1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: My name is Tatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: woman and I'm here to acknowledge country t Glenn Young 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Ganya Niana, kaka ya Ya bin Ahaka Nian our gay 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: In Nimbini yakarum jar Dominyama, Domagahawakaman, damon imlan Bumba ban 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: Gadabomba in and now in wakah ghan On yakram jar Watnataa. Hello, 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: beautiful friends, we gather on the lands of the Aboriginal people. 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: We thank, acknowledge and respect the Abiginal people's land that 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: we're gathering on today. Take pleasure in all the land 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: and respect all that you see. She's on the Money 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: podcast acknowledges culture, country, community and connections, bringing you the tools, 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: knowledge and resources for you to thrive. 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: She's on the Money. 14 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 4: Hello and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 15 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 4: that's here to slay your finances this. 16 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: Christmas, Oh you funny. 17 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 4: I'm backsided And if your brain feels like a half 18 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: melted Pavlova right now, you are not alone. This time 19 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 4: of year is a lot, the family dynamics, the money stress, 20 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: the expectations, so this episode, it's not about budgets or 21 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 4: hacks or to do lists. It's a little gift from 22 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 4: us to you. Five things we wish for you as 23 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five wraps up and twenty twenty six rolls 24 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 4: in and helping me deliver them is Victoria divine Merry 25 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 4: Christmas vee h. 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 5: There you didn't expect to see me here? No, actually, 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 5: Christmas Eve. I you guys know, I'm such a Christmas fiend. 28 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 5: I love the festivity, I love the family, I love 29 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 5: the friend. Oh. 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: I love a half melted pavlova. You know what. 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 5: I am a believer that the pavlova is better this 32 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 5: second day, Like you know, when like you've had the party, 33 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 5: everyone like I was like, oh. 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: No thanks, no thanks. 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 5: On dessert that it goes into the fridge and then 36 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 5: you eat it the next morning for breakfast. 37 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: That is peak pavlova for me. 38 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: Anything that's been that's had time to marinate overnight is 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: more delicious. 40 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, a marinated pavlova. I've never been a big fan. 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: It's been too eggy for my liking. What is wrong 42 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 4: with you? 43 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: You know? 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: How did you get on this show? How did you 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: pass all the like tests we put in place, and 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: then finding out you don't like Panova. 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 4: I scrape all the cream off the top. 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 5: That's got an Australian not really, Oh my goodness. Well, also, 49 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 5: while I'm here, I just wanted to acknowledge that as 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 5: much as I love Christmas, I also think it is 51 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 5: a very good time to talk about how it's actually 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 5: not an easy time for everyone in our community. Like 53 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 5: I'm hearing it every day, and I'm just so grateful 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 5: that you guys feel safe enough to message me and 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 5: be like this is so trash be and I go, yeah, 56 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 5: like that would be trash, Like yes, I'm here to 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 5: empathize with you, like we know that it is a 58 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 5: really stressful period of time, whether that is as you 59 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: mentioned before, the family dynamic, even the travel, but mostly 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 5: at the moment we are still going through a cost 61 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 5: of living crisis, so our finances are taking a hit. 62 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 5: But then we're also just like stressed about that. So 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 5: many of you who have been messaging me saying, oh 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 5: my god, ve like, I'm so stressed. I can't even 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 5: look forward to Christmas because I've overspent. 66 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: So I'm giving these gifts. 67 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 5: Knowing it's quote the right thing, but I just still 68 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 5: feel like trash about it, Like there's just nothing that 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 5: feels good, and so I just I think that the 70 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 5: important thing to remind you of on Christmas Eve, before 71 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 5: Christmas Day, when we're probably all I don't know if 72 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 5: you do this, but like I over analyze everything. I 73 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 5: know you do too, because like the language of yours 74 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 5: is gift giving, and so you're probably like, oh my god, 75 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 5: did I get just enough? 76 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: Or did I do this? Or did I do that? 77 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 5: The good gifts and the things that matter at this 78 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 5: point of view have nothing to do with physical gifts, right, 79 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 5: Like they aren't wrapped in shiny paper, but they're full 80 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 5: of heart and love and care. 81 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: And I think. 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: That's exactly what we all need to be hearing this Christmas. 83 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 5: Like I am so grateful that tomorrow morning I'm going 84 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 5: to wake up with my husband and my son. 85 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, just like. 86 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 5: I'm just so excited, Like I have shake a pancake 87 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: mix and I cannot wait to try and make the 88 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 5: dodgiest shaped Christmas tree pancakes in the entire world. 89 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: And that's what I'm excited for. 90 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 5: And I just hope that you and our community can 91 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 5: find things that you're excited about tomorrow that don't involve 92 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 5: the gifts, that don't involve the fanciest of foods on 93 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 5: the Christmas table, that don't involve money. 94 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: But yes, honestly, that's not what it's about exactly. 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 4: And I feel like, you know, there are some people 96 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: who are stressed because they don't have the money, and 97 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: there's some people that are stressed or like just feeling 98 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: really sad and lonely because they might not have anyone 99 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 4: to celebrate Christmas with it, and some people do celebrate 100 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 4: Christmas at all, which is completely the case. 101 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: I'll still reply on Christmas Day. 102 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, if you want to say, hey, message us 103 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: and then I can, like I can check you on 104 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: video call and you can sit and you can. 105 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 5: Join me in my brothers. I feel like that's so wholesome. 106 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 5: But then also like, don't mope. I know that it sucks, 107 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 5: and I know that you're probably not looking forward to 108 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 5: it all, but like, if you've got the time, it's 109 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 5: Christmas Eve, we've still got time to save this. Write 110 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 5: a list of all the self carey things you could 111 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 5: do tomorrow so that you can put you first, like 112 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 5: you might be on your own but like, what's your 113 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 5: favorite movie, Let's watch that tomorrow. Do you have a 114 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 5: favorite food you could cook? Like, is there a fancy 115 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 5: drink we could go by? Like how do we curate 116 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 5: a cute day. 117 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: That's just for you exactly? 118 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: We could go on a big walk. Are you close 119 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: to the beach? Like, do you know what the beach 120 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: is going to be dead tomorrow? You could go on 121 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 2: the best self care walk? 122 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm manifesting good Christmas weather, So I just yeah, 123 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 5: I just feel like there's a lot that we could do, 124 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 5: And I think sometimes we just have to choose to 125 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 5: force ourselves to have a good day to yea, even 126 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 5: if it feels a little bit trashy starting. 127 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 4: Because if you don't have anyone else, you have yourself 128 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: and you're going to take yourself on a date. Yes, 129 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 4: that's gorgeous. So we've got our wishless prep. 130 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and color. 131 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 5: Of course, my n is color coded. It's also in 132 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 5: the notesap of my phone. 133 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's so satisfying, So be what's up first? 134 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: All right, I have written this one down because I want. 135 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 5: To start with I would say the biggest one, the 136 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 5: most classic, most cliched, totally overused Christmas, which of all time, 137 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 5: but I would say for very good reason. So my 138 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 5: first wish for you is it's not world peace that 139 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 5: you saw that coming. You were like this woman thinks 140 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 5: she's Miss America, although that would be very nice too, 141 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 5: I mean personal, financial, and emotional peace. So I'm literally 142 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 5: just starting with peace. Like I know that that sounds 143 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 5: a little bit cliche, and I prefaced it that it 144 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 5: was going to be. If anything, I am lame, Like 145 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 5: I'm lay that is fine, go back to basics sometimes, 146 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 5: you know, but it's so underrated. Yeah, Like we talk 147 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 5: about wanting success and we want money, and we want, 148 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 5: you know, other people to see us doing well, and 149 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 5: we want shiny things. 150 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: But like I would say, the older I get, the 151 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: more I'm like, I just want my peace. 152 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I want the flexibility to choose to not 153 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 5: have to rush. And peace matters just as much as 154 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 5: anything else. And it is so okay to just want that. 155 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 5: And the truth is peace doesn't actually just appear like 156 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 5: it's a conscious choice. Like you have to catch yourself 157 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 5: in the negative self talk. You have to be able 158 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: to cut. 159 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: Ties with people that you maybe need to. 160 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 5: Cut ties with so that you can find your peace 161 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 5: and prioritize your peace. But so many of us, especially 162 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: at this point of the year, and like, I don't 163 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 5: know about you, but I TikTok doom scroll all the 164 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 5: time and I talk about it all the time. And 165 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: the influencer halls at the moment of people just like 166 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 5: being like, oh, and I've bought this and this and 167 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 5: this and this is my Christmas list, and it's all 168 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 5: just so materialistic, and we find ourselves slipping into like 169 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 5: a state of comparison. Even I'm doing it, Like I'm 170 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: looking at people's Christmas halls and like them putting together 171 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 5: their kids Christmas stockings, and I'm thinking. 172 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: But have I just not done enough? Like am I 173 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: a bad mum? Like I have. 174 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 5: A very limited Christmas stocking for Harvey because he's not 175 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 5: even yet too I'm like, you don't need anything, Like 176 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: I could probably wrap up a pair of socks from 177 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 5: my husband that he's already worn, and my son would 178 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 5: rip it open and be. 179 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: Like, wow, Daddy socks, like exactly. 180 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 5: So I don't know, I just feel like I've been 181 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 5: slipping into this analysis paralysis or like comparison culture, and 182 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 5: like just put that in the bin, like My first 183 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: wish for you literally is peace. 184 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, what else. 185 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: Could that look like? 186 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 5: I suppose, especially when it's not just Christmas related, because 187 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 5: I think that I just wish this for you now 188 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 5: and into the future. But like not spiraling when you 189 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 5: see somebody else's gone on holiday on Instagram, not going, oh, 190 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 5: I can't believe they can afford that, Like that's crazy. 191 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: They probably can't. 192 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 5: So they can't. 193 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: They're probably in debt. 194 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 5: I also want you to forgive yourself if you're listening 195 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 5: to this episode and you're like, oh my god, VI, 196 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: I know, but I also already overspent, Like I already 197 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 5: overspent this Christmas Like it's cooked. 198 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: Eh, who cares? You already did it? Don't worry? Why 199 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: are you beating yourself up? 200 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: Also, the fact that you overspent means that you were 201 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 4: trying to buy things for either yourself. 202 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like are you just a good human trying to 203 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: do a good human Like just because you did one 204 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: thing that you're like, oh, I wish I didn't do that. 205 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 5: Like, let's just not beat ourselves up. The what do 206 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 5: you get out of that except for feeling like trash? 207 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 5: Like making people feel like trash doesn't help them change. 208 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 5: I want you to even have hopefully a tiny buffer 209 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 5: so that if an unexpected bill pops up, it doesn't 210 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 5: knock you out. So tomorrow, if hypothetically you open a 211 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 5: present and you're like, oh, I don't really need this. 212 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: Facebook marketplace is looking so good. 213 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that. 214 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 5: Could be like a little like I don't know, emergency 215 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 5: fund buffer like you true, thanks Sony Karen for that 216 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 5: present that just turned into my emergency fund. 217 00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: Very nice. 218 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 5: It's also and I talk about this all the time, 219 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 5: automate your money so that doesn't live rent free in 220 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 5: your head if you're always thinking about money, when your next. 221 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: Bill is you direct debits exist. 222 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 5: Set these things up automated, stick in an automation so 223 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 5: that your savings go to savings, your investments go to investments, 224 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 5: or your debt repayments go to debt repayments. 225 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: Just get it done. 226 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 5: And also, can we just remind everybody here and now 227 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 5: that your worth is not dictated by your bank account exactly. 228 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 5: Have you ever been like, I really want to hang 229 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 5: out with her. She's really cool. She's got so much 230 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 5: money in her bank totally that that doesn't happen. 231 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: That's not a real thing. 232 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: That doesn't happen and I but also, yeah, at the 233 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 4: end of it all, I really think, like whether you 234 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 4: have overspent, whether you've whatever. I just think, isn't it 235 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 4: so great that you have people that you can overspend on? 236 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean exactly? And even if that. 237 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 4: Person is yourself, you deserve all the treats in the world. 238 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 5: You deserve a million treats, you really do. You are 239 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 5: also the sweet treat. 240 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: You're the sweet treat, and you deserve a sweet treat. 241 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: So next on the list is another very Christmas y wish. 242 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 4: I we sa it is joy. 243 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so we didn't say that this wasn't going 244 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 5: to be lame like where we're like, this is going 245 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 5: to be stereotypical, but we'll make sure that it sticks. 246 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: Right Yeah yeah yeah. 247 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 5: So we see it all the time, people thinking that 248 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 5: they need to choose between like their fun or their finances. 249 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 5: And I think so much of the conversation around money 250 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 5: is about restraint. 251 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: And how many times do I say. 252 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 5: Your budget isn't about restricting yourself, It's about understanding, let's 253 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 5: not forget the money can also spark joy, yeap, Like 254 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 5: that's allowed. In fact, it's essential, Like Otherwise, if you're 255 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 5: restricting yourself forever, you're going to blow out or burn out. 256 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 5: And this one is so important, especially for those of 257 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 5: us who are like savers and we really struggle to 258 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 5: actually spend our money our community members who are chasing 259 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 5: joy with money, but then they're overspending in the wrong places, 260 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: Like that's not the type of joy we're talking about, Like, 261 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 5: how do you create a buffer so even when you 262 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 5: do spend on fun things, you don't feel guilty because 263 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 5: how many times do we hear on money diaries and 264 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 5: just from our community like. 265 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: Oh, v like I do it. I do. I have 266 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: a budget and it's for fun stuff. 267 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 5: But when I go and get my nails done, I 268 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 5: just feel really guilty because that was fifty dollars that 269 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 5: I probably didn't need to spend on myself. Hey sorry, sorry, 270 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 5: that's a good things. 271 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: It sparks joy, Like we don't feel guilty about that. 272 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: That's why we have a plan. 273 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 5: And I guess in addition to all of that, when 274 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 5: I say, oh, like, let's find joy, find joy in 275 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 5: the simple things like going for a walk, feeling the 276 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 5: cold air on your face, Like can you go for 277 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 5: a swim? Can you get a dollar fifty coffee from 278 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 5: seven to eleven. I didn't do it with someone you love, 279 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 5: light Beck. 280 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 4: Exactly, do you know what I mean? 281 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 5: Like, Yeah, I feel like the more successful I am, 282 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 5: and I'm so grateful for that. 283 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: But the more successful i. 284 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 5: Am, the more I'm falling back on the little things 285 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 5: actually being the big things. Yeah, yeah, the more I'm like, oh, 286 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 5: that walk goes so good, And how the hell are 287 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 5: you going to be grateful for the really big things 288 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 5: if you don't even care about the small things totally? 289 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 4: And I really think like if you're attaching guilt to 290 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: joy and you know, we we I think have been. 291 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 4: This has been drilled into us since like kids, because 292 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: if you aren't studying or if you aren't paying attention 293 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 4: in school, if you're doing anything that sparks joy, it's like, well, 294 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: you shouldn't be doing that, but we can let go 295 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: of that, you know. 296 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 2: We should be Well, you just choose not to do that, Like. 297 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you just you should be feeling joy and you 298 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: can feel joy and you're allowed to feel joy. Don't 299 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 4: attach guilt to that because then it takes all the 300 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 4: joy out of the little things. 301 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 5: Exactly, And like I want you to spend your money 302 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 5: on things that actually light you up, not what just 303 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 5: looks good and shiny on Instagram. And you need to 304 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 5: separate those two things because it's so easy. 305 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: I'm so easily influenced. 306 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 5: Beck, Like I see something on Instagram, and then I 307 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 5: see it a few more times, I'm like, maybe I 308 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 5: do need that. 309 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, Like what do you actually enjoy? 310 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 5: Are you doing that because you just want to feel 311 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 5: included and you know, want to join in on a 312 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 5: trend or you're like, oh my god, I'm so excited 313 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 5: to buy a polymerclay set and like start making little 314 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 5: trinkets like go run your own race. 315 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: Do what lights you up? Because, don't get me. 316 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 5: Wrong, feeling the buzz when you see like your debt 317 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 5: shrinking or your savings growing is actually incredible. So we 318 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 5: need to be balanced about this, right, So we're not 319 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 5: just spending only on joy and being like no, Victoria 320 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 5: said spark joy always like sorry, how good does it 321 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 5: feel back to. 322 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: Get out of debt? 323 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 4: Oh my god, for so good? 324 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 5: But also how much easier is life and how much 325 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 5: better do you feel when you're like, oh, I've got 326 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 5: five hundred dollars in my investing account or, I've got 327 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 5: money in savings, like everything feels easier. 328 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, So like that needs to be a priority as well. 329 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 5: So don't get me wrong, We're not just like throwing 330 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 5: money at things that spark joy, because I feel like 331 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 5: a lot of the time a lot of us are, 332 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 5: and this is maybe me being a little bit negative, 333 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 5: but us saying things like no, it's self care, I 334 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 5: deserve it. I'm really flat at the moment when the 335 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: reality is you haven't gotten off your button, gone for 336 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 5: a good walk, you haven't called a friend and caught 337 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 5: up with them recently, you haven't done anything actually to 338 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 5: nourish you. You're not drinking enough water, you're not actually 339 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 5: doing all of the basic fundamental self care things. But 340 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 5: then you're justifying a massage and being like, well, I 341 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 5: need it for my self care. Like, let's just get 342 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 5: our little house sorted, actually care about ourselves. 343 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: Let's look at our debt, let's get out of our debt. 344 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 5: Let's make sure that if you had a savings plan, 345 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 5: you're committing to that because long term, that's what's going 346 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 5: to pay off. Long term, that's how you're going to 347 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 5: feel better about yourself and feel good. Right, totally and 348 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 5: you know what that's going to do. 349 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 4: Spark joy, spuck joy. 350 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: See I wrapped it. 351 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 4: God, she's good. 352 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm really impressed with myself. 353 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 5: So let's go to a really quick break because I 354 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 5: don't think it's going to get better in terms of 355 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 5: me wrapping it there. 356 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: And on the flip side, we're going to unpack a. 357 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 5: Wish that has I guess central to She's on the 358 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 5: money from the very beginning, So don't go anywhere. 359 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: Okay, guys, we are back, and so far we've had peace, 360 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 4: we've had joy. And this next one isn't something you'd 361 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 4: normally see on a Christmas card, but I have a 362 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 4: feeling that if she's on the money made Christmas cards. 363 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: It probably would be it. Actually it is on our 364 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: Christmas cards from last year. 365 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: Well I'm terrible, sorry, it's very obvious you've been reading them. 366 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: Yep. 367 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 5: We did Christmas cards last year and you probably haven't 368 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: seen them because like I did custom Christmas cards, she's 369 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 5: on the money, branded and themed. But to go out 370 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 5: to all of our clients and like gotchness and like 371 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 5: to my team and whatnot. And the word is freedom. Yes, 372 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 5: like a lot of the just like complete side note. 373 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 5: One of the things we did for clients, not last year, 374 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 5: but a couple of years ago was I actually put 375 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 5: a gift card in there and I said. 376 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: It was the gift of financial freedom. 377 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 5: Oh that's because then on the inside I said that 378 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 5: you've got the freedom to do whatever you want with 379 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 5: this money. 380 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 4: That's cool. 381 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 5: I was, like, you could give it away, you could 382 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 5: give it to someone else, you could spend it on yourself, 383 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 5: you could get your nails done, you could like literally 384 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 5: do anything. You could buy a chocolate cake and eat it, 385 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 5: like I don't care give it to charity, but like, 386 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 5: this little money is the gift of financial freedom, and 387 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 5: I just thought that was really fun. So yes, it's 388 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 5: been on the cards, but you're not going to be surprised. 389 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 5: Freedom is the next thing that I wish for literally everybody, 390 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 5: And it's literally one of the reasons I started Sheese 391 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 5: on the money. I want every single person ever to 392 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 5: just have the freedom that money brings. Like I'm not 393 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 5: saying you need to get filthy rich, although if you 394 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 5: want to get filthy rich, you're in the right place. 395 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 5: I can teach you that too, but freedom to have choice, 396 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 5: like you can walk out of a toxic job. 397 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: You can say if you to a. 398 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 5: Bad landlord or even a bad relationship, because you've built 399 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 5: yourself a really good financial cushion, you could even say 400 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 5: no to a really bad date and then just get 401 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 5: a really expensive uber home. 402 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: That's it. 403 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? That is freedom? Like 404 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: imagine being able to be on. 405 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 5: This terrible date and walking out and getting in an 406 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 5: ubart ghosting them. 407 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 408 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that's a good thing. 409 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 4: To do, but you could, you know, and the feeling 410 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: of being like, yeah, I will get a nice cream 411 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: right now, Why the hell not? And not having really 412 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 4: transfer yourself from another account that has your bills money 413 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: in it would be so nice exactly. 414 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 5: And we also need to say that freedom isn't like 415 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 5: living like a billionaire and just being like, oh my god, 416 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 5: like you can just do whatever you want, just start 417 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 5: living back, it doesn't matter, it does matter. We need 418 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 5: to live within our means in a way that still 419 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 5: lets you sleep at night, because to me that's freedom 420 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 5: as well. Yes, Like for me, financial freedom isn't this 421 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 5: number that a lot of people are like, oh, what's 422 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 5: your financial freedom number? Back, and you might go, oh, 423 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 5: it's one point two million dollars because then I'll have 424 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 5: a sixty thousand dollars income and. 425 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: Like that is great. 426 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 5: And for me, I talk about financial freedom in that 427 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 5: aspect because to me, that's creating you know, sustainable income. 428 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 5: That's not what I'm talking about, Like, I'm talking about 429 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 5: the freedom that I felt when I was still. 430 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: In like forty thousand dollars worth of debt. 431 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 5: It's probably at like thirty five thousand dollars at that 432 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 5: point when I had finally built up enough of a 433 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 5: cash buffer and had an emergency account and I finally 434 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, like I can finally see 435 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 5: the light at the end of the tunnel. Yes, I'm 436 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 5: still in debt, but I still have like an emergency 437 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 5: fund and everything's tracking and I can afford my bills 438 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 5: and I'm not going into further debt, and oh that 439 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 5: felt good. Like I'm not saying that financial freedom is 440 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 5: this finite number that we are working towards for the future. 441 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 5: For me, it's about watching your debt string instead of 442 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 5: grow and feeling like every single repayment is I don't know, 443 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 5: reclaiming you, yeah, like and a little piece of yourself 444 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 5: and knowing that the small choices that you're making today, Beck, 445 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 5: they're opening doors in the future for you. 446 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: Like it just when you start to. 447 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 5: Put your financial future first, you start to go oh, 448 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 5: like it's it's not as bad. Like stuff happens much 449 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 5: quicker than I thought, Like you're not going to wake 450 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: up to morrow. Beck can be like, oh, well, yesterday 451 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 5: I decided to start investing in myself, and today I've 452 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 5: got a dollar Like. 453 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: That's not what happens. 454 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 5: But like you know, I keep using you as an example, 455 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 5: and I think that you're literally the perfect example because 456 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 5: I have been. 457 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 2: Working on your sorry, but for so long. 458 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 5: Like bech safe, bech safe, bech safe, Like let me 459 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 5: do your budget, let me do your cash flow. Fine, 460 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 5: I can rant and rave for as long as possible, 461 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 5: but that feeling, like I can tell you, And how 462 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 5: many times have I said, Beck, do you know how 463 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 5: good you'll feel when you have an emergency fund? Do 464 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 5: you know how good you'll feel once you start investing? 465 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 5: You're like yeah, yeaheah, whatever, whatever. What does it now 466 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 5: feel like to have a little investment fund? Did you 467 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 5: expect it to be where it is today? 468 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 4: It feels really good? And no, I didn't because I 469 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: was I could never ever save. And it's just been 470 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 4: like I keep getting emails from Cheersy's being like, we've 471 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: got your top up of five dollars, and I'm like, 472 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: I don't remember ever putting this top up on, but 473 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 4: five dollars has gone and I did not notice it. 474 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 4: And that's credible. And it just like keeps going up 475 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 4: and up and I'm not doing anything about it, and 476 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: it is just. 477 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 5: Knowing it's there and I don't want you to pull 478 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 5: it out, like and you haven't yet, which honestly slag queen, 479 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 5: thank you, but like just knowing. 480 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: They're like, let's pretend a really big, unexpected bill happens 481 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: and you. 482 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 5: Know, something really bad. Sorry, you've got access to cash. 483 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 5: Isn't that crazy? 484 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 4: That is crazy. It's never ever ever happened. It doesn't ever. 485 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: Feel like you're a little bit more free. 486 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 4: Definitely, there's definitely a part of it. It's like, I, yeah, 487 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 4: if if something went really bad and I needed twelve 488 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 4: hundred dollars right now, is it a twelve hundred dollars? 489 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 2: Is it twelve hundred dollars? Are you joking? 490 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 5: I keep saying like, oh, I remember when it hit 491 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 5: like five hundred, I. 492 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: Know, four figures. 493 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 4: Yes, could you believe that? 494 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: Hold on? Hold on, hold on. 495 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 5: So backtrack in the last twelve months. This is not 496 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 5: a recap. We'll do maybe a recap episode at some point. 497 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 5: But in twenty twenty five, Becksied invested twelve hundred dollars. 498 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, stop it. 499 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't. It's crazy. I don't remember more 500 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: than dollars. Yeah, I told you in January. 501 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 5: If I tell you down in January and said, beck, so, yeah, 502 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 5: you're going to invest more than one thousand dollars this year. 503 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: Would you believe me? 504 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: No, because I wouldn't. I can't afford that. And then 505 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 4: somehow it's just in there and I don't. It really 506 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: does make a difference, just putting those little roundups. 507 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: On, and it was good. 508 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 4: If you spend like I do, before you know it, 509 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 4: you'll have one thousand dollars in roundups going straight in there. 510 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 5: But that's the freedom, right, freedom, And like I don't 511 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 5: know if you can hear the energy in. 512 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 2: Both of our voices, like like, oh do you like it, 513 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: and you're like, oh yeah. 514 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 5: Actually, there's that level of excitement where you go, this 515 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 5: isn't like it used to be. This isn't the conversation 516 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 5: where we're talking about Okay, Beck, tell me how much. 517 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 2: Debt you in? Like how do we get out of that? 518 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 5: Can we find an extra thirty bucks a month to 519 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 5: pay off that debt? And like that would have been 520 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 5: unfathomable to you for a long time, where were like 521 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 5: the I can't find that, Like where would I get 522 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 5: an extra thirty dollars? 523 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: Like and when you started on the show, you were 524 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: talking about. 525 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 5: Like, oh, sometimes I have seventy nine cents in my account, 526 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 5: but I can make that work, and like that's good 527 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 5: and that's fine, and we still hold those like I 528 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 5: don't know if we call them values, but like sometimes 529 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 5: we still like that totally. 530 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: We just are who we are. 531 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 5: But like you've set up the frameworks to start building 532 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 5: your financial future. 533 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: That feels good. 534 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: It feels so good. And that freedom could even just 535 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: be like going to bed at night and knowing that 536 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: a deck collector is not calling you. You don't have 537 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: a miscall from them, no one's waiting for money. You 538 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 4: just that anxiety is kind of gone. So I really 539 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 4: do hope we can get we. 540 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: Have a thousand decent we can get there. And I 541 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: wish that for literally everybody in there. 542 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Okay, so freedom feels like a pretty big one, yes, 543 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 4: because it was yeah oh yeah, So where do we 544 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 4: even go from there? 545 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: Okay? The next one is growth? 546 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 5: Okay, so like probably not in the way that you're 547 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 5: expecting me to say, but like freedom is exciting, but 548 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 5: growth is what makes it happen. So like, you can't 549 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 5: just be free one day. You can't just wake up 550 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 5: and be like, I'm free, I'm moving to Bali and 551 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 5: I'm just not going to think about finances. Growth is 552 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 5: what makes it possible. And unfortunately, the truth is growth 553 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 5: doesn't feel. 554 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: A nice It sucks growing pains. 555 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 556 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 5: Like someone said the other day, I can't even remember 557 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 5: what or else. It's probably either a TikTok or a 558 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 5: podcast I was listening to. They were like, I just 559 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 5: don't feel ready, and they were like, ready's not a feeling. 560 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 2: Ready is a choice. 561 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: Ready is a choice, Like you say, Okay, I'm ready, 562 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 5: I'm just going to do it like I feel like 563 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 5: so much of the time, especially women, we say I 564 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 5: just don't feel ready, like we overanalyze things. I just 565 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 5: don't feel prepared. No, no, no, it's not a feeling. Yeah, 566 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 5: put that in the bin. It is our choice. Growth 567 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 5: is a choice, and you just chose to start doing it. 568 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 5: And it's a really small decision at the very start, 569 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden you've got twelve hundred 570 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 5: dollars in your Sharesa's account. It's showing up again and 571 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 5: again and committing to something over the long time is 572 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 5: choosing progress over perfection. 573 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: And that's the growth. 574 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 5: That I'm wishing for you, not oh my gosh, I 575 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 5: really hope that next year you get a thirty thousand 576 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 5: dollars pay increase and like money win. Like it's really 577 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 5: about being consistent. It's that twenty dollars a week that 578 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 5: you are saving. Done steadily, you can change your life 579 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 5: more than just like a one off burst of massive energy. Yeah, 580 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 5: Like we talk in our community all the time, like 581 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 5: what are things that you could do to like get 582 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 5: some extra cash in the door. 583 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 2: And that's so good. 584 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 5: And you might go sell all your clothes at a 585 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 5: market or you might like cull the stuff at home, 586 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 5: put it on Facebook marketplace. You might go do like 587 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 5: air tasker tasks. It doesn't matter, like you might be 588 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 5: hustling to get some cash in the door. But if 589 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 5: you just have that hustle for one weekend and be like, 590 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 5: I'm going to smash this out of the park and 591 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 5: you make five hundred bucks, money win, But like sorry, 592 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 5: the roundups are. 593 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: More powerful in the long term totally. Like you could. 594 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 5: Hustle, and if I sat you down and said, beck, 595 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 5: if you hustled all weekend and got five hundred bucks cash, 596 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 5: you'd probably be like, yeah, money win. That's a good 597 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 5: weekend totally, But like sorry, slow and steady wins the race. 598 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 5: And it's actually not that sexy growth. He's not sexy. 599 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 5: It is not glamorous, and sometimes it can just feel 600 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: like showing up with consistency, putting away twenty bucks a week, 601 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 5: like automating it so it automatically goes into your savings 602 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 5: or your investments, or into your debt repayments, and letting 603 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 5: that habit change your life more than just those one 604 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 5: off bursts of like I'm finally motivated and I'm going 605 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 5: to get out of debt. I'm going to do this 606 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 5: whole budget and cash flow and I'm going to find 607 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 5: five hundred bucks and then I'm going to put it 608 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 5: onto my debt and then I'm too exhausted to think 609 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 5: about it again. 610 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: So let's just like not think about that again. Yeah. 611 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, And we have all been there, especially me because 612 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 5: I have ADHD and I'm really good at locking into something. 613 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 5: It's also about getting curious instead of getting embarrassed about 614 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 5: what you don't know, and realizing that literally every silly 615 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 5: question is actually a step towards power. 616 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 4: Yes, and like we all say. 617 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: There's no silly questions, like, I've heard of silly questions. 618 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm also happy to answer them because I know 619 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 5: that they're not coming from. 620 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: A silly place. You might go, oh, it's a silly question, 621 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: but what's this? Sorry? Why is that silly? Were you 622 00:26:59,160 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: taught before? 623 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 4: Exactly? 624 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 5: I think a silly question is a question that you 625 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 5: ask a million times over, but you never listen to 626 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 5: the response. Yes, that's silly, And if you kept asking 627 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 5: me back, I'd be like, that's a silly question because 628 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 5: we've been here before. 629 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 2: Different if you're. 630 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 4: Not, if you can't absorb it, because it's quite complicated. 631 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: No, that's a different story. By that's your name, we 632 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 2: get story. 633 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, different story building resilience as well, So when something 634 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 5: unexpected happens, like a bill pops up, which, by the way, 635 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 5: this season, I feel like we're all just there's going 636 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 5: to be a bill. It's gonna come going to There's 637 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 5: going to be someone who comes and pokes you and goes, hey, 638 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 5: did you forget that sixty bucks? 639 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: You go, what the hell? 640 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 5: Yeah? 641 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: I got a parking ticket the other day. Oh no, 642 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: I never get parking tickets. Bare I think you should 643 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: you get parking tickets. I don't get parking tickets. 644 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 4: It's not like us. 645 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 5: And I thought that I was doing the right thing. 646 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 5: It said like one hour zone, and I was in 647 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 5: a rush. And then it turns out it was like 648 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 5: a one hour zone for all the times that it 649 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 5: wasn't a male zone and it's a male zone between 650 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 5: ten and twelve pm, males only. And I was like, yeah, okay, 651 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 5: I'm not a male and the male man must have 652 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 5: wanted to come because I ended up with one hundred 653 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 5: and twenty two dollars. 654 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: Fine, I think you should fight it. I already paid it. 655 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 2: Oh god, I already paid it. 656 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 4: The freedom this is what we talk about freedom. 657 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: I already paid it. 658 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 5: But I know it's on me because I should have 659 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 5: read the sign better. But I was just stoked that 660 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 5: I saw a one hour zone any of the shop 661 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 5: that I needed to go to, and it's Christmas and 662 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 5: I was in a rush, you know. 663 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: No I was, Oh yeah, it was annoyed. 664 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 5: The fine cost me more than the present I was buying. 665 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 5: Oh no, anyway, it doesn't matter. But I think that 666 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 5: it's being resilient so that if that happens to you 667 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 5: as well, or if a market dip happens, or there's 668 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 5: a job change, like, we can adapt and we don't 669 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 5: have to spiral, and that doesn't send us completely off. 670 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 5: Because I pulled money out of my emergency fund to 671 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 5: pay for that. Yeah, so I was completely fine, and 672 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 5: I was annoyed. I didn't like it, but that financial 673 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 5: impact didn't change my ability to pay my mortgage or 674 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 5: you know what. I come from a place of privilege. 675 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 5: But I also need to point out that I wasn't 676 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 5: always this way. I had to build this from the 677 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 5: ground up myself. So when I talk about, like, oh, 678 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 5: I have multiple mortgages, some people will be like, you're 679 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 5: so entitled. No no, no, no, I worked so damn 680 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 5: hard for that. And if I can do that, you 681 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: can do that too, Yes, you can do that, Like 682 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 5: it can't be that hard if I can do it, 683 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 5: because I'm telling you right now, I'm not the smartest 684 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 5: person in the entire world, and if I was, I 685 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 5: would just have a podcast. 686 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: Oh there you go. 687 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: Also catching your own triggers. 688 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 5: Yes, So whether it is like sales and you're getting 689 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 5: a little bit like excited about the sales, or comparison 690 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 5: or guilt spending, let's learn how to pause before like 691 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 5: autopilot takes over and we're already down at Tjmax buying 692 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 5: more sale Christmas stuff. 693 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: You know. 694 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 5: Also, we need to redefine our energy. That sounds really 695 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 5: hippie dippy. Doesn't it redefine your ends? I wouldn't pick 696 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 5: that from you, redefine your identity and energy because I 697 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 5: think so many times we just decide that something is 698 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 5: our narrative because we just. 699 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: Have felt it for so long that well it must 700 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: be true. Yeah, I know what you mean, Like, oh, well. 701 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 5: I'm bad with money, Yeah, so was I. At one point, 702 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 5: would you say I'm bad with money? 703 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 4: Now, beck, I wouldn't think so. 704 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: Well, I mean sometimes bad money. We've got a podcast. 705 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 5: But but we don't need to define ourselves at all. 706 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 5: But so many of us define ourselves as I am 707 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 5: someone who's bad with money. That's why I have to 708 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 5: listen to Sheese on the Money. You're someone who is 709 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 5: proactive around money. 710 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: Exactly. 711 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 5: He wants to be really good with money. You are capable, 712 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 5: you can improve every single day. Like, sorry, what is 713 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 5: even bad with money? He's bad with money? 714 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: Donald Trump? 715 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 4: Exactly, exactly, exactly. 716 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: Do you know what? 717 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 5: Like? 718 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 2: I know you'd be like, oh, is he really his 719 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: a billionaire? Yeah? Do you know how many times he's 720 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: got bankrupt? He is bad with money. He's so nothing 721 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: he is He should be. 722 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 5: Grateful and standing on that podium being like I'm grateful 723 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 5: for my intergenerational wealth. 724 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: Yes, because that is what he's holding him up. 725 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 4: That's it. Without it, he might be prob. 726 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: We're not bad her money. No, he bat it money. 727 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. Anyway, I think it's becoming more like yourself, 728 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 5: not about becoming a new you. You don't need to 729 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 5: completely redefine yourself and be like, oh well I need 730 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 5: to find this new identity. 731 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, who are you? 732 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: What do you like? 733 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 4: That's such a good point because I feel like I 734 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 4: am prone to overspending. Because I know that I'm prone 735 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 4: to overspending. It I'm just can you. 736 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: Just justify it because you're like, oh that's so me. 737 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, oh, I don't really have much self control, 738 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 4: but I'm like I could. If I start telling people 739 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 4: or telling myself I had self control, maybe i'd have 740 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 4: self control. 741 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: You can literally make anything up and make it stick. Yeah, 742 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: you really care? Like it's actually crazy? 743 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 5: Do you know what is going to be one of 744 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 5: my favorite things to live into twenty twenty six? 745 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: Delusion? 746 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, sorry, if I can see somebody else has 747 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 5: already done something, yeah, why can't I? 748 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 4: Next on this is delusion. We wish that, we wish 749 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 4: that for you in tween queens. 750 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but not delusion, not delusion. 751 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 4: No, the next one is tough. I think it's something 752 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 4: we will struggle with. 753 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: Delusion. 754 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 4: I've got so much delusion delusion, and I think they 755 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 4: go hand in hand. Confidence. 756 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 5: Yes, but you get more confidence by being more delulu exactly. 757 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 5: It's so as I said, I wish more Delulu on you. 758 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 4: Yes, the delulu comes first, and then the confidence from 759 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 4: the delulu exactly. 760 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 2: Like confidence. 761 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 5: This goes back to like me saying, oh I'm not 762 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 5: ready okay, but it's not a feeling, it's a choice. 763 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 5: Like being confident is a choice every single time, I 764 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 5: like get on Instagram and ask people, Hey, I want 765 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 5: to do it like a Q and a sesh, like 766 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 5: let's have like a little chat love catching up with 767 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 5: the community, and like, oh my god, some of your 768 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 5: questions are so unhinged. I love it. But always it'll 769 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 5: come up like how are you so confident? How are 770 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 5: you so good at public speaking? I actually just write 771 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 5: a little bit of delusion, but putting that aside, I 772 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 5: just choose that, like I'm not inherently confident, Like I 773 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 5: can pick it. 774 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: Do you want me to. 775 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 5: Stand in front of the mirror and pick apart every 776 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 5: single thing I'm not entirely confident about about my body? 777 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: Great, I can do that perfectly. 778 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 5: My personality, Oh, I can rip a new one for myself, 779 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 5: Like I can shred myself in a way that nobody 780 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 5: else could. And I know you can too, Like nobody 781 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 5: else is ever as mean to you as you. 782 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: Are to yourself. 783 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 5: And once you realize that, you can flip the narrative 784 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 5: and be like, do you know what, no one else 785 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 5: can be as nice to me as I can be 786 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 5: to me. No one's going to have my back in 787 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 5: the same way that I have my own back, because 788 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 5: it doesn't matter how much you love somebody, you're the 789 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 5: only choice for you. If every single person you've ever 790 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 5: known leaves your life, who you left with, yes, yourself. 791 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 5: So you've got to have your own back. And I 792 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 5: think it's true the hardest because when we loop this 793 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 5: back to money, confidence is not about how much money 794 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 5: you have in your bank account. I was in debt 795 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 5: when I started my business. As I said, we ride 796 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 5: on delusion. It's about the stories and the narrative that 797 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 5: you tell yourself. If you are consistently telling yourself you 798 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 5: are not good enough, what are you going to start 799 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 5: believing You're really going to believe it? Well, I believe 800 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 5: when I'm like, oh my god, I'm so bad at this, 801 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 5: Like I've just chosen to not be good at it. 802 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: Like that's exactly it. 803 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 5: And my wish for you is the kind of confidence, 804 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 5: like I'm not expecting you to get up on a 805 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 5: stage and do a keynote. That's a lot, but it's 806 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 5: the kind of confidence that drowns out the voice that 807 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 5: says you're not ready, or you're not enough yeah, or 808 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 5: that that's not for you. That's like how many times. 809 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 5: Do you go, oh, well, that's nice for them, but 810 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 5: that couldn't happen for me. 811 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Or I couldn't be that kind of pa I couldn't. 812 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: Oh no, like her, it's not true. Yeah, she negotiated 813 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: a pay rise like that's very her. 814 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, ah, that's I. 815 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: Don't have the confidence. No, you do. 816 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 4: That's the thing, Like I'm going to. 817 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: Slap you don't. It's twenty twenty five, nearly twenty twenty six. 818 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: You shouldn't slap people. 819 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 4: But like, I think you're allowed. 820 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 5: I would, though she would, I would go do you 821 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 5: think of that? And confidence is I don't know. It's 822 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 5: that little voice in the back of your head where 823 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 5: rach just says, oh no, not yet, not yet, You're 824 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 5: not ready. Do you know you can fight with that 825 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 5: little voice in your head. 826 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: You can. 827 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 5: You might seem a little bit unhinged, but you can 828 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 5: do whatever you want. Yeah, isn't that cool? Like I 829 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 5: am not embracing free will nearly enough. 830 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so true. Like, sorry, you're telling me that. Sorry. 831 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: If I go back to six year old Victoria and 832 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: I told her you can do whatever you want, go, 833 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 2: can you go to the supermarket and get fruit lives 834 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: and eat them for dinner. 835 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 5: I literally could beck, we are not embracing our free 836 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,439 Speaker 5: will enough. And you know when you flip it, that's 837 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 5: not confidence. But like you're saying I could stand up 838 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 5: for myself. 839 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: You're saying that I could just decide. Do you know what? 840 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: My body's pretty bloody good. Yeah, what a flipping narrative. 841 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: I know, Like ask for the pay rise? What's the 842 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: worst that could happen? Yeah? 843 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 5: They say no, and you go, okay, thank you so 844 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 5: much for that experience, Like you knew you deserved the 845 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 5: yes because you've done all the time, You've done all 846 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 5: the research and I know that you did. 847 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: But like, what's the worst thing they could say? 848 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: No? 849 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 5: Thanks for the experience in negotiating. I'm coming back to 850 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 5: you in six months. Yeah, it totally starts interesting. Start investing, 851 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 5: like you don't need thousands of dollars? 852 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 2: Do you know how much you need? Back? 853 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 4: Dollar? 854 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: One dollar even less? 855 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 4: Sometimes yep? 856 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 5: And how much did you start with? I think you 857 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 5: started with the free money because you use so. 858 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 2: You can even start for free because I'll just give 859 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: you ten bucks exactly. 860 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 5: Make sure that there are a link to our Shares's 861 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 5: code is in the show notes, so that if you 862 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 5: want to start with literally nothing and you just want 863 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 5: to invest with my money, you can, but I think 864 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 5: it's investing. But then not knocking your confidence when the 865 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 5: market wobbles a little bit and going. 866 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no, this is going to happen. This 867 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: is part of the journey. 868 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 5: We need to move past analysis paralysis by taking like 869 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 5: one step forward, even if those steps aren't perfect, even 870 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 5: if they're smaller than you kind of hoped them to be. Sorry, 871 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 5: they're still steps in the right direction, not exactly, and 872 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 5: I would be saying no to over committing. Sorry, I'm 873 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 5: so good at that. So this is maybe just like 874 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 5: a little side note for me story devine. Stop overspending, 875 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 5: stop over committing. Yeah, stop it, because I'm just doing 876 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 5: things just because everybody else is sometimes and. 877 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 2: You just don't need to. You just don't need to. 878 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: I didn't even like it. 879 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 4: So do you think you can go without good? Probably? Can? 880 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: Right. It's like how many. 881 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 5: Times have I said yes to the third coffee of 882 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 5: the day because my whole team are going down for 883 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 5: the coffee and I don't want to miss out. 884 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 2: But then get back to my desk and I'm all 885 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 2: shaky because I shouldn't have. 886 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 5: Said yes to the third coffee because I know I 887 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 5: can't have three coffees, but I just wanted to be involved. 888 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 2: I know, why is that me? Anyway? 889 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 5: I think it's about designing a life that looks different 890 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 5: from everybody else's because it just suits you, it suits 891 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 5: what you want to do, and knowing that that is 892 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 5: exactly what is right for you and exactly where you 893 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 5: should be exactly Like and the best thing I have 894 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 5: for confidence is stop looking at other people and just going, oh, 895 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 5: they're so confident. 896 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 4: Yes, And you know what's. 897 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 5: Crazy of it, because like that doesn't mean they actually are. 898 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 5: They could be completely masking. 899 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 4: You never know. The thing about confidence is like our 900 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 4: brains are so powerful and we are completely capable of 901 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 4: doing anything. The only thing holding us back is our 902 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 4: level of confidence, or this thing that we put on ourselves, 903 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 4: like oh, I'm not a good speaker, but say ah, 904 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 4: and you can be. It's just the confidence. 905 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: Level is a choice. Literally, everything is a choice. 906 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 5: And if a mediocre, middle aged white man can do it, 907 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 5: why the hell can't we? 908 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: Well, why the hell not? 909 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 5: I said exactly, So I'm going to wrap it up 910 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 5: here as like a little gift with a very big 911 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 5: red bow on it. So as we close out this 912 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 5: year and I guess step into the next, as much 913 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 5: as we've had a laundry list of like probably forty 914 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 5: minutes of me being like. 915 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 2: A peace and joy I love. 916 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 5: My wish for you is actually very very simple. It 917 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 5: is peace in your mind and in your money. It 918 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 5: is finding joy in the small things and also the large. Like, 919 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, like we can still celebrate the large, 920 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 5: but like I promise, the large things feel even larger 921 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,959 Speaker 5: when you can celebrate the small things too. Yeah, it's 922 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 5: the freedom to choose differently and live on your own terms. 923 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 5: It's the growth that actually comes from showing up for yourself. 924 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: Again and again and again, and then you're going to. 925 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 5: Look back on yourself in twelve months and be like, 926 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 5: oh my god, I am a different, better, more well rounded, 927 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 5: more well adjusted, confident human being. And I want you 928 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 5: to have the confidence to have your own back even 929 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 5: when it feels really hard, because it does feel really 930 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 5: hard sometimes it does. Yeah, and like you're never gonna 931 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 5: I'm so sorry, like imposter syndrome. 932 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: I believe in it fully, but I also just disregard it. 933 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: I have it. Yeah, I have just decided whatever. 934 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 4: Honestly, it does fade over time, So if you. 935 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 2: Have a will, when is it going to fade? Approximately? 936 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 2: I still feel like someone it's going to come. 937 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 5: Knocking and be like, who gave you a podcast that 938 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 5: you run a mortgage broking business? 939 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 2: Are you insane? 940 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 4: The voice does get quieter, though, so stick with it. It 941 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 4: was pretty loud for me, but I understand. 942 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 5: But that's where I have to be quite aggressive in 943 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 5: choosing yeah to show up and going no, if other 944 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 5: people can do this, I can do this. 945 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: No. 946 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 5: If you know my friends believe in me, I should 947 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 5: also believe in me. If Victoria believes in me, I do, like, yeah, 948 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 5: do you know what I mean? Like it's a choice, 949 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 5: and for some people the imposters injury, it does fade. 950 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 5: For other people like I just feel like the more 951 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 5: stuff I do, I go, are you sure? Like, are 952 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 5: you're gonna let me do this? 953 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: Like? 954 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 5: What do you mean? 955 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm grateful for it, but I'm delulu. 956 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 4: Start trying to view yourself the way your friends see you, 957 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 4: you know? Yeah, So I think it's a great place 958 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 4: to leave it. I agree from all of us that 959 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 4: she's on the Money. We are so proud of you. 960 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: Merry Christmas. 961 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 2: We really do. 962 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 4: Love you and we cannot wait to see what you 963 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 4: create in twenty twenty six. 964 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 2: But this is also not goodbye. 965 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 5: Okay, so we are not going anywhere over this holiday season. 966 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 5: Your other favorite podcasts might be putting their feet up, 967 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 5: but not us, No, So make sure that you are subscribed, 968 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 5: because we'll be right back in your ears with fresh episodes, 969 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 5: hanging out with all of you literally all summer all 970 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 5: New Years. 971 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 2: You think that are we going to stop? No, sorry, 972 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 2: we committed to. 973 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 5: The small steps and now they are consistent podcasts exactly. 974 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 2: So have a really good Christmas tomorrow. 975 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 5: If you don't celebrate Christmas, I just hope you have 976 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 5: a good flipping day. 977 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 2: Have a great day. 978 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 4: See you guys, by guys. 979 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 5: The advice shared on She's on the Money is general 980 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 5: in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. 981 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 2: She's on the. 982 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 5: Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be 983 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 5: relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. 984 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 2: If you do choose to buy a financial. 985 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 5: Product, read the PDS TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice 986 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 5: tailored towards your needs Victoria Devine and she's on the money. 987 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 5: Are authorized representatives of money sheper P T Y L 988 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 5: T D A b N three two one six four 989 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 5: nine two seven seven zero eight a F s L 990 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 5: four five one two eight nine