1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: In very much breaking news this morning, we know that 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Professor Scott Bowman is gone as the Vice Chancellor of 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Charles Darwin University. The institution this morning announced that Professor 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Scott Bowman's going to conclude his tenure as the Vice 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Chancellor and president now. Professor Bowman and the university's Executive 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: Council have agreed that it is in CDU's best interests 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: for the Professor to step aside at this time. The 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: institution sees this decision will enable CDU to work through 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: its current challenges and for Phillip's responsibilities to students, staff 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: and the Northern Territory community. Now joining me in the 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: studio is the Chief Minister leafanocchiiro Good morning to. 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: Your chief, Good morning Katie in to your listeners. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Now, Chief Minister, I mean, do you support Professor Scott 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: Bowman standing down from CDU. 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: Well, I think this is a really embarrassing issue for 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: the territory as a whole and for c tou more broadly, 17 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: and so you know, ultimately he's made that decision and 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: we've seen a few moments at the top over the 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: last couple of days, but this is really impacting businesses families, 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 3: young people. It just beggars belief that this could happen. 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: And obviously the Education Minister, Joe Heersey acted very quickly 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: on finding out and has referred that to the Australian 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: Skills Quality Authority to make sure we understand what went 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: wrong so that it never happens again. 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: There really was no other choice here, was there. I 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: mean it's a massive bungle. Really he had to step aside. 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's a big decision to make, but ultimately 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: this is a big bungle and what we need is 29 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 3: certainty going forward. We can't have our premium educational institution 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: in the Northern Territory facing such an embarrassing mistakes like this, 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: and it's very damaging reputationally and also, as I said, 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: for all of the people involved. So what's very important 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: now is that CDU pick itself up, get to the 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: bottom of exactly what's happened, address that core issue, and 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: they're going to have to rebuild trust for the community 36 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: and that is a very difficult thing to do. 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: Originally it had been stated it was about one hundred 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: and thirty apprentices who'd been impacted. What's the number that 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: the institution gave to you. 40 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 3: Look, I'm not aware of the exact number, but what 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: I do know is over the last week or so, 42 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: that number keeps increasing, and I suspect the further we 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 3: dig the more the higher the number will be. Which 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: is which is again just feeds Intoto this idea of 45 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 3: how on earth could this possibly happens? 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: Graduating? 47 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: Well, they does need to be an absolute audit of this, 48 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 3: and that's why that Australian Skills Quality Authority need to 49 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: get in there and get to the bottom of it, 50 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: because not only do we need to fix the mistake 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: and address these hundreds of kids, we've then got to 52 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: create certainty again and explain to the community how that's 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: been fixed. Now CDU is funded by the territory government 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: or we don't have any control, but you know this 55 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: is it's too important for us to not get involved. 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: Well do you need to? I mean, given the fact 57 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: that the Northern Territory government actually contributes significant funding to 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: cd you what changes in governance, in reporting or oversight? 59 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: Is the government going to require from CDU to safeguard 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: training standards and really ensure that public funds are invested effectively? 61 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: That's right, It's about forty seven million dollars that territory 62 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: tax payers pour into CDU annually. Yeah, it's a lot 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: of money, and so we need to have that high 64 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: degree of confidence and certainty about how it's being spent 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 3: and what the quality of the product is. Now, we've 66 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: got a number of partnerships with CDU. They run programs 67 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: for the prisoners. For example, we're doing that work with 68 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: them over the Catherine campus to turn that into a 69 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: Catherine based prison work camp. But you know, the territory 70 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: has a stake in this, and we do need to 71 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: be looking at the governance arrangements and the you know, 72 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: the value proposition to the community. So I'm sure a 73 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: lot will come out of this, but our immediate priority 74 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: is making sure those kids are sorted out as soon 75 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: as possible. 76 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing I think first and foremost. 77 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: We need to make sure that those young people and 78 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: I guess we say young people, but there could be 79 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: any age doing their apprenticeships, that they are able to 80 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: finish their qualification or to have exactly you know, the 81 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: education that's required to be able to fulfill that qualification. 82 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: It blows my mind that that didn't happen. 83 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: And the qualification that they paid for. 84 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: I mean you think about the businesses right now who 85 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: have trades people who now are unqualified. Does that mean 86 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: they have to go back and check the quality of 87 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: the work that's taken place. I mean, it's just it 88 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: must just be a living nightmare for the people involved, 89 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 3: and we just can't have that, Katie, it's not acceptable. 90 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: Just a couple of quick ones on this. I mean, 91 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: how concerning is this do you think for the construction 92 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: industry as a whole? 93 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, hugely, because again, it undermines certainty in it undermines confidence. 94 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: And your listeners will be very familiar. 95 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: With me saying those two words because they're critically important 96 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: to growing the economy, and so confidence in an institution 97 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: like your trade center, like your university is paramount. We're 98 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: trying to say to people the territory has the capability 99 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: we can do these, and then something like this happens, 100 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: It just erodes what we've been working so hard to achieve. 101 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: You think there's any sort of potential delay for things 102 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: like you know, you've got the bill bonus, You've got 103 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: other projects in which I'm sure that there's plenty of 104 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: apprentices involved in. 105 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, hopefully not And As I said, there will 106 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: be different degrees of people who are impacted, and some 107 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: will be quicker to resolve than others. But what's the 108 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: most important is that we identify those people straight away, 109 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: make sure no one is it falls through the cracks 110 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: on this, Gather everyone up, get them the support they need, 111 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: Provide the support to the businesses and the families, and 112 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: move forward, and then that important piece about never again 113 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: has to happen. 114 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: Do you believe that CDU should get back to focusing 115 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: on core business rather than the massive international focus and 116 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: the opening of the international campuses. 117 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, the London campus they've let lost me at 118 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: that point, Katie, and I was very open about being 119 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 3: very confused. 120 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: They're obviously trying to make decisions. 121 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: Around revenue, and we know CDU the very strong online presence. 122 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: There are more there are more kids studying or more 123 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: people studying at CDU online than there are in person. 124 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: But look, it was questionable to me at the time. 125 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: It's questionable what. 126 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: Made you sort of what made them lose you at 127 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: that point? 128 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 3: Well, I just think you know you're talking about sitting 129 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: in London, the variety of universities available to you, let 130 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: alone Europe wide and then you know, you come across 131 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: the other side of the world to pick CD you 132 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: it just didn't seem logical to me. But I'm no 133 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 3: education expert, and you know I'm not going to pretend 134 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: to be either. 135 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: But it just it just didn't Initially, it just didn't 136 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: make sense. 137 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: Dirrect decisions like this are being made. Do you have 138 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: confidence in the executive of the CDU and indeed the board. 139 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it is run by a board, So the 140 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 3: board are the ones that make that decision. The people 141 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: on the board therefore, are very very important. And so 142 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: we need to be looking at all of these things 143 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: now to make sure that we've got we've got the 144 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: best possible people in the best possible places delivering the 145 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: right outcomes for territories and for our future. 146 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: All Right, we are going to there's a lot to 147 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: cover off on this morning, and we know the ppsos 148 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: are set to begin training at the Police College today. 149 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: What's the main purpose of this new stream of police. 150 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: It's a very exciting day. 151 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: So twenty four police Public Safety officers start the college today. 152 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: Fifteen of them will. 153 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: End up in Darwin and Palmerston when they graduate in 154 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: eighteen weeks time. 155 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: Which is great. 156 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: So what a PPSO is is everyone will be very 157 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: familiar with the public housing safety offices that we have, 158 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: and the transit safety officers and a range of frontline 159 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: auxiliaries in the region. We have palis who stand on 160 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: bottle shops for example. We've taken all three of these 161 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: streams and pushed them together into a new stream of 162 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: police who have the powers and the opportunity to get 163 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: ahead of crime before it happens. They are there to 164 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: deal with antisocial behavior. They are there to be public facing. 165 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: They're there to have the support of the police network 166 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: and be part of that policing system so that we 167 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: can have better responses. 168 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: And this is a model that has been done in. 169 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: A number of other urisdictions extremely effectively, and so we 170 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: are really excited once. I don't want to push it 171 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: up too much initially because it's a critical mass issue. 172 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: This is one that people won't feel the impact of 173 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: so profoundly until we have between one and two hundred 174 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: of them, so you know, a year or two time. 175 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: But once we have that critical mass, these will be 176 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: the police you see every day at events when you 177 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: call for public housing disputes. These will be the people 178 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: who come and it's going to be a fantastic piece 179 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: of reform. 180 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: Now, all the while, we know just last week, obviously 181 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: the crime statistics showed that there'd been a drop in crime. Well, 182 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: I want to focus on the Red Center comparing December 183 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four to December twenty twenty five. Now, that 184 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: is obviously positive, and residents agree that there does seem 185 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: to be less incidents, but the ones that are happening 186 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: seem far more violent. Sky News of course on Friday 187 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: reporting the bashing of a teenage girl. I mean, is 188 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: this the advice that you're receiving that it is getting 189 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: better or that there is more violent crimes? Like? What 190 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: are you being told at the moment? Because when vision 191 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: light that comes out, it sort of takes me back 192 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: to when we were calling for, you know, for there 193 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: to be a curfew. 194 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: Oh, it was the most disgusting I saw that video, Kadie. 195 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: It was horrific. And so as we know, any crime 196 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 3: is one crime too many. But the data is very 197 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 3: very clear that things are going down. I spent you know, 198 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: I was in Alice Springs last week Monday through Wednesday, 199 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: and the people are noticing it. On the ground and 200 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: we've sorry, we've decreased the number of victims by ten 201 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: point two percent territory wide, So that's about two thy 202 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: seven hundred people who weren't victimized last year compared to 203 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: the year before under labor And just so people know, 204 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: sixteen hundred of those people from Alice Springs. 205 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: So there's there is a profound difference. 206 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: Do we need to do more, yes, absolutely, And some 207 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: of the feuding we're seeing at the moment, you know, 208 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: popping up right across the territory, not just in Alice, 209 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: and I don't want to just target Alice. They have 210 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: come so far, we've got ten percent increase in visitation 211 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: already this year's scheduled, So let's not demonize a beautiful 212 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: place that's doing really well. But territory wide, we've seen 213 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: things popping up around payback, family feuding, and that's really 214 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: unfortunate and it detracts from the bigger goal of making 215 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: the week. 216 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: So it still makes things look terrible if you are 217 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: from the outside looking in, going, oh, should I travel 218 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: to Alice Springs, And then if you see, you know, 219 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: situations where there's people sort of you know, running down 220 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,119 Speaker 1: the street with the Mashetti and you know the explanation 221 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: of that family feuding. It does annoy people because it 222 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: feels like an excuse. 223 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 3: It annoys me too, Katie. It's ridiculous. And our police 224 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 3: do an amazing job. The community largely understands what's going on, 225 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: but that doesn't make it right, it doesn't make it acceptable, 226 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 3: and again it detracts from all of the hard work 227 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: that's going on, all of the great progress that has 228 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: been made. And it's disappointing because you know what, Alice 229 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: Springs had an excellent summer by any account, and we've 230 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: just got to keep the pressure on and stay the course, 231 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: all right. 232 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: Chief Minister, A few quick ones Alice Springs. Today they're 233 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: preparing for further flash flooding. Flooding. What are you being 234 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: told of the situation there in aalys. 235 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are. So things are okay at the moment. 236 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: The heaviest rain will come later today if it happens. 237 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 3: The Todd is flowing, the causeways are closed. We've got 238 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: a very big section at Wycliffe Well at the Stuart 239 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 3: Highway that is underwater, but all water is receding. 240 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: Murray downs. 241 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: We've had quite a few houses with ankle deep water 242 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: and our rapid Assessment team is ready to head out 243 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: there and do the assessments we need, YEP to make 244 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: sure everything is safe. So the emergency response and teams 245 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 3: are doing really well. I just urge everyone please, you 246 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: know there can be a lot of misinformation on social media. 247 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: Your true sources of information are secure and tea and 248 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: if you are hitting the roads, go. 249 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: To the NPT Roads Report. Very important. 250 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: We will speak more about that throughout this morning. I 251 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: understand we're going to be catching up with the crew 252 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: down there in Alice Springs to get a bit of 253 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: an update. Now, look, we also know that the residents 254 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: in the daily well they're heading home. That's good news. 255 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: But then some other good news that's come out this morning, 256 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: sensible news. I think there's owing to be an embedded 257 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: meteorologist appointed within the Northern Territory Fire and Emergency Services. 258 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: Why yeah, this. 259 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: Is really great. 260 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: So we've got Billy Lynch will be coming over to 261 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 3: emergency Services from the Bureau as part of a trial. 262 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: We did dollar for dollar match funding with the federal 263 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: government on this so that we can embed that capability. 264 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: It really should provide faster response times, better understanding preparedness 265 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: and so it's an exciting project. We're looking forward to it. Obviously, 266 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 3: Billy is a very well known and much love meteorologists, 267 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: a local and so we think that partnership is going 268 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: to pay payoff in spades because you know, it just 269 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: gives us that immediate intelligence and it's kind of what 270 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: happens when we stand up our Emergency Operations Center. 271 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: The Bureau embed themselves in it. So this will be 272 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: like an impermanent, you know. 273 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: EOC type setup for us, and we're looking forward to it. 274 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: Look, it does seem like a good announcement, as I said, 275 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: a practical thing. Yeah. Now look before I let you go. 276 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: This week the new administrator is set to be sworn 277 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: in and it's being reported today by the Northern Territory 278 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: News that are community meeting opposing the appointment of David 279 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: Connolly's being organized on the lawns of Parliament to coincide 280 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: with his scheduled swearing in ceremony at Government House on 281 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: Friday morning. Now, the organizers of the protest are currently unclear, 282 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: the papers saying, but there were flyers at multiple booths, 283 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: apparently at the Sunday Markets in Nightcliff yesterday I mean, 284 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: are you concerned that there is still a number of 285 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Territorians opposed to the appointment of the new administrator, given 286 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: that this is a role that really is meant to 287 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: unite the Northern territory. 288 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: Now, what I'm concerned about, Katie, is the opposition leader 289 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: Slina you Boat, Labor, the Greens, the Independent member for 290 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: Johnston's blind pursuit of politics and their willingness to tear 291 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: people down at any cost to score a cheap political 292 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: pointer Home. 293 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: There are people that are opposed. 294 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: Because Labor, the Greens and the Independent have mobilized something 295 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: to make it a race issue. 296 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: This is really disrespectful. 297 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: Don't you think that his posts made it a race issue? 298 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: I mean some of his posts, and I just really 299 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 3: wish that the media would keep printing it. But I mean, okay, 300 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: he had he called the Prime Minister a buffhead. Probably 301 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: half your listeners would agree with that, Katie. 302 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what about the ones where he talked about 303 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: you know, women, domestic violence, where he spoke about you know, 304 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: certain welfare comments, you know. And I don't have the 305 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: posts in front of me. I've not I've not come 306 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: to posts. 307 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: I have because some of them are ridiculous. 308 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: I mean, in a relation to welcome to Untrees, he says, 309 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 3: welcome to my house. 310 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: That'll be three thousand dollars thanks. I think. 311 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, the pursuit 312 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: of purity is nonsensical to you. Does it mean that 313 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: no one can ever have done something in their in 314 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 3: their private life. I mean, it's just it's an absolute nonsense. 315 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: You know, he was not the administrator at the time. 316 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: He is the administrator now and people should have some respect. 317 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: Now if we just rewind a little bit when Hugh 318 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: Hegy got made administrator. Now, I would never have picked 319 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: Hugh Hagy to be the administrator, but Michael Gunner did. 320 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: I respected Michael Gunner and his government's right to do 321 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: that because if you want to pick the administrator, you 322 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: have to work hard and get into government. There would 323 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: have been thousands of Territorians who were anti the COVID response, 324 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: who just wanted to put this behind us, and it 325 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: harked back to just keeping that COVID narrative going, which 326 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: Michael Gunner used in Weaponized to win in twenty twenty. 327 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: Right, let's face it. 328 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: And so you know, then we had mister Hagey come 329 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: and do an ABC vote compass openly put that he 330 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: votes labor. During the election, I got hounded by the 331 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: media to provide comment on that, and I didn't because 332 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: I have respect for the role. I have respect for 333 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: the government's right to choose, and I have respect for 334 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: the position. I stood at that ceremony and I gave 335 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: a lovely speech about mister Hagy, and we worked really 336 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: well together, and I wish him well for the future. 337 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: But to pretend like administers straight as a unanimously loved 338 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: I mean, Katie, I got abused at Rapid Creek Markets 339 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: by a labor volunteer, an older gentleman in a labor 340 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: shirt about this, And I just think the hypocrisy of 341 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: the standards. 342 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: Of behavior are a bit cute. 343 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: Because I'm a CLP member, or because we're CLP, you know, look, 344 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: we're not good enough. But if your labor are green 345 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: or and independent, you can do and say whatever you 346 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: want about anyone. 347 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: There definitely will be people with different views, right, But 348 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: the situation that you've got now is that there are 349 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are offended by those posts 350 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: that he'd made. And you know this is meant to 351 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: be a role that really does bring people together. So 352 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: I just explain get over that. 353 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: Well, I think you get over it when Labour stopped 354 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: playing the man not the ball. This is a total 355 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: vacuum of policy. 356 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: It's not a slaver people. 357 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: First time, Katie. 358 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: This is if everyone tracks back, what does what does 359 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: labor get on your show and I. 360 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: Talking about that's the point that you're saying. I get 361 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: people that you're making in relation to Hugh Hei. I 362 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: understand the point that you're making there. We definitely had 363 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: people contact us going I'm not sure about this appointment, 364 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: but you have now got well, you're gonna have people 365 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: who are protesting this because of the political motivation. There 366 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: is a by election voting. Start concerned that there are 367 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: some Aboriginal people within the community at the moment who 368 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: really feel as though this person is a divisive that's 369 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: not what we're talking about though. It is, but. 370 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: It's not and there will be people, no matter who 371 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 3: you pick, who think they would have. 372 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: Been better for them. 373 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm not concerned. 374 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: I'm not concerned about this at all. 375 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: My absolute concern is the standard of debate we're having 376 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: as a democracy. 377 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: It's never okay that we need to get to the 378 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: point where an administrator isn't appointed as a political appointment. 379 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 3: It's not a political how well it is, it's a 380 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: political appointment. 381 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 2: Was he a member of the Seal? 382 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. You tell me, no, this is just 383 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: but non political parties choose people who they think, I guess, 384 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: align with their views. 385 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 3: No, it's about choosing someone you think that represents the 386 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: best interests of the territory going forward. 387 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: And so looking at all of those posts, going back 388 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: through all those posts, you are not concerned that he's 389 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: potentially not going to represent all territories. 390 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: He absolutely will. 391 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: And I think if you can be that offended about 392 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 3: someone challenging why you spend three hundred or three thousand 393 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: dollars from Welcome to country, I mean, this has just been. 394 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: Blown just on that. I did get asked last week. 395 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: Have the welcome to countries at state funerals been scrapped? 396 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 2: No, state funerals are entirely a matter for the family. 397 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's not doesn't come down to a protocol thing. 398 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: Because I did get that following on from Ted Eagan's 399 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: funeral last week, and this is the thing, Oh my gosh, 400 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: someone didn't do a welcome to country. 401 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: At a state funeral, all of a sudden someone's doesn't. 402 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: It's not. 403 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: Debate we're having as a community where all of a sudden, 404 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: the political correct police come out and you know, the 405 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 3: cancel culture is so toxic, Katie. People can make mistakes, 406 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 3: people can have personal views. Not everyone has to agree, 407 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: and I just despise. I just find it so hypocritical 408 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: that if your Labor or the Greens or the independent 409 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: Green member in Johnston, that you can be holier than thou, 410 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 3: you can be above everything else, you can never have 411 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: made a mistake, and yet everyone else is condemned for 412 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 3: their actions. This is just a level of debate that 413 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 3: is low, Katie, and it's disgusting. I cannot believe that 414 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: the opposition leader is degrading herself to this level. Quite frankly, 415 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: we tear people down who don't have a voice. It's 416 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: one thing for Arjie Barjie in parliament, Katie, but it's 417 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: another thing to stand there and use the power of 418 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: your voice just tear down people who don't have a writer. 419 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: Well, look we've got her on tomorrow. We'll see what 420 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: she's got to say about that. We are going to 421 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: have to leave it there. We've got well the person 422 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: who's going to be acting in the vice chancellor job 423 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: of Charles Starwin University. I bet you will have fired 424 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: people up this morning, Chief Minister, thank you very much 425 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: for your time. Always appreciate it. 426 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: Everyone, thanks, thank you.