WEBVTT - FRIDAY DRINKS: Valuing Our Frontline Workers

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr

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<v Speaker 1>the Order Kerni Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before

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<v Speaker 1>we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land

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<v Speaker 1>of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country,

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming through.

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<v Speaker 1>As this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing and

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<v Speaker 1>the storytelling of you to make a difference for today

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<v Speaker 1>and lasting impact for tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's on the Money, She's on the Money.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to She's on Money, the podcast for

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<v Speaker 2>millennials who want financial freedom. Today is Friday My Loves,

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<v Speaker 2>which means it is time to sit back with the

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<v Speaker 2>girls and a bev in hand so we can unpack

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<v Speaker 2>our favorite moments of the week. And of course we

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<v Speaker 2>are also going to be celebrating you how incredible She's

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<v Speaker 2>on the Money community. As always, we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be sharing our favorite money wins. We're going to discuss

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<v Speaker 2>what's making news in the finance world, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be helping to answer a very juicy money question,

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<v Speaker 2>which is all about the indexation rate of our help

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<v Speaker 2>debt this week. But first it is time to recap

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<v Speaker 2>the week it was miss Jess Grici, what happened to

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<v Speaker 2>money Diaries?

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<v Speaker 4>Monday's episode went out to all of our below Deck fans,

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<v Speaker 4>like Victoria Divino.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the biggest below Deck fan.

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<v Speaker 4>We spoke to a girl who moved to France to

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<v Speaker 4>be a yochti for Amazing and she was telling us

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<v Speaker 4>all about what the experience was like living on a

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<v Speaker 4>super yoch working for the richest of the rich, giving

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<v Speaker 4>us little insight into what that was like. Turns out,

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<v Speaker 4>when you own a superyocht, expectations are high. Yeah, as

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<v Speaker 4>you would kind of imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're serving billionaires. It was staled. We asked

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<v Speaker 2>her so many perfect questions as well, and like did

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<v Speaker 2>she get along with the family. He's still friends with

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<v Speaker 2>a family, And when you try and marry their son.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't ask her that, but I should have.

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<v Speaker 4>Like she should see, yeah, one hundred percent, that's ubillia

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<v Speaker 4>to marry into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Marry into it. That is the crux of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>The outcome of how to Create Financial Freedom is actually

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<v Speaker 2>just marrying rich. Absolutely, man, we think of that? Why

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<v Speaker 2>has she done so many? Yeah? Exactly, man, is a

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<v Speaker 2>financial plan all of that. It's genius. It's genius. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's roll it on, g King, No more marrying rich.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened on Wednesday? Because we are actually trying to

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<v Speaker 2>educate you to not rely on.

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<v Speaker 5>That exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>So on Wednesday, ladies, we spoke about the five finance

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<v Speaker 3>books that will change your life.

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<v Speaker 2>So we took this one of my favorite things ever

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<v Speaker 2>to record, really only because I love talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>books I read, and I feel like you gave me

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect platform.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there were a lot of good ones in there,

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<v Speaker 3>but what kind of what I got out of it

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<v Speaker 3>was that all of these books, apart from one, were

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<v Speaker 3>about fifty to like seventy years old, and that really

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<v Speaker 3>told us that the finance essentials kind of don't change,

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<v Speaker 3>like the rules are the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wish I could pretend that I had

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<v Speaker 2>coined that compound interest. Can you imagine? It could be

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<v Speaker 2>called Victoria interest perfect and it's like the best kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Sadly it is not.

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<v Speaker 5>True divine interests.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I want to do a PhD one day,

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<v Speaker 2>Like My goal is to one day study a PhD

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<v Speaker 2>so I can become a doctor. So my name would

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<v Speaker 2>be doctor Divine. And I just think that flows really nicely.

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<v Speaker 2>But to make it easier, if there's any universities out

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<v Speaker 2>there that want to give me one of those ornorary

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<v Speaker 2>doctorates that they sometimes hand out to people who do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, which I haven't done, I'll take one for

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<v Speaker 2>the team. Perfect, I'll take one for the team because

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to call myself doctor Divine. Imagine getting

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<v Speaker 2>to get on a play dem oh no, don't downplay

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<v Speaker 2>it like that. Imagine getting to get on a plane

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, no, I am a doctor on board,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll be like, oh, what kind I'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>just honorary. I can't help you if anyone's in trust

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<v Speaker 2>you with your finance. Yeah, it can help you out

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<v Speaker 2>with your finances. That's all I've got. Speaking of doctors,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what doctors have sometimes budget direct money wins.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes doctors have money wins. And that is how we

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<v Speaker 2>are going to segue today into our money win segment.

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia King, what have you got this week?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it, ladies. Okay, So the first win from

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<v Speaker 3>today comes from Christie.

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<v Speaker 5>Money win.

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<v Speaker 3>I nearly fell over when I saw my gas bill

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<v Speaker 3>this month. Can relate lucky, she's the doctor. No, well

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<v Speaker 3>that'll come. Yes, So I know gas prices have increased,

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<v Speaker 3>but my bill was up five hundred percent on last month.

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<v Speaker 2>Five hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of percent, surely not. I called my provider,

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<v Speaker 3>Globird in Brackets, who confirmed that the meter read hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>been conducted by the gas wholesaler this month, and the

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<v Speaker 3>bill was just based on an estimation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I estimated, yes, five more, Jess, because I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't read your meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>A joke.

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<v Speaker 3>They immediately canceled the bill. They can to supply a

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<v Speaker 3>photo of the meter, and then reissued her bill for

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<v Speaker 3>the actual read. Super helpful customer service said they were great,

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<v Speaker 3>and she got her bill back on budget.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm with glober and I'm waiting for my gas bill.

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<v Speaker 2>So my gas Yeah, that's a lot. That's actually a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Good reminder though, that that is very normal at the moment,

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<v Speaker 5>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like that estimation. That just feels a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit savage. What is the next money win?

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<v Speaker 1>Gie?

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<v Speaker 5>The next win?

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<v Speaker 3>It comes from Emily money win. I asked my boss

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<v Speaker 3>for a raise to reflect my experience and value to

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<v Speaker 3>the business approaching my one year work adversary, and he

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<v Speaker 3>agreed and is going to discuss it with the executive director.

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<v Speaker 3>So I should hopefully be earning a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>in a few days. I would never have had the

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<v Speaker 3>courage or knowledge to know I could even do this

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<v Speaker 3>without this podcast. So thank you for empowering me to

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<v Speaker 3>ask for what I deserve. Always ask for what you deserve.

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<v Speaker 3>You are doing the work, get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love it so much. It makes

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<v Speaker 2>my heart so full.

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<v Speaker 3>The next win comes from Angie, biggest money win of

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<v Speaker 3>my life. I submitted my last assessment for my degree

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<v Speaker 3>on the weekend. Congratulations Angie, and I've been offered a

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<v Speaker 3>new role in line with my new qualification. That means

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<v Speaker 3>an extra eleven dollars an hour. That's fanatic lot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to add up real quick.

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<v Speaker 5>Qick mass.

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<v Speaker 3>That's eighty eight dollars a day, times up by Fridays.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm done four hundred and.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see your faced jo I was on a

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<v Speaker 2>roll at the start. You were really confident, but then

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<v Speaker 2>you looked at me. You looked at me, and you

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<v Speaker 2>were like save me. And I was like, ah, not today, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>not today. You were four four hundred and.

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<v Speaker 5>Four forty you are, so let's times up by fifty two?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that twenty two eight eighty dollars before?

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? Nobody asked you to get involved, miss

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<v Speaker 2>h what's the next money?

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<v Speaker 3>The medal of the story is well done, aie. The

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<v Speaker 3>next money win comes from Maddie. I guess this could

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<v Speaker 3>be a win or a loss, depending on how you

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<v Speaker 3>look at it, little sweaty face. I finance for a

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<v Speaker 3>home loan, got approved the last couple of years to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to buy my first home at twenty six,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm so proud of myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So money, that's a big money win, but also a

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<v Speaker 2>money loss. Absolutely, it's financial freedom, my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's good debt baby. The next wind comes from

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<v Speaker 3>a lease. I accidentally let seventy five dollars of Country

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<v Speaker 3>Road rewards vouchers lapse. I called them and are annoying

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<v Speaker 3>nicely if they would reinstate them. The lady was so

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<v Speaker 3>nice she put them back on my account and gave

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<v Speaker 3>me an extra month in case I forgot again. If

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<v Speaker 3>you don't ask you get a queen's everything to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so much money as well, Like you could get

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<v Speaker 2>like a whole top, or like a pair of pants

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<v Speaker 2>or something for that. Absolutely a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 5>We love it. The next win comes from Meg.

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<v Speaker 3>I got my private health cover renewed today. Now instead

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<v Speaker 3>of thirteen hundred dollars a year, I'm only paying three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and eighty one dollars a year. She just got

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<v Speaker 3>rid of all the things she didn't need us.

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<v Speaker 2>She's doing the work for all of us. Say we

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<v Speaker 2>should do that, we don't do it exactly right, smart

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<v Speaker 2>baby like Meg. Next week it comes from Rose money win.

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<v Speaker 2>I booked tickets to go to Melbourne for a family

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<v Speaker 2>holiday to celebrate my dad's at seventieth. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>massive moment for me as we booked without own savings

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<v Speaker 2>and not with a credit card.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't remember the last time we did that. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>so so happy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually so sweet.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, sorry about the weather down here.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, roast ferocious.

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<v Speaker 3>The final win of today, Ladies comes from Beck. I

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<v Speaker 3>have been working my butt off saving for a house deposit,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hit the twenty thousand dollar mark this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on track to have thirty thousand dollars by the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the year. And I'm so very proud of myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh we're proud of it too. How good. What a

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<v Speaker 2>good place to leave at Georgia King Just so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately that is all we have time for when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to money wins. It has been so good celebrating

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<v Speaker 2>some of your budget direct money wins for reward winning

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<v Speaker 2>insurance search budget Direct, Budget Direct Insurance Solved. Now let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to a breaks. I want to talk about Hex

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<v Speaker 2>later and Jess, you've also found a juicy segment to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that really benefits our frontline healthcare workers. It

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<v Speaker 2>sure does.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we are back and this week we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be talking about what are we talking about, Jess,

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<v Speaker 2>because you haven't shared it with anybody here on the pod,

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<v Speaker 2>just you. You've just been hoarding this.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to hold the information, but I know, just kidding,

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<v Speaker 4>no gatekeeping here. There's going to be a one off

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<v Speaker 4>payment of three thousand dollars for health workers.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that, So what are you gatekeeping? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 4>We're sharing that information right now, Okay, all right, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's super nice because as we have said

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<v Speaker 4>on this podcast before our frontline workers across multiple industries

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<v Speaker 4>over the course of COVID quite literally put their bodies

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<v Speaker 4>on the line, like they are pulling quadruple shifts, they

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<v Speaker 4>are working long hours, they're dealing with cranky people. They

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<v Speaker 4>were at a high, high, high risk of exposure to COVID,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think it's really lovely that that we're doing

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<v Speaker 4>something to acknowledge that. So it's a one off payment

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<v Speaker 4>of three thousand dollars and the new South Wales Premier

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<v Speaker 4>Dominic Perrete said that it's a gesture of appreciation for

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<v Speaker 4>all of our health workers for the sacrifices and the

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<v Speaker 4>efforts that they have made since the pandemic began, which

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<v Speaker 4>really important. Are there other industries I would like to

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<v Speaker 4>see this roll out across, Yes, yes, because it's everywhere

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<v Speaker 4>other services industries that had just as hard of a

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<v Speaker 4>slog I think. But I want to talk to v

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<v Speaker 4>because I mean, on face Valu you go, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>three grand I know what I could do with three grand?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I definitely know. I absolutely know it is not productive.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're not sharing it on the podcast because that

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<v Speaker 2>would make me look silly.

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<v Speaker 5>So we've eat three thousand dollars lots of cash.

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<v Speaker 2>Holder.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing, but it's a huge amount to receive all

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<v Speaker 3>at once. What would your advice be, your non specific

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<v Speaker 3>general advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we giving advice to the state premiers or are

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<v Speaker 2>we giving advice to the to the frontline work workers

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<v Speaker 2>receiving this. Then I come back to that first point.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give the former advice later or ladder that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just confusing everybody in. Else, I would just make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that when it comes in, you are doing something really

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<v Speaker 2>constructive with it. Whether it is paying off debt fantastic,

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<v Speaker 2>it is putting it away for a rainy day. If

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have an emergency fund, bam, you're now in

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<v Speaker 2>the position of control. I just think we really need

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<v Speaker 2>to be making the most of these lumps some payments

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<v Speaker 2>in saying that, I think this is fantastic and we

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<v Speaker 2>are so excited about it. But the question that I

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<v Speaker 2>would raise is this a band aid solution to a

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<v Speaker 2>more long term solution. We already know that our frontline

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<v Speaker 2>healthcare workers are I would argue, underpaid for what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only are they putting their lives at risk, but

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<v Speaker 2>they literally put their families at risk. Every day. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>think about COVID. The amount of nurses that I knew

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<v Speaker 2>that were going to work that were sneaking in the

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<v Speaker 2>back door so that they could strip out of their

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<v Speaker 2>COVID gear and into a spare bedroom, not seeing their

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<v Speaker 2>families so they could go and look after the community

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<v Speaker 2>instead of their own families was insane. And then that's

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<v Speaker 2>worth three grant. Like, I don't know, it's not not

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<v Speaker 2>worth it. It's absolutely a step in the right direction,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think we need to be looking at increasing

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<v Speaker 2>their pay significantly, because if we look at it across

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<v Speaker 2>the board, like anything less than a five point one

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<v Speaker 2>percent pay increase this year for frontline healthcare workers is

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<v Speaker 2>not putting them in line with inflation.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting you say that, because they actually in line with

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<v Speaker 4>this grant that they're giving out. Also announced they had

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<v Speaker 4>agreed to lift the cap on wages to three percent

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<v Speaker 4>this year, increasing to a possible three point five next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think it's really important that they're doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>But if we then look at inflation, they're basically making

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<v Speaker 2>less money than they were last year based on the

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<v Speaker 2>costs of goods and services. Yeah, So I just I

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<v Speaker 2>feel really pressed. You could say when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>frontline healthcare workers, because I just don't think you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are getting the rap that you deserve, like you are

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<v Speaker 2>so special. Like imagine waking up every day and going,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go put other people in a better position.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna put myself at risk to look after you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm putting my mental health, my physical health, my everything

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<v Speaker 2>to the sidelines so I can look after people who

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<v Speaker 2>are arguably coming into emergency. Like look at some of

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<v Speaker 2>my girlfriends who are emergency nurses. They get yelled at.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them a couple of weeks ago, got spat on.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them, has been literally abused. I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>doctor friend who's been punched in the face, Like what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell? And you guys are like, oh, here's three grand.

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<v Speaker 2>How about we actually put your wages in line with

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<v Speaker 2>inflation to make sure that you guys, who are the

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<v Speaker 2>pillars of our society arg you're like, where were we

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<v Speaker 2>when COVID happened? Who was carrying the entire country? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Healthcare workers, why aren't they being put in better situations?

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<v Speaker 2>I get real pressed about this as well. People were

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<v Speaker 2>talking on TikTok about how policemen get a fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>discount at McDonald's. Not why I don't our frontline healthcare

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<v Speaker 2>workers get fifty percent. Nope, I would urge all McDonald's

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<v Speaker 2>employees to just hit that little like free time they

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<v Speaker 2>have a nurse or a doctor or somebody who's just

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<v Speaker 2>wearing scrubs come through the drive through, because Lord knows

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<v Speaker 2>they need that caffeine absolutefully. It should be free.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably also worth noting the percentage of women that

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<v Speaker 3>are nurses. I've just put up a stat and it's

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<v Speaker 3>almost ninety percent.

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<v Speaker 2>So are we surprised, No, we're not surprised. I just

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to rally for the people who in

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<v Speaker 2>our community are doing good and being good and being

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<v Speaker 2>those pillars of society because you do so much good

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<v Speaker 2>work and you work so hard for little to no recognition.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's heartbreaking seeing you know, even in our community,

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<v Speaker 2>because Jess, you're on DMS, I slide into DMS a

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<v Speaker 2>fair bit, and we talk to our community so often,

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<v Speaker 2>and so many of you are really questioning your job

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<v Speaker 2>and questioning whether you want to continue being a nurse

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<v Speaker 2>or continue being a doctor, because it's actually just so taxing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a couple of my girlfriends are thinking about getting

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<v Speaker 2>out of it because they just can't keep up, Like

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<v Speaker 2>they're mentally and physically burnt out because all they do

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<v Speaker 2>is double shifts, and it's like, why are we not

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<v Speaker 2>treating these people so well? But then I get on

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<v Speaker 2>LinkedIn and we look at corporate and they're like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my gosh, So imagine if we went down to a

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<v Speaker 2>four day work week and these corporate who has are

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<v Speaker 2>jumping up and down pretending like they're so hard done by,

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel so entirely privileged and entitled, right because

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<v Speaker 2>I we're not corporate, are we? Just what would we

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<v Speaker 2>call us? We like a podcasting business, so a little bit, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we medium es central. No, it's absolutely not essential, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's also so flexible, and we have that flexibility where

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was sick the other week, so you

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<v Speaker 2>guys carried it for me and made sure it happened

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<v Speaker 2>and I was not stressed, Whereas a nurse calls in

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<v Speaker 2>sick and they're like, you better get a sick certificate

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<v Speaker 2>because we're not sure if we believe you. Like what,

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<v Speaker 2>that's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just have a lot to say about this

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<v Speaker 4>topic and don't forget there is a state election coming.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what that means. People want your votes, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know what politicians exploit us.

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<v Speaker 5>Why they're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So if there's something.

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<v Speaker 4>That you do really want to advocate change for, if anything,

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<v Speaker 4>now is the time to be getting a little bit vocal.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think if enough people kind of said, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>let's celebrate those people who really copped it on the

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<v Speaker 4>chin during lockdown while the rest of us got to

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<v Speaker 4>work from home and give them something as a thank you,

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<v Speaker 4>because I really do think that they deserve.

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<v Speaker 2>It one hundred percent. The other thing I wanted to say,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just like based on stats, you said, what

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<v Speaker 2>if one in ten people like, be the one in ten?

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you're the one in ten and you're listening

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<v Speaker 2>to this podcast and that actually converts, that's more than

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand letters that will go out incredible, Like

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<v Speaker 2>what can you imagine? I just I also think that

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<v Speaker 2>this segment has been really important. I hope for frontline

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<v Speaker 2>workers to I guess here as well, that people who

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<v Speaker 2>aren't in politics really appreciate what you're doing. Our community

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<v Speaker 2>is so in love with you guys, and we so

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate the time and energy and effort that you put

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<v Speaker 2>into your jobs, because it takes a very special person

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<v Speaker 2>to always put others first. Yeah, and that sounds, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>very fluffy, But I can't do it. I mean I try,

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<v Speaker 2>but I definitely could not put in as much time,

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<v Speaker 2>energy and effort as a nurse or a doctor or

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<v Speaker 2>anyone working in that industry.

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<v Speaker 4>Cam No, And that goes out to everybody who kind

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<v Speaker 4>of kept plugging along during lockdown. And again, if you

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<v Speaker 4>do want to see change in that space, and if

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<v Speaker 4>you do want to see our services industries recognized in

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<v Speaker 4>the way that they deserve, get on the phone, get

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<v Speaker 4>on the emails, do a little type you type were

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<v Speaker 4>also quick these days, you could fire it off in

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<v Speaker 4>less than five minutes and potentially make real change.

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<v Speaker 3>Already, guys, on that note, I think it is time

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<v Speaker 3>for a little money dilemma hit plagy.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi there have you.

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<v Speaker 3>Got up money to Lemma? You just can't solve the

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<v Speaker 3>Sheese on the Money team is here to help. Every week,

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<v Speaker 3>we tackle your dilemmas, both big and small, to answer

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<v Speaker 3>let's take a listen to today's money dilemma.

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<v Speaker 6>How can we best manage the new help loan three

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<v Speaker 6>point nine percent indexation rate? Because it used to be

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<v Speaker 6>much lower and it was always told sorry about it

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<v Speaker 6>as it was the safest point to have, and now

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<v Speaker 6>having other debts and credits as well, how is it

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<v Speaker 6>best to be paid? Should we up our payments on

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<v Speaker 6>it or make a big repayment? What should we do?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is a really good question because I think

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<v Speaker 2>so many people are super stressed about what this will

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<v Speaker 2>mean for their cash flow. And to summarize it, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't actually mean anything for your cash flow. Just because

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<v Speaker 2>the interest rate or the index sction rate has increased

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that your repayment amounts are going to change

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<v Speaker 2>it all. In fact, the repayment amount for twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two to twenty twenty three are exactly the same as

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<v Speaker 2>what they were stipulated in the last two years, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you're not going to be lumped with more cash

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<v Speaker 2>repayments that need to come out of your pocket or

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<v Speaker 2>are going to come out of your paycheck. But what

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<v Speaker 2>it will mean is it might take a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>longer to pay it off. So obviously we don't love debt,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely not. It's one of those things that can make

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<v Speaker 2>us feel really sick. But my stake or what are

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<v Speaker 2>we going to call it, stake or position or however

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<v Speaker 2>we want to articulate it on Help has not changed.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so excited still that we get to live

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<v Speaker 2>in a country where we have access to a loan

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<v Speaker 2>scheme that puts us in a position where we can

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<v Speaker 2>pay for our university educations and only have indexation applied.

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<v Speaker 2>In saying that indexation this year was sitting at that

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<v Speaker 2>three point one percent. Indexation is higher, but because of

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<v Speaker 2>the way help actually calculates indexation, the entire indexation amount

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<v Speaker 2>does not get passed on to us. It gets averaged

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<v Speaker 2>out over two years, so it's a little bit smaller.

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<v Speaker 2>In saying that if you're worried about your cash flow,

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<v Speaker 2>or you are worried about, you know, paying this debt off,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be having a look at it just so

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<v Speaker 2>that you can get your head straight, just so you

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<v Speaker 2>can go does this work for me or not? What

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<v Speaker 2>are my other financial goals? Because HEX still has the

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<v Speaker 2>same criteria, right, it's still an interest free loan. Technically,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously indexation is applied, there's still no time limit on

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<v Speaker 2>that debt to be paid off, and if you earn

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<v Speaker 2>under forty seven thousand and fourteen dollars you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to pay it back. So there's no other loan like

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<v Speaker 2>that where you know, if you've got a mortgage, g

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<v Speaker 2>if you earn under forty seven grand, you still have

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<v Speaker 2>to pay it. Yes, if you get a personal loan,

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<v Speaker 2>you're still going to have to pay it regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>what your income is. There's no concessions on oh, g

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<v Speaker 2>you just lost your job. Okay, sorry, Jess, don't worry

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<v Speaker 2>about paying it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite flexible. And I think that the thing I

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<v Speaker 2>like about that is the only thing it impacts when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to buying property is your serviceability. And when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at serviceability, it's kind of like a grocery bill, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So they'd sit down and be like, gee, what are

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<v Speaker 2>your expenses?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool, So your expenses are one hundred dollars a

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<v Speaker 2>week on groceries, one hundred on HEX. No problems. They

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 2>take that into consideration. They're not looking at how much

0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.480
<v Speaker 2>HEX debt you have. They're actually only looking at the

0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 2>portion that you have to pay back and the impact

0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.320
<v Speaker 2>on your cash flow there. So I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>as overwhelming as people seem to think it is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>also much lower than probably any type of consumer debt

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<v Speaker 2>most people have, and at the moment, if you compare

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<v Speaker 2>it to property, I would argue that having an asset

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<v Speaker 2>obviously not advice, but I would argue having an asset

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<v Speaker 2>is probably going to be a little bit more powerful

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<v Speaker 2>than prioritizing your debt repayments to help in saying that

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to have to look at that and go,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, is this going to work for me? Is

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<v Speaker 2>this not going to work for me? Do I just

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<v Speaker 2>really want to get rid of it? Like each to

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<v Speaker 2>their own, in saying that, if I look at the

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<v Speaker 2>way I have managed it, I haven't paid off any

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<v Speaker 2>extra help debt and I don't have any intention to

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<v Speaker 2>because I just want to. At these point in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve and I are getting married later this year, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be really expensive and it's already driving

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<v Speaker 2>me bonkers. We have a renovation that we're currently paying for,

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<v Speaker 2>which guys, is so much more expensive than I anticipated, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh. And then on top of that, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a mortgage that we're trying to get to a

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<v Speaker 2>level where we're both really comfortable, and at the moment

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like a little bit of a stretch,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's you know, we're getting there, we're plodding along,

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<v Speaker 2>We're very lucky, it's all working out well. But if

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<v Speaker 2>I added in help repayments to that, it actually doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>get me closer to my long term financial goals than

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<v Speaker 2>if I was paying that off, Whereas if I look

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<v Speaker 2>at my short term and my long term financial goals,

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<v Speaker 2>me putting money into my mortgage, putting money into my

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<v Speaker 2>investments is what's working for me personally at this point

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<v Speaker 2>in time. And I wouldn't be surprised if you turn

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<v Speaker 2>around and go, oh, actually, vye oh that makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>for me. So I think it's about just looking at, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the bigger picture, because right now what I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 2>is that everyone's going, oh my god, indexation is so

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<v Speaker 2>much higher, Like, how does this impact me? Am I

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<v Speaker 2>going to be out more cash?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to be out more cash. Am I

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to pay it off quicker? No, it's

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<v Speaker 2>still the same amount of time. It might just take

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit longer. In that case, is it going

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<v Speaker 2>to stop you from achieving financial goals? No, but it

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<v Speaker 2>could stop you from achieving financial goals if you prioritize

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<v Speaker 2>something that's not in line with your immediate goals, if

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<v Speaker 2>that makes sense. Like example here miss Jessica Ricci, if

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<v Speaker 2>she had a significant help debt and then decided to

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<v Speaker 2>use her home savings or the money that you've saved

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<v Speaker 2>to pay that off instead of buying a house with it,

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<v Speaker 2>it would just mean that it would take much longer

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<v Speaker 2>for her to buy a house. The help debt you'd

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<v Speaker 2>just be taken into consideration with cash flow. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think from my perspective, it's just about working out what's

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<v Speaker 2>right for you. Because if you're at home and you

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<v Speaker 2>have free cash flow and free rent and all of

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<v Speaker 2>this other stuff, and you're like, but I want it gone,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to argue with you.

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<v Speaker 4>You do you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about your values. But what are your values?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's think about those, not get overwhelmed about the indexation rate.

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<v Speaker 3>That was very well answered, my friend, Is that okay? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I tho the questions. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>the moral of the story. For the question your honor, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 3>for the questions you'r honor, it's just it's completely up

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<v Speaker 3>to you. But generally speaking, that money could probably be

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<v Speaker 3>put to better use in other places because.

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<v Speaker 2>Depending on your values and no help, debt is still

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<v Speaker 2>not bad debt. Like the idea that we are only

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing indexation, it's not a real interest rate, I think

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<v Speaker 2>is quite helpful. I think people just get really overwhelmed

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it, going, oh my gosh, it's this spiraling

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<v Speaker 2>out of control. I don't think so, but yeah, think

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<v Speaker 2>about your own values. What do you want to achieve,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the timeline that you want to achieve that in,

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<v Speaker 2>and what are those things that you need to allocate

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<v Speaker 2>cash towards. Like you're going to have to have a plan,

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<v Speaker 2>And to be quite blunt, you could say a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the time when I'm speaking one on one with

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<v Speaker 2>people who are worried about this, they actually haven't set

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<v Speaker 2>up their budget and cash flow yet. They're actually just

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<v Speaker 2>worried about the numbers being overwhelming. The second you pull

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<v Speaker 2>your head out of the sand and set up a

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<v Speaker 2>budget and cash you'd be like, oh, that doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>This makes sense, and it kind of like feeds itself

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<v Speaker 2>once you start allocating cash in certain ways.

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<v Speaker 5>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's all we've got, Georgia, King.

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<v Speaker 5>Go on, let's do it already.

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