1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: But of course plenty of parents out there wondering exactly 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: what's going to happen next Thursday when we know this 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: day of action is going to be taking place. According 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: to the unions, we were certainly informed yesterday by the 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Australian Education Union's Northern Territory branch that this day of 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: action is going to happen first of September. They say 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: it's in response to the government's refusal to lose the 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: wage freeze. So essentially teachers are going to be stepping 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: off work or stopping work i should say, for the day. 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Correctional officers are also going to be stopping work for 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: twelve hours, and then by the sounds of things, we 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: will see other departments and other areas across the public 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: service they're at that day of action, but lots of 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: parents wondering you're still going to be able to send 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: the kids to school. Now joining me on the line 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: right now is the Education Department's Deputy Chief Executive of 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: Regional Services. 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: So Ed, Amen, good morning to you, Good. 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: Morning Katie, and good morning to your listeners. 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time this morning. 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: So Ed, do you talk us through what is going 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: to be the situation next Thursday. Are schools going to 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: remain opened? 24 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: Schools are going to remain open yet, I do want 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: to thank our hard working teachers and school staff or 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 4: their ongoing commitment in this space, in particular, Katie, last 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 4: Friday when we had the half day stoppage in Darwin 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 4: and Palmerstan, all schools remained open. You know, I think 29 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 4: in the last few years we've all endured enormous challenges, 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 4: haven't we. But our education and school staff have done 31 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 4: a great job in ensuring that schools have stayed open 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: that are moral imperative and not only supporting every child 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 4: to engage in schooling, but also supporting parents and communities 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: in ensuring that you know, students can go to school 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 4: and parents can go to work. 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: So yes, schools will be open. 37 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: That is good to hear. 38 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: Do we have any idea at this point in time 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: whether every school across Darwin and Alla Springs is going 40 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: to be impacted or just how many any schools might 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: be impacted. 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: That's a really good question. 43 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: And look, it's not really about how many schools. It's 44 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 4: actually about how many union members will choose to take 45 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 4: that day to stop it. So some schools may have 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 4: a you know, a large number of union members. Some 47 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 4: schools may not have any. But what will happen during 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 4: the course of next week is that schools will ascertain 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: as best as they can which staff may not be there, 50 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: which staff will be there, and then they will communicate 51 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: that to their community. So, you know, we are really 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: confident that the work we're doing at the moment, and 53 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: the work schools are doing, will be able to make 54 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 4: sure that their communities are fully informed about what will 55 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 4: happen on Thursday. 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that is really good to hear, and I 57 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: know this, you know, that'll be the major concern from 58 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: a lot of parents. So we did hear last week 59 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: when that stock work action happened on Friday last week. 60 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: I know that at the school that my children went to, 61 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: some of the teachers did still go to school, not 62 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: because they weren't union members, but because they said that 63 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: they really couldn't. 64 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: Afford to have a day off. 65 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: What is the situation when, you know, when a teacher, 66 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: you know it does step out for industrial action, presumably 67 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: they don't get paid. 68 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: For that day. 69 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I'm not exactly sure of the industrial laws, 70 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 4: of course, but I do know that it's a choice, 71 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: and our teachers last fright, they were highly professional. Some 72 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: you know, they all made individual choices, which of course 73 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 4: we respect, and if some did go, they were highly professional, 74 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: If some state, they were highly professional, and their colleagues 75 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: were highly professional. And certainly, you know, the union has 76 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: made that very strong point in my conversation with the union, 77 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: that there really are stressing that this is a you know, 78 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: in terms of teachers working with other teachers, that there 79 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: is a sense of professionalism and each will support each other. 80 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: And I know that last week as well, there were 81 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: some teachers who'd done preparatory work to make sure that, 82 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, that the day didn't impact the students in 83 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: their classes too heavily, which I think just goes to 84 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: show you you know, that the teachers will fundamentally the 85 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: main priority. 86 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: Is the students that they're teaching. 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: But you know they are they are taking this industrial action, 88 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: as we will know, for various reasons. So do we, 89 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean, do we have any idea how many teachers 90 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: may actually take action? 91 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: So we don't. 92 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 4: We won't know that, you know, in its complete entirety 93 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 4: get until Thursday. We obviously, principals will work really hard 94 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 4: in trying to ascertain who will and won't, but it is, 95 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: you know, for for reasons the privacy and confidentiality, we 96 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 4: don't see how many union members might be in school. 97 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: But I will say that, you know, the level of 98 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 4: professionalism last week in Down and Patison allowed all of 99 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: those schools to function really well. And as you said earlier, 100 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 4: teachers are highly professional in this space. Some will prepare lessons, 101 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: some will choose not to go, will choose to go, 102 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 4: and their colleagues will will work around that. So again 103 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 4: we're confident at this stage that you know, this will 104 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: be managed and absolutely parents can take their children to school. 105 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: Now. 106 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: I have had one parent get in contact with me 107 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: saying that you know that their school is due to 108 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: have sports. 109 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: Carnival on that day. 110 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: What's going to happen for schools that may be in 111 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: situations like that. 112 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, So schools will start to make some decisions around 113 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 4: their timetable for that day, and obviously there might be 114 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: some amendments to timetables, or there might be some activities 115 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 4: like sports carnivals that can go ahead. You know, we 116 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 4: will as a whole department. We're in place to support 117 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: schools with sending stuff up from corporate, from our corporate 118 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 4: offices and our regional offices. So if it means that 119 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 4: the day is better served with a sports carnival because 120 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: staff supervision is able to be done, then that will happen. 121 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 4: If it means that there's a adjustment to timetables or 122 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 4: changing of is et cetera, then you know that will happen. 123 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: Parents can certainly expect that in some cases their students 124 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: may or the children may have different teachers. But again 125 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 4: those those you know, that kind of intel will be 126 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 4: worked out during the course of the week, Kadian and 127 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: each school's communities will be informed. 128 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: And said, again, you know, we know that this is 129 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: obviously going to be the second lot of industrial action 130 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: in about three weeks. What kind of impact is it 131 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: going to have though, if we sort of see rolling 132 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: industrial action. 133 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good question, and it's obviously not 134 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: a space that. 135 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: I can enter in terms of the industrial actions. 136 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 4: We're not quite you know, we're not quite Switzerland, but 137 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 4: we do take a neutral position on that. Our job 138 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 4: really is to ensure school stays open, students are supervised 139 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 4: in a state manner, and as best as possible. 140 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: Continuity of learning continues. 141 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: And you know, and we've got year twelve and year 142 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: eleven that really important places in their learning. 143 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 3: Again, I can only sank teachers. 144 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: Last week. We made sure that that continuity of learning 145 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 4: continued and we are again at this point confident that 146 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 4: that will happen. 147 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it must become hard though, you know, 148 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: if like you said there, even with those year twelve students, etc. 149 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: If we do get to the point where it's happening 150 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: more often, it must become a bit more difficult for 151 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,119 Speaker 1: the Education Department to try to manage the schools staying 152 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: opened well always. 153 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: But again, Katie, I think we'll face that bridge when 154 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 4: we come to it. Our experience last week demonstrated the 155 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 4: great strength and. 156 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: The agility of our schools. 157 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 4: And I can't speak highly enough of the staff in 158 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: schools and in regional offices in corporate who supported schools 159 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 4: in that space and you know where at this point 160 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 4: we're confident that will be able to manage certainly next week. 161 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, said im in the Education Department's Deputy Chief 162 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: Executive of Regional Services. I really appreciate your time this morning. 163 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: Like I said, I know there's lots of parents that 164 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: listen to the show a lot of them will be 165 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: wondering or would have been wondering what the situation is 166 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: for next Thursday, So we really appreciate you answering those 167 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: questions for us. 168 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 169 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 4: In again, scores will be open Katie, thank you for 170 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: your time. 171 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: Thank you