1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: In the morning, we are honored to catch up with 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: our next guest. He's the Holocaust survivor who's spreading a 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: message of hope and happiness despite living through the horrors 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: of Auschwitz. He was the only member of his family 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: to survive the Holocaust. He's one hundred year old author, 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: brand new author known as the happiest man on Earth. 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Eddie Jaku, Hello, Hello, how about you being an author 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: at one hundred Did you ever imagine that would be 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: your story? 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: I never wanted to write a book, but when I 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: see what's going on in the world now, I said, 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: I have to put my message on paper because we 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: have to eradicate hate. Hate is a disease, and education 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: doesn't start at school, it started at home. The people 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: are too often using this world hate I have offered. 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Because of this world hate, Hitler has created hate in 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: a country which I loved because it was the most civilized, 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: most cultured, and certainly the most educated country in Europe. 20 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: And you were front and center when that happened. You 21 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: would have been sixteen there bats when Hitler came to. 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: Power, thirteen thirteen, when I came in power. The first 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: thing happened to me. I was in a school called 24 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: leibniz Kymnasium. My grandfather went to that school and I 25 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: was kicked out in October nineteen thirty three, thirteen and 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: a half years of age because I was Jewish. I 27 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: didn't think that was a difference. I was German first 28 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: and German second, and Jewish at home. Jewish is a religion, 29 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: not a race. I'm white like you. We were the 30 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: most assimilated community anywhere in the world. I lost two 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: and a grandfather fighting for Germany in fourteen eighteen, and 32 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: all my life I ask why, and for a hundred 33 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: years I haven't found them out. 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: Can I ask you this, Eddie? Is being happy a choice? 35 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: You could easily have hated what happened to your family 36 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: and what hated to you. Is it a choice? And 37 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this in the context of what we're 38 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: going through in our world. Now we can choose forgiveness 39 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: and choose happiness. 40 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: Correct, You're quite right. If I would come out of 41 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 1: the camp alive as I did nearly dead and would 42 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: not hate, then I fall in their footsteps. That's what 43 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: they wanted me. Didn't matter for them that I hate 44 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: them because They were powerful, and I was powerless. The 45 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: world stood still and let the German do a dirty job. 46 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: They knew exactly what happened. The Nazi party in Germany 47 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: was so small that could be crushed if somebody were 48 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: to interfere. That this was bad, but they were so 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: frightened for the Russian that it was better to support 50 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: fascism than communism. And I don't understand how a country 51 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: of Chilo and Gerte, of Beethoven and Mozart could fall 52 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: for a madman and murderer. And nothing uneducated can't speak 53 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: proper German and create a master race of German blood, 54 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: air and masteries. Nobody is superior and nobody is conferial 55 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: for yourself. 56 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: So at that time it must have been so surreal. 57 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: One minute you're thirteen, and as you say, you would 58 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: have blended in with other Germans. So did it happen 59 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: as quickly as were you rounded up and taken straight 60 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: to a concentration camp? Or did it take a long 61 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: time to get there? 62 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: Well, it took from nineteen thirty three he came to 63 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: power until nineteen thirty eight he created Christallinach. Now my father, 64 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: a wonderful German Man he made for me false papers 65 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: and I lived for five and a half years eight 66 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty kilometters. I lived in an orphanage because 67 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: I was supposed to be an orphanage. Often. At seventeen, 68 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: I was rewarded one of the finest to be accepted 69 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: in the finest union we have unions. When you belong 70 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: to a union, that's a homoe, that means you have 71 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: won some titles in making something very nice. And I 72 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: was rewarded, and I was in a blue rob with 73 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: white lece and my master also that's the dignity of 74 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: that union. And he says to me in German that 75 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: today the apprentice Walter's life is accepted in one of 76 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: the finest and oldest union in Germany. And I started 77 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: crying when he shaked me, and he was strong. He said, 78 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: you idiot, why are you crying? Because I couldn't tell 79 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: him I am not an orphan. I have wonderful parents 80 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: who should be now on my side. And I couldn't 81 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: hold back my tears that I tried that my lovely 82 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: mom and my dad could not be here and enjoyed 83 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: the pleasure and the honor of their son who has 84 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: done what his father has asked him. Today, I can 85 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: tell you I sent my father. He always told me 86 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: on the phone. And now Eddy is hot. But one 87 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: day you will be very grateful. 88 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 3: Your parents would be very proud of you. Eddie are 89 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: the happiest man on earth. Is in all good bookstores now, Eddie, 90 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: thank you so much for joining us. 91 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, Eddie. I hope we sell a 92 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: lot of books. 93 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: I am flying off the shelves. Thank you, Eddie. 94 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: Bye bye. 95 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: Join the and Amanda in the morning. 96 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: One at one point seven. 97 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 3: Tell you