1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Well a very good morning and welcome to the show. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: It is Friday morning. It's time for the week that was. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: And joining us in the studio this morning, Jared mainly 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: from the c LP. 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners. 6 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: We've got Georgie Dickerson her last day at nine News Darman. 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: Good morning Georgie, sad and half happy. Oh good Friday 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 3: for everyone. 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Heading off to Sky News Melbourne. 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 4: A very little bit of a colder climate, so I 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 4: think it's cold this morning. 12 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: But as I get down to Melbourne think I'm going 13 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: to get a root shop. 14 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: I think you are. It's going to be freezing for you. 15 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: But it's probably pretty cold out. 16 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 5: In the room this morning. 17 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: Is it keazy? 18 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 5: Ap Pere morning? We're shivering in our little dummies out there. 19 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 5: Till about eighteen. 20 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: You were a bit cold. 21 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: Do you have to put a little jacket on that? 22 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: Well you can. I didn't have it on last night, 23 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: but I think tonight I might. 24 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: Bones cute Joel about it for the Labour party this morning. 25 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Good morning to your John. 26 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 6: Good morning Katy. I've actually got my jacket on this show. 27 00:00:59,200 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 5: You've got a holes. 28 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: You're dressed up for. 29 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 7: Us today it's not a suit. Let's not let's not 30 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 7: put too much sugar on top of this. But I 31 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 7: have got a jacket on and I am going to 32 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 7: Barunga and I heard the Yeah, it's going to be 33 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 7: like six degrees overnight. So if you're going down there, 34 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 7: take a DRIs of bone and a swag and an 35 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 7: extra beanie. 36 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: You'll need all of the above. It will definitely be cool. 37 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: I reckon, Beanie. 38 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 8: You can Borroy if you want, John, please, because I 39 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 8: need something to put on the phone. 40 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: Oh good stuff. 41 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. There is a lot to 42 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: cover off, as I say, every single week, and unfortunately 43 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: not a good week when it comes to crime. We 44 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: know that there was quite a lot actually to cover off. 45 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: Monday morning, we did open the show with the news 46 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: that a man had been charged with murder after the 47 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: death of a woman in Coconut Grove. Police say that 48 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: at about twelve thirty on Saturday, they received reports of 49 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: an unresponsive woman at a residence in Coconut Grove. Now 50 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: that forty three year old man presented himself to police 51 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: at the residence and was arrested. He appeared in court, 52 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: as I understand it, on Tuesday Meanwhile, we know that 53 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: across the northern suburbs and across Palmerston quite a bit 54 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: of property crime to grapple with. We caught up with 55 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: Strikeforce Trident a little bit earlier in the week. They 56 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: told us I believe seventy five arrests across two weeks. 57 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: So the police working hard to try to keep things 58 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: under control. But it does seem as though these issues 59 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: of crime is something that we're again having to deal with. Georgie, 60 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: I understand you ran a story on last night or 61 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: nine News on this as well, didn't you. 62 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just terrible, how bad. 63 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: I guess the situation is escalating obviously that incident on 64 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: Saturday or Sunday. Sorry, it's all just escalating. And you 65 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: know we've got these brawls. I think there was a 66 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 4: brawl out in the front of the Anti News just 67 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: the other day, and so you know, these poor police 68 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: are doing everything they can, but you know what's being 69 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: done to fix it. And we even spoke to some 70 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 4: people after the property Council's survey went out that's talking 71 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 4: about crime, and even just you know, talking to some 72 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: people on the streets, they're like, it's so sad. All 73 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 4: of these shops are closing their doors because of the 74 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: crime that we're seeing. And she said, you know, my 75 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 4: issue is I have too much stock because I just 76 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 4: hope that it's going to get better and it just 77 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: isn't well. 78 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: And I actually then noted as well, I was sent 79 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: some photos last night in fact of a business in 80 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: Culum Bay that was that had put up basically signs 81 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: saying that they're going to be closed in Culumbay. So 82 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: basically something closed temporarily closed due to recurrent break ins. 83 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: Due to the consistent break ins and threatening behavior, we've 84 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: made the difficult decision to temporarily close our doors. So 85 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: that's Bung and Saul, I believe it's called they're at 86 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: Culum Bay. 87 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: And there was another one, Fin and Tonic, who only 88 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: opened I think about a month ago, and already they've 89 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: had their windows, their whole window smashed and grog stolens. 90 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: You've got a small business trying to against me. 91 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: I know. 92 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: I've seen multiple post from him on Facebook, you know. 93 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: Getting the precinct ready, getting it all, making sure it 94 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 4: looks beautiful for the dry season, and then to keep 95 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: them as it's breaking from the kids and the kids 96 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: look very much. 97 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 9: It's just a shame that this is just a recurring story. 98 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 9: You know, we talk about John Johns, we talk about 99 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 9: the beauty bar and Catherine shutting down, we talk about 100 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 9: the ride and the ant news the other day that 101 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 9: just seems to be no into it and the Labor 102 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 9: government have done nothing about it. And we know that 103 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 9: an election coming up in three months time and it 104 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 9: seems to be maybe five minutes to midnight. They're going 105 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 9: to try and make it it's not an issue and 106 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 9: don't worry about it, or we're going to fix his 107 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 9: little things. But don't forget the Labor government had eight years. 108 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 9: They've been in power, this particular government of eight years, 109 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 9: and it's just been getting worse and worse. 110 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: And what are the Labor government have done. 111 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 9: They've taken powers away from police, They've raised a responsibility, 112 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 9: they've taken the consequences away and open manatary sentencing, and 113 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 9: these little steps have all added up now and now 114 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 9: we're actually seeing the result of this Labor changing their 115 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 9: policies about making it easy to do crime and less 116 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 9: consequences for these kids. 117 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: And it's time to them make a change. 118 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: So you're the Minister for Small business. So have you 119 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: been down there to Cullumba and have a chat. 120 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 7: Have been visiting a number of business across the territory 121 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 7: over the last little while, and you're right, it's out 122 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 7: of it. 123 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 6: It's out of control and we need to actually move on. 124 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 7: And that's why Evilaul has been really good since she's 125 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 7: come in and it's been common sense and there's been investment. 126 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 7: We are trying to recruit more that's really difficult, right, 127 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 7: we know that it's really difficult to recruit more police 128 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 7: and they're doing a really really good job. I would 129 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 7: I would just ask, you know, the people who are 130 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 7: committing these please think about the impact you're having on 131 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 7: other people. 132 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: Because and this is no consequence. 133 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 6: Well there are consequences. 134 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 7: We know there's consequence, but you've got to think about 135 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 7: the broader community and just stop doing it, like stop 136 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 7: doing and stop impacting our community. 137 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: I mean, these kids aren't listening to the radio station. 138 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 4: I mean, as much as we love listening to you k, 139 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 4: I don't think these needs are the ones listening to it. 140 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: They don't think that there's consequences because when they see 141 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: you know, their family members or other people around their 142 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: age committing these acts and going into businesses causing damage. 143 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: It's just a game. 144 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 5: The damage is caused because they want to gain access. 145 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's an obvious to get booze or 146 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 5: alcohol or same thing, cigarettes, whatever. But the tragic death 147 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 5: of the lady and coconut grow I mean to me, 148 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 5: it shows I mean, the perpetrator had a DEVO order 149 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 5: against him to stay away, so clearly there was history 150 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 5: in regards to his behavior, and sadly, what happens in 151 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 5: this situation is it just escalates, and sadly, for that woman, 152 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 5: escalated and she's lost her life and he'll spend the 153 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 5: rest of his days in jail. So you know, people say, well, 154 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 5: what's the point of having these orders against you, because 155 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 5: clearly you can walk right through them. And he's done 156 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 5: the damage that he's done. 157 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: You know, it's terrible. 158 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 5: She's probably a grandma, she've got children, all that sort 159 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 5: of stuff. But the good Tutor's violence that we see 160 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 5: not only just in our darktown but other towns and 161 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 5: places in the territory is because of what we've said 162 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 5: is they know that there will be no consequences. They 163 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 5: just want their they just want their sugar hit. So 164 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 5: they just smash and grab door rush and then it 165 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 5: is out of control and there are no consequences. There 166 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 5: are some consequences, I get you that job. There are 167 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 5: some consequences, but they're enough. There's not enough, and they're 168 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 5: not strong enough. 169 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Well. The other part of this discussion, of course, is, 170 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: as had been touched on, my understanding is that Matt 171 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: Cunningham from Sky News is reporting on quite a big 172 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: brawl that happened outside of the NT News yesterday. Now 173 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: I hope Matt doesn't mind me saying, but from my 174 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: discussions with him, my understanding is that there had been 175 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: a large group of people over recent days that had 176 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: been sitting sort of drinking around that area, and then 177 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: by yesterday that behavior, by three o'clock in the afternoon, 178 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: had turned into a big brawl. It had turned into 179 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: a dangerous behavior, which therein lies the question, you know, 180 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: should we be just allowing this, you know, this sort 181 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: of camping around or sitting around in the city. And 182 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: I know that from all accounts, we keep being told 183 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: that it is not legal to sit around and drink, 184 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: and the police really can't. You know, when criminal behavior 185 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: then unfolds or where there is laws broken, is when 186 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: the police can obviously go and make those arrests. But 187 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: if people are sitting around and they're drinking there, and 188 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: they're languishing in that area for quite some time, it's 189 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: inevitably going to wind up a situation where too much 190 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: alcohol is consumed and potentially something bad's going to happen. 191 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: Let me finish. 192 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 9: This is a classic example of a where in two 193 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 9: thousand and nine, and I'm talking about the too colon 194 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 9: the law, where the Labor government changed the law to 195 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 9: make it so it wasn't offense to drink within two 196 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 9: caves of a licensed premises. 197 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: And we know that. 198 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 9: Because their own three year liquor review says it's not 199 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 9: an offense. So there's the evidence there because I know 200 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 9: there's been discussion about oh it is legal, it's not legal, 201 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 9: but the government's own reviews that it wasn't. So now 202 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 9: what the police can't do is be proactive and go 203 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 9: to those groups of people and go, hey, look, you're 204 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 9: all sitting here, there's a dv A. Lets ge everyone's 205 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 9: name and workout are you breaching bail? Are you breaching 206 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 9: pro are you breaching a DVO? Have you got a 207 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 9: history of alcohol abuse? After drinking, so they can't currently 208 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 9: do that. They can't go there and say what's your 209 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 9: name list? I want to do a check to make 210 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 9: sure there's a breach of the finished but it hasn't 211 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 9: actually fixed the problem. And the problem is that the 212 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 9: police can't be proactive. We know the police do a 213 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 9: wonderful job, but the hands are tied because of one 214 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 9: the inaction of the consequences. But let's focus on that 215 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 9: to klaw which is changed while government in twenty ninety. 216 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 9: We've got to make sure that we know this is 217 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 9: a direct result of the labor government watering down the laws, 218 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 9: and now the police can't be proactive and stop those 219 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 9: groups of drinking. And let's talk about domestic violence, because 220 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 9: someone's you know it, gets gets a sold or even 221 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 9: murdered in a situation just recently. So the police can't 222 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 9: be proactive and say, okay, you know your name is 223 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 9: jured Maylee. Look on their records and hey there's a DBO. 224 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 9: You can't be with Georgia because when you because you drink, 225 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 9: you can't it could be domestic violence. 226 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 3: They can't do that, and I think there was wasn't there. 227 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: You can only then they can only intervene when they 228 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: see you know, people start to fight and things like that. 229 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: You know, that's when it's too. 230 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: Late committed pice once the committed in defense. Police got 231 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: all the power in the world. 232 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: They can do one it's correct, Like is it a 233 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: situation where the where the where the police can't actually 234 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: go and you know, well, I think that. 235 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 7: Police can be proactive, and they are proactive. I also 236 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 7: see Laraki Nation being proactive. 237 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: In their All they really do is tip out the alcohol. 238 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 7: And that's law that we've changed. We've actually just changed 239 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 7: that law. I mean there is the new wanding laws. 240 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 7: There's a laws of tipouts on buses now with transit office. 241 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 4: It doesn't stop the behavior because then people just go 242 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: and get more of. 243 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 7: It, So it doesn't stop the behavior of someone's intoxicated. No, 244 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 7: but it's also giving additional powers to transit officer to 245 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 7: tip the alcohol which will reduce the downstream harm of 246 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 7: people getting intoxicated even. 247 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 6: That's drinking. 248 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: And had discussions I've had discussions over months as well 249 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: over the last few months where and I've said this 250 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: on here on numerous occasions where I have arsenal Northern 251 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: Territory police when it comes to some of the domestic 252 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: violence incidents that we are seeing. How often are we 253 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: then seeing domestic violence on our streets in public places? 254 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: And it is something that we are seeing often. So 255 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: to me, you know, I understand that this. You know 256 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: that domestic violence can happen behind closed doors, that can 257 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: happen anywhere. I understand that assaults can happen anywhere. I 258 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: understand that, you know, laws can be broken anywhere. But 259 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: when people are drinking in public places and there and 260 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: you know they're you're seeing them drinking in a public 261 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: place over a period of days, you know, and then 262 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: it winds up in a massive brawl that happens. You know, 263 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: for this example, outside of the Northern Territory news, you 264 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: just got to ask yourself. I think somewhere things are 265 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: breaking down, right because we are, we're not intervening fast 266 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: enough broken. 267 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 5: But there is another question is clearly these people are 268 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 5: buying alcohol from a bottle shop, so they've obviously got 269 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 5: a driver's license, they're obviously not on the BDR, or 270 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: whether they're getting secondary supply from somewhere because I know 271 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 5: during oh what was it. 272 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 6: During COVID, there was a real issue around. 273 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 5: And there was there was a car that was loading 274 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 5: up from Bachelor driving through the pubs, picking up booze 275 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 5: along the way, and they're coming to town and I think, yeah, 276 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 5: that's his name, Tony from the noon Ma pub. I 277 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 5: might have spoken to you about it and others. 278 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 10: So there's I think to remember issue of soundry supply, 279 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 10: because if a lot of people are being arrested for 280 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 10: this disorderly conduct or violence in the streets, they automatically 281 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 10: best I understand, go on to the band drinker's register 282 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 10: if they're charged. 283 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 5: So it's not breaking, it's broken. Yeah, And we even 284 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 5: had a small incident out at the Kulinger shops yesterday 285 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 5: wasn't bad, but there's a group of people who'd come 286 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 5: from out of town somewhere, and there was one bloke 287 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 5: came up to me with a piece of paper, unwounded 288 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 5: and said, my name's Son, you know. Can you give 289 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 5: me some small change? And I said no. I said, 290 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 5: but if you're hungry, I'll buy your sandwich. And he 291 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 5: got started to get a little bit antsy, like I 292 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 5: don't want my words, I don't want the bloody sandwich, 293 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 5: I want the money. And then a couple of blokes 294 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 5: coming in just came over and said, hey, mate, just 295 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 5: back off. Yeah yeah, so. 296 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, you try. 297 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm quite happy to do that if someone's hungby, 298 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 5: you know, you know, I know it's humbuggying all that 299 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 5: sort of stuff. I get that, butohol, yeah, I get 300 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 5: all that too. But my point is these people are 301 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 5: clearly not from around I just know. I didn't get 302 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 5: to ask where they're from, but they're from out of town. 303 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 5: But it's not just it's not just the city areas. 304 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: It's now starting to sneak out into this way. 305 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: We get regular, regular, regular comments and people getting in 306 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: contact with us, even Peter this morning. Katio was driving 307 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: along the Stuart Highway yesterday near Yarrawonga. There was a 308 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: speed camera set up at the location, just fifty meters 309 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: away from a group of people consuming alcohol. When's the 310 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: government going to get their priorities right. I've got nothing 311 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: against finding hard working taxpayers for speeding, but isn't it 312 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: important as well to make sure that you're removing people 313 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: who are drinking publicly and are highly intoxicated right across 314 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: the road from a highway. 315 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 5: I know exactly where that cop car sits. Yep, and 316 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 5: the people do sit in go in the long grass. 317 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 5: It's just pay And they crossed that road and someone 318 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 5: already has been cleaned up on that road. 319 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Well, and this was the other part of the discussion. 320 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: People walk, yeah, like this is the other part of 321 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: the discussion. Our road toll is so high, the number 322 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: of people being the number of pedestrians being struck right now, 323 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: like there is so so many on going on flowing, 324 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: I should say issues as a result of the alcohol 325 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: that's been consumed. 326 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 9: About alcoholism and being addicted to alcohol, you know, and 327 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 9: that is definitely a problem. And yet this lab of government, 328 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 9: in their wisdom of shut down to the voluntary alcohol 329 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 9: rebooting one in our springs and one and dow and 330 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 9: so there's nowhere to go if you want to go 331 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 9: to a cleaning up shield or a serving up shehelter. 332 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 9: The Stable government are going to shut them both down 333 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 9: so as well as watering down the laws which impact 334 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 9: our lifestyle, because our lost style should be that you 335 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 9: can walk around and enjoy the dull and whether like 336 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 9: it's beautiful today, or walk to work. 337 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: Whatever you might be. 338 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 9: But people aren't doing that because they're worried about getting 339 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 9: abused at eight o'clock in the morning buying intoxicated people 340 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 9: sitting around drinking and the spot keysy, I go past 341 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 9: it on know, is that what you're talking about. You 342 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 9: often see lots of people they're drinking and you see 343 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 9: green cans all over the joint, and what is the priority, 344 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 9: like begunment? 345 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: Are they doing that? It doesn't look like they are. 346 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 9: But what they are doing, you're shutting down voluntary alcohol 347 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 9: treatment programs because they can't handle the problem. 348 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 5: I mean, we've talked about this. I mean I don't 349 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 5: begrudge and I don't think anyone begrudges people coming into 350 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 5: the big city and the bright lights. And I know 351 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 5: lots of people say, oh, they come in for medical 352 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 5: treatment and their family comes to and then they stay 353 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 5: with well, you know, lots of people come in for 354 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 5: medical treatment, but they don't hang around in the in 355 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: the suburbs causing trouble. So I think a lot of 356 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 5: a lot of it also is people come in and 357 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 5: away from their communities or their townships because they're bored, 358 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 5: job like that. 359 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: But there's also situations where they're actually coming into town 360 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: because there's violence in their communities as well. And I've 361 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: spoken to women before in Yeah, that's right, Like in 362 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: parap I've spoken, you know, my family has a property there. 363 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: I've spoken to a lady before with a small baby 364 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: who has said that she is in town because there's 365 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: violence in her community. You know, was sleeping sort of 366 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: under the awning of an area of a property that 367 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: we've got. And you know, my husband and I will 368 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: often say, and he will often say to people, look, 369 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: I've got no worries with his sleeping there, but please 370 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: just keep the area tidy when you leave. And you know, 371 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: when someone's genuinely fleeing a violent situation or a dangerous situation, 372 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: I've got no issue with that. But what I've got 373 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: an issue with is people drinking publicly in public places, 374 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, and then getting up to really bad behavior 375 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: and the and all of the on flow issues that 376 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: we're seeing, and we. 377 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: Need people sit out at the front of bottle shops, 378 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 4: you know, and say why don't the bottle shop workers 379 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: not serve them? But you know, bottle shop workers are 380 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 4: too scared to say no, they're not. 381 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: On the BDR or if there's not a reason why 382 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: they can't serve them, then, you know, But then. 383 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: Even if they're intoxicated. 384 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: You know, these bottle shop workers are young, you know, 385 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 4: first job kids that are just out of school or 386 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 4: you know in year twelve. Of course they're just going 387 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: to give them the alcohol even if they are intoxicated, 388 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: because you're too scared that they're going to retaliate and 389 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: they're not just going to go away if they're drunk 390 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 4: and intoxicated and still want that alcohol. And so I 391 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 4: feel like that's another thing that there needs to be 392 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 4: more police around these bottle shops so that if the 393 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: situation does happen, they can step in and you know, 394 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 4: help these kids. 395 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 9: Well, look we're going to take people doing the right thing, 396 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 9: but they get to go and buy it and bring 397 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 9: it out there. 398 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: So you know you've got a shop. 399 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 9: People are doing it tough, but they are working, really 400 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 9: are and they do a great job. 401 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: Well, we are going to take a quick run. Yeah, 402 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: we are going to take quick break. You're listening to 403 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: Mix one O four nine's three sixty. There is a 404 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: lot to cover off on this morning. You are listening 405 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: to Mix one O four nine's three sixty. As I said, 406 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: there is a lot to discuss this morning. If you've 407 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: just joined us in the Studio, Jared Maylee, Georgie Dickerson, Kesiapuric, 408 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: and Joel Bowden. Now earlier this week or towards the 409 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: end of last week. In fact, late Friday afternoon, the 410 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: Anti Discrimination Commissioner issued a press release saying that it 411 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: has been reported that the Anti Anti Anti Discrimination Commissioner 412 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: is urgently investigating or conducting a review of systemic racism 413 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: within the Northern Territory Police Force. Now, he said this 414 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: is misleading and incorrect. The Anti Discrimination Commissioner has been 415 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: approached by the Attorney General to undertake a racism review. However, 416 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: for the past few months he's been in negotiations with 417 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: the Attorney General's Department, the Attorney General and the Minister 418 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: for Police concerning the necessary resources to conduct such a review. 419 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: To date, the funding put forward to the ADC does 420 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: not stretch to enable the setup of that designated project 421 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: team and carriage of such a review in its full cycle. 422 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: Now I asked the Chief Minister Evil Awler about this 423 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: earlier this week. She said one hundred and seventy million dollars. 424 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: One hundred seventy thousand dollars goodness million. I was going 425 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: to say one hundred and seventy thousand dollars has been 426 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: set aside for this review. Now. In the statement by 427 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: the Anti Discrimination Commissioner, he says that in light of 428 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: the fact that considering the government's twenty twenty four budget 429 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: invests five hundred and seventy million dollars into police with 430 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: four hundred and forty five million dollars over five years 431 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: for an additional two hundred officers, it's timely that the 432 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police Force consider investing in a racism review 433 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: within the ADC. Now, within the Anti Discrimination Commission. 434 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 5: Katie, how many agencies and people have to review police 435 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 5: Like I'm getting a bit fed up with this. You know, 436 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 5: ICs meant to be antidiscriminator and sorry, Independent Commission Against 437 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 5: Coruption is meant to be investigating systemic racism in the 438 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 5: anti police force, which I don't believe there is, and 439 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 5: now we've got this Anti Discrimination Commission wants to investigate it. 440 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 5: How many people? How many body reviews? To actually leave 441 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 5: the police are probably doing something internally as. 442 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 6: Well, Commission Murphy. 443 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 5: Commission Murphy is doing something. 444 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 3: So money could be spent better getting more cops here. 445 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 5: Well, the thing is just just because they've got another 446 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 5: five hundred million to get more police and more resources 447 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 5: and cars and whatever. It doesn't mean I'll just cut 448 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 5: off another one hundred thousand he had to give to 449 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 5: the Antidiscrimination Commission exactly. 450 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 6: General has put that one hundred and seven cut. 451 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 5: Your cloth to suit the suit. If you've got one 452 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 5: hundred and seventy thousand, well maybe instead of four projects officers, 453 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 5: you get two and you don't do a massive review 454 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 5: that takes all around the countryside, if not the world. 455 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 5: You just focus on some key elements of a review 456 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 5: and get on with it. 457 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: Look, the thing I guess, and the question that I've 458 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: got is what is the end game? You know, what 459 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: are we what is there's going to achieve in terms 460 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: of because we have got the cor inquest obviously that 461 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: we're waiting for the outcome of that, So what is 462 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: the end game now? I would think that the end 463 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: game is to make sure that the Northern Territory Police 464 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: Force is doing everything that they can to ensure that 465 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: there is not racism within the Northern Territory Police And 466 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: I know that there has been evidence obviously put forward 467 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: throughout that coronial inquest. Obviously comments made by Michael Murphy 468 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: as well in terms of you know what had happened 469 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: about a week or so ago. We've also now got 470 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: a situation where you've got a pont the Aboriginal organizations 471 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory demanding an apology from the government 472 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: and the top police for denying systemic racism in the 473 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police Force. 474 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 5: Now what are they going to apologize for? I mean, 475 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: what does that coalition want from Commissioner Murphy, Chief Minister, 476 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 5: Police minister. Well, I'm sorry on behalf of the officers. 477 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 5: So they want to they want them to apologize on 478 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 5: behalf of someone else's behavior. 479 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: Well, they said, I mean, they've said the situations unaccepted 480 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: Aboriginal people to turn it to the police for safety 481 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: protection and understanding it points. 482 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 5: Of course it's unacceptable. But you know, when is enough enough? 483 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 5: So let's assume that they all apologize. Is that going 484 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 5: to be enough for them? Or they're going to come 485 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 5: back and say, oh, well, we don't think your apologies 486 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 5: sincee it. 487 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: You know, it needs to be I feel like if 488 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: there's an apology, it needs to be steps forward as 489 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 4: to what we're going to do. 490 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 5: Now it's not for the sake of saying, oh, I'm 491 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 5: sorry it happened. Well, it happened, you know, and all 492 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 5: these reviews that are underway. 493 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: Too many reviews, and people are sick of it. 494 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 5: Basically, we are sick of it. 495 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 7: Now. 496 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 6: We need recruitment and then more police, and. 497 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: We also want more Indigenous people in our police would assume, 498 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: you know. And that's absolutely something that I think is fundamental. 499 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 4: And also the coronal inquest is going to come back 500 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 4: with recommendations and obviously these awards are going to be 501 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: part of that final report from the coroner, so no 502 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 4: doubt that is also in some way a little bit 503 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 4: of it. I mean, it's quite an extensive review really, 504 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 4: it's been going on for years now, but she will 505 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 4: no doubt have parts in there that say, this is 506 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: what I would recommend the police force do from now, 507 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 4: given this evidence that I have seen in this in quest. 508 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 9: Because remember these allegations flying around and harming the police. Know, 509 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 9: these police officers do a great job. My dad was 510 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 9: a police officer for a long time, so I've got 511 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 9: a first hand are hard work and over the more 512 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 9: than they do above it and they required so you know, 513 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 9: this is really an example Labor government just doing nothing, 514 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 9: no real leadership, just to nip it in the butt. 515 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 9: Review after review do this do that. We just need 516 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 9: to get on with governing in the Northern Territory. The 517 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 9: police do a great job and this Labor government this 518 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 9: is another example of inaction from them. 519 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: Rumors flying around. 520 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 9: Things aren't happening because the Labor government to show no 521 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 9: leadership and dealing with this problem. 522 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 11: And that's shown very strong leaders has been six months 523 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 11: the money that's going six months ago. 524 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: What do you want them to do during We want. 525 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 9: Some leadership here to stop these rumors flying around in 526 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 9: it in the butt because the police are getting effected 527 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 9: here the hard line front. 528 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: Feel like the rumors, what rumors are you talking about? 529 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 4: I feel like we've seen they're not really rumors. That's 530 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 4: been said in the inquest. You know this is fact. 531 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 4: These are the awards. 532 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 9: So but you know that was in twenty and sixteen. 533 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 9: You know, I agree what Kisa said. I don't think 534 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 9: the systemic racism in the police. I think you know 535 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 9: they're doing their best is stamp it out and these 536 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 9: rewards were twenty and sixteen. 537 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: For memory, I could be. 538 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 9: Corrected on that, but moving forward, the police need the support. 539 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 6: We know that. 540 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 9: There's been three surveys from the Police Association say that 541 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 9: the government don't support them over the last year or 542 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 9: so and the government just don't support them to move. 543 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: The riement though. Really, I think of Michael Murphy has 544 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: been as well since taking on the role as the 545 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: Police Commissioner is to rebuild the morale within the Northern 546 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: Territory Police Force. 547 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 7: Now she's been doing an admirable job at doing I 548 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 7: think Commissioner Murphy has been doing a very good job 549 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 7: and there has been some strong leadership from Eva Laula 550 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 7: and it's been common sense. And then what we've sa 551 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 7: and everyone knows the numbers now there's going to be 552 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 7: two hundred extra police. 553 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 3: Right when they to get here. That's the problem. 554 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 4: We numbers are great to talk about, but you know, 555 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 4: people need them here now, not in five to ten 556 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 4: years time. I know it takes a long time to 557 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: get the cops here. But funding is all well and 558 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: good until that. 559 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: Actually, twenty three million dollars for police this year. 560 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 6: So the funding is open the next five one. We 561 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 6: all know that. 562 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 7: And recruitment takes a little bit of time, yes, and 563 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 7: we are trying to recruit as quickly as possible. There's 564 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 7: also a national recruitment drive for police. There's a skill 565 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 7: shortage and it's also in police, so we're competing against 566 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 7: every other jurisdiction. I think it's actually in New South 567 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 7: Wales at the moment, who are advertising in the South 568 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 7: Australian newspapers saying south of astrain and police come to 569 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 7: New South Wales. 570 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: We absolutely need the police now. I mean earlier in 571 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: the week I caught up with Alexi. His goddaughter was 572 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: assaulted outside of Royal Darwin Hospital earlier this week about 573 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: ten pm by an unknown person. He tells me they've 574 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: still not heard back, you know, they've still not had 575 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: a police officer out there to go and speak to 576 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: that seventeen year old girl who was allegedly assaulted. You know, 577 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: to me, that really encapsulates the whole issue that we've 578 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: got in the Northern territory right now. When something really serious, 579 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: when something frightening like that happens, you know what you 580 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: what you expect is it when you call the police. 581 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: And it's not a criticism of the police, it's a 582 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: criticism that we don't have enough of them that you know, 583 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: you expect that if something horrible like that happened, that 584 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: you're able to get somebody out there to speak to you, 585 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: particularly a young person like that. 586 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 5: It shows to me that it's not that the police 587 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 5: are ignoring that no might of that young person. It's 588 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 5: just that there are more serious things that demand their attention. 589 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 9: We are some written queris about and when the answers 590 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 9: come back, there's two thirds of the police officers, you know, 591 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 9: when you've got someone in the back of the van, 592 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 9: is just dealing with the drunk person, running them around, 593 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 9: picking someone off and take. 594 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: Them back to the watchhouse, waiting back. 595 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 9: Three times you see a police officer in someone in 596 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 9: a paddy way, it's not because they have a resident 597 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 9: of committing a crime. Is because they've picked them up 598 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 9: on the streets because they're intoxicated and they're going to 599 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 9: take them to the sobering up, shot up to the hospital, 600 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 9: or put them in protective custody. So, like you said, George, 601 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 9: an hour and a half of their time is running 602 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 9: around because it goes back to that drinking in a 603 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 9: public place. Were lament change the laws, so they can't 604 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 9: do anything about other than tip it out, which doesn't work. 605 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 9: So these people become intoxicated, and then they become a 606 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 9: police problem because they're either intoxicated, color graphs themselves or 607 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 9: committing crime. 608 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: So you stam it right back to the very basic. 609 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 9: It goes back to the labor government changing the laws 610 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 9: to make it easier to drink in a public place. 611 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: The police have to pick up the scraps. 612 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 7: Around correct, and we cho to make it easier to drink, 613 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 7: and alcohol is. 614 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 6: A massive issue in our ninety in our community. 615 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 7: The domestic violence scourge on our community is just a 616 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 7: disgrace and we should all be ashamed of it. And 617 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 7: the police do the best that they possibly can. They 618 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 7: are stretched, and I think there's Georgie to your point 619 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 7: about recruiting. I think there's sixty or seventy graduating in 620 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 7: the next month or so. 621 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 4: The graduous we need people that experienced police we can't have. 622 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 4: And obviously it's good to have these graduates as gds 623 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: out on the beat, but when you've got place like 624 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: Alice Springs, Darwin and even more remote communities that need 625 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 4: that experienced policing, you know, these young coppers might go 626 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 4: out there. Some of them we met, they looked like 627 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 4: they were still in high school, they're so young, and 628 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 4: so they don't have that stuff experience. 629 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 7: Like this year, we do have to start with graduates 630 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 7: so that they can free up constables and they can 631 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 7: free up the hierarchy and give us an opportunity. But 632 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 7: we are recruiting as vigorously as we can, and I 633 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 7: think again there's going to be sixty or seventy graduates 634 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 7: in the next month or so. 635 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: We're going to take a very quick break coming your way. 636 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: Next we are going to be speaking a bit more 637 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: about the economy. If you've just joined us this morning, 638 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: We've got Joel Boden, Keseyer Puric, Georgie Dickerson, and also 639 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: Jared Mayley in the studio with us. Now, look, there 640 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: is a lot to cover off. I'm keen to talk 641 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: more about the economy, with the fact that tam Boren 642 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: has been given the green light, as well as the 643 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 1: fact that Master Builders had raised some concerns earlier this 644 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: week in the case of those new builds. But we've 645 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: been receiving a few messages over the last twenty four 646 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: hours about Territory Day. We've been contacted by some territorians 647 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: who are quite worried after hearing that Territory Day celebrations 648 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: could be moved from Mindle to the waterfront. Now, yesterday 649 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: we received a text message that said Territory Day is 650 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: canceled at Mindle Beach. Just to elaborate on the cancelation, 651 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: approximately one hundred and twenty businesses have been left in 652 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: limbo without being able to trade at the traditional fireworks 653 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: day only three weeks out. This person says that they 654 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: were notified about it on Monday and that they have 655 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: been told that it's moving to the waterfront. Joel, I 656 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: don't know whether this is accurate or what the go 657 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: is here. 658 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 7: Neither do I, Okay, but I'll tell you what. There 659 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 7: will be bangers going off on the first of July. 660 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 7: There will be I think crackers going off everywhere around 661 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 7: the territory, and the government again will fund an event. 662 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 6: I'm not across the details of the event, and I'm not. 663 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: It is usually something that happens at Mindle Beach. 664 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 5: Why does everything have to go to the bloody water front? 665 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: Well, no, we're being told that it's had to move, 666 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: like from some of the people that have been in 667 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: contact with us, the vendors that have been in contact 668 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: with us, that there has been some kind of of 669 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: pulling off the event from Mindle Beach due to something 670 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: to do with the Aboriginal Protection Authority. I don't know 671 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: exactly what the situation is bloody twenty years. Yeah, so look, 672 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: we're trying to get to the bottom Faly pop out 673 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: of and this is the thing we're trying to get 674 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: to the bottom of. And that's you know, that is 675 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,239 Speaker 1: a look fundamentally, there's going to be concerns if it 676 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: is being moved by some of those markets still vendors. 677 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: Exactly. 678 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm happy to rent out my mother's hunderda Capetti. 679 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: There's plenty of let people come out there. 680 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 5: Plenty room for parking. I'll get all my sisters to 681 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 5: put a stall on. Oh yeah, what about the. 682 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: Poor animals out there? They might be scared. 683 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 5: I would lock them all up. 684 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 7: But look with the animals on cracking night, Yeah, maybe 685 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 7: we should stick to the city. 686 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, now look on it exactly what the goal is. 687 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: But that is that's something that we have been contacted 688 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: about by listeners. So obviously you know there are quite 689 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: a few people that are worried about this. If they 690 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: have got. 691 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 5: Well, it'll be the responsibility of the minister who's in 692 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 5: charge of work Safe and We're Safe, I think is 693 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 5: in the Attorney General's department, So Chancy Paike should have answers. 694 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: Well, look, we'll try and find out. I don't know, Joel. 695 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: I don't know whether you know anything about it. 696 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 7: I'm not across the detail as in when and where 697 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 7: it's going to happen. 698 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 6: But what I can say is that it's going to 699 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 6: go off. 700 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: There will be. 701 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 7: Banglers and crackers going off on the first of July. 702 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 6: We know that's a territory to reach, Maybe not so much. 703 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 4: So for those businesses they're down there, mintal businesses on 704 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: all of the markets, so many people come down, especially 705 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 4: on crack and night. 706 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 3: How do we not know where it's going to be held. 707 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 9: We're talking uncertainty again, Will they become uncertainly the economy, 708 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 9: uncertain crime, you know, uncertainty in relation to almost anything 709 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 9: you talk about in Northern Territory, and now we're talking 710 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 9: about uncertainty of fire cracker night. 711 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 6: Holy moly, you just. 712 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 7: Heard me say it's going to go off and there'll 713 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 7: be bangers and crackers everywhere. 714 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 6: There's no certainly about it. 715 00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: That we have. 716 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 4: Will is a real concern if they can't have that 717 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 4: influx of people and instead of the waterfront, they don't 718 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 4: have the space for as many stalls as there would 719 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 4: be beach. 720 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: So look, we are trying to Yeah, we're trying to 721 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: get to the bottom of it. Look, we have Crystal 722 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: has been in contact with Minister Brent Potter's office now 723 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: it says there is a quote from Brent Potter saying 724 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: that the Northern Territory Government's finalizing plans to deliver the 725 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: biggest and best Territory Day yet with an exciting program 726 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: of events to be released. There will be no changes 727 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: to everyone's ability to buy or sell fireworks, so nothing 728 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: there in terms of the location. We are due to 729 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: catch up with Brent Potter on Tuesday morning, so hopefully 730 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: we'll have some further detail at that point in time. 731 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, look, I'll be really interested to find out 732 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: a bit more about this to our listeners out there 733 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: this morning. If you do have further information in terms 734 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: of if you are somebody that's got a market stall, 735 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: or if you are somebody that you know that is 736 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: impacted by this, if you've been told further detail, feel 737 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: free to get contact with us but look, you know 738 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: that's I guess part of the discussion this morning. The 739 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: other part of the discussion about the economy that I 740 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: do want to get to in some really good news 741 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: will Tamboran well for some some who are against fracking, 742 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: maybe not so much, or some who are against gas, 743 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: maybe not so much. But Tamboran Resources has passed the 744 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: final green tape needed to frack the Beterloo sub basin 745 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: after being granted environmental approvals to begin that drilling. According 746 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: to a report in the NT News, the Northern Territory 747 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: Government approved Tamboran's environmental management plan to construct four exploration 748 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: and appraisal sites and undertake drilling and flow testing of 749 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: up to fifteen wells at the Natural Gas field five 750 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: one hundred kilometers southeast of Darwin. 751 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 9: This should have happened four years ago, Katie. This should 752 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 9: have happened a long time ago. They should be out 753 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 9: there drilling right now. 754 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 755 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 9: There's probably a problem for the Labor government. Can we 756 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 9: know that their party don't support the gas and they 757 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 9: had to cancel their annual conference because they didn't want 758 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 9: the media storm. I'm not the sea your p who 759 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 9: support gas always have supported gas. It's just unfortunate that 760 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 9: it's taken so long. 761 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: You have just come through. 762 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 6: E has has been so. 763 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: For throwing support games. 764 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 7: Of course our party support the policy. 765 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 6: Look at the statements. Yes we suppodcast. 766 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: That was pretty funny because we kept asking and you 767 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: kept saying we support. Well, do you what about thrashing. 768 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 6: Such a simple answer, Yes we do. And transition. 769 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 9: The party contract fifteen years. 770 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 7: With Tambora are the Labor Party? 771 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: No answer more uncertainty. 772 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 5: Well, the people of Johnson will judge you in a 773 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 5: couple of months. 774 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, they will, and they have every right to because 775 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 7: that's what happens in seventy eight days. 776 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 6: Look, it is. 777 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: It is all part of the discussion though about the 778 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: economy right, and earlier in the week we did speak 779 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: about some of the concerns that had been raised by 780 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: master builders. The latest abs residential building approval starter had 781 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: been released, with master Builders of the Northern Territory saying 782 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: that it confirms the urgent need for substantial government grants 783 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: to support the construction of new homes. So according to 784 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: the CEO Ben Carter, that data shows that only twenty 785 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: four new dwellings were approved for construction in April this year. 786 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: That's down twenty nine percent on the March figures. The 787 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: figures confirmed that the territories on track to record one 788 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: of the worst years on record for the construction of 789 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: new private sector dwellings. 790 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 5: I think, well, there's never one single factor. I think 791 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 5: there's a few things at play. Interest Rates clearly impacted 792 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 5: absolutely to embark on a new home, but also the 793 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 5: confidence that people either do or don't have in living 794 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 5: and investing in the Northern Territory. I mean, I've had stories. 795 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 5: I think we've all had stories of people leaving because 796 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 5: of a variety of reasons, can't get employment, can't get 797 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 5: the right kind of employment, or they just don't generally 798 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 5: feel safe in our community anymore. So, but I think 799 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 5: interest rates plays a big part. And you know, I 800 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 5: think the lack of confidence perhaps, I mean, I don't 801 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 5: know what they mean by getting the government to get 802 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 5: more grants. Are they talking about talking to. 803 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: Everyone? 804 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know that's quite possible. 805 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 4: But and the cost of living is also impacting lots 806 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 4: of people, you know, buying groes, buying eight dollar caps again, 807 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 4: you know, so people are more focused on that as well. 808 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: Crime. 809 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 4: You know, interest rates. As you said, it's all impacting people. 810 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 4: They're fearful of potentially, you know, building or buying a 811 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 4: new home up here. 812 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 9: And you remember a kind of being being ranked by 813 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 9: the concept last for five years in a row. I 814 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 9: think there were some new figures out yesterday saying that 815 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 9: now the state final amound by eight percent. 816 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 2: It was down. 817 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 9: You know, we know that the building approvals is down 818 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 9: to the lowest in history and record keeping. And this 819 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 9: labor government haven't been in power for eight years now 820 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 9: almost eight years, and they've had nothing to actually grow 821 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 9: the economy, and ultimately the economy has gone backwards. And 822 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 9: we know EVA has come out and see the economy 823 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 9: is going great. And I think if you ask Territorians 824 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 9: out their mums and dads out there working hard, if 825 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 9: they think the economy is going great, is going to 826 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 9: be No. Things are going backwards. We've got crime affecting people. 827 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 9: Even if you're a victim of crime, the cost of 828 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 9: that crime on businesses affects you because you have to 829 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 9: pay more of insurance and businesses and all. 830 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 2: That sort of stuff stack to crime. 831 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 6: Maybe you should go Territory. 832 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 2: Body, you put it back in. You didn't put it 833 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 2: back in so soublic. 834 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 9: It goes back to the economy and of the all 835 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 9: where the government want to talk about nothing and yet 836 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 9: the cop we've got our own home growth plan, which 837 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 9: will be if you're a new buy and you want 838 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 9: to build a home, you get fifty thousand dollars. If 839 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 9: you want to buy an existing home you get ten 840 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 9: thousand dollars, and the right size thing one you get 841 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 9: another thirty thousand dollars. And then there's a clear incentive to 842 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 9: build a house in the Northern territory. 843 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 2: Don't you build a house? You stay here hopefully. 844 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 7: And there's because you did. Outline, there has been a 845 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 7: lot of change in the way that households have spent 846 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 7: their money. In the last eighteen months, there's been twelve 847 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 7: interest rate rides where the interest rate cash row is 848 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 7: now four point three five percent. You can't get a 849 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 7: home loan for less than six percent eighteen months ago. 850 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 6: Two years ago, people are locked. 851 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 7: In home loans for one point nine nine percent. I 852 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 7: know someone within my circle of friends who has just 853 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 7: come off their fixed rate and they are really hurting 854 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 7: now because it's gone up fifty to one hundred percent 855 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 7: just based on the reserve Bank's interest rate rider, So 856 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 7: that's really hurting our economy. 857 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 6: And one of the biggest investments that you make is 858 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 6: a house. 859 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: Look, we are going to have to take a quick break. 860 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty. 861 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: It is the week that was. We have been talking 862 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: fishing quite a bit this week. Actually, we spoke about 863 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: the possibility of a jetty at East Point. Some of 864 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: you are all for it, others not so much. All 865 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: of us wondering where will the money come from? That 866 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: is the big question whenever we build something new. But 867 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: we know the government have said that they're making the 868 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: territory's favorite pastime even better with nineteen point eight million 869 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 1: dollar investment into budget twenty twenty four for more wreck 870 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: fishing infrastructure. 871 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 5: In the top end. 872 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: And it did get people talking throughout the week wondering 873 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: whether a jenny would be a good thing at East Point. 874 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: Some going oh, nah, you know this, No, you know 875 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: the gates don't even open past a certain time at 876 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: East Point. Others going yeah, this will be awesome. 877 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 5: But I've listened to people on the radio and I 878 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 5: think if it's done properly and it's not well and 879 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 5: it's designed engenuity, designed properly. Given our tides and the 880 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 5: drift of sand and all that sort of stuff, I 881 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 5: reckon it can only be a benefit. And of course 882 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 5: they have to lock the gates. They lock the gates 883 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 5: because the bloody behavior of bad people. We can't get 884 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 5: that sorted out. Then perhaps the game seened over the years. 885 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: You know, people go out and drive their cars or 886 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: try to you know, get hurt, the wallabies and all 887 00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 1: sorts of things. 888 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 5: So yeah, you always got to be yeah, exactly. 889 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 6: And the tides, as. 890 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 7: You said, Keyser of one of the advantages for that 891 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 7: spot because from Dudley Point, which if people don't know, 892 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 7: it's you know, out to each point just past Peewee's. 893 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 6: That the next main car park. 894 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 7: If we build a jetty and we've got enough money 895 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 7: to do that, yes it is, you know nearly twenty 896 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 7: bucks in the wreck fishing bucket. 897 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 11: Twenty dollars or twenty bucks, twenty bucks, twenty million bucks. 898 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 6: Sorry, twenty million dollars. 899 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 7: If we can get it out and there's a big tide, 900 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 7: you should be able to get you know, maybe a TRAVALI, 901 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 7: maybe a snaper whatever it is. But I think on 902 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 7: your show, the other week. I was on earlier this week, 903 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 7: I should say, and the feedback came immediately that there 904 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 7: needs to be some toilets. Of course, you know it's 905 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 7: an ablution block in that area. And so what I 906 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 7: really want people to is get. 907 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 6: Online and have your saying, make sure we know that. 908 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 2: Just give us the information frame on this. 909 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 4: I know you're having consultations now, but how long until 910 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 4: actually possible? 911 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 7: But give it a year or so. Give it a 912 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 7: year or so consultation, design, and then implementation. I got 913 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 7: home and my son, he doesn't engage with me that often. 914 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 7: He's a sixteen year old boy. He had somehow been 915 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 7: across this. 916 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 5: I think he listens. 917 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, probably during school hours. 918 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 7: He was asking me about She's like, Dad, he loves fishing. 919 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 7: He's like Dad, when's this jetty going to be ready? 920 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 7: Damn at Dudley point. And I was like, oh, mate, 921 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 7: nice to meet you again. I'm Dad, And yeah, away 922 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 7: we go. It's caught the imagination of my son, which 923 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 7: will hopefully catch the imagination all. 924 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: This is the thing. I mean. Look. The other topic though, 925 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: that has been a big discussion point this week is 926 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: the gill nets and concerns being raised after footage had 927 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: emerged that allegedly shows commercial barrel munday gil nets strung 928 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: across wide stretches of remote Northern Territory waters where commercial 929 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: fishing is banned. It's once again sparked the discussion about 930 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: whether there needs to be a buyback of those licenses. 931 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: We spoke yesterday on the show actually to Chris O'Brien 932 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: and Peter Palitis and had spoken about you know the 933 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: fact they say that you know that everybody sort of 934 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: wants this buy back to happen. Why is it not happened. 935 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 5: What's the hold up? Joel? 936 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 7: Well, FN are being very very good in their advocacy 937 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 7: for their stakeholders, and you know, there's sixty one thousand 938 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 7: people I think in the territory or identify as fishing 939 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 7: or fish ohs. We're working with them and I FIN 940 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 7: have put a very long list of requests to the 941 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 7: government and I'm sure they've put it to the opposition 942 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 7: as well. We're working through that. It's a really long 943 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 7: list and it's exhaustive to the to the point where 944 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 7: the amount of work that we're doing. 945 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 6: Through that list is just taking a little bit. 946 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 1: You would have to say that's probably top of the list, 947 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: So particularly if you've got like illegal that illegal gill 948 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: netting happening at the moment. 949 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 4: Is pretty damning when you've got, you know, so many 950 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 4: sharks that are are all dead caught up. 951 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 3: In these gillnets, and a lot of them. 952 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 6: You know. 953 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 4: I did a story a while back where they were 954 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 4: allegedly put in an illegal fishing spot and it had 955 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 4: moved and therefore gone into areas where wreckfishers go, and 956 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 4: they had to kind of take all of these nets 957 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 4: because they had all of this dead fish. 958 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 7: And they buy okaych buying mass from the gouinating is 959 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 7: an issue, and we're working through that. 960 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 6: Will have a lot more to say on this in. 961 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 4: The very saying a lot more to say, and that's 962 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 4: been saying a lot more for quite some time. 963 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,760 Speaker 3: When are we going to get an answer? 964 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 6: Well, you're going to have to watch this space. There's 965 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 6: no announcement today, Katie. 966 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: It's what is it, Monday, maybe Monday. 967 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 2: Fifty nine. 968 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 6: There's no announcement cand of be made. 969 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 7: But we're working through it and there will be. And 970 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,240 Speaker 7: that's because we've only got three months ago before. 971 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 3: The election, so they're going to be a month guarded 972 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 3: from the election. 973 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 6: Watch this space. 974 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,879 Speaker 1: But surely it's not just an election issue though, right. 975 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: It's an issue now where it's where. It's something that 976 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: has been discussed. We've seen in other states and we'll 977 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: have to keep it brief, but we've seen in other 978 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: states that they're phasing it out in the likes of Queensland. 979 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 1: It you know, yes, it costs money, but it doesn't 980 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 1: cost you know, billions of dollars. It's actually it looks 981 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: as though it can be quite a reasonable thing to do. 982 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 4: People will go elsewhere when if they're going fishing here 983 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 4: and can't catch anything, while did you come here when 984 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 4: you can go to Queensland where it is more regulated 985 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 4: and actually catch fish spend your money there. The red 986 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 4: fishing industry creates millions of dollars for us every single year, 987 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 4: so it's going to be such a huge loss of 988 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,280 Speaker 4: people decided to go elsewhere. 989 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 7: It's about a two hundred and seventy million dollar industry, 990 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 7: that's our calculations. 991 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 6: And why would people come to the territory for the 992 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 6: million dollar barrow. 993 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 11: Draw? 994 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: You want to be able to catch it, right, you 995 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: don't want it to be guilty was. 996 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,439 Speaker 7: Down for the Daily the other week and I caught 997 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 7: a barro and for a bloke who grew up in 998 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 7: our springs, that's an achievement. 999 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: And any update on whether you'll be getting your own boat. 1000 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 7: So oh, it's caused so much controversy and it's caused 1001 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 7: a little bit of heated conversations in the household. 1002 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 6: My son again, he has a couple. 1003 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,479 Speaker 5: Of kids, the ones that don't talk to you. 1004 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 6: We'll talk to me again. Give it, give it a 1005 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 6: few years. 1006 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 7: But my son has been texting me all the available boats, 1007 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 7: so maybe he was listening to your show. 1008 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: I reckon he was. 1009 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 7: I've had a five meter boat, a four meter boat, 1010 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 7: a three meter all texted me by my son up here. 1011 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 3: Now I thought it said twenty five. 1012 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 6: We're getting a numbers wrong. 1013 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 9: It's true, go back to fishing. There needs to be 1014 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 9: some reform about that. We needs to be strict oversight 1015 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 9: because if these illegal things are happening out there, inspecting 1016 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 9: it and making sure there's oversight. 1017 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 2: And it seems to be a very very limited budget. 1018 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 2: Again in relation to that, look. 1019 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 1: We are going to have to wrap up for the morning, 1020 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 1: but I do want to just remind everyone it's Georgie's 1021 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: last day. She's leaving the Northern Territory going to Sky 1022 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: News Melbourne. Georgy, George, you've done a phenomenal job in 1023 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. Some of your reporting on police issues 1024 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: and various other issues in the Northern Territory. I think 1025 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: it has been really commendable. You've done a phenomenal job. 1026 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,239 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the time that you've spent with 1027 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: us here on the show. We really appreciate it. You're 1028 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: going to be. 1029 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 3: Miss I'm very, very sad to leave. 1030 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 4: I think at the end of our probably burst into tears, 1031 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 4: but it's honestly been the best of territories, an amazing 1032 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 4: place here. Two years, it's been amazing. I'm very sad 1033 00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 4: to leave, but I will be back. 1034 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 5: It's the best. 1035 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 3: You haven't seen the last of me. 1036 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: Good well, Jered Mailey, thank you so much for your 1037 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: time this morning from the COLP. 1038 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 2: Thank you everybody. 1039 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: Georgy on our last day with nine News, Darwin, thank 1040 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: you for your time this morning. 1041 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 3: Fine, thank you everyone. 1042 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kesier Pure Independent, Good morning. 1043 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 5: Have you do community garden on Challers Circuits going open 1044 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 5: day on Sunday morning, Good stuff, Sunday Morning Communications. 1045 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: Rich all right, Well, look, we'll have this discussion afterwards, 1046 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: so just text me and let me know right day. 1047 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 7: Thank you, and wasn't it a great Thursday nightsier when 1048 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 7: the Tigers. 1049 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 6: Beat the Crows last night. 1050 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 2: What a way to start. 1051 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 1: Thank you all so much for your time this morning.