1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: I believe we are joined on the line right now. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Hopefully I've got the line correct. Joining us on the 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: line right now is Billy Barton, the Greens candidate for Johnston. 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Good morning to you. 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: Billy, Morning Katie. 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: All right, we've got seven minutes, Billy, and a series 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: of questions to get through. 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: Are you ready, I'm ready. 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: Let's do it, all right, Billy? Why did you decide 10 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: to put your hand up to run for the seat 11 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: of Johnston. 12 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 2: Thanks for the question, Katie. Like many people, I've just 13 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: felt so exhausted and set up with the major parties 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: for years. It felt like they haven't been making decisions 15 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: in the best interest of the public, and it's been 16 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: sort of baffling to me. I thought, I've got two choices. 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: I can completely disengage from politics like a lot of people, 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: and I totally get why they do that. I mean, 19 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: it's hard to tell the difference between the major parties sometimes, 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: or I could put my hand up and offer an alternative. 21 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: Politics affects all of our lives, whether it's grocery prices, 22 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: rent controls, or bigger choices that are made on behalf 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: of all of us. So I couldn't just sit on 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: the sidelines anymore. So I can't afford to have career 25 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: politicians or people who see themselves as entitled to these 26 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: positions make decisions for us anymore. And look, Katie, I'm 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: a small business owner, I'm a renter, I'm an engineer 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: with a massive hex set. I know what it's like 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: to not think you might not ever be able to 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: afford to buy your own home. And it's not just 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: theoretical to me. I need policies to work better for 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: me as well. And I love our community in Johnston 33 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: and I want to offer them broader representation and be 34 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: their alternative to the major parties. 35 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: So, Billy, based on your sort of work experience and 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: also your experience in the community, why do you think 37 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: you're the best person for the role? 38 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: Put simply, Katie, we're in an integrity crisis in the 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: territory laboring the colp are both funded by gambling, gas 40 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: and alcohol companies as well as property developers. I mean, 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: we have no lobbyist register. It makes me wonder whether 42 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: they're really acting in the best interest of our community 43 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: or simply acting for their donuts. I think we need 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: real people like me who are connected to their community. 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: I mean someone who's facing the same issues. I love 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: the territory. I love living in Milna, I love going 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: to the market Plains footy, but I can't deny we've 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: got some more challenges to work out. Like ideally we 49 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: can do this together and bring the community along. That's 50 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: just not what's happening with our current representations. So I 51 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: know that I can be a genuine voice for the 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: community because I'm so engaged with the community. I play 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: for a local team, I'm heavily involved in our credible 54 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: art scene up here, and I think it's time we 55 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: had someone who is actually in touch with the needs 56 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: of the people they'll be representing. But we don't just 57 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: need real people. We need better rules, and that means 58 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: a ban on corporate donations, a public diary for politicians 59 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: so we know who they are meeting with and who's 60 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: influencing the choices they make. And we need a lobby register. 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 2: I mean last year we had a gas lobbyist working 62 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: for the Chief Minister. That just doesn't pass the pub test. 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: The Green's policies are informed by evidence and the community 64 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: and not corporate influencers. We don't take donations from corporations 65 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: looking to buy influence. We honestly act for just the community. 66 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: Billy, what do you see as being the biggest issues 67 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: in the electorate Based on the door knocking that you've done. 68 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 2: Well, based on all the conversations we're having at the 69 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: Rapid Creek Markets, I know it won't come as a 70 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: surprise to hear that one of the biggest issues we're 71 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: facing in Johnston is community safety. I've been broken into 72 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: we've had cars stolen. I know exactly how it feel, 73 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: and we have to have compassion for people who don't 74 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: feel safe. But I also know that people in our 75 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: community are really struggling. Something needs to change, and it's 76 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: just not as simple as locking people up. I mean, 77 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: we can't punish people out of poverty, homelessness, hunger and trauma. 78 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: And when people talk about crime, there's a massive focus 79 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: on property crime, but the reality is sixty five percent 80 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: of the men in jail are there for domestic violence offenses. 81 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: You know, in the MT we're breaking all the wrong records. 82 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: I'm talking highest rates of DV, highest rates of homelessness, 83 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: and the public housing weightlist is up to ten years long. 84 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: If we want safe communities, I think we need to 85 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: focus on what the people need right now. Our green 86 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: S team has a tangible plan to start to address this, 87 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 2: and it's better use services, it's more crisis beds, it's 88 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: rent controls, the actually investing in breaking the cycle of incarceration. 89 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 2: These are the things that we can put in place 90 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: now that will make a real difference to the people 91 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: of our community. 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: Billy, in terms of Saint Vinnie's moving into coconut growth, now, 93 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: I know that it doesn't fall into your electorate now, 94 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: but it is something that's been raised with us as 95 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: a concerned by some of our listeners that do live 96 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: in your electorate that you've put your hand up for. 97 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: Do you support that move of Saint Vinie's into coconut growth. 98 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: Look, I really understand the concerns that the people have 99 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: and that they fear if they haven't been listened to 100 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: on this issue. But again, Katie, if we want to 101 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: increase community safety, we need good services for people who 102 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 2: need the most. We need them to be close to 103 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: transport and community services. Like the site of Osenhen House 104 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: is right near Alarician Nation, the shops and the buses. 105 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: But I mean it's so important for them to be 106 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: proper community consultation so we get the best outcomes for 107 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: everyone Ultimately. Ultimately this is likely to be decided before 108 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: the electro and so I think it's more of a 109 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: question for Brent Potter and Natasha Files well. 110 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: And look, we have spoken to them about it and 111 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: we will continue to do Billy, I want to ask 112 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: a big one for the electorate as well as do 113 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: you support the development of gas, particularly on shore gas. 114 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: Look, I don't support onshore gas expansion at the moment 115 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: we have on your gas, but I don't think we 116 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: should be letting foreign gas companies take our gas and 117 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: pay barely any tax or royalties. We're subsidizing them with 118 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: tax payer money. Three point five billion is going to 119 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: Middle arm when we have the worst homelessness rate, the 120 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: worst domestics, family and sexual violence rate, and as I said, 121 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: a public housing weight list it's almost ten years long. 122 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: I think we need to use that money to transition 123 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: to solar, and we need to do it cleverly so 124 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: that those workers who are currently employed in the gas 125 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: sector so they're not left behind. It's clear we can't 126 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: we can't really afford to open up any new fossil 127 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: fuel projects. If we're to avoid climate cystastrophe. And at 128 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: the moment, when I play footy in ninety percent humidity 129 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: on a thirty five degree day, I honestly wonder how 130 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 2: much longer it's possible for people to play sports in 131 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: the territory. 132 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: Billy, we've only got thirty seconds left, very quickly. Have 133 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: you decided your preferences yet? 134 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: Look, I think there's a perception that we need to 135 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: clear up. People think that parties are trading preferences or 136 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: giving yours away. But nobody can decide where your vote 137 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: goes except for you. It's flows in the order you 138 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: put in the boxes. So if you like me, you 139 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: should vote for me first, and if I get the 140 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: least votes and get knocked out, your full vote goes 141 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: to the person you put second, and so on. So 142 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: we're really lucky that we have full preferential voting here. 143 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: Billy, about fifteen seconds, Why should people vote for you? 144 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: Look, I think that it's time that we, you know, 145 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: got rid of these major parties. And I'm a small 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: business owner, I'm a renter, I'm an artist and engineer. 147 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: I know it exactly what it feels like to feel 148 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: the day to day struggles and I think that we 149 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: get rid of the old gar and start implementing policies 150 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: that will work. 151 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: Billy, we have run out of time. Thank you very 152 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: much for having a chat with us this morning and 153 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: all the best. 154 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: Thanks very much for having me on Katie. 155 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: Thank you