1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Jerzy and Amanda jam Nation. I'm reading Spare at the moment. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: It's taking a long time, and you're not a slow reader. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: No, it's a it's quite a time. It's a lot 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: of pages. I'm estimating probably about I think it's is 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: it four hundred and five hundred? 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 3: But I would like the stuff about the royal upbringing. 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: But stuff in the army couldn't care less. Stuff about 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: other stuff couldn't care less. 9 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: I can't have a discussion with my wife about it 10 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: because she just goes into a rage about Harry. She 11 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: hates him so much. And I don't, you know, I 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: don't know Harry. I know him throughout his history well, 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: but I don't have like any beef with him. I 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: don't care about the Royals, as far as I don't 15 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: feel that they he betrayed the royal family. You know, 16 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter to me your. 17 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: I think there's two camps, people like you who are 18 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: reading the book and have some sympathy for him, and 19 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 3: those that don't like him. He'll never read the book, 20 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: those two streams. 21 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: Whenever I was thinking, okay, I was just thinking, say, 22 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't Harry, he was just a soldier telling his story. 23 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: You'd read about his PTSD, fact that he lost his 24 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: mother and tragic circumstances. You would have sympathy for him. 25 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: And people say, I stop your engine. You live in 26 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: a castle. But he doesn't know any other life. It's 27 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: like if Johnny ice Pipe gets raised in housing commission 28 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: with a mother that beats him, in a father that's 29 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: long gone and in jail, you would have sympathy for him. 30 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it is that guy's book you'd 31 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: never read. 32 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: No, exactly, but he Harry has you know, he has 33 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: a He hasn't got any other idea. He doesn't know 34 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: what it's like not to have the life. 35 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: That has been a major bestseller and it has you know, 36 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: it's top of the top of the charts book wise. Recently, 37 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: apparently Megan Mirkal has been upset and overwhelmed after she 38 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: and Prince Harry were mocked on South Park of all things, 39 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: because when he writes this book and they do their documentaries, 40 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: that leaves them open to a lot of discussion, sure, 41 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: some ridicule, And. 42 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: That's the first time in royal history. Am I right 43 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: in saying this that someone's written such a tell all memoir? 44 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: I would say, so that's right. So it's been hard 45 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: going for them, but this one seems to have left 46 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: particularly Meghan really shaken. This is the depiction of Meghan 47 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: and Harry on South Park. 48 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 2: We we. 49 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: Alright, tranks for half of the on the sow, it's 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 4: so awesome, the beds cry. So let me start with you, Sam. 51 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 4: You've lived a life with the royal family. You've had 52 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: everything handed to you. But you're saying your life has 53 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 4: been hard, and now you've written all about it in 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: your new book where yes, that's my fans, you say, 55 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: my wife and Tyler like you should write a book 56 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: because your family like stopa and then start like journalists. 57 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 4: So you hate journalists, that's right, And now you wrote 58 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 4: a book that reparts on the lives of the royal family. Right, 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 4: so you're a journalist. We just want to be normal people. Oh, 60 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: this at Tangent is so hard. 61 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the new book called waw. 62 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: Yeah savage, But that's what that's what they knew they 63 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: were up for by writing a book and opening the 64 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: door to their hurt. 65 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: You ask people to press the bruise again and again. 66 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: Didn't Queen Mother She only spoke once and her husband 67 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: at the time said don't speak again. And she never did. 68 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: What that's what's in the book. 69 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: She spoke publicly or at home. 70 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: She spoke publicly once and leave it to the starter 71 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: of her husband and he said no, I didn't like that. 72 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: So and she never spoke again. No. And you never 73 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: heard the Queen mother say anything. No the damgam as 74 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: Harry calls her. 75 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: The rules have changed very much over the years, and 76 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: social media has changed. We expect to have access to 77 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: their lives. So when your baby's born, Megan, you tried 78 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: out and follow the trope, you show us your baby. 79 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: The second's born, all the stuff that Harry and Catherine 80 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: are doing, Harry and William and Kate. Sorry, and so 81 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: this is a very new world if you're not wanting 82 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: to be part of it. 83 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: But in the book, Harry details how he's got anxiety 84 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: and he really freaks out when he has to go 85 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: and make. 86 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: A speech, and most people do, but. 87 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: Everyone now has everyone has great sympathy for people with anxiety. 88 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: Now you know, you can't make jokes about people with anxiety. 89 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: Don't do anything except for Harry, And in his own 90 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: brother laughed at him when he was sweating profusely because 91 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: he had to make this speech. 92 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: Well, we know now the Royal family were very slow 93 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: on the uptake of accepting human fallibility. 94 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: We know that. But he's invited this discussion by opening 95 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: his door to the world. 96 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: Careful what you wish for. You're just got to be 97 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: quiet like uncle Andrew and not do anything. 98 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 4: I know. 99 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: See, this is the thing we vilify Meghan and Harry. 100 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: I don't, but people do. And yet Andrew's just quietly 101 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: off there doing his thing.