott camping. 130 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: If you go camping with your kids, your family this 131 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: school holidays, where's the place to save money there? 132 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 6: Well, I think that first of all, you're actually just 133 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 6: going to the to the paddock in at my farm. 134 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 5: Therefore you don't actually even have to drive, no overheads 135 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 5: at all. He's done. Well, they're the barefoot investor. 136 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 4: Bang. 137 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 5: That's really good. 138 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: Wow, that's really really, really really stamped his authority on 139 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: this contest. 140 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 5: Earlier I thought he'd fold into the night. 141 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: I don't think I can do the same in my courtyard, 142 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 3: my two by four meter courtyard for a camping. 143 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 5: What are you thinking then, woods camping for camping? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 144 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 5: I mean I think Scot got me in my back. 145 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: Wow, man, I don't know, mate, you're the one who's 146 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: the self proclaimed thrift thrift man. 147 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 5: So let's move on then, shall we? Theme parks? 148 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: Obviously, lots of kids are going to be wanting to 149 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: go to theme parks, you know, you're wetting wilds. Your 150 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: water World's see world a bit controversial these days, so 151 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: we won't mention. 152 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 5: It parking your farm to you. 153 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: I mean, sorry, I'm getting competitive, I'm getting competitive. 154 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 155 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 6: I guess what I would say is that we are 156 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 6: getting the three park superpass, because I am actually. 157 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 5: The superpass, right, Okay, Yeah, So I'm actually. 158 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 6: Getting in a winter bago in a few weeks time, 159 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 6: four kids, my wife, so six of us traveling three 160 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 6: thousand kilometers up to Queensland, and there will be theme 161 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 6: parks involved. This may be the most expensive holiday of 162 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 6: my life because I may get divorced given that I 163 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 6: have my wife and four children tracked for. 164 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 5: Like ninety days. Yeah. Just get yourself some good audible 165 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 5: audio books, That's what I would recommend. And we're going 166 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 5: to bring our own snacks. We're not, We're not. We're 167 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 5: not doing the hospital in your own sacks. That's how 168 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 5: Tidy touches the touches there. 169 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: When you put an audio book on Scott, do you 170 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: chuck on the Barefoot Investors. 171 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 5: Magic Parao tree. But we do it. 172 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 6: We do it from the library where we're actually we 173 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 6: can actually get it for free. 174 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: Oh nice, Well, the finishing touches here for the Barefoot Investor. 175 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 5: All right, crack here. 176 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: So we all know that theme parks are there are 177 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: Fairest wheels. Yeah, and people don't know this, but a 178 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: common issue with Faerires wheels is loose change falls out 179 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: of your pockets. So for my kids, we spend the 180 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: entire day stand down to the Ferriss Wheel collecting coins 181 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: gat stuff. 182 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 5: Oh wow, it's great to have you in the Barefoot Investor. 183 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: Genuinely a pleasure to meet your mate, honestly, congratulations on 184 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: all your success. 185 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 5: See more of the boys on the Full Show podcast. 186 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 6: You know you want to