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Speaker 1: Job mission with jos and Amanda. This who's just come through?

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Speaker 1: It's Sam Vergess.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Sam, Hello, I've got a ghoulie for you in

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Speaker 2: my phone this morning.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work.

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Speaker 2: Now it didn't work. I'm over in Thailand and I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I know you guys have been trying to call,

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Speaker 2: so I apologize for that.

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Speaker 1: So that's okay. You didn't hear You didn't hear anything

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Speaker 1: of the radio show for the last five minutes, did you?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, no? What did I mean?

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Speaker 3: We were concerned. I know you're working with Russell, and

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Speaker 3: we thought Russell doesn't always like us, and we thought

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Speaker 3: he may have insisted you didn't call through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not the care.

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Speaker 1: It's not the case. Are we back on with Russell?

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Speaker 1: Are you just putting a good word for us?

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Speaker 2: I can't confirm that. I don't know the story.

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Speaker 3: It's nothing bad, Sam, congratulations watching how grueling? It was

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Speaker 3: so much harder I felt than last year.

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Speaker 2: For me.

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Speaker 3: The worst thing was watching you with your bad shoulder

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Speaker 3: get stuck in that tube. I couldn't breathe. What was

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Speaker 3: the worst or hardest thing for you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was that going through the tunnel

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Speaker 2: was the most challenging thing from the last on the course.

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Speaker 2: I didn't expect it and I didn't physically think I

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Speaker 2: could fit through that tunnel. And then whilst I was

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Speaker 2: in there, just so uncomfortable and knowing there's no way,

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Speaker 2: there's no way out, so yeah, and the air in

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Speaker 2: there was sort of limited. It was just a really

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable time, but also kind of a powerful one to

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Speaker 2: get through so early on in the piece to know

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Speaker 2: that la I can control my mind through that much discomfort.

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Speaker 2: So it was a really double edged sword.

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Speaker 1: Really when you when you watch the show, because I'm

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Speaker 1: a big fan of it, it seems like a ghost

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Speaker 1: for months. But actually, how long are you in the

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Speaker 1: essays camp for.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're there for two weeks, so like fourteen days,

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Speaker 2: which might not sound too long, but I can guarantee

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Speaker 2: you if you've ever done quarantine, a two week quarantine

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Speaker 2: is a long stay. You know, it's staying on the

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Speaker 2: stretch of beds, the limited food, you're out, You're uncomfortable,

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Speaker 2: cold and wet for that whole time. So it seems

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Speaker 2: a lot longer. And obviously when they air their show

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Speaker 2: you see what they come into. Two weeks of doing

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Speaker 2: the show. So but like I said, it's such a

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Speaker 2: great experience. You know, so many life lessons in netflik,

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Speaker 2: not for me, for people watching, the viewers and all

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Speaker 2: the contestants who are brave enough to say yes.

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Speaker 3: You said earlier in the show that you made yourself

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Speaker 3: very vulnerable. You said you lost respect for yourself, You

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Speaker 3: lost your career, your kids, your marriage. Passing this show,

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Speaker 3: Winning this show doesn't necessarily bring those things back. But

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Speaker 3: what have you reclaimed? How differently do you feel that yourself?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I've always I've always believed in myself

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Speaker 2: since a young age. I've always you know, I had

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Speaker 2: high goals and I think, you know, losing losing some

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Speaker 2: of you know, my identity in my career, a few

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Speaker 2: things in my personal life, I was almost track of that,

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Speaker 2: and you know the show helped me so I get

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Speaker 2: back on the track. So give me back to my

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Speaker 2: core values, what I believe in, who I love, what's

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Speaker 2: the most important thing in my life? You know, And

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Speaker 2: obviously you know I have responsibilities you always have had

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Speaker 2: since a young age, and you know, just to be

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Speaker 2: the best role model for those people in my life.

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Speaker 2: And so like it was just I think in times

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Speaker 2: of discomfort, and you know, and when things that going

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Speaker 2: your way, you can find moments of clarity. So and

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Speaker 2: that show was that for me.

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Speaker 1: And I looked like that, And I've got to tell you,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you did it. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you any of you people.

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Speaker 3: That even just looking at the toilets, we don't know

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Speaker 3: how you do.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how you did it.

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Speaker 2: It's just me. It is horribly. It is mental. The

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Speaker 2: show is mental. But I mean, you know what you're

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Speaker 2: signing up for, and I think it is watching now,

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Speaker 2: but looking back, it's you can draw so many different

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Speaker 2: life skills from it, experiences, relationships that you can take

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Speaker 2: forward in life, you know, because you know, we all

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Speaker 2: know it's ups and downs. And like I said that,

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Speaker 2: the more times you've faced fear or put in those places,

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Speaker 2: you sort of learn more about yourself and how to

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Speaker 2: manage it. So it's great. It's just a wonderful experience.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was great to watch you on the show.

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Speaker 2: Sam.

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Speaker 1: We wish you all the best in the future. Say

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Speaker 1: hello to Rusty for us. Tell us that tell him

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Speaker 1: that it was something a man did, it wasn't me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, listen. I got to ask. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: have to ask the story from us. Also, yeah, i'll pass.

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Speaker 2: I'll pass.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Sam, and safe travel you Sam.

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Speaker 1: You look after yourself.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can go. Jonesy and Amanda's generation