1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: And that was kind of that was the fear mentality 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: otherwise do I lean into this other side which is 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: completely unknown? But the fear of not doing it was bigger. 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: So the fear of regret for me was bigger than 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: just taking the safe option. 6 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Rise and Conquered Podcast. I'm your host, 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: Georgie Stevenson, former lawyer turned entrepreneur, social media personality and 8 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: personal development junkie. This podcast is for my girl gang 9 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: who want to feed their mind with positive and expansive 10 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: thoughts to help them step into their power and live 11 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: their most authentic life. Which had a variety of topics 12 00:00:55,440 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: including mindset, business, relationships, health, and so much more. Basically, 13 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: wherever you are on your journey, I want to help 14 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 2: you feel inspired and empowered to rise up and conquer 15 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: your next bold move. I know that's going to look 16 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: different for everyone, but just no, I'm right here by 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: your side and that you have the RNC community behind you. 18 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: Let's do this. 19 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: Hey guys, Welcome back to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. 20 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: It is your host Georgie Stephenson, and today I have 21 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: another replay episode for you. This is an episode that 22 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: I did. I think it was a couple of years 23 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: ago now on the Amy Rushworth Show. I absolutely love 24 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: Amy and everything she is about. She is a confidence 25 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: coach and I've actually had her on my potty and 26 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: it was one of the most listened to EPPS when 27 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: it dropped, which I will link in the show note. 28 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: But she had me on her podcasts. So in this 29 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,279 Speaker 2: podcast you'll hear about my perspective of leaving law to pursue, 30 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: you know, my unknown wellness career that turned into naked 31 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: harvests and blossomed into so much more. I also chat 32 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: about my past with disordered eating and exercise and how 33 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: I got to a place to health without obsession. I 34 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: chat about what it's like being an influencer, how my 35 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: message has really changed over time, and just about learning 36 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: from my failures and fears and growth and so much more. 37 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: This is a juicy episode and we have condensed it 38 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: to just the you know, the good parts, So I 39 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: really hope you enjoy and I'll see you in my 40 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: next episode for a solo podcast. 41 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 4: I think it's so brave as well, because I'm not 42 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 4: sure if you know this, Doorgy, but I actually did 43 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: half my law degree and then I changed to fashion, 44 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 4: so same sort of thing, like bit of a didn't. 45 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 46 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 4: I think those people who are genuinely attracted to law 47 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: or you know, say even medicine or even business, you know, 48 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: tend to be high achieving personalities. They tend to have 49 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: a real drive and a real ambition to tick boxes 50 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 4: and to hit those goals. And there can be a 51 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 4: very much prescribed ladder that you have to climb, or 52 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 4: a path that you think that you have to take. 53 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: And I don't know if anyone ever told me I 54 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 4: needed to take that path. I don't know about you, 55 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 4: but it was just path right, Oh yeah. 56 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 5: No, I just like thought, I that's what I had 57 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 5: to do. 58 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's that driving you, that's like I need 59 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 4: to do this, I need to be valuable, I need 60 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: to hit these goals. So I think it's really brave 61 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 4: that you took that leap, And obviously taking that leap 62 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: has paid huge dividends because you have this amazing almost 63 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: wellness empire now and such an engaged audience of people 64 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: who really trust what you have to say in this 65 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: amazing company that you're building. So I think it's incredible. 66 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: So what were the turning points there for you? Like 67 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: what encouraged your What pushed you to take that leak? 68 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: Did you have a coach? Did you read self help books? 69 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: Was it your intuition? I'd love to hear that. 70 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: I guess looking back, it was kind of a mixture 71 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: of things for a while there. I did get onto podcasts, 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: and at first I was listening to just health podcasts 73 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: because you. 74 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 5: Know, that was the main thing I was into. 75 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: And then I did start listening to a lot of 76 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: self development podcasts. And I think it's like it started 77 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: this spark in me whereas like I don't just have 78 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: to do what society thinks I can do. It's almost 79 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: like it never occurred to me that I could really 80 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: intuitively go and do my own thing and what feels 81 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: good to me. 82 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: It's kind of like, I don't. 83 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: Want to say like I was a robot, but I 84 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: just had it just never occurred to me. So definitely 85 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: had some influences from podcasts and I was reading a 86 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: couple of books. But another big thing when this massive 87 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: decision came up is I really looked to how I felt, 88 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: and again this is something I had never done, Like 89 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: I remember growing up. 90 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: I chose law because. 91 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: I remember, actually my big brother's girlfriend did law, and 92 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: I remember how people treated her when she said she 93 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: did law. It was almost like I wanted to fit in. 94 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: I wanted to feel those feelings of oh, you're doing law, 95 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: that's important, that's you know, you're that sort of person. 96 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: So a little bit of that. 97 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: But when I was coming to this big decision, I 98 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: kind of realized that do I stay in this position 99 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: of fear? So the fear was the fear mentality was, 100 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, just take the safe option. 101 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: I've done this. 102 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: I think I did six years of study and then 103 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: I changed. So I had just done six years of study, 104 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: got this safe option. I know I'm going to earn 105 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: a certain amount of money. You know, being a lawyer, 106 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: it comes with a certain status in society. 107 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: You know. 108 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: I knew my parents would be proud of me, and 109 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: that was kind of that was the fear mentality. Otherwise, 110 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: do I lean into this other side which is completely unknown? 111 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: But the fear of not doing it was bigger. So 112 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: the fear of regret for me was bigger than just 113 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: taking the safe option. 114 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 5: And yeah, it was kind of like, if I don't. 115 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 6: See what's here and see what this could lead to, 116 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 6: I think that's going to be one of the biggest 117 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 6: regrets and I just couldn't stand that. 118 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, that kind of sums it up. I'm sorry 119 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: brambled on there. 120 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: No, that's amazing. It's like your fear of missing out 121 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: is slightly bigger than your fear of you know, losing 122 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: the safety, losing the security in the path map doubt. 123 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 4: I love that. I have a very simi experience. To 124 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: be honest, you talk also about health without the obsession, 125 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: So I think a lot of people, definitely in the 126 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: UK look to influencers for health advice now, so a 127 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 4: lot of people, you know, they won't go to a 128 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: nutrition as they're looking to influencers. And some people are 129 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: using their platform really responsibly. Some people are using it 130 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: in different ways. What do you mean by health about 131 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: the obsession and how do you try and empower your 132 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: followers with I guess wellness advice from your platform? 133 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: So first of all, I am not a qualified anything. 134 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: I actually am a health coach, but I don't really 135 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: see that as some like something that someone should be 136 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: giving advice, as it was just personally something I wanted 137 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: to do. So first of all, when I say wellness, 138 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: health without obsession on my account, I'm never giving advice 139 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: to others, and that's for a very specific reason and 140 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: kind of like you said, I. 141 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 5: Think in this day and age. 142 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: Lots of influencers who really don't have qualifications, but you know, 143 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: maybe they have a really good fun after photo giving 144 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: out advice to people, very misleading advice and very body 145 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: dissorting advice. And so this I went through this whole 146 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: transformation where you know, I got into health and fitness 147 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: and I was following all the fits vorration accounts and 148 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: I did lose quite a bit of weight, about ten kilos. 149 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: And I was not, you know, a bigger girl or 150 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: anything like that. So I was very lean and I 151 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: was very ripped. But that was done in a very 152 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: unhealthy way through looking at other influences, so you know, 153 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: very tactics of nothing, you know, extremely unhealthy. 154 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 6: But it was just eating really low calorie foods. 155 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: I was over exercising and I did that for about 156 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: two years, lost the weight. I was very tiny, I 157 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: was very lean. I increased lots of followers because of it. 158 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: But into that journey, I then started getting a whole 159 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: host of health issues. So I had a hormone imbalance, 160 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: I lost my monthly for over a year. I had 161 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: really bad adult acne. I had exhaustion. During this period, 162 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: I was also doing my law degree. You can imagine 163 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: just how exhausted I felt all the time because I 164 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: wasn't eating enough and it just led to all these 165 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: health issues. And then I spent a good year and 166 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: a half basically going the opposite way, where I had 167 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: to start putting on weight and start learning to eat. 168 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 5: The right way. 169 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: And I worked with a natural path and a nutritionists 170 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: and you know, kind of did it the right way 171 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: without the influences on social media, and you know very much, 172 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: I just bought into diet culture so much without even 173 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: realizing it was diet culture. So I kind of had 174 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: to retrain my brain. And that was a very I 175 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: don't want to say traumatic, but you can imagine I 176 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: had this, you know, substantial platform. I looked a certain way, 177 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: and then I'm going through all these health issues my body, 178 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: like I'm putting on weight, Like you could imagine how 179 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: I was feeling as a person in the spotlight, very confused, 180 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: didn't know what was happening and anyway, So that just 181 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: was the biggest lesson for me, and that's why I'm 182 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: a big advocate for health without obsession because, like myself, 183 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: had just been through such a journey of being so 184 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: obsessed that you know, I was never diagnosed with an 185 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: eating disorder, but I definitely had disordered eating habits and 186 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: disordered body image issues. It's just something I don't wish 187 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: on anyone, and I know it is so prevalent on 188 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: social media, and it can be so indirect. So I remember, 189 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: you know, I put a post up and I'd be like, 190 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: just did an hour run working off those donuts last night, 191 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: And so I'm not giving anyone advice, but indirectly, I'm 192 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: telling you that if you eat donuts, you should go 193 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: run for an hour, which is not a healthy habit 194 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: or a healthy way to look at yourself. So I 195 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: learned from my own lessons that health without obsession is 196 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: very important, and so that's something that I really tried 197 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: to teach on my platform. I like to think I'm 198 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: not completely health anymore, but it's still a really big 199 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: part of my personal brand. 200 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 4: Amazing, thank you so much for sharing all that. I 201 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 4: think it probably takes a certain level of humility and 202 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: courage as well, when you've built a platform based on 203 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: a certain lifestyle or a certain set of principles or 204 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 4: things that you promote to then go through that shift 205 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 4: very publicly and to really own that. And I think 206 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: that's amazing, and that's probably why many of your followers 207 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: have stuck around, because you really do radiate that authenticity 208 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 4: and you know that, or at least I know when 209 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: I'm watching you that what you're talking about is very 210 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: genuine and very you know, authentic in a world that 211 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 4: is not always very genuine and authentic. 212 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, I appreciate that. Yeah, for sure, it 213 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: was definitely hard. Bit I even like a year ago 214 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: or so, I even did like a post apologizing to people, 215 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: being like, if you're still here and you followed me 216 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: five years ago, I'm sorry for some of the stuff 217 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: I posted because it was. 218 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: Not helpful and it was not healthy at all. 219 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, well again, I think that's really brave and just 220 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 4: really authentic. And we're all human, right, and we evolve 221 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 4: and we change, and you know, I do business coaching 222 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 4: for women in wellness as well, and often they're really 223 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 4: scared to put themselves out there I say the wrong 224 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: thing because they are scared that they're gonna, you know, 225 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 4: not stand by that later on, and they're going to 226 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: change or evolve. But I think that's natural that we 227 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 4: all change. We change our values some times, we change 228 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 4: our opinions really radically and our paradigms about how we 229 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 4: should live. So, you know, I do think that it's 230 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: normal that people do that, and you know, acknowledging it 231 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: like you did is awesome. Above that, Georgie. So just 232 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: switching gears for a minute, encountering fear, failure and setbacks. 233 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 4: I mean, you essentially run is it three businesses within 234 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: your business? Is it three? 235 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 236 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: Three businesses? 237 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 5: Yeah? 238 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? So I mean obviously both of us know in 239 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 4: business it looks nice and shiny and fun on the outside, 240 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 4: working through your laptop, you know, doing what you want. 241 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 4: But there's a lot of failure. There's a lot of fear. 242 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that go wrong behind the scenes. 243 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 4: So how do you deal with that, especially because you 244 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 4: have this public platform, And what is your like failure 245 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 4: and your setbacks? What have they taught you and how 246 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 4: have you learned to I guess, rise and conquer above those. 247 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: It's funny because obviously, you know, I listen to the 248 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: self development podcast and I read all the books that 249 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: nothing quite get you ready until you're like in the 250 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: shit and you're doing. 251 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: The doing the things. 252 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: And I have no background in business or anything like that. 253 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: I'm kind of just you know, throwing it at the 254 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: wall and seeing if it stays you're absoletely honest. But 255 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: I guess for me, something for me that has been 256 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: very important with my businesses is going slow. For all 257 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: my businesses, I didn't take any like loans or anything 258 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: like that. It was very much do what I could 259 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: with the money I had, and then slowly built on that. 260 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: That was something that was very important because you know, 261 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: if it did fail or anything like that, it's not 262 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: like I would have all this debt. So that was 263 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: something that I try to do. And I also think 264 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: if you don't go to be too fast, you can 265 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: very much grow with the business. So imagine, you know, 266 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: a problem now compared to a problem when you scale it, 267 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: it's very different. 268 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 5: And I think the whole process. 269 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: Of going through it little bits at the time is 270 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: what gets you ready for it. 271 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 5: So kind of growing with your business. 272 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: But I guess also a big thing my realization is 273 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: to have a good team around you. Obviously I'm one person, 274 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: and like you said, I have these three businesses happening, 275 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: and I would not be able to do a single 276 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: one without the people I have around them, have around me. 277 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: Sorry. 278 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: So for instance, with Naked Harvest, I co founded that 279 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: with my brother and we work so well together because 280 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: we're not opposites, but he brings skills that I don't have, 281 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: and vice versa. And then we have a lot of 282 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: trust because we are brother and sister. I guess, you know, 283 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: it's just there, but we have a lot of trust 284 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: with each other and that really works well. And then 285 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: in my own business, I have like a project manager 286 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: and she also works in Naked Harvest and growing with 287 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: her and tea her and having her support has obviously 288 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: been amazing. And then we've got like people scattered throughout. Yeah, 289 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: that's probably like the biggest thing for me is finding 290 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: people who are invested in who are willing to grow 291 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: with you, and who you can trust and bring the 292 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: skills that you don't have. A big thing for me 293 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: in business is realizing that it's not really realizing because 294 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: I definitely know I'm not good at everything. But where 295 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: I can tell that I'm you know, not, I call 296 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: it my zone of genius. 297 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 6: So where I don't have my zone of genius. 298 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: We very much will outsource it to another team member 299 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: or someone like that, and you kind of you give 300 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: the trust with that person and then it's not like 301 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: you trying to do all the tasks all the time 302 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: and they're all mediocre. You're having you know, specific people 303 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: who are really good at it. 304 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: And that's what I've found really works for us. 305 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. I think when you're starting out it 306 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 4: can be easy to be a little bit stingy. I 307 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 4: think and think, no, no, I won't outsource that. I'll 308 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 4: just do that and I'll just work six hundred and 309 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 4: seventy hours a day, you know. But I've definitely learned 310 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 4: that as well. And as you outsource, I think there's 311 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 4: six people in my team and people are like, wow, 312 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 4: I didn't know that, But I'm like, oh my god, 313 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 4: it allows me to do so much more and actually 314 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 4: just scale slowly, you know, you slowly add team members 315 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 4: and you slowly add help. But I think you never 316 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: feel fully ready to delegate. I don't know about you. 317 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: Oh, Like I'm still now, like I'm such a control 318 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: freak and. 319 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 5: It's really bad. 320 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: It's something like I'm working on and I still kind 321 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: of oversee most stuff, but it's it's you end up 322 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: being the bottleneck of your own company and when you 323 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: kind of let go and you have people you can trust, like, 324 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: it's extraordinary what sort of growth you can have? 325 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 4: Totally totally. 326 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 5: Rn C. 327 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: Fam. 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I know about a year ago your acne 360 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 4: came back and you were really quite honest about that 361 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: and you were showing your audience and it was like 362 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: quite a bad flare up, wasn't it, And so what 363 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: was that light going through that again, and as a 364 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 4: wellness influencer and someone who you know talks about healthy 365 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 4: lifestyle and then your skin, which is obviously very visible 366 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: and a lot of people, I guess, associate skin health 367 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 4: with overall health. How was that for you and what 368 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 4: was that process like for you? And how have you 369 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 4: cleared up your skin. 370 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: I've had adult acne quite a few times, and it's 371 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: like I've had it, you know, like before my wedding 372 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: and then like a couple of years after, and all 373 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: these different times that it's very much popped up during 374 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: stressful periods of my time. And it's funny because I've 375 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: actually realized that it tends to pop up when I'm 376 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: not being my most authentic self, which is really it's 377 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: like my body telling me that, like you're doing something wrong. 378 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: And so, for instance, I got really bad adult acne 379 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: right before the whole decision to quit law, and to 380 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: be honest, I think it. 381 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 5: Was like I was just doing too much. 382 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: Obviously, you know, you know, you can get acne and 383 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: have health issues, but mine all very much happen when 384 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: my body is trying to tell me something. 385 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: Because we get to a point. 386 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: Where we've ignored our body, so much that it then 387 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: kind of gives us something that goes you know, you 388 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: can't ignore this. So how I dealt with it when 389 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: it was actually happening on social media, and definitely how 390 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: I recommend is I was just fully transparent. I was 391 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: just like, you know, I'm going through this, this is 392 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: what's happening. I had actually dealt with it previous, so 393 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: it was kind of a lot easier to tell my 394 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: audience and they were very understanding because I had had 395 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: it before, and I worked with a natural path to 396 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: get to kind of the root of my hormone and 397 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: balance and. 398 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: Get that sorted. 399 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: And basically, to be honest, like the whole thing was 400 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: just I was doing too much in my business in 401 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 1: myself and I wasn't really leading my most authentic life. 402 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: It's like I was trying to force too much into 403 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 1: my life all the time. And I think that's like 404 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: it's living in that scarcity mindset where you're kind of like, no, 405 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: I have to take this job and I have to 406 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: do this, because when you work for yourself, you kind 407 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: of feel like this obligation to do it. So basically 408 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: I was just doing too much and my hormones went 409 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: completely out of balance, and I worked with a nature 410 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: path and we fix that up that it actually wasn't 411 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: that bad being on social media and dealing with that 412 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: because I was so transparent with my audience, and when 413 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: you are transparent with your audience, I think they very 414 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 1: much they value that and they understand that, and so 415 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: I really didn't care too much totally. 416 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 4: I see that a lot. I don't acne with a 417 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 4: lot of my clients Georgie, and usually it's like resentment 418 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 4: and anger that literally purges to the surface, and and 419 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 4: anger come from not saying no right like cramming so 420 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 4: much in I always break out the same thing if 421 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 4: I've been inauthentic and I've said yes to people when 422 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 4: I really wanted to say no. But you know, when 423 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 4: I need to have firmer boundaries, it's like my skin 424 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 4: saying aims, this isn't how we roll. Come on, mate, 425 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 4: like you know, say be authentic, say no like you 426 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: can say no and be loving. I guess it's really 427 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 4: awful if anyone's going through that and they feel really 428 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 4: self conscious, But I try and reframe it with anyone 429 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 4: who I work with as this gift and this message 430 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 4: from your skin that something's not working, and that it 431 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: wants to help you to figure out what is going 432 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 4: to be best to help you to feel supported, and 433 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: what's going to be the best way forward for you. 434 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. 435 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: And also I love what you said about it's like 436 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: it's almost like there's always a lesson and there's always 437 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: something in there. And the last time I got adult acne, 438 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: even though I had come a long way in my 439 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: body image issues, I still held a lot of my 440 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: value in my beauty and I think as women, we 441 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: really we all do. And so it was a really 442 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: good time to kind of dive into that and explore 443 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: this whole topic of seeing myself as you know, the 444 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: outside instead of the inside. So that was definitely a 445 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: lesson in there too. So I love what you said 446 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: about that. 447 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such a good point. You know, there's nothing like, 448 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 4: you know, a face full of acne or a health 449 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: issue that presents on the outside to really, I guess, 450 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 4: in our world make you walk your talk, yes about 451 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: the inside being more important than the outside. And I 452 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 4: think you know, it's difficult, even if you do talk 453 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 4: about that, to really embody that when it happens to you. 454 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 4: I think it is really hard for a lot of women. 455 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And yeah it's funny because you know, 456 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: we we do these captions and all this sort of stuff, 457 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: and then something like this happens, and so much of 458 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: me wanted to just retreat and not film YouTube and 459 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: not do Instagram and you know, like, oh my stories, 460 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm always not wearing makeup, and so so much of 461 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: me just wanted to retreat. But I was like, this 462 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: is like this has happened for a reason, and I 463 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: really need to stand up. 464 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 5: To myself and be like the way I look on the. 465 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: Outside does not define me and is not my value 466 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: and is not my work. 467 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a really good lesson. 468 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 4: Amazing and a good example I think for some of 469 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 4: the young women who follow you, for sure. Yeah, sure, 470 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 4: absolutely So in terms of the people that follow you, 471 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 4: I'm sure you get a lot of dms because you've 472 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 4: got a lot of following. I certainly do, and I'm 473 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 4: nowhere near the same size audience. So what are the 474 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: things that people tend to message you and ask you 475 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 4: a lot about, Like what are the issues that you 476 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 4: are hearing about in the world that we're living in 477 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 4: right now? 478 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 479 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: Great, question. Well, a lot of my dms are like 480 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: stuff like you know, where's that dress from? 481 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: And all that sort of stuff. 482 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: So I get some of like, you know, the mostly 483 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: basic sort of questions and queries, but deeper than that, 484 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: especially through my podcast. I guess because of the topics 485 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: I talk about, I feel like we're going through this time, 486 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: and I guess I shouldn't generalize that. I feel like, 487 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: because of my experiences, we're going through this period where 488 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: women are really starting to realize their potential in society. 489 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: And like I was kind of saying, I didn't even 490 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: realize that. Like if you told me two or three 491 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: years ago that I would be where I and now, 492 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: I would be like, no, I would be you know, 493 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to be a baby lawyer working under all 494 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: these people and just minding my own business and doing 495 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to be doing. And now even though 496 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: it's not like I'm a big disruptor, but I definitely 497 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 1: call myself someone who's I'm talking about, you know, issues 498 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: that are important to me. I'm talking about empowering women 499 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: and you know, like I'm off starting these businesses and 500 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: just like doing these things that I never thought were 501 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: possible and even though I had these really amazing parents 502 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: who are so encouraging, I just really never thought that 503 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: I could or you know, that my presence in society 504 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: was even anything. So something I'm really noticing is women 505 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: women as starting to get this feeling of I. 506 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 5: Want to make a difference. 507 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: I want to actually stand up for what I believe in, 508 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: and I want to talk about these things, and I 509 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: don't know, it's like it's a really cool conversation and 510 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: it's a really cool feeling because I feel like a 511 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: lot of us, it's almost like we just don't realize 512 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: our potential and what we could be doing with our 513 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: lives because for so long we're kind of just taught 514 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: that you go to university and then you get a job, 515 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: and you get married and you have kids, and then 516 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: you look after your kids, and that's kind of it. 517 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 5: So I'm really hearing a. 518 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: Lot of talk about having it all, having the family, 519 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: having the husband working, having the business, working like the 520 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: hours you want. 521 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 5: Doing what you want. 522 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 6: To do, and lots of people are seeking. 523 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 5: This, and yeah, it's really exciting. 524 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: So that's definitely something that keeps coming up and I'm 525 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: very happy about. 526 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. I hear that too, and I think 527 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 4: it's amazing. It's like this collective feminine consciousness rising and 528 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 4: people are realizing, like, hey, all of those rules that 529 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 4: I've been living by, they're just made it up. I 530 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 4: can actually live in a different but. 531 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 5: They're not actual rules. 532 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And actually, you know, if I think about it, 533 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 4: I'm like, who ever made up those rules? 534 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 5: To me? 535 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: I have really encouraging parents. They would have just been like, 536 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 4: do whatever you want, you know, And even if I 537 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: asked my mum, now, she's like, I never told you 538 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: to be a lawyer. You just always said you want 539 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,239 Speaker 4: it to be one, you know. But sometimes it's like 540 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 4: those implicit societal norms that we take on from such 541 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 4: a young age we don't even know, you know, even 542 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: the same as like needing to be thin or needing 543 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: to be all of that stuff. It's so subconscious and 544 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 4: so they rooted in us. 545 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: It's so deep, it's so bloody deep, and it's so 546 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: funny because yeah, like we said, it's almost like we 547 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: don't even question it, and for you know, twenty something years, 548 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: you just never question it. 549 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 5: And then you start questioning. 550 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: It and all these feelings come up and all these 551 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: emotions and you're like you, oh, it's a lot to 552 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: deal with, but it's a very exciting feeling to have 553 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: and to see other people. 554 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 4: Have to totally. So for anyone who is listening, who 555 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 4: maybe they're in the boat that you were in a 556 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 4: few years ago, or maybe there's someone who is in 557 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 4: their twenties. So maybe you know there's someone who's in 558 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 4: their early twenties and they're like, I can't do that yet. 559 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 4: You know, I'm too young, or I'm not intelligent enough yet, 560 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: or I don't have enough life experience yet. What advice 561 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 4: would you give someone who's like teetering on that edge 562 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 4: thinking that they're not enough to do the things that 563 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 4: they want to do. 564 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 5: Great question, Well, I love what you said about not. 565 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: Thinking you're smart enough, not thinking you're good enough, and 566 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: that's actually something I spent, like I didn't even think 567 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: that I could do my law degree because I didn't 568 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: think I was smart enough. 569 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 3: So that's a really good question. Amy. 570 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: I think a big thing is questioning why you even 571 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: have these excuses that come up, Like I said, that 572 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: feeling of okay, so I have this the fear of 573 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: the unknown of what could happen, what if I fail, 574 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, what are people going to think of me? 575 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 6: And to be. 576 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 5: Honest, it's almost like you kind of just. 577 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: Have to completely shut that off and just go this 578 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: is something I really want and if I don't do it, 579 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to completely regret it. And looking back now, 580 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: like if I didn't make that big decision. 581 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 5: I would have nothing that I have now and I would. 582 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: Be working corporate seven thirty to five thirty, which is 583 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: ridiculous hours. So you never know if you don't try, 584 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: So why not just try and see what happens? And 585 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: I know that it's so cliche, but there's so many 586 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: little things you can do to get to your goal. 587 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 3: Usually your goal. 588 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: Is like this big thing, and it's almost like just 589 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: look at the next tiny little step and do and 590 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: keep your head down, ignore what people will say or 591 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: even what you think they will say, because a lot 592 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: of the time it's just us projecting. And yeah, just 593 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: focus on that because in the end, this is your 594 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: only life. This is your one life, and if you 595 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: don't go after what you want and really pursue it, like, 596 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: what's the point? 597 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 5: If that makes sense. 598 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 3: I know that's kind of bold, but. 599 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 4: No, it makes total sense to me. Sometimes I say 600 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 4: to my clients, I'm like, they go, oh, you know, 601 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 4: but and they'll say, I'm not going to do this 602 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 4: thing because of this reason or this excuse. And I'm like, okay, 603 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 4: say this to me. Then say this to me. My 604 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 4: dream is not my priority right now. And they're like, yes, 605 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 4: oh damn, Amy, can you hit me at the sour spot? 606 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: You know? 607 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 4: And I'm like it's true, right, yeah, exactly. 608 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: And it's like we so, for instance, literally the tiniest 609 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: thing of thinking, you know, someone will think this or 610 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: someone will say this can literally stop us from chasing 611 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: our dreams. Like when you put that into perspective, that 612 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: is it's crazy. It's really crazy. And I think it's 613 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: also like you said, like you need to put it 614 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: into perspective, you need an Amy really Ah, thanks babe. 615 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the fear of judgment holds so many 616 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 4: people back. And the truth is people will judge you 617 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 4: when you do something bold, Like look at anyone who's 618 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 4: done anything amazingly. I'm sure Steve Jobs was judged. I'm 619 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 4: sure you know, Barack Obama is judge. You definitely was judged. 620 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 4: You know, lots of amazing people. Oprah was probably judged. 621 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 4: There are so many There's always going to be people 622 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 4: who judge you, right, there's lots of judge you Wudgy's 623 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 4: out there. But what matters is that you are proud 624 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 4: of yourself. What matters is that you don't judge yourself, 625 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 4: and you will judge yourself if you make other people's 626 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 4: judgments more important than your dreams. 627 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 5: That's so true. 628 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: Actually, Like something that I'm really leaning into at the 629 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: moment is, you know, the whole concept of like staying 630 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: in your own lane. I actually just recorded a about 631 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: honoring the season you're in because you know, so often 632 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: we look around and we compare ourselves to you know, 633 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: what they're. 634 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 5: Doing with their business, and oh, I. 635 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 3: Need to redo my website. 636 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: So it's like that, or I need to do a 637 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: package like that, or in a personal life, you know, 638 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: if someone's getting married or they're. 639 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 6: Not getting married or anything like that. And then also 640 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 6: with our bodies, like we're constantly like. 641 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 3: Oh, should I try the Kido diet? Should I do this? 642 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: Like there's constant noise around, and something I'm realizing is 643 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: deep down inside, I know exactly what I need and 644 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: what is good for me and what feels good for 645 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: me and what is my goal and what's going to 646 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: make me happy and just completely blocking out that noise 647 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: and just like going full steam ahead in my own 648 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: little lane. That's something that is really important because otherwise 649 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: you can just get so caught up and so distracted 650 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: by everything else going on. 651 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're looking for a problem that is internal to 652 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 4: be solved on the external, right, But it's like the 653 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 4: reverse situation. You're looking for a feeling, like when we 654 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 4: want to be married, or we want to be thin, 655 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 4: or we want to be rich, or we want to 656 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 4: have designer things, like any any of those outside things 657 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 4: that we want, it's because we want the feeling that 658 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 4: they bring us. So it's like, try and focus on 659 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 4: getting that feeling on the inside first within yourself, and 660 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 4: then you know, set goals, but there'll be goals that 661 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 4: come from, you know, the more authentic, soul led part 662 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 4: of who you. 663 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 5: Are exactly exactly. 664 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening for another RNC episode. I really 665 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 2: appreciate taking the time to be here with me, and 666 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: also for taking the time for yourself. 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