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Speaker 1: Here at Two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge

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Speaker 2: This land was never seated, always was always will be well, Hello,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 1: This is Georgie, Sonny and a very stunned appy Jellmy?

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Speaker 4: What was that?

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Speaker 2: Who got that?

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Speaker 1: I was trying something different? She was trying to be

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Speaker 1: a bit mysterious, a bit Oh, who's this girl next door?

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Speaker 2: When you're mysterious to become American? Is that what that was?

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Speaker 2: I was like, how do you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, girl next door?

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Speaker 2: American style?

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Speaker 1: Obviously what I was going for. Hello, Hello, how are

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Speaker 1: we welcome to another episode of Two Good Sports? Tell

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Speaker 1: me maybe I'm American, because I feel like that's where

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Speaker 1: all the viral sensations happen. However, this week, one of

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Speaker 1: our own dear listeners, and It's not Me, It's not Me,

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Speaker 1: has made the interwebs both curious and mad, and millions,

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Speaker 1: I mean millions of people consider the color of a

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Speaker 1: tennis ball.

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Speaker 2: A wild world.

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Speaker 4: Georgie, So I had the privilege of being on the

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Speaker 4: cheap seats and I saw a clip during the weekend,

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Speaker 4: as you well know, being on the you've hosted the

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Speaker 4: Cheap Seats, you just find clips and you're like, no,

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Speaker 4: And this was the clip and it is tennis players,

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Speaker 4: very famous ones, starting with Arina Sablenka discussing, yeah, she's

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Speaker 4: gone right, especially in Australia, the color of a tennis ball.

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Speaker 2: Now have a listen, Okay, what color is a tennis ball?

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, this question. It's bright yellow, slightly going

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Speaker 5: through the green. Yellow yellow for me, and I think

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Speaker 5: ninety of the tennis players are yellow.

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Speaker 2: This challenge the fabric of what I thought life was.

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Speaker 2: Are you Georgie well American? Who knows?

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Speaker 4: I just went a tennis ball's green, like as in

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Speaker 1: I thought that that was a shade.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a shade, it was a color.

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Speaker 4: It had not occurred to me that some people see

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Speaker 4: that as yellow. So went on the show, held up

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Speaker 4: the ball next to a lemon, and went, surely anyone

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Speaker 4: backed me up? Not a soul backed me up, like

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Speaker 4: I was the lone ranger seeing green.

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Speaker 1: And can I just say there are a few lonelier

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Speaker 1: places in a television studio on a show that goes

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Speaker 4: Live audience and everyone crickets and not having one person

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Speaker 2: With you, joby, where were you? Because I could have

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Speaker 4: I actually said that verbatim because they went to the

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Speaker 4: steady cook, pretend that you have a lemon and a

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Speaker 2: Where were I was dying out here?

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Speaker 4: Anyway, when you get to the viral bit, they decided

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Speaker 4: I am not on because I always joke that I

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Speaker 2: This could be the.

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Speaker 4: Third World War because people feel so angry that they're

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Speaker 4: There's Sir David Attenborough being referenced.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, what has he had to say?

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Speaker 2: Well, apparently he was someone that brought in that it

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Speaker 1: I think it's neon I know anyway, like if.

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Speaker 2: You want to have a laugh.

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Speaker 4: But also my argument was, now we understand that not

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Speaker 4: thinking like, wait, what do I think about this? Go

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Speaker 4: Do it right now, And you can't tell me that

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Speaker 4: Apple who let's be on a Steve Jobs wasn't mucking around.

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Speaker 2: That has to be green. Put the lemon emoji next

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Speaker 4: If you want a reference that is it is I

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Speaker 1: Can I say, for anyone who has watched the Australian

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Speaker 1: Open right or any hardcourt with that vibrant blue court colors, right,

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Speaker 1: there's no way that you're watching a match live and

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Speaker 6: we can all be there and we can watch Jelmy

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Speaker 1: God, that girl is color blind. It's so yellow. You're

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Speaker 4: But more the point as you, well, no, when you're

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Speaker 4: in studios, lights change the color of everything. So half

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Speaker 4: the comments are people being really angry that I've got

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Speaker 4: where's the lime? I'm like, I didn't bring a whole

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Speaker 4: fruit bowl. I should roana for depth. I didn't. But

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Speaker 4: this is the bit that George reminds me to remind you,

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Speaker 4: to remind us that we live in a strange world.

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Speaker 1: I would love for you to read out some of

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Speaker 1: and they are making me laugh.

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Speaker 4: So these are the ones that just are really handy

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Speaker 4: for me to remember that it doesn't matter what you do,

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Speaker 4: some people are just gonna come at you. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: that you just have to laugh it off, because again,

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Speaker 4: this is comments regarding me believing that a tennis ball

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Speaker 4: looks green. If lemon is yellow, a ball can't also

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Speaker 4: be yellow? Did she fail effing kindergart? Literal Professional tennis

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Speaker 4: players are saying yellow and people still say green. The

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Speaker 4: pure ignorant of this woman. So so far I'm dumb

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Speaker 4: and ignorant. So all the professional tennis players are telling

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Speaker 4: you it's yellow, but you're stubborn ass bitch knows best, dumb, ignorant,

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Speaker 4: stummas ad bitch, So just then, and they're angry in

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Speaker 4: my they're the ones that are public. The ones in

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Speaker 4: So I just think we just have to remember the

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Speaker 2: But it has been it has been interesting.

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Speaker 4: I think that I've had to change the notifications on

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Speaker 4: to rule out if people post on emoji, just don't

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Speaker 4: show me.

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Speaker 1: I know there's potential that you've brought this up as

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Speaker 1: every minor inconvenience that has ever happened to them on

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Speaker 1: you and they and your comments section. But can I

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Speaker 1: just say what a great sport it says so funny,

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Speaker 1: it's do you know what?

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Speaker 2: It's funny because you're fine. No, it's funny because it's us.

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Speaker 2: This just proves to me.

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Speaker 4: That the fodder that you and I talk about that

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Speaker 4: we're going, Nah, who really is gonna this is what

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Speaker 4: the people want in sports commentary. Debating the color of

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Speaker 4: a tennis ball lights people up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is how you reach everyone. Guys right here.

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Speaker 4: And is there anything more too good sports coded other

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Speaker 4: than the fact I brought up there's a pineapple on

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Speaker 4: the trophy?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I can't there? Actually there actually is it.

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Speaker 2: It's been a week.

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Speaker 4: It has been a week. And next time I'm on,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna wear a two good sports shirt. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: make some merch get to direct them back.

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Speaker 1: Sorry this one, I'm still scrolling.

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Speaker 2: There's so many comments.

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Speaker 1: There's one. When you free your mind from the concept

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Speaker 1: of only primary colors, your world will become much less annoying. Geez,

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Speaker 2: People become? Very philosophical, very philosophical.

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Speaker 1: Look what you've done.

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Speaker 2: You've freed my mind. The impact you've had, I've freed

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Speaker 2: my mind, and it's green. It is green anyway.

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Speaker 1: We just don't seek to boundaries, you know.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. Apparently colour's not binary either, who knows?

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Speaker 2: Who knows? Anyway, George, give me anything else.

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Speaker 1: Well, I have a little bit more of a serious

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Speaker 1: good sport bad sport, A bit of a bad sport,

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Speaker 1: but it's a reluctant bad sport. Let me explain. I

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Speaker 1: want to talk quickly about the Stephen May suspension.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, and his hit on Evans.

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Speaker 1: Who obviously suffered very significant injuries too.

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Speaker 1: as I have said on this podcast many times before,

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Speaker 1: I will be the ultimate defender of you've got to

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Speaker 1: go hard when anything, when it's any kind of contact

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Speaker 1: about concussions. I mean, forgive the phrase, but color me

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Speaker 4: Didn't think he should have been suspended a lot of

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Speaker 4: people on talkback radio as I was driving in saying

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Speaker 4: the bounce of the ball, whether you're going to get

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Speaker 4: to the ball, And the tribunal said themselves, we agree

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Speaker 4: that he didn't intend to bump.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and this was my thing as soon as the

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Speaker 1: AFL lawyer. So this went to the tribunal was like

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Speaker 1: a three hour hearing. I think it was. Stephen May

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Speaker 2: To know, I do believe that you need to show

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Speaker 2: reasonable care.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that that's in that split second. It

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Speaker 1: was one of those freak accidents on the footy field.

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Speaker 4: I do think that he's paid a bit of Stephen maytax.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I agree.

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Speaker 4: I agree in the same way that Toby Green has

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Speaker 4: a higher tariff than any other player in the game.

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Speaker 4: I think the fact that he has a history of

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Speaker 4: being that bit of an argi bargie player. I mean

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Speaker 4: three weeks some people are saying he might get up

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Speaker 4: to five, it might be season ending. Look, it's just

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Speaker 4: one of those things that I think now and again,

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Speaker 4: a lot of angry people and talk back this morning saying,

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Speaker 4: so what we just adjudicate the game based on outcome?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get concussion, you get suspended. That's where we're

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Speaker 1: I have traditionally been on this podcast very vocal in

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Speaker 1: it's really shaken me.

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Speaker 2: It's shaken me. This decision.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure I believe in it.

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, Stephen May himself got concussed in

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Speaker 1: Put that on our tombstone. Everyone who meets Liz falls

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Speaker 5: Well, it's so lovely to be you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for that beautiful introduction, Georgie tuney.

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Speaker 5: They couldn't give a shit.

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Speaker 2: Oh? Mate, I can't every second of every day.

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Speaker 4: But netball has always had a special place in my heart,

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Speaker 4: of what you think now, George, George like for absolute seconds?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you are not podcasting, what is your occupation journalist?

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Speaker 5: So you like to talk to people? Yep, I reckon.

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Speaker 5: You know, you threw me, you threw me? Or how

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Speaker 4: One seventy. They kept pushing me into w d oh god,

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Speaker 3: That's a big But you threw me with your with

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Speaker 1: That's actually that's kind of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now they say that to me, good shooter, You've got

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Speaker 4: For me, I had the great, great privileges sitting opposite

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Speaker 4: Because honestly, if you ask most Australians who's the best

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Speaker 3: And look, I've got to say that the time that

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Speaker 5: So it's been a patent through while whole life.

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Speaker 3: But you know, Coxy and I the first time we're

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Speaker 3: She was head of netball when Netball was at nine

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Speaker 3: and Keeler was really naughty and she made Catherine on

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Speaker 1: Brown Eyes, I'm expecting you to say that, Queen Liz.

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Speaker 3: It was so naughty, Like, now we'll be put on

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, we're going to be best friends.

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Speaker 1: I see you not.

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Speaker 4: We have similar skill levels. I feel like we may

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, the bar is live because on.

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Speaker 1: You reflecting and you know, talking about your job being

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Speaker 1: yourself and the divine brown eye cocks. How do we

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Speaker 1: do that? How are we going about that? How are

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Speaker 1: you going about that? Because Liz, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I did legitimately ask tell me you know, when can

444
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: she eat? I don't know when you can sleep, let

445
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: alone breathe. You're so busy and now you are chair

446
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: of netflorl straight, Like, what are you doing to make

447
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: sure that your job or your role in that area

448
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: at least is obsolete soon?

449
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

450
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I don't sleep because I lie in bed at

451
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 3: night and think about all the things that I want

452
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 3: to do with my sport. And you know I used

453
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 3: to sit outside the administration and be quite critical.

454
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 5: And then I had an epiphany one day.

455
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 3: I thought to myself, either I can continue to do

456
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 3: this and really go down in history as you know,

457
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 3: an ex athlete with relevance deprivation syndrome, or I can

458
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 3: actually get in and do something about it. And I've

459
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: really enjoyed sort of getting my head under the bonnet,

460
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 3: and it confirmed my earliest suspicions at NETBIW has this

461
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 3: enormous potential the.

462
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 5: Thing that really holds us back. And I got to

463
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 5: ask this in a meeting yesterday.

464
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 3: You know how come AFLW and NRLW and BBL Women's

465
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: BBL have sort of shot pass us. It's simply money, right,

466
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: we don't have the money to invest in really critical

467
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 3: things that we need to do. And we're in the

468
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: process at the moment of trying to change that around

469
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: and we're seeking investment into super netball. The product is fantastic.

470
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 3: The athletes do an amazing job week in week out.

471
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 3: They put on a great spectacle. They are supported so

472
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 3: much by the netball community. And that's not just playing community.

473
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: It's a fan community. And we're on track. It's you know,

474
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 3: it's it's a preliminary final this weekend for sun Corps

475
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: Super Netball and already we've broken the record that we

476
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: set last year for the most attended women's sports league

477
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 3: in Australian history. Right, so we are absolutely on a roll.

478
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: And our crowd averages are our peak craws up.

479
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 5: You know, you go to Perth and Ivy, that's where

480
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 5: you're from.

481
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 2: But you know, go the fever to early to early.

482
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 3: You know, we've got we've got great athletes, we've got

483
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: really committed fans. We know that fans of women's sport

484
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 3: are more likely than fans of men's sport to identify

485
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: to see the athletes as role models. They're far more

486
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 3: likely to view positively a sponsor of the sport of

487
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 3: an athlete.

488
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 5: So we've got this.

489
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 3: Really great sort of research base now about the behavior

490
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 3: of women's sports fans, and netball fans in particular are

491
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 3: even more likely to sort of sit on that high

492
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 3: on that spectrum. And you know, anecdotally you hear that

493
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: netball fans speak to sponsors and they're really grateful for

494
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 3: the sponsorship. And you know, we know we do really

495
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: well in terms of streaming, and you know, people want

496
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 3: to pay to get netball content. I think the thing

497
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 3: that we have really struggled with is simply having the

498
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: resources to tell our stories. Well, we've got great athletes

499
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: with great stories from all around the world.

500
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 5: Super Netball is the world's best netball league.

501
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: You you only have to scratch the surface to find

502
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 3: athletes from Jamaica and Africa and you know England and

503
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: they've all got fantastic stories. And our Australian players all

504
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: have these brilliant stories. We just haven't had the money

505
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 3: to invest in storytelling and that's one of the things

506
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 3: that we're really looking at. Okay, how do we change that?

507
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: How do we partner with companies who are really mission

508
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: aligned to netball and who share the same value is

509
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 3: to tell our stories really well.

510
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 5: So that's probably the piece that's missing.

511
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: And once we start telling those stories, then Coxy and

512
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 3: I are becomently obsolete.

513
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 5: Right we just sit in the background drinking sharaay.

514
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if it's actually possible

515
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: for you to be obsoletely is, But let's talk about

516
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: the product. Let's talk about some of those partnerships. I

517
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: want you to take off your chair hat just for

518
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: a second and put on your sister act fangirl hat. Yes,

519
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: what was your reaction when you heard that Whoopie Goldberg

520
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: was interested in having super Netball be broadcast on her

521
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: fucking network?

522
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 5: Oh?

523
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 3: And you know, my god was smacked. It was amazing, right,

524
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: And the best part about it was that she her people.

525
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 5: Actually contacted us.

526
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: They saw netball on our socials, actually came across the

527
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: game looking at our socials and went, oh, we need

528
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 3: this on our network. Right, So here's this woman's women's sport,

529
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: you know, played by women, administered by women, umpied by women,

530
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: and the crowds for not they saw, went yet, we

531
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: need that, So they contacted us.

532
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 5: There was a meeting.

533
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: Pretty soon after the meeting, our team sent a heap

534
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 3: of merch to Whoope and her team and that looked

535
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 3: so you know then you.

536
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 5: Know, so I sort of knew that was going on.

537
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: And then one of them just sent me out of

538
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: the Blivies video of Whoopee Goldberg talking about netball, and

539
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: I got really emotional. I was like, this is amazing.

540
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: It's the start of something really big. And I have

541
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 3: known for years, since I was a little tacker, that

542
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: netball is this amazing sport. And you know, you guys

543
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: sort of talked about it before. It does so much

544
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 3: for young women. Increasingly, it does enormous amounts for young men.

545
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: We are the fastest growing sport for men and boys

546
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: in the country, and it's sort of been a bit

547
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: of a secret and we're not very good at beating

548
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 3: our chest about it. And suddenly he's he's Whoopy Goldberg

549
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 3: talking about it. So it was a real light bulb

550
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 3: moment to say, yet, we've got to get out there,

551
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 3: we've got to push it, we've got to talk about it,

552
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 3: we've got to talk it up and to have you know,

553
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 3: we're now on the all Women's Sports network. And it

554
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 3: does confuse me though, Like I see their socials and

555
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: it says, you know, super netbaw two am Eastern Standard time,

556
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 3: and I'm like, no, that's wrong. And then I realize

557
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: they're talking in US times.

558
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 5: It confuses me, right, I'm like, no, it teams got

559
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 5: it wrong.

560
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 3: No, our teams are okay, it's fine, it's fine, and

561
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: you know, and then you know, we've got another a

562
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: streaming deal with Invalley and like there's you can essentially

563
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: access the sport globally and that really plays into the

564
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: bid that we're talking about at the moment, which is

565
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: a bid for the twenty thirty two Olympics. We're working

566
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 3: really hard to line to make sure we line up

567
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: everything so that when that process opens, either at the

568
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 3: end of this year or early next year, we're good

569
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: to go. I think this is a once in a

570
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: generation moment for netball to become an Olympic sport. And

571
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: you know, if you think I was emotional when Whoopie

572
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: Goldberg talked about netball, if netball was names as an

573
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 3: Olympic sports that three months, I've been the feeder position,

574
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 3: crying with happiness.

575
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 5: It'll be amazing.

576
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 4: Yes, And honestly, and I'm sure you felt this way,

577
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 4: But we sit back where like, I mean, rock climbing, skateboarding.

578
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: Fine, netball fine, yeah, Like come on.

579
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 5: And I deny any of those sports.

580
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: Actually, one of my I coached my my daughter's under

581
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 3: fourteen's club team netball team, and one of the girls

582
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: in the team, her brother is a really talented skateboarder,

583
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: and I suspect he'll end up on the team for

584
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 3: Brisbane twenty thirty two. So I'm hand on heart. Yeah,

585
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: I'm here for the skateboarding. But yeah, look, I think netball.

586
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to disrespect any other sports, but I

587
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: think netball has certainly it's yeah, it's the you know,

588
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: it's the largest women's sport in Australia. You know, should

589
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 3: should netball get into the Olympics. You know, Olympics have

590
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: hit parody or very close to parody with athlete numbers

591
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: male and female athletes. But what netball would bring would

592
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: be parody around coaches, administrators, umpires, and that's really the

593
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 3: next step. So I think, you know, I think netball

594
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: would have and it would make an enormous contribution to

595
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 3: the Brisbane twenty thirty twos.

596
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: Well, we actually sent more women than men to Paris

597
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 4: as a country, and I think that that's such a

598
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 4: good mark for where we're at.

599
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: But I also think you've got it. In order to.

600
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 4: Keep young girls participating in the sport, they need to

601
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 4: be able to see goals that they want to achieve

602
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: and see it as because as you well known, as

603
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 4: you've alluded to, it is such a highly participated sport netball,

604
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: but it is hard when you start getting to the

605
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 4: amount of hours that need to be committed to that

606
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 4: whether or not they keep playing into later life, and

607
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: having something like an Olympics on the horizon just does

608
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 4: so much to keep women in the sport.

609
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, And I think you know our secret sources.

610
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: You know we're a massive participant sport for women, but

611
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: when you take a step back from playing or from

612
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: the women on the.

613
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 5: Court, we actually outstrip every other.

614
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 3: Sport in the world for female administrators, for leaders. You know,

615
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: you look at our national body, We're a female CEO.

616
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 5: We've got a female chair. Six of the nine board

617
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 5: members are women.

618
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: If you look at the state bodies, I think there's

619
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: two men who are chair. All the other state bodies

620
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: are chaired by women. All the CEOs of women. Like

621
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: that leadership role that women even in sports where the

622
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: participants are achieving parody. Netball is just streets ahead, and

623
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: it's a sport where women often learn how to lead.

624
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: And so I think we need to also tell the

625
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: story of our athletes, but also tell the story of

626
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: our sport as a massive economic driver for this country

627
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: because it creates female leaders, and it creates women who

628
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: are resilient, who can communicate, who can work as part

629
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 3: of a team, who are prepared to step up and

630
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: lead even when they're not on the court playing. They

631
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: learned so much in the periphery and I think that's

632
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: a great story that our sport can tell.

633
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: Well, tell us the story then, Liz, of this final

634
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: series because we have one Grand finalist locked in Abbey's fever.

635
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: Oh that M word in sport momentum.

636
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: It's a capital M for the fever. At the moment,

637
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 4: they have just been taking everyone in this right. But

638
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: it's the opposite for the Swifts, who started the season

639
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 4: so strongly and now they've sort of fallen into this

640
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 4: potential qualifier for the Grand Final taking on the Vixen's.

641
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 4: It's everything you could want. It's New South Wales taking

642
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 4: on Melbourne. How you've seen the game this weekend? And

643
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 4: who do you think takes it out overall?

644
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: Well, now that I'm the chair, supposed to be Switzerland,

645
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: but every one day that I'm Swiftzerland.

646
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: I was like, as soon as Joey was talking about

647
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: the hole that the Swifts found themselves in, I was like,

648
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: it's a good thing Liz isn't in this studio.

649
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 4: The elbows had come out because they couldn't have had

650
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 4: a stronger start to the season and especially they were

651
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 4: taking everyone in their wake, and then all of a sudden,

652
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: it's like, hang on, as they say, you've got to

653
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 4: play the good.

654
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: Sport at the right time. You got to find you

655
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: for Yeah, exactly.

656
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 5: You don't.

657
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't win the trophy after the first eight

658
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: rounds and unfortunate if the finals were held after round seven,

659
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: round eight, the Swifts would have been holding the trophy.

660
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: So they've fallen in a hole. But I think the

661
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: thing that really stands out to me about the Swifts

662
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: is that they are a team full of superstars. So yes,

663
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: you know this is a this is still or die

664
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: for them, so but they've got the players who can

665
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: bring it. Having said that, they come into this preliminary

666
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: final and a massive down and like that was a

667
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: record loss to the Fever last week, and I was

668
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: watching it enough and I thought, this is enough to

669
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: drive me to drink and in fact, so you know it,

670
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: it was a really unswift slight performance.

671
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 5: And I know that they're hurting.

672
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: I'm great mates with briani Ak or their coach, and

673
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 3: she I was messaging her after the game and she

674
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 3: was really hurting, So you know, I know they've had

675
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: a pretty honest week, but they're facing a Vixen's team

676
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: who are coming off an amazing game against the Thunderbirds

677
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: you know, to be Adelaide at home in a final.

678
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: The last time they played Adelaide in a final was

679
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: a Grand Final last year and they lost by you know,

680
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: the slimmest of margins. So Vixen's are on the way

681
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: out sweeps of Copt to beating. But I think these

682
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: two teams are teams that absolutely bring the best out

683
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: in each other and I think it's going to be

684
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: a terrific game in netball.

685
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 5: So I'm really excited. I hopefully.

686
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: Will be able to sit in my land room and

687
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: really enjoy it. So yeah, and then I think it

688
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: sets us up whoever wins. Both of those teams are

689
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 3: really capable of taking it to Fever the following week.

690
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's super, super exciting, and you know, I

691
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 3: hope we get a big crowd at Kutos Bank Arena

692
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: on Sunday in Sydney and then an even bigger crowd

693
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: at Rod Lavery and Melbourne the following week.

694
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: Well, I think the thing is and all credit to

695
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: the Fever.

696
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 4: It was almost the perfect game, like it was almost

697
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 4: like every player on that side played out of their

698
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 4: skin at the one time. And sometimes the planet's just

699
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 4: aligned for you and you can tell those fits are

700
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: there going what can we even try to do here?

701
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: It was a pretty remarkable game to watch.

702
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: It was and you know, lots of people talk about

703
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: Janielle Fawllert Nembad.

704
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: And what a story that.

705
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: It was an amazing story. And she's a phenomenal athlete,

706
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: and I think, you know, for her, the tragedy of

707
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: what happened to her earlier in the year when she

708
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: lost her baby in pregnancy, I think it spurred her

709
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: onto two bigger and better things this year. She's incredibly fit,

710
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: she looks really focused. You know, she's amazing. But I

711
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: think to just focus on her loser side of the

712
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: fact that it was probably the best all court performance

713
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: that I've seen in Fever ever, certainly this year, maybe

714
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 3: even ever. It was from the you know, from their

715
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: goalkeeper down, everyone was on song. And what really struck

716
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: me was that when Fever got a turnover, the speed

717
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: at which they moved the ball down court. You know,

718
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: Janille was at the end of that and she repays

719
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: them every single time they turned the ball over. And

720
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 3: you can't underestimate how much confidence that gives you as

721
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: a defender. You lift your game because you know when

722
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: you get the ball it's going down the other end

723
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: that it's going to get scored off.

724
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 4: So they wasted it again exactly.

725
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: But you know, she's phenomenal. But I think you've got

726
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: to give credit to the entire Favor team. It was

727
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,719
Speaker 3: a phenomenal performance. It was you know, as much as

728
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 3: it says play so poorly, I think they weren't allowed

729
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: to play well because the Fever were.

730
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 5: Just so good.

731
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Vixen's had very cool heads, is the

732
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: way I would describe against the Thundbirds. They just seem

733
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 4: to come at it with this maturity and this energy

734
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: where and it's hard against the Thunderbirds as well. They

735
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 4: were going to try to go back to back to back,

736
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 4: so you knew that they know what it's like to

737
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 4: get into the big dance. But there was just this

738
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 4: calmness about them that I went or hang on it.

739
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 4: I hate to say it, Liz, but it's not a

740
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 4: great no.

741
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: It's dicey for I'm just saying she's doubting them.

742
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: They're coming in.

743
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 4: They're coming in from different points, right off the back

744
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 4: of the games that they just played, and it's going

745
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: to be But again, like, I love talking about this,

746
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 4: and I have a privilege of working on offsiders and

747
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 4: getting to talk about netball predominantly with someone like Bianka

748
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: Chapfield who comes in and I say it every time

749
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: I see the crowdshot, So I'm like, can we just

750
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: freeze on the crowd shot? Everyone's losing their mind? Yeah,

751
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 4: the stadium is packed, they're all merched, and I'm like, no,

752
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: wonda whoopee wants in? Yeah, of course, because you look

753
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 4: at that engagement and you're like, there are sports, namely

754
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: NRL where where sometimes you see these pans of the

755
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 4: crowd and you're like, hang, people must be watching at

756
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 4: home because they don't rock up.

757
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: Netball fans rock up and you can't hear yourself. Yeah.

758
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: Well, and people can't buy themselves by their daughters enough merch.

759
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, don't don't even get a started. We are

760
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: merch fans.

761
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: We love some merch.

762
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: We will bury us in merch, bury us in merch.

763
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: I seem to remember you telling me, Liz that you

764
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: coached your daughter's netball team.

765
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: Oh my, did you yes? I still do yes, I

766
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: we still do yes.

767
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: So can you imagine can you imagine.

768
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,479
Speaker 2: Your coach being lizz Ella?

769
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, your coach. They don't care. They're fourteen year old girls.

770
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 3: They really couldn't they Again, they don't give a shit

771
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: like my kids. They don't care because I'm just the

772
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 3: one who makes a run hard at training and yells

773
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: at them on Saturday. So they don't care. And you know,

774
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: I live in a small town. The opposite people are like, oh,

775
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: I imagine Lizella's coaching, rocking up and coaching you know,

776
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: your opposition coach.

777
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 5: They don't care. They couldn't care less.

778
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: It's but that's the beauty.

779
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: It's like, it's the beauty of kids' sport, right, Like

780
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: I just all I care about for these girls is

781
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: that they enjoy the sport.

782
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 5: They continue to play the sport.

783
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: You know, I know we're at that critical point where

784
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 3: where girls can drop out, and like, I just want

785
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: to make sure that they stay in the sport and

786
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 3: take all the good things from the sport. And like

787
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: I've won my World Cup, so I don't need to

788
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 3: win my World Cup.

789
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 5: On a Saturday.

790
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: So I'm probably a bit more relaxed than people might think, Majie.

791
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 3: If we make the Grand Final this year, I won't

792
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: be relaxed. But I just love coaching them because it

793
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: actually just keeps reminding me when things get really hard.

794
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: When I sit on when I sit in this chair role,

795
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: I just think about those girls. It's them that drives

796
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 3: me because I think they deserve a sport that is

797
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 3: a Tier one sport.

798
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 5: Oh.

799
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: I just know that if Jelmy and I were coaching

800
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: the opposite team and we rocked up and we saw

801
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: you with a.

802
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Selfie pre game, I'm like, guys, get your own oranges.

803
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I'm going to go talk to the Queen.

804
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: I'd be like sco is knee do I bound one.

805
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: I'd be like scorers pens away, pens away, get rid

806
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: of them, libs, keep them packed, keep them packed by leaving,

807
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: we're leaving.

808
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 4: I do love kids as a universal leveler. Because it's

809
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 4: funny you say that. I saw a photo during the

810
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 4: week of Chris Judd was coaching under nines and one

811
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 4: of the boys is doing a handstand as so far

812
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 4: from listening to one of the greates of the game

813
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 4: that he's just like, I just don't care, and there's

814
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: something really nice about that where it's like they're here

815
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: to throw the balls, to kick the ball because they

816
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: love it. And I think in sports administrators you're like,

817
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: how do I extend that love? And it's amazing that

818
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 4: you mentioned our favorite team, the Kelpies and how well

819
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 4: men's netball is doing. How important is that men's growth

820
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: to the opportunity of having something like netball ad an

821
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 4: Olympic Games.

822
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's super important, and I think there's

823
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: a couple of points to it, right, you know, we

824
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: want to be in the Olympics. Having the men's game

825
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 3: as strong as it is is really helpful for that.

826
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: But I think the bigger picture with men and boys

827
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: coming into the sport is that we are unashamedly and

828
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: you'll see this in our strategic plan when it comes

829
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: out a bit later this year. We are unashamedly leaning

830
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: into the fact that we are a sport built by

831
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: women for women, and I think that is our strength,

832
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 3: that is our superpower, that is our secret source.

833
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 5: But that's not to the exclusion of men and boys.

834
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: We're actually really clear about the fact that there is

835
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: absolutely a space for men and boys in our game.

836
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: And as much as our game teaches women to lead,

837
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: it also has the opportunity to teach men and boys

838
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: how to be led by women. And I think that's

839
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: a really important thing that our sport can deliver. But

840
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: also our sport is a place for young men and

841
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: boys who don't quite find what they need or what

842
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: suits them in the football.

843
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 5: Codes or with the cricket codes. Right, it's another option.

844
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: It's like AFL cricket, rugby league, rugby union places where

845
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 3: girls can express themselves. Now I think we can have

846
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: boys playing and we offer them something different. My little girl,

847
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: for example, plays rugby union. She's a talented player, she

848
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: plays state championships, and she's got both of these really

849
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: great sides to her sporting sort of journey. And my

850
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: little boys about to play in his first netball tournament

851
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: for school this week, and I'm excited about it, right

852
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 3: because I'm like, he will see the skill leveling netball

853
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: and it offers something different.

854
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 5: And frankly, I.

855
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 3: Actually think we've got something great to offer men and

856
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: boys because we don't have the same concussion issues that

857
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 3: the football codes have, right, So you know, it's a

858
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: safe sport from that point of view, you know, as

859
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: families juggle being busier, netball is a sport that happens

860
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: at the same time and the same place every week.

861
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 3: I think we're just we're just really a different offering,

862
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 3: not just for girls and women, but for men and boys.

863
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: And I think the place where our sport is really

864
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: thriving is in mixed competitions and social social me. Yeah,

865
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 3: that my local association, the Twilight League in spring. It's

866
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: it's great. You know, there's kids rocking up wearing two two's,

867
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: it's really relaxed. There's lots of you know, there's lots

868
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: of teams, and so I think, you know, our sport

869
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: can really cater for men and boys in that way too.

870
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 3: I just think that, yeah, that's great on the court,

871
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: love having men and boys playing. But I think it

872
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: also serves a much bigger picture, which is something that

873
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: really excites me.

874
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: Isn't any wonder that would follow you into battle, Liz?

875
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: I really don't think so. No, I mean how I mean,

876
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: I've always been in yeah, yeah, you actually have.

877
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: You Actually, it's actually crazy. What was harder, Liz winning

878
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,959
Speaker 1: three World championships or the Jungle.

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Speaker 3: Winning three World Championships four years, right, so every World

880
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: Cup takes four years of prep, whereas the Jungle was

881
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: just twenty one days.

882
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 5: And it was hard in there, right was actually it

883
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 5: might have been twenty eight days.

884
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: I lost out, you know, it was like, well it

885
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 3: was it took the time that it took to eat

886
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: four gazelle's eyeballs.

887
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 5: I don't know. The hardest thing was just killing time, right, It's.

888
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: There's not much killing the gazelle, so yeah, well no,

889
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 3: thankfully I don't have to go and do that. But

890
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: and then everything in the in the jungle is like

891
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: literally hard, like all the surfaces are hard.

892
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 5: I'm an old lady.

893
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: My hip started to hurt, everything started to hurt, so

894
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 3: that they were hard. But also what sport teaches you

895
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: is just to put your head down and your ass

896
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: up and just and you know that there's an endlment,

897
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: so you know, and I used to joke that the

898
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 3: thing that got me through labor was was doing five

899
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: day netball cats when normal Plumber was a coach. Right,

900
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: I knew that labor wouldn't take five days if I.

901
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 5: Couldn't get through it. And it was the same with

902
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 5: the jungle.

903
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: I knew the jungle wasn't going to go on for

904
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: four years, so I was like, well like minimums two weeks, maximum,

905
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 3: it's five weeks whatever. I'm in here with some really

906
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: interesting fun people. I get to do stuff that I

907
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: don't ever get to do. You know, my family got

908
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: to come. Over the fact that they that they came.

909
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: I was like, well, it's great. It was hepes so fun.

910
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 5: It was hard, but it was fun.

911
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 4: Only one final question, Liz, And firstly we just want

913
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 4: to say thank you so much for finding the time.

914
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Speaker 2: We love Netborle.

915
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: How can we the fans champion you and your mission

916
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: to have these household names? What are you hoping that

917
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 4: Australians can do and react to that mission? About as

918
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: you said, and it's so funny that parallels between this

919
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: podcast and your mission in saying we're not exclusively for women,

920
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 4: but we're very proudly for women. It's not exclusively everyone

921
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 4: is welcome, yes, but we're creating a space where we

922
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: may feel like they found their niche in sport and

923
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 4: we're proud of that. How can people get behind netball?

924
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 4: And it sounds like such an obvious question is in

925
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 4: go to games, but there are more tangible ways that

926
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 4: people can do things. And I'm sure are your KPIs

927
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 4: of what you're looking for? What can what's your call

928
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: out for listeners if they're thinking, oh, yeah, I could

929
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: get back into netball.

930
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think there's probably two parts to it.

931
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Speaker 3: One is that if you haven't played for a long time,

932
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: when you want to just go and find your local

933
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 3: association and getting things have changed right. There's social comps,

934
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: there's mixed comps, its heaps of fun, So go and

935
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 3: play most importantly, But the other thing is start to

936
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: follow on socials. Start to make sure you watch the games,

937
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 3: talk about the games to people who aren't familiar you know,

938
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: and call people out when you know when you can.

939
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes you hear people say, oh, but Netbull's boring or

940
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: women's sport is boring. You've got to have the courage

941
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: to call people out because the proof is actually on

942
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: your television screens every week. No matter what sport you watch,

943
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: when women are playing, it's a vastly different sport to

944
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 3: when men play, and that actually makes it more interesting.

945
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 5: I think.

946
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: So be prepared to stand up for your sport, be

947
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: prepared to go out and play, and go by merch

948
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 3: by ticks. You know, if you can, if we can

949
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: fill out Rod Labor Arena next week, certainly makes my

950
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: job and the CEO's job easy when it comes to

951
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: budget time at.

952
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 5: The end of the year.

953
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: So you know, women's sport at the end of the day.

954
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: It's the thing that we're lacking is the financial resources

955
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 3: to really tell our story as well.

956
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 5: So you know, if you can buy a piece of merch,

957
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 5: if you can buy a ticket, if you can buy

958
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 5: a membership.

959
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 4: To a club, that all helps and follow the account

960
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 4: so that when you on sell to those brands, it's

961
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 4: the amount of eyes that are going to be across

962
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 4: the brands. So that is something whether it like go

963
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 4: and just follow your local team and.

964
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: Follow your local team, follow the diamonds. You know, there's

965
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: and that's something that's free.

966
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, and you can do it right now.

967
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 4: So get your phones out, get your follow and if

968
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: you're not following Queen Liz, what are you doing?

969
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: What are you doing?

970
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 5: What are you doing?

971
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: I don't get on socials much these days. I'm not

972
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 3: much chopped, but anything.

973
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: Please please, you will get around it.

974
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: Actually, very very very quickly, we mentioned Rod Labor, what

975
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: color is a tennis ball, Liz.

976
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: How do you know she knows.

977
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 5: That answer some Monday mornings.

978
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: Of course you do with all your spare time.

979
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: Your spare time, Queen Liz, we will bow down to

980
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: you forever. Thank you so much for being with us

981
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: and we're so excited about twenty thirty two, among other things.

982
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 5: Thanks Team.

983
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: The Queen, the.

984
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: Queen Teava, Queen, she's just the best.

985
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: I just like the ten year old me, just lost

986
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 2: their mind. It's Liz Ellis. I know, I know.

987
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: I used to watch her sitting around the TV every

988
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: was it a Saturday afternoon and they used to get

989
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: the games you skip broadcast in Brisbane. I'm not sure,

990
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: but I would be watching it. I'd be like, oh,

991
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: there's Queen Liz. There's Queen Liz the golfer.

992
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 4: Reckon, she's ever been asked the color of a tennis ball?

993
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: Because that leads into our fun fact and it turns

994
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Speaker 4: out surprising no one. Queen Liz was right because, as

995
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Speaker 4: we've been recording, Ben Locke, Hello, thank you for your time.

996
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 4: Ben has just this in with a smiley facaying yellow balls. Now,

997
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 4: before this week, I wouldn't have opened the link, just

998
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: letting you know that would have gone straight through to

999
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 4: the keeper. But I say it's an embarrassing bodies I

1000
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Speaker 4: saw super David Attenborough is the cover PHO. I'm like, oh,

1001
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 4: let's have a listen and thank you Ben for the

1002
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 4: fun fact tennis balls used to be white.

1003
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Speaker 5: A great bounce is what makes a great tennis ball.

1004
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 5: Wilson were not number one for nothing.

1005
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Speaker 8: It wasn't until nineteen eighty six that Wimbledon made the

1006
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 8: official switch to yellow balls. Sir David Attenborough, who was

1007
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Speaker 8: a BBC studio controller at the time, was the man

1008
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 8: behind the change. In the nineteen seventies, tennis began being

1009
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 8: broadcast in color, and Attenborough realized that white balls were

1010
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 8: difficult to see on television. Nobody had noticed the issue

1011
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,959
Speaker 8: before because everyone was used to watching tennis in black

1012
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 8: and white. After an in depth study, the International Tennis

1013
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 8: Federation agreed that bright yellow balls were more visible and

1014
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 8: the change was made.

1015
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Speaker 1: David Attenborough so in one corner, see.

1016
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 7: The wild ball was too white to be seen on television,

1017
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 7: so we brought in the yellow and everyone got very

1018
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 7: confused about what the totals. That is.

1019
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: The greatest thing you may have ever done on this podcast.

1020
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: And can I just say that I was immediately struck

1021
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: because you sounded uncannily like Sir David Attenborough. But also,

1022
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: and this is going to be a deep cut, like

1023
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: Nigel thornbe from The Wild thorn Breeze.

1024
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it.

1025
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 2: Was a mash. I live in Thornbury.

1026
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 4: So there's randomly stickers of Nigel thorn bree everywhere because

1027
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 4: someone thought that it would be. And if you don't

1028
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 4: know the reference, what were you doing not watching ABC

1029
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 4: Kids during that?

1030
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 5: What were you doing?

1031
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: Eliza Thornbreees she had a monkey named darwhen it's a

1032
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 1: whole remember, and he just hello, I'm Nigel's and today

1033
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: we're studying the wild boar redfree redfree up in here.

1034
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 4: I'm so glad Queen Liz isn't on the line for this,

1035
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: but I do hope she's listening.

1036
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: Oh there you go, There you go. So David Attenborough, Well,

1037
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 2: we can't.

1038
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: Look, we can take on a lot of people on

1039
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: this podcast, I think you and I we can't really

1040
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: take on to David Attenborough, like, like you know, if

1041
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: he says we'd have.

1042
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: Him on the pod, we'd have him on the pod.

1043
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: We have him on the pod. He's probably listening right now.

1044
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: So David, I know you're a bit busy, you know,

1045
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: solving the world. But if invitation open invitation.

1046
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: It might work. For sir, it really did it.

1047
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 4: I love you, Love this Love Queen Lee's follow netballers

1048
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 4: and until next week be at