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Speaker 1: App Got anything good?

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Speaker 2: Hey, this is the Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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Speaker 1: I have dedicated two hours.

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Speaker 2: I broke it up into an hour yesterday and an

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Speaker 2: hour this morning to hear this full. Taylor Swift chat

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Speaker 2: with her boyfriend Travis and his brother Jason Kelse. They

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Speaker 2: do a great podcast together. You ever heard of called

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Speaker 2: New Heights. Yeah, it's inside their spot. Obviously you know,

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Speaker 2: not a mega fan, but they are just a joyous brothers,

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Speaker 2: just hearing their energy hanging out. But anyway, Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: was going on. Obviously she's dating Travis. So the reason

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Speaker 2: I wanted to watch is because my daughters just adore

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift and have done for years, especially my youngest

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Speaker 2: daughter Lower. She's been into Taylor Swift for evan. She

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Speaker 2: can explain what the songs mean and why they matter.

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Speaker 2: And I went with the girls to see Taylor last

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Speaker 2: year at the MCG and it was almost what I

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Speaker 2: call a spiritual experience. I've spent more time watching the crowd.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, the connection she has around the world

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Speaker 2: with her fans.

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Speaker 1: It was incredible.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, my daughters now, because they're eighteen and twenty one,

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Speaker 2: you have to find areas of connection with them. I

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Speaker 2: have to still find ways like a detective of being

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Speaker 2: in their world. They would not have heard this podcast yet,

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Speaker 2: they'd be stunned that I've taken effort to do this.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing this so I've got something to talk to

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Speaker 1: them about. And if you guys don't mate, I've made

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Speaker 1: some notes.

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Speaker 2: Please, I would love you because I've got then little

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Speaker 2: stepping stones they are to talk to my daughters about

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Speaker 2: what I've discovered.

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Speaker 1: From I really have got notes.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this is a page of some of

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Speaker 2: my notes from two hours of listened to Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: on the New Heights podcast. Taylor Swift and Travis Okay

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Speaker 2: play beer pong together.

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Speaker 1: On the podcast. No, no, no, that's their thing.

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Speaker 2: When friends come around, they play beer pong and they're

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Speaker 2: very good at it and undefeated.

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Speaker 3: Oh fuck, come on, that's that suck ups playing against

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Speaker 3: you your friends.

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Speaker 1: When you want the honor of beating them. No, you

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Speaker 1: want to beat them.

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Speaker 2: I know you at your competitive Taylor baked sourdough. She

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Speaker 2: goes on people's blogs to get their recipes.

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Speaker 1: She love. Her thing is to bake sourdough, all kinds

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Speaker 1: of living. Flu didn't expect that.

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Speaker 2: She tell you what I mean, I'm in all of

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Speaker 2: what I an artist she is, but also how she

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Speaker 2: runs a business, and that she there's a moment in

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Speaker 2: the in the interview that I actually did pause and

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Speaker 2: made a note about to talk to you guys about

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Speaker 2: about energy. She had this quote, you should treat your

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Speaker 2: energy as if it was a luxury item. Not everyone

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Speaker 2: can afford it. In other words, it's a scarce commodity.

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Speaker 2: Be careful what you give your energy to. And then

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Speaker 2: the really big takeaway from me was about the Otters.

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Speaker 2: Travis a boyfriend. I mean, he's huge, He's an American

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Speaker 2: football player. It's in the size of it, that big

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Speaker 2: beefy dude, right. He wants to save an otter? What

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Speaker 2: that who doesn't love waters?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: He spends hours watching Otter videos Instagram. Some Scottish guy

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Speaker 2: he follows probably doesn't even know, and watches him in

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Speaker 2: his kayak going through these Scottish like Scottish rivers rescuing otters.

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Speaker 1: And he spends his life his spare time. That's his hobby.

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Speaker 2: He's watching this guy and his kayak with the with thesetters.

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Speaker 1: I can believe it.

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Speaker 3: All I really use the internet for is sour dough

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Speaker 3: and when travels videos of otters on his Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I want a wild so bad.

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Speaker 3: He wants one, specifically whose life he saved, who knows

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Speaker 3: that he's seeing. He wants to see an otter and

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Speaker 3: the otters like my past call Michelle and he's like,

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Speaker 3: I got you. And then it's and you're kayaking, and

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Speaker 3: it's like doing this to you, Like that's what he

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Speaker 3: wants and I want it to Honestly.

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Speaker 2: I get well, if you wanted an otter, you would

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Speaker 2: want one that you've rescued, and that otter know that

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Speaker 2: it owes its life to you. You need to bond

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Speaker 2: between large beefy man and an otter. The Christian O'Connell

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