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Speaker 1: Now the Northern Territory Police Major Crime Squad have arrested

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Speaker 1: a man and a woman in relation to the disappearance

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Speaker 1: of Tony Row after they were both extradited back to

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory earlier this month. Now the operation has

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Speaker 1: been led by the Major Crime Squad, as I said,

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Speaker 1: and was stood up to investigate the circumstances behind the

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Speaker 1: suspicious disappearance of Darwin man Tony Row in May of

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Speaker 1: last year. Joining me in the studio to tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit more about the situation is the Acting

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Speaker 1: Deputy Commissioner Michael White.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Now, can you give us a bit of a reminder

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Speaker 1: of the circumstances firstly surrounding Tony Rowe's disappearance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, twenty eighth of May last year, mister Rowe

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Speaker 3: was last seen at a hotel or licensed premisest in

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Speaker 3: the Northern Suburbs and that was the last time he

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Speaker 3: had seen. His mother reported him missing in the next

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours forty eight hours later, so we conducted

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Speaker 3: commenced our investigation which saw obviously no leads in that point,

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Speaker 3: so we became concerned about that, so we commenced the

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Speaker 3: investigation in terms of a homicide because we had significant

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Speaker 3: concerns then that something untowarded happened to him. Due to

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Speaker 3: the public information calls, Certainly it provided police with some

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Speaker 3: avenues of inquiry which led to obviously now identification and

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Speaker 3: the apprehension of two offenders in relation to his disappearance.

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Speaker 1: Now, my understanding is said, obviously the twenty one year

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Speaker 1: old and twenty nine year old have there now before

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Speaker 1: the courts, so there's got to be some limitations in

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Speaker 1: what you can and can't tell us. But how were

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Speaker 1: they identified?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look a number of ways, and I can't really

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Speaker 3: go into that because of the court case. But certainly

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Speaker 3: you know that the information provided by the public from

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Speaker 3: calls of calls for information, and also so you know

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Speaker 3: the hard work and just the dedicated police work that

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Speaker 3: was required to identify that. We had a number of

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Speaker 3: people come forward using crime stoppers and other means to

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Speaker 3: we've done within interstate colleagues around tracking and identifying these

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Speaker 1: Is there much that you can tell us at this

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Speaker 1: point as to their alleged involvement.

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Speaker 3: All I can say is what they've been charged with.

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Speaker 3: And obviously, the twenty eight nine year old male has

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Speaker 3: again on the twelfth of July. And the female twenty

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Speaker 3: and some other offenses in relation to that.

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Speaker 1: And so it sounds as though the police have done

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Speaker 1: plenty of work in terms of trying to gain that

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Speaker 1: he still remains outstanding, doesn't he.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Look, and we're continuing to call for

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Speaker 3: any small snippet of information that they may think that's

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Speaker 3: not really relevant, We say that that's quite maybe not true,

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Speaker 3: and that you should report it to us, because any

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Speaker 1: I know there was a bit of confusion or some

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Speaker 1: wondering why yesterday you know, they were they had appeared

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Speaker 2: Why was that?

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Speaker 3: Basically again, it's a very challenging and sensitive investigation and

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Speaker 3: It's about getting all the ducts in a row in

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Speaker 3: and all gathered so we can we could act now.

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Speaker 1: In another incident, police have stopped a couple from fleeing

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Speaker 1: They're accused of committing fraudulent activity across the country.

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Speaker 2: What happened with this situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, the Joctor for the Joint Organized Crime Task

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, and so was there some additional work again

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Look, the organized crime space is certainly

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Speaker 3: that we do do. But it's clear with a number

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Speaker 3: those higher end criminals.

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Speaker 1: And Michael, it's been a pretty big week as well

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Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, obviously that cold case

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Speaker 1: missing person mystery was solved as a result of some

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. So mister Ryder was reported missing in

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Speaker 3: it turns out, it was mister Ryder and we've now

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Speaker 1: It'd be so important for that family after such a

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Speaker 1: it is something that you know that you can go

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, And you know, we're still working on

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Speaker 3: And in the last two years we've identified four people

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Speaker 3: now been able to be returned to their loved ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, And so there is further work then in

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Speaker 2: Here in the territory historically that he's still working on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and including technity of the craniofacial identification

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Speaker 3: photos of unidentified people that have been reconstructed from their skulls. Wow,

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Speaker 3: which is fantastic in that sense. And obviously if that

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Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible when you think about that technology and

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Speaker 1: the way that it's now able to be used, particularly

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Speaker 1: for some of those families who had probably thought to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. It is really pleasing to be able

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Speaker 3: they know it always for them must be upsetting every

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Speaker 3: day that they wake up and not knowing where their

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, Acting Deputy Commissioner Michael White, I really appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time this morning. Thanks so much for coming in and

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Speaker 1: having a chat with me.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Katie, Thank you