WEBVTT - Do Australian’s Want To Get Rich? 🦘 🤑

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<v Speaker 1>On Flex and Frooms Flex and Firms. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>understand how much of a skill it is to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to share our thoughts off the cuff like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone sent me a message the other day reflecting on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast I used to do, and how at the

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<v Speaker 2>time they couldn't appreciate that although my approach was straightforward,

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<v Speaker 2>the information always slapped and they couldn't get past the

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<v Speaker 2>straightforward approach to hear the information. So that I say,

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<v Speaker 2>you're lucky that I don't rely on external validation to

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<v Speaker 2>feel something. I gave it to myself. But I will

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<v Speaker 2>take that I appreciate It's.

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<v Speaker 3>A nice little treit on the side, a little treat anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast time, Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>Something that we often speak about on the show is riches,

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<v Speaker 3>not so much rags. We're not really focusing on the

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<v Speaker 3>come up story as much as the current day swag

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<v Speaker 3>and riches, some would say, And so I'm always looking

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<v Speaker 3>for stories that exacerbate this narrative, or rather look as

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<v Speaker 3>if we are trying to inter it in a meaningful

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<v Speaker 3>and exciting way. That's why I'm on the City Morning Herald.

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<v Speaker 3>As you know, this is my publication of choice. You

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<v Speaker 3>go to and I see this title, most of us

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<v Speaker 3>don't really want to be rich, for better or worse.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll just start by saying, Sydney Morning Herald has

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<v Speaker 3>really been popping its bussy coming out with these opinion

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<v Speaker 3>pieces lately. They've really been put in some pizazz into

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<v Speaker 3>the titles. And I'm not sure if it's because it's

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<v Speaker 3>the cost of them in crisis. And then you get

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<v Speaker 3>the subscribers up, but it's generating interest.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you let them know?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>But hopefully this will get back to someone great. So

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<v Speaker 3>this guy called Roskins, don't know his story, but he

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<v Speaker 3>wrote this opinion piece and he thinks that most Australians

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<v Speaker 3>would like to be rich if the riches were delivered

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<v Speaker 3>to us on a plate. But Australians don't actually want

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<v Speaker 3>to become more productive to make money. So now some

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<v Speaker 3>people are like, if you just work, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>It turns out the average person doesn't want to work

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<v Speaker 3>that hard, which should come as no surprise. So this

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<v Speaker 3>question has arisen because the productivity Commissions five yearly has

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<v Speaker 3>just come out, as we know, around the election, these

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<v Speaker 3>kind of things come out, and the productivity performance that

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<v Speaker 3>was discovered is that we haven't gotten much richer over

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<v Speaker 3>the last decade. But you know how it's always like

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<v Speaker 3>Australia is prospering more and more money. It turns out

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<v Speaker 3>that it's not actually because of individual wealth. Obviously, it's

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<v Speaker 3>because of the mining projects and whatnot. And the reason

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<v Speaker 3>why we're becoming more wealthier is because people are squeezing

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<v Speaker 3>more productivity out of us, as we know. So really

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<v Speaker 3>when the government.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so, what you're saying is like when people are

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<v Speaker 2>saying Australia is getting richer, it's not the individuals getting richer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the corporations getting richer because they're able to squeeze

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<v Speaker 2>more labor out of us at the same wage or

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<v Speaker 2>rate or whatever. Yes, we're working more optimally, but not

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<v Speaker 2>for our own personal gain.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet apparently the ways to get more productivity out

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<v Speaker 3>of people is to give them the education, give them

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<v Speaker 3>better machines, improve the way businesses organize their work organized

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<v Speaker 3>in bunny rabbits. So it actually says that the rate

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<v Speaker 3>of productivity improvement over the past decade has been the

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<v Speaker 3>slowest in sixty years. So it's all giving me a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of different facts.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that makes sense to me. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago, when the narrative that millennials

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<v Speaker 2>are lazy was running rampant. I know there was a

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<v Speaker 2>small subset of millennials were really offended by that because

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<v Speaker 2>they had kind of been indoctrinated into hustle culture and

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<v Speaker 2>were really working at quite insane race to achieve success.

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<v Speaker 2>And they did that, but that was not the main narrative.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything, the counter narrative was just as strong and

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<v Speaker 2>was being spread by more people, people saying, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to actually work, I don't dream of labor,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to upskill, I don't want to stay back,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want career accolades. And that message just got

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<v Speaker 2>suppressed in silence or overshadowed by the rags to riches,

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<v Speaker 2>get rich quick, hustle culture rise and grind narrative. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, neither one is good or bad or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's really important to interrogate the way

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<v Speaker 2>we feel about work so we can figure out what

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<v Speaker 2>purpose work serve. Work serves for most of us. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you and I work, and we talk very often

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<v Speaker 2>about how I mean, we have different approaches to work.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to work so I can make a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money and not work. How I do it is incidental,

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<v Speaker 2>because what other choice do I feel like I have. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>The kind of life I want to live requires me

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<v Speaker 2>to work at a really, really, really hectic rate. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've said it plenty of times. I would never work

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<v Speaker 2>the way I've worked in the last ten years to

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<v Speaker 2>achieve the same amount of success. I wouldn't do it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can only know that from doing it. There

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<v Speaker 2>are a ton of people who are way more critical

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<v Speaker 2>and who can say I actually don't want to work

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<v Speaker 2>that hard period. But now that people's daily needs are

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<v Speaker 2>being put into question, the fact that people can't even

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<v Speaker 2>meet their daily needs without overworking themselves is a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>we can't have when people are convincing themselves that work

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<v Speaker 2>is a very exciting thing for them and that they

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<v Speaker 2>dream and live of labor. But I also think it's

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<v Speaker 2>counterintuitive to assume that no labor is the solution, like

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to I don't want to work yourself into homelessness.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this just interested me because of the whole hustle

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<v Speaker 3>culture narrative. I feel like in the last ten years

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<v Speaker 3>that's when the girl boss was invented. Like obviously in

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<v Speaker 3>the nineties you had the like women and mums working

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<v Speaker 3>like from the eighties onwards and then, but the real

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<v Speaker 3>girl bossification of like young women creating companies was of

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<v Speaker 3>the last ten years. So it's interesting to me that

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<v Speaker 3>the data actually doesn't show that, just as we're coming

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<v Speaker 3>into the slump of people actually questioning neoliberalism.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but girl bossary isn't. Girl bossary is a counter

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<v Speaker 2>conversation to natural hustle culture and capitalism. It wasn't made

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<v Speaker 2>for women or with women in mind. No, it was

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<v Speaker 2>made by men and four men. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>girl bosstery is risen and dropped is secondary to the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the general patriarchal narrative to work is confused

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<v Speaker 2>because people don't think, okit, flex and frooms flex and

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<v Speaker 2>firms flexy.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you engage in cryptocurrency?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the hot question is it's a hot question.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say actively no, but passively yes because of

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<v Speaker 2>rooms not financial advice. But frooms bought an old coin.

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<v Speaker 2>So I bought an old coin and I lost I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know money, and I thought it's not fun anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It got to a point where, because I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what I was investing in, I said, this is not

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<v Speaker 2>dissimilar to gambling, and I don't believe in gambling. So

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<v Speaker 2>I stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>Really went down that route. Well, a woman has sent

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<v Speaker 3>in an issue that she wants us to dissect involving

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<v Speaker 3>her husband and crypto, which is always a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a terrible sentence, i'd say.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, this is the title.

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<v Speaker 3>My husband, a thirty four year old man, were scammed

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<v Speaker 3>out of eleven thousand dollars, and now I, twenty nine female,

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<v Speaker 3>am thinking we need to divorce to protect my own

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<v Speaker 3>financial security. Okay, it's Monday, guys. I can't always, how

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<v Speaker 3>do I say, use my words correctly?

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<v Speaker 1>I need a bit of warm up.

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<v Speaker 3>I just ate a whole bunch of vodkapasta. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 3>let's get back into the story. She writes, we had, have.

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<v Speaker 2>We Some people just can't read out loud. I did

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<v Speaker 2>have to find out very quickly on in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to get extra comprehension levels when I was seven.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I'm a writer. So an a a radio

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<v Speaker 1>host is that nepotism. We'll let the door, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the story.

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<v Speaker 3>We have had an open relationship due to sexual compatibility.

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<v Speaker 3>We have been married almost seven years. My husband has

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<v Speaker 3>never really seen anyone outside the relationship, but started using

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<v Speaker 3>a dating app a month ago and met Leoni, who

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<v Speaker 3>scammed him out of eleven thousand dollars in an internet

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<v Speaker 3>cryptocurrency sheam. I have been considering divorce for some time,

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<v Speaker 3>but after seeing how careless and dishonest he is with

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<v Speaker 3>our money, I'm now thinking I will need to divorce

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<v Speaker 3>him to protect my own financial stability.

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<v Speaker 1>That's on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been fretting away a ten k deposit to a

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<v Speaker 3>divorce attorney, and now that seems like an amount of

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<v Speaker 3>money he or we could clearly live without. My husband

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<v Speaker 3>also now claims he won't try and date anyone anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>but I did not want to close a relationship, especially

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<v Speaker 3>given the fact that he has lost my trust. Any

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<v Speaker 3>advice is appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>This is so laateate.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know like it wouldn't an open relationship

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<v Speaker 3>mean that you would have heaps of trust?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's where ethical non monogamy comes to. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's the difference. Some people do open, some people do ethical.

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<v Speaker 2>How old's a husband thirty four years old, so young

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<v Speaker 2>enough to know or young enough to have a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good amount of Internet literacy, smart enough to not get

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<v Speaker 2>conned into a crypto dating app scam. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing about dating apps, right, this illusion of access

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<v Speaker 2>to hotties, because the only people who get scammed out

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<v Speaker 2>of money on a dating app people dating outside of

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<v Speaker 2>their equal attraction. There's a random person with a fake account.

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<v Speaker 2>They're using model pictures. Your ego says, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my physical equal. I'm hot. They're hot, They're

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<v Speaker 2>obviously into me. And when this hot person, whoever signed

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<v Speaker 2>positive attributes for being hot, asks me silly questions like.

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<v Speaker 1>Wats your day of birth? And email?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your email? A dress? Watch your full number and

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<v Speaker 2>a dress? And can I have your binance logging?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I get the twenty five special code please that

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<v Speaker 3>you've written on a No.

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<v Speaker 2>You say, well, Leonic clearly loves me, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>will do this for her. You're a dummy, dummy I

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<v Speaker 2>would say divorce because of the money thing. You're so right.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like for seven years you've been married,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw what happened to Adele? And if you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>see what happened to Adele, Adele and her now ex

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<v Speaker 2>husband were going through quite a tumultuous divorce. They themselves

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<v Speaker 2>weren't speaking out about it, but obviously sources came forward

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<v Speaker 2>it and disclosed what had happened. And he was trying

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<v Speaker 2>to sue her for this immense sum like millions and

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<v Speaker 2>millions and millions of dollars, and his reasoning for being

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<v Speaker 2>entitled to that money was because she made a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of her wealth writing songs about their love.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they took I think they thought they figured it.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens when you figure it out out of court settlement? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they settled. So if that could happen to it, it

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<v Speaker 2>happened to you keep your money safe, divorce him, not

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<v Speaker 2>because he's gonna come for your money, because you can't

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<v Speaker 2>trust him to make smart decisions. If it's not this scam,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the hey mom scam, Hey mom, can you just

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<v Speaker 2>send me your bank details?

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<v Speaker 3>I will say I don't want a victim shame those

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<v Speaker 3>that have been, No, I will.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody wants to be cut by a scam.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I've been very close close to being

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<v Speaker 3>chopped up by a scam, and therefore I feel bad

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<v Speaker 3>for him. However, it's a little bit like, can't make

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<v Speaker 3>a retribution if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how easy out. Yes, facts, if you were

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<v Speaker 2>really right or die, you would stay. You're not a

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<v Speaker 2>right or die, So please leave him asap.

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<v Speaker 3>Good luck, Sis, and I hope she could do like

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<v Speaker 3>a Charlotte Yawke from Sex and the City when she

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<v Speaker 3>ends up marrying the divorce lawyer and she's actually.

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<v Speaker 1>His perfect match.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>She does have a little period where she tells him

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<v Speaker 3>that she's way hotter than him and they break up

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<v Speaker 3>because he has self esteem.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they end up getting is she right?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, ah yeah objectively So she's a truth teller.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she really put her hell back into that. This

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<v Speaker 1>is flex and rooms on Kata.

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<v Speaker 2>Another day, another sleigh, this one in particular thanks to

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<v Speaker 2>Shivas Regal. Love your work, thanks for spending a marketing

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<v Speaker 2>budget on the girlies. Let's talk success, but the contradictions

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<v Speaker 2>of gaining success.

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<v Speaker 1>We've spoken about it before where I.

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<v Speaker 2>Said that I don't think that you can be considered

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<v Speaker 2>successful unless you're inherently seen as cringe. I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>like duality is real. With every good there is a

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<v Speaker 2>bad up, there is a down. With every left, there

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<v Speaker 2>is a right. With every successful person is a cringe

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<v Speaker 2>person in the same exact body.

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<v Speaker 3>We do say in terms of who to date, a

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<v Speaker 3>content creator is probably least run this, which every time

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<v Speaker 3>it's not looking good for us. BROV Speaking for myself,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously we have some unresolved trauma in the studio here today, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all from the use of we every time.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree that with every piece of success there is

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<v Speaker 3>a flop. You just want to hope that your flops

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<v Speaker 3>aren't publicized.

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<v Speaker 1>No you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Think no, please continue.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I was gonna say flops are inherently embarrassing. Some

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<v Speaker 3>would say we both did agree, and I will say

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<v Speaker 3>both of us on this one that flops are an

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<v Speaker 3>important part of being successful because, as you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>miss one hundred percent of the shots that you don't take,

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<v Speaker 3>and when you're taking a lot of shots, some of

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<v Speaker 3>them are going to land or hit the hoop correctly.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Hit the hoop correctly, which sport.

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<v Speaker 3>It's starting to sound like mister Universe trying to explend it.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why I think the flop shouldn't be hidden

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<v Speaker 2>is if you find yourself inadvertently projecting a narrative that

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<v Speaker 2>you are an infallible person, your fall from grace would

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<v Speaker 2>be dramatic. It'll be the thing that forever you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas you do a few and look. A flop doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be objective. It can be a subjective flop,

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<v Speaker 2>your favorite thing you've ever done in your career in

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<v Speaker 2>the eyes of somebody else, flop city shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you deal with being a flop? Seriously serious?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say you make something that you think is amazing

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<v Speaker 3>and based on your metrics. It doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 3>likes or engagement or for whatever reason, it doesn't land

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<v Speaker 3>the way you intended.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you care? I care, but you have to double down.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta double down. It's one thing to know that

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<v Speaker 2>you yourself aren'nhappy with the way that something's been perceived

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<v Speaker 2>or interpreted. But don't let it be the common narrative, please.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say there is a fine line too, of

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<v Speaker 2>showing people the process and not normalizing what is a

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<v Speaker 2>very odd thing to be, which is an exceptional person

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<v Speaker 2>some exceptional people, and I would say that people who

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<v Speaker 2>have amassed a lot of success are exceptional. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a common thing. Do themselves a disservice by trying to

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<v Speaker 2>show up as someone who's regular. And yes, the narrative

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<v Speaker 2>is helpful sometimes, but it's not like, for example, I

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<v Speaker 2>was saying before. Tory Lane's R and B singer rapper,

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<v Speaker 2>quite famous for insert make the stallion, put the verb

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<v Speaker 2>in if you will. Tory Lanes is a very famous artist,

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<v Speaker 2>a very prolific artist, a very objectively successful artist, one

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<v Speaker 2>heaps of awards. Is renowned to be incredible because he

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<v Speaker 2>had a hit and it went viral, and people assume

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<v Speaker 2>that would have been the inception of his career. No,

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<v Speaker 2>this I released as mixtapes back to back to back

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<v Speaker 2>to back. When covers were a thing before everyone you

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<v Speaker 2>wet copyright making covers as soon as the song got popular.

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<v Speaker 2>He would make a cover as soon as someone was

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<v Speaker 2>up and would come and he would try and collaborate

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<v Speaker 2>with them. Now, if we look at his body of work,

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<v Speaker 2>he probably has one thousand songs available to be consumed publicly.

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<v Speaker 2>But people refuse to see that necessary that we can

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<v Speaker 2>have access to that. So we're not all like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we released one song as you Have Yes and you

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<v Speaker 2>Wonder why the Grammy hasn't come.

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<v Speaker 3>I was collaborating with a real Grammy, real Grammy winner

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<v Speaker 3>and another Grammy affiliated artist.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably one of my biggest successes.

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<v Speaker 3>And there have been other flop songs such as Tuna

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<v Speaker 3>I can't say it on air, but Tuna Dick. That

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<v Speaker 3>was a ode to a coworker that wouldn't let me

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<v Speaker 3>heat up tuna in the microwave.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow didn't get fired.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely made redundant about a year later, but I did

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<v Speaker 3>write on the coattails of that song for a little while.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for sharing.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and firms Flex and free.

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<v Speaker 2>Cater never miss a beat. If you are the type

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<v Speaker 2>of person who believes you don't have to say please

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you to your AI. You're Siri, You're Bixby,

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<v Speaker 2>You're Alexa. You are the weakest link, and you're the

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<v Speaker 2>first one they're going to take it. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just have.

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<v Speaker 3>A quick moment. Bixby is a real thing. Android uses stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, stand up now. I was off grid when chat

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<v Speaker 2>chat bet what's the called chat GPT? I was off

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<v Speaker 2>grid when chat GPT was announced. I was in Ghana

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<v Speaker 2>doing Eat Prey Love Barely online. So when I came back,

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<v Speaker 2>I was so behind the curb and I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was going to die out. I thought it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to I thought it was going to be discussed into obscurity.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't pay attention. Come to find out that four

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<v Speaker 2>months later, a new chat beat what is.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing called chat GPT?

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<v Speaker 2>A new chat GPT has launched that's apparently ten times

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<v Speaker 2>better than the original, And people who know what these

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<v Speaker 2>things mean are scared. So as I stay with Glee,

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<v Speaker 2>you should be scared to listen to this.

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<v Speaker 4>It's only been six hours since GPT four was released,

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<v Speaker 4>and these are the crazy things that people have been doing.

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<v Speaker 4>After you see these use cases, things may never be

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<v Speaker 4>the same again. For example, it turned this hand drawn

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<v Speaker 4>napkin into a fully functioning website, and that is because

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<v Speaker 4>GPT four can now process images and spit out texts,

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<v Speaker 4>whereas with GPT three you could only do text to text,

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<v Speaker 4>which means you can feed it an image and GPT

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<v Speaker 4>four can tell you why it's so funny or generate

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<v Speaker 4>social media captions based on the image that you feed it.

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<v Speaker 4>It can also do drug discovery, finding similar drugs and

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<v Speaker 4>making sure they're not patented, purchasing from a supplier and

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<v Speaker 4>including an email with a purchase order, finding loopholes in

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<v Speaker 4>contracts and exploiting them. You'll also see more accuracy in

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<v Speaker 4>GPT four compared to GPT three, which sometimes gave you

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong answer. My most hated subject tax accounting. You

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<v Speaker 4>can get it to interpret tax code for you. Of

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<v Speaker 4>course you always need to check with an accountant, but

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<v Speaker 4>basically you paste the whole code in there and ask

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<v Speaker 4>a question based on your situation, where it can interpret

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<v Speaker 4>the code and also give you the answer with reasoning.

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<v Speaker 4>To get access to GPE D four, you do need

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<v Speaker 4>to have a GPT plus once you've signed up. You

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<v Speaker 4>should see this at the very top. I'll be playing

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<v Speaker 4>around with GPT four, so follow on for more tips

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<v Speaker 4>and tricks.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like what people fail to disclose is that

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<v Speaker 2>to receive any benefit from using chat GPT, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to have a baseline of extreme intelligence, because I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>even know to ask these things to do these things,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone trust that the answer it's giving me should

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<v Speaker 2>be acknowledged, like it can help you with.

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<v Speaker 3>Tax What do you mean you don't even know what

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<v Speaker 3>a tax is? Okay at this point, no, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it like, what is the tax code? I'm being serious, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>chat GPT four do we endorse?

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<v Speaker 2>I endorse because I think the sooner, the sooner we

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<v Speaker 2>get serious about AI singularity, the sooner we start knowing

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<v Speaker 2>Asmov's law robotics, like we know our TikTok for you

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<v Speaker 2>pages the better stuff. It's really scary. And also I

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<v Speaker 2>think that a lot of us have this belief that

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<v Speaker 2>if things were to go down and buy down, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's robot AI was uprise, that we'd be safe.

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<v Speaker 2>No babes were the weak is link already.

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<v Speaker 3>And given how quick this came about, you know how

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<v Speaker 3>like things compound and then they get bigger really quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if you make a dollar a day and then

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<v Speaker 3>you do something with it, it can become.

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<v Speaker 1>A million dollars a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk an investing, don't make me go into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Take the paper clip to a house phenomena from like

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and four. If the same principles have been

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<v Speaker 3>applied to chat GPT, it could only be a matter

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<v Speaker 3>of months until humans. Until humans are rendered obsolete.

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<v Speaker 2>The only solution is becoming an analog babe, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>digital digital every day is not helpful. All your digital

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<v Speaker 2>marketers out of a job tomorrow. We need farmers.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, farm wants a wife.

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<v Speaker 2>We need Okay, we need we need plumbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to actually do the farming.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, what's a wife? Enough?

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, you got two women willing to go on farm

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<v Speaker 3>and what's a wife? Me and my old ego who

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<v Speaker 3>will come out because I'll be pretending to be a character.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you really go one farm with his wife?

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<v Speaker 2>Any kind of reality TV show dating situation.

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<v Speaker 3>I was at a friend's birthday lunch the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're not getting firms.

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