WEBVTT - Sausages and Saunas 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the

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<v Speaker 1>hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Torber and coming up on today's show. More red

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<v Speaker 1>flags for Tammy Hembro ahead of her wedding next month,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah's Day Is Dramatic final days of pregnancy and Steph

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<v Speaker 1>glare Smith's anti climactic life update. But first, A bizarre

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<v Speaker 1>rant about sausages and saunas has sparked breakup rumors between

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<v Speaker 1>Sky Wheatley and her baby daddy, Locky war Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>Lockie has been missing from Sky's social media for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks now, and it's quite odd because initially

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<v Speaker 1>Lockie never wanted to be included on Sky's channel. He

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<v Speaker 1>made it pretty clear he didn't want to get involved.

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<v Speaker 1>But since she won I'm a Celeb, he has started

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<v Speaker 1>being featured more and more. And at the time a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people said possibly it was because his business

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't doing so well, so maybe he realized that he

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<v Speaker 1>might have to go on and start a social media

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<v Speaker 1>career of his own or be more supportive of Sky's career.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of months ago, there were media reports that

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<v Speaker 1>his business shop fit Co, had gone into administration just

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<v Speaker 1>last week. He hit back at those claims, saying that

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<v Speaker 1>his business was still solvent. I have always loved seeing

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<v Speaker 1>Lockie on Sky's channel. He is hilarious, even without trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be. I have a soft spot for him as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think he intentionally tries to be funny. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's just I don't want to say, an

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<v Speaker 1>odd ball, but I think he's just a bit weird.

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<v Speaker 1>And he and Sky just play off each other really

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<v Speaker 1>well because he'll give it to her. Yeah, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have noticed that he's actually a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>eye candy as well. He was never really my type,

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<v Speaker 1>but he seems to have matured a bit. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he's just been hitting the gym or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's when guys reach thirty and they start

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<v Speaker 1>to look like real men. Yeah, maybe that has something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it. So I had a big laugh

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday because I don't follow him on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>but one of the comments on Sky's photos said to

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<v Speaker 1>go check it out because he was being a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit unhinged. And his usurname is sweet Tooth, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually not his real name. Yeah, so when I

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<v Speaker 1>clicked over, I was surprised his page actually has fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand followers. I'm guessing all of Sky's followers have

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<v Speaker 1>gone over. I haven't seen someone be so real on

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<v Speaker 1>social media for such a long time. Let's throw to

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<v Speaker 1>some of what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>It just a bit of fucking turpeto, you fucking buy,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know what happens when you have a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of Chariza. It was a bit falking. So you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be back back and that that Genta baby, you fucking beer,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know what they say when you've had too

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<v Speaker 3>much Chriso, then too many Gent's, You're just gotta take

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<v Speaker 3>yourself downtown.

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<v Speaker 4>You're gotta have a really serious thing about what you've done.

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<v Speaker 5>And you've got a sweet of their baby. And then

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<v Speaker 5>you might find yourself sitting down pondering wondering why did

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<v Speaker 5>I just eat three or four lengths of sausage? He

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<v Speaker 5>might be thinking do.

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<v Speaker 4>I really need to eat three pieces of sausage?

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<v Speaker 5>And then I lay here, sit and wonder, and I think, well,

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<v Speaker 5>you probably didn't need to eat three pieces of sausage.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe one sausage would have done, Maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>Two bit three three pieces of sausage.

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<v Speaker 5>That's one sausage too much.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know about you, guys, but I thought, I

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<v Speaker 4>hope you guys enjoy that, because I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm fucking sick to death of just seeing fucking fake shit.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know what's gone on in the fucking world anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>But everyone's so just fucking serious, and everyone's just doing

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<v Speaker 4>fitness and shit. I mean, that's all good, be fit,

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<v Speaker 4>but like, don't live alive, just like do shit? Who cares?

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<v Speaker 4>Stop being so fucking serious.

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<v Speaker 1>I tend to agree with him. I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>more content like that on social media. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see people being unhinged saying it how it is. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a part of me that was thinking, is he

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<v Speaker 1>taking aim at Sky? But let's be honest, Sky is

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<v Speaker 1>exactly like that on social media. She does post fitness stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also never filters herself. I really enjoyed the

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<v Speaker 1>content too. However, there was a bit of a mixed

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<v Speaker 1>reception in our Facebook community. So one of our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>said his stories are giving midlife crisis ha ha ha.

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<v Speaker 1>Another said guys who jump on social media and yap

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<v Speaker 1>are generally super embarrassing. To be honest, whilst another said

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<v Speaker 1>I'm finding it odd because he hated being on social media. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason people think that Locke has broken up with

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<v Speaker 1>Sky or that they're on a break is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that all of that footage was actually filmed at people

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<v Speaker 1>are speculating his mum's house. It was a very nice house.

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<v Speaker 1>It had a beautiful pool, it was very Hampton Styler

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<v Speaker 1>even had a sauna, as you could hear. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>seeing Locke's parents appear in a very early vlog when

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<v Speaker 1>Sky and Locke started dating, and I think that they

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<v Speaker 1>were meeting for a Christmas celebration, and his parents very

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<v Speaker 1>how to do, and they looked rather taken back by

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things that Sky was saying. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they are very wealthy. Some people think that

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<v Speaker 1>he must just be house sitting for his mum, who

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be holidaying at the moment. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>he went rogue on social media because he's a bit lonely.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably used to being in this very chaotic and

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<v Speaker 1>loud house with Sky and their kids, and maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>just felt like getting some of that energy out online.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think he went rogue because he was enjoying himself.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're a father of two and you

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<v Speaker 1>used to being in a family environment and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>this beautiful house by yourself. He ate three or four

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<v Speaker 1>tritzo sausages and when in a sauna, I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect evening for some people. Yeah, it's just interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that he would choose to share it, particularly when he

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<v Speaker 1>has been so against appearing in Sky's social media content.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm officially five days away from my dune date.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thirty nine weeks and two days.

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<v Speaker 4>Ugh, you'll just have to believe me. I currently give

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<v Speaker 4>you a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bob up date.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah's Day is definitely making the most out of her

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<v Speaker 1>third and final pregnancy. The controversial influencer has been keeping

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<v Speaker 1>her one point two million followers regularly updated on her

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<v Speaker 1>final weeks of pregnancy, from sharing induction methods to a

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<v Speaker 1>daily tally of her gestation period. For the record, she's

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<v Speaker 1>officially forty weeks today. I keep checking in on her

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram account to see if the baby's finally here, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't believe that it still hasn't arrived, because

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago she did this big update saying, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, everyone, I've lost my mucus plug baby must

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<v Speaker 1>be on its way. But then she plugged her pilates

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<v Speaker 1>or pregnancy workout guide as part of that update. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course she did, because that has been a theme throughout it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell that she really is trying to monetize

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<v Speaker 1>this pregnancy, because pregnancy has been such a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of her brand for the last five years. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you almost get this sense of desperation of ensuring that

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<v Speaker 1>she milks this final pregnancy. Well, I think she realizes

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<v Speaker 1>that now that she's going to have three very young children,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way that she's going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>push out the volume of content that she used to.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in the past couple of years, we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a huge decline in the amount of videos that she's

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<v Speaker 1>put out and also the amount of views that she

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<v Speaker 1>receives on videos and the hype around her. Well, her

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<v Speaker 1>pregnancies have always created a lot of hype and also

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<v Speaker 1>acted as distraction from some of the biggest scandals that

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<v Speaker 1>she's been involved in. For instance, her first pregnancy with

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<v Speaker 1>Fox was the perfect distraction away from that Sin three drama,

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<v Speaker 1>and his birth ended up being the most watched moment

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<v Speaker 1>on her YouTube channel to date, and she is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>trying to build suspense with her content around baby number three.

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<v Speaker 1>So at thirty eight weeks pregnant, Sarah revealed the methods

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<v Speaker 1>that she was trying to induce labor. So one of

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<v Speaker 1>those was a pregnancy leg massage, so she shared that

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<v Speaker 1>the massage had brought on labor not only for her

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<v Speaker 1>but also her friends within twenty four hours of having it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the following day she was mia from her Instagram account,

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<v Speaker 1>which caused a lot of speculation that she had gone

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<v Speaker 1>into labor. She then returned on the Monday and told

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<v Speaker 1>her followers that she doesn't post much on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>That was despite sharing about the massage on Saturday. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a business woman. It's a great way to draw

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<v Speaker 1>up engagement and get people coming in to check back

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<v Speaker 1>in on your page, which I was doing now. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons that Sarah seems so keen to induce

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<v Speaker 1>labor is because of the looming date of Halloween. So

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<v Speaker 1>she revealed that she does not want her baby born

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<v Speaker 1>on Halloween because of religious reasons. So a follower wrote

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<v Speaker 1>on her page, I wonder if you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a Halloween baby, to which she replied, I will put

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<v Speaker 1>my pelvic floor to the ultimate test and keep him

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<v Speaker 1>inside of me if my body tries to go into

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<v Speaker 1>labor on Halloween, my worst day of the year, No thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>A follower asked Sarah why, and she responded saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's super demonic and totally goes against my faith.

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<v Speaker 1>But if baby decides to come on Halloween, then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>actually celebrate that date for a different reason, including a

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<v Speaker 1>birthday cake emoji, as well as clapping hands and balloons.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, I thought it was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a joke the reference to Halloween, but then I realized

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<v Speaker 1>there were some religious reasonings behind not wanting to give

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<v Speaker 1>birth on that date. It's actually funny to hear and

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<v Speaker 1>influencer talk badly about Halloween, because normally they're using it

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<v Speaker 1>for content and posting costume. My deears this didn't particularly

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<v Speaker 1>surprise me because Halloween is one of those holidays which

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<v Speaker 1>isn't embraced by a lot of religions, particularly the Christian faith,

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<v Speaker 1>and she does speak a lot about her religious views,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's entitled to not want her baby born on Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>My husband's birthday is actually a day before Halloween, and

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<v Speaker 1>he has grown up hating Halloween. I think it's because

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<v Speaker 1>as a child, the day after your birthday is always

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<v Speaker 1>so disappointing, and I think he felt like Halloween took

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<v Speaker 1>the shine off the fact that it was his day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, moving on to the drama surrounding this last week

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<v Speaker 1>of pregnancy. On Monday last week, while doing a tutorial

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<v Speaker 1>on how to express colostrum, Sarah flagged that she was

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<v Speaker 1>starting to feel unwell. So during Sarah's last labor with

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<v Speaker 1>her son Malachi, she actually had rhinovirus and she was

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<v Speaker 1>very unwell, and she said the fact that she was

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<v Speaker 1>getting a scratchy throat actually was truggering her because she

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<v Speaker 1>has opened up about having birth trauma surrounding both of

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<v Speaker 1>the births of her sons. Oh I felt so sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for her. She looked incredibly unwell and it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>she was trying anything to get better. She then asked

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<v Speaker 1>her followers for some home remedies to help fight off

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<v Speaker 1>her sickness, but unfortunately, the following day, she refilled that

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<v Speaker 1>despite all of the attempts, she was struck down with

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<v Speaker 1>the flu. She wrote on Instagram, went to bed with

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<v Speaker 1>onions on my feet, onions next to the bed ate

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<v Speaker 1>raw garlic, took all the vitamins and have still woken

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<v Speaker 1>up incredibly sick. I do feel very sorry for her

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<v Speaker 1>that she was feeling sick and that this triggered her.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did have a laugh because it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you believe it, I've done all of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, why didn't you go to the doctor?

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<v Speaker 1>Like why would you be trying all these home remedies.

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<v Speaker 1>I also saw she went to this very expensive health

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<v Speaker 1>food store and said, I will buy everything you tell

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<v Speaker 1>me to, And of course she came home with a

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<v Speaker 1>huge supply of things because they probably saw dollar signs,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had these three large smoothies that she literally

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<v Speaker 1>sculled on her Instagram story. I would hate to think

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<v Speaker 1>how much they cost. No wonder she ended up vomiting.

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<v Speaker 1>She did say it could have had something to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the raw garlic that she also ate. I think

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<v Speaker 1>when you're that heavily pregnant and you've had such a

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<v Speaker 1>bad experience with your other labors, that you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>try and do anything to feel like you've got control

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<v Speaker 1>over the situation. Well, she even asked her followers to

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<v Speaker 1>pray for her so she put out what she called

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<v Speaker 1>a prayer request, asking for quote health and healing over

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<v Speaker 1>my body and that baby stays in me until I

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<v Speaker 1>can fight this off. Please Lord, just protect this baby

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<v Speaker 1>and keep him cooking so I don't give him this

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<v Speaker 1>sickness or have to go through labor like this again. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>despite saying that she didn't want to give birth, she

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<v Speaker 1>then ended up having a bath with clary sage oil,

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<v Speaker 1>which actually can stimulate the uterus to contract, and people

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<v Speaker 1>normally use it to induce labor. So I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if she just wasn't thinking in that moment, but she

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<v Speaker 1>has been trying so many remedies to bring forth this labor.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>After taking two days off to recover from her cold,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah returned online, and this time it was to share

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<v Speaker 1>what she called her favorite optical illusion. She filmed herself

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<v Speaker 1>front on in the mirror before turning to the side

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<v Speaker 1>to show off her baby bump. She captured the reel

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<v Speaker 1>forever my favorite Optical Illusion and went on to share

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<v Speaker 1>that she was thirty nine plus two days pregnant now.

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<v Speaker 1>Since the time of recording, this reel has a massed

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<v Speaker 1>one point three million views and has sparked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of debate. Yeah, so the majority of the commentary was

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<v Speaker 1>positive towards Sarah. Many followers were praising her for her

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<v Speaker 1>amazing physeike. One person wrote, everyone must be so envious

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<v Speaker 1>that you have a waste, even when so pregnant. Another

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<v Speaker 1>person added, your body is going to bounce right back.

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<v Speaker 1>You look absolutely incredible. One person actually passed her bump

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<v Speaker 1>size off as being to do with the gender of

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<v Speaker 1>the baby, so they wrote, that's a boy bump for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah seemed to take offense to that comment, responding, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say it's more a combo of being raging healthy, working

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<v Speaker 1>out for the entirety of my pregnancy following a Core

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<v Speaker 1>Strength program, body and bump and some genetics sprinkled in,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than the gender of my baby. I love how

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<v Speaker 1>she uses this moment to plug her fitness program. It's

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<v Speaker 1>clear that a lot of people actually felt inadequate after

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<v Speaker 1>seeing this real One person wrote, this makes me depressed.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy for you, but I'm struggling not to hate myself.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my issue, not yours. I totally understand where

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<v Speaker 1>that person is coming from, because when I was pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel ultra comfortable showing off my bump. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some people that get these. I want to use inverted

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<v Speaker 1>commas around it, designer bumps that you see them everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>on influencers, on models. It's just a little bump and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't tell the rest of them is pregnant. And

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't necessarily mean that you're fitter or healthier than someone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just how your body holds on to weight and

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<v Speaker 1>a growing baby. Also, a lot of women have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fluid in their face, which makes them feel

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<v Speaker 1>not like themselves. I've seen on TikTok a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>women saying also that they get pregnancy nose and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of their features just look different and they don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like themselves. So I think that that is why

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<v Speaker 1>it's particularly jarring to see someone saying, oh, look, this

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<v Speaker 1>is an optical illusion. Everything else about me looks exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the same except my little bump.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I held a lot of fluid in my

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<v Speaker 1>face towards the end, and I only realized now that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not pregnant. Looking back at your wedding photos, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, my face looks completely different. But that's just

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<v Speaker 1>what happens when you get pregnant. You are creating life

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<v Speaker 1>inside of your body. You are allowed to look different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just ridiculous. And if you don't look different, that's

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<v Speaker 1>also fine. But it does make me feel a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit uncomfortable. The fact that Sarah is using these opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>to constantly plug her fitness program. Is not a cheap guide.

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<v Speaker 1>It cost one hundred and twenty dollars and it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like at every opportunity she is making sure people know

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<v Speaker 1>I look like this pregnant because of this fitness guide.

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<v Speaker 1>And it really is playing on people's vulnerabilities because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that there's a more vulnerable time in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of women's life than when they're pregnant, because so

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<v Speaker 1>much is happening to them hormonally, they don't look like

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<v Speaker 1>they once did, and they'll probably try anything to get

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<v Speaker 1>an ounce of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Bat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it does concern me for what Sarah is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be like postpardon, because last pregnancy she was

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<v Speaker 1>accused of pushing bounce back culture. Now that she actually

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<v Speaker 1>has her guide out there, I think she gets only

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<v Speaker 1>going to be worse. Yeah. I really hope that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't see body checks. That is my least favorite thing

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<v Speaker 1>to see online. It is never helpful for anyone. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why people put it out there unless it's

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<v Speaker 1>a flex for them. Well, it is only a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of days before she has this baby, if not today,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think she's going to update her followers. My

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<v Speaker 1>feeling is that she'll do a bit of a cryptic

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<v Speaker 1>update like she did when she was in labor with Malachi.

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<v Speaker 1>So from memory, she took a photo in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was very late at the time and

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<v Speaker 1>they were heading into the hospital, and she did a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of emojis referencing clues to Malachi's name. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get something similar to that. We might get a

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<v Speaker 1>few photos of her in labor, but she will keep

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it for her YouTube channel, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>And also TikTok I love you say it's cryptic, like

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<v Speaker 1>she was literally on the way to the hospital. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not too cryptic. Well, it was cryptic in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>of she was still trying to tease about his name. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>I see. I think differently. I think that because this

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<v Speaker 1>is her last pregnancy and she's really trying to crack TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that she's going to host live updates a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. How Indy Clinton did so. Indy Clinton was

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<v Speaker 1>popping tiktoks up as she was at the hospital and

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<v Speaker 1>in labor. I think Sarah is going to want to

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<v Speaker 1>copy that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I just fucking hope that this process helps me.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the weekend, Steph Claire Smith revealed she would be

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<v Speaker 1>sharing a life update on her latest podcast episode, which

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<v Speaker 1>would air on Monday. Now. She broke the news first

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<v Speaker 1>to her broadcast channel before sharing this statement on her

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram story on Sunday. She wrote, So tomorrow on the Kickpod,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be sharing something relatively fresh but really important to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something I've been working through for quite some time now,

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<v Speaker 1>and in ways the journey's only just begun. I'd really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you listening with kindness as it's something i'd be

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<v Speaker 1>nervous to share. Or my love kiss kiss Kiss. As

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I saw this, I was like, what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on? This must be a huge life update and

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<v Speaker 1>it did lead to a lot of speculation and theories online.

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<v Speaker 1>The most popular theory was that Steph and her husband

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<v Speaker 1>Josh were breaking up. Now I knew this wasn't true

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<v Speaker 1>because Steph has been posting with him as normal. They're

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<v Speaker 1>actually away on a weekend together. I actually thought there

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<v Speaker 1>could have been some validity to those theories, particularly because

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<v Speaker 1>Josh was holidaying with his friends in Europe without Steph

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple of weeks ago, and the only times

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Josh pop up on Steph's Instagram story well

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<v Speaker 1>when they were out and about with Harvey, and I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps they're just being amicable and showing that they're joint parenting.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that their parents and so they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be with their child all the time. But you thought that, what, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but their parents. Of course they're going to be out

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<v Speaker 1>with their child all the time. Yeah, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like we were seeing content of them at home together

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<v Speaker 1>or them going out on dates or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's difficult when you have a child, but

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that there could be some truth to it,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in the way that she led in that she

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<v Speaker 1>was very nervous about it and it's something that she's

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<v Speaker 1>been working through. The Other theory was that she could

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<v Speaker 1>be opening up about fertility issues or even a health scare.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>This came off the back of Steph sharing a post

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<v Speaker 1>of her in the car saying that there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot going on in her life, and you never know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on behind the scenes. She looked quite sad

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<v Speaker 1>in the photo, and this has been worrying a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of her followers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In the post, she said, there's a lot happening behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes at the moment, things bringing a multitude of

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<v Speaker 1>emotions on. But I'm okay, so grateful for my beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>friends and family. Teared up today thinking about it. You

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<v Speaker 1>never know what someone's got going on. Just remember that,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you have got something at the moment, lean

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<v Speaker 1>on your loved ones, give them the opportunity to be

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<v Speaker 1>there for you, because I know a lot of us

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we need to figure it out on our own,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't. Lots of love, hope your weekend is

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<v Speaker 1>filled with joy. To me, I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>there is something drastic going on in her life, and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt a lot of sympathy for her.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, someone actually hit the nail on the head. In

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<v Speaker 1>our Facebook group, they said, watch it will be something

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<v Speaker 1>totally underwhelming again. Now, this is in reference to Kicks

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<v Speaker 1>promo about their concierge service. Yeah, and that's the issue

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<v Speaker 1>when you really do breadcrumb information like this and hype

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<v Speaker 1>it up in order for people to consume something, so

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<v Speaker 1>in this case clear that Steph and Laura wanted their

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<v Speaker 1>audience to all tune into this episode. And in the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>Steph revealed that she has ADHD. Let's throw it to

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<v Speaker 1>some of what she said, I have a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a life update for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, I've spent the whole last decade of my

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<v Speaker 2>life publicly online, and I've always been really open about

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on in my life, and I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>like with this, it's been something that's been taking up

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of my mental capacity. Just the other week,

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<v Speaker 2>I was diagnosed with ADHD. It was probably about over

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<v Speaker 2>a year ago now where I started to get curious

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. In terms of making this announcement, Steph said it

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<v Speaker 1>felt inauthentic not to share the news as she's been

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<v Speaker 1>sharing her life online for ten years now, and then

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<v Speaker 1>she went on to speak about why she got assessed

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<v Speaker 1>and also how she went about it, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>how she felt during the process. Now, Steph said that

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<v Speaker 1>she expected to cop criticism and also unwavering support, and

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<v Speaker 1>she said that she actually shared the news to help others.

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<v Speaker 1>I am all for Steph telling her story about her diagnosis,

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<v Speaker 1>and I agree it probably will help others who maybe

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<v Speaker 1>feel alone, and it is a serious thing. What I

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<v Speaker 1>take issue with, though, is breadcrumbing this information and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hype it up and click bait it. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel comfortable with. Yeah, I think it's very

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<v Speaker 1>commendable for Steph to open up about her diagnosis, but

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<v Speaker 1>I also think it would have been a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>powerful if she didn't tease it for clickbait, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>there have been so many high profile women talking openly

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<v Speaker 1>about having ADHD. Yeah, it's been something we've seen spoken about,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly about women's experiences over the past two years, even

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where there's been a lot of jokes

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<v Speaker 1>and ridicule on TikTok that everyone thinks that they have

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<v Speaker 1>ADHD because it seems to be popular at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe that's where Steph's hesitation and worry came from.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't want people to feel like she was jumping

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<v Speaker 1>on some sort of trend, which I hate to call

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<v Speaker 1>it a trend because it's not well. She did talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that on her stories afterwards, so she said she

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<v Speaker 1>had a bit of an oversharing hangover, but it really

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to rile her up because she did cop negative.

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<v Speaker 1>So one person wrote, oh spare me, everyone has ADHD

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<v Speaker 1>these days. It's a scale chase the diagnosis and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>find it now. That comment had sixty four likes. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>else wrote, does actually every member of the population have it,

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<v Speaker 1>as I've never heard of anyone not diagnosed with it

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<v Speaker 1>when being tested. Ever since the kickpod took a new direction,

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<v Speaker 1>Steph and Laura have opened themselves up to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more criticism because a lot of the material and information

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<v Speaker 1>they share about their lives now is very click baity.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I see a real promoting their podcast, they

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about very personal details, either about their sex

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<v Speaker 1>life or controversial arguments with their partners. Yeah. Well, when

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<v Speaker 1>I tuned into this episode, the first thing Laura shared

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<v Speaker 1>with everyone was that she had thrush, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>went into this very personal conversation that she and her

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<v Speaker 1>husband Dalton had about how he had asked if they

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<v Speaker 1>could have sex that day and she said no, she

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<v Speaker 1>had thrush, and then he said, oh, what about your mouth?

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<v Speaker 1>And then she said, god, I've got a cold saw

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<v Speaker 1>and then he said what about your hand? And then

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<v Speaker 1>they started laughing about how hand job's seen very high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually blown away. And I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>shame Laura for talking about her sex life. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's great that people are open about their sex life,

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<v Speaker 1>but surely there is a line when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>sharing those types of details about a conversation that you've

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<v Speaker 1>had with your husband. I think, particularly because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any of the tone of that conversation, because that

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<v Speaker 1>could be taken out of context and look particularly bad

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<v Speaker 1>upon him, like it sounded like he was really pushing

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<v Speaker 1>for it when she was clearly saying no.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It made me feel uncomfortable because yeah, there definitely wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>much context given. And we have spoken about this previously,

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<v Speaker 1>but the way that Laura speaks about her husband isn't

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<v Speaker 1>really in a very glowing light. I would not be

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<v Speaker 1>impressed if I was Dalton, particularly the information that she

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<v Speaker 1>shares about their sex life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like they're selling their souls for this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of don't understand it because they already

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<v Speaker 1>have an absolutely flourishing business. Their kick app is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been using it for five years, I think

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<v Speaker 1>even longer than that. They also have this amazing line

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<v Speaker 1>of products in Woolworths. They're both huge influencers in their

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<v Speaker 1>own right, but I feel like they are diluting their

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<v Speaker 1>brand by putting out this podcast. I mean, it must

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<v Speaker 1>be making them enough money for them to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the executive creative director, chief buyer and lifestyle coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a huge responsibility.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very important.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into a highs and lows of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>My high and lower actually intertwined. So my best, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is returning to the podcast from maternity leave. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to get my head around the fact that it's been

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen weeks. It feels like I've never left, and then

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<v Speaker 1>also it feels like I've had this whole other life. Ironically,

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<v Speaker 1>you can probably hear Jack crying in the background because

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<v Speaker 1>we're recording from my house. So I am at the

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<v Speaker 1>moment trying to balance motherhood and being back on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why it's my lower as well, because I

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<v Speaker 1>do miss Jack when I'm not around him. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a babysitter the other day, Thank you Mum for looking

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<v Speaker 1>after him, and it was so sad, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so nice to come home to him and see him

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel so lucky that I've got the flexibility

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<v Speaker 1>where I can work during his nap time or when

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<v Speaker 1>Reese's home, or if we've got a babysitter, But it

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<v Speaker 1>is just so sad to leave him when I have

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<v Speaker 1>to go to work. Yeah, I feel like we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a co host happening in the background

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<v Speaker 1>with his cute little crying. But it is really nice

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<v Speaker 1>to have you back on the show. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>get into my high of the week, and it has

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<v Speaker 1>been discovering an incredible Christmas appeal which is called It's

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bag, and it's run by a charity called

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<v Speaker 1>Share the Dignity Australia and it encourages people to put

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<v Speaker 1>together bags filled with essential items and also some luxury

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<v Speaker 1>items for women and girls who are spending their Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>in a domestic violence refuge or a homeless shelter. My

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<v Speaker 1>husband's auntie has been making bags for this charity for

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<v Speaker 1>quite some time now and it's just such a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do to make someone else's Christmas morning a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit brighter. It's really easy to get involved and

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<v Speaker 1>you can either put together an adult, teen or mum

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<v Speaker 1>and bub bag. They do ask for the bags to

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<v Speaker 1>be filled with essential items and then the rest is

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<v Speaker 1>up to you. And once you you've made your bag,

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<v Speaker 1>you can then easily drop it off at your local

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<v Speaker 1>Bunning store between the fifteenth of November and the one

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<v Speaker 1>of December. I know everyone might not be in the

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<v Speaker 1>position to do so, but if you are, I would

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<v Speaker 1>highly recommend getting involved because the charity was down one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand bags last year and they did not meet

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<v Speaker 1>the requests of those who needed them, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>we should all try and get behind them. Mine low

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<v Speaker 1>of the week, and I think that this will be

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<v Speaker 1>a low shared by many others is Liam Payne's tragic passing.

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<v Speaker 1>We spoke on Tuesday's episode in depth about what happened

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<v Speaker 1>and our complex feelings towards it, but I just still

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<v Speaker 1>can't shake the feeling of being sad. I've been listening

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of One Direction in the car, which

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<v Speaker 1>has been bringing me a bit of happiness and joy,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly because Liam sings so many of the verses, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that all of us are holding a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a heavy heart this week because of it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that is all we have time for today. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us for this episode. If you

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