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Speaker 1: Get a. I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,

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Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure

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Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview

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Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 1: You are in for a treat today on the pod

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Speaker 1: Duncan Peak, Owner, creator, founder of the iconic Power Living

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Speaker 1: Fun Fact. That's where it did my first ever yoga

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Speaker 1: teacher training and it's the first ever school laver taught

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Speaker 1: at as a yoga teacher. I have been wanting to

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Speaker 1: get Duncan on the pod for a couple of years now,

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Speaker 1: and finally we ran into each other at a coffee

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Speaker 1: shop in Byron Bay and I was like, can I

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Speaker 1: please get you on the pod? Can I please get

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Speaker 1: you on the pod? And he was like, yeah, of course.

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Speaker 1: Absolute legend of a human being. He's not afraid of

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Speaker 1: talking about anything hard. He's been in like sas Special

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Speaker 1: Forces vibes, like such a go getter, such a passionate person.

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Speaker 1: He's got all these beautiful philosophies on life. Like we

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Speaker 1: call him peak bombs, you know, and he's just got

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Speaker 1: such a cool outlook on life. And every single time

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Speaker 1: I see Duncan, I get so inspired to like chase

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Speaker 1: my dreams and go after everything. So he's just if

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Speaker 1: you need a bit of inspo, this is the human

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Speaker 1: for you, and this is the episode for you. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait for you to hear it. I hope you

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Speaker 1: love it as much as I do. And Duncan, You're

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Speaker 1: a legend. Thank you so much to saying yes and jumping.

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Speaker 2: On the pod.

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Speaker 1: Duncan Peek, welcome to the pod. Having me Well, I

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Speaker 1: was just saying, if I don't hit record, all the

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Speaker 1: good stuff's going to happen before we go. So I

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Speaker 1: know I've been messaging you for a little while to

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Speaker 1: jump on this pod, so it's an absolute honor to

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Speaker 1: have you here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I have to say my first memory of you so

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Speaker 1: I'd already signed up to teacher training, so you are

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Speaker 1: the first person I ever did any kind of yoga

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Speaker 1: was a Melbourne girl, so I didn't know I knew

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Speaker 1: all the Melbourne teachers right, and you came in for

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Speaker 1: like to start training this as part of the teacher training.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea what to expect, and this like

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Speaker 1: Burie tatted up quite masculine guy walks in. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what I loved about you was I love yoga and

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Speaker 1: I love that it can be kind of like hippie

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Speaker 1: like you spun that on its head and just for like, yo,

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Speaker 1: I'm just somebody that loves yogre and I'm going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I definitely don't fit the stereotype. It's probably

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Speaker 1: I suppose the philosophical like that's why I go to

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Speaker 1: That's the big difference between like I love pilates too,

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Speaker 1: you know, and that's where the yoges it just like,

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Speaker 1: I loved learning about your like military background, and you

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Speaker 2: I didn't get into the sas, but I got injured

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Speaker 2: I went to what's called RMC, the Royal Military College

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Speaker 2: Done trum it's his officer training. So I did my

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Speaker 2: move on. The army wasn't my dream. It was more

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Speaker 2: needed to get out of where I was, and military

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Speaker 1: So I also, and this is where I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: military would be like discipline, courage, like a sense of

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Speaker 1: like you were just saying, which is like to me,

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Speaker 1: And then you just mentioned like it was also to

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't it like at fourteen that you kind

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Speaker 2: Then military just flipped all that on its head. Suddenly

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Speaker 2: I think the biggest decisions I've made in my life

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Speaker 2: know and it's like gutfield fuck it.

435
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So how did it grow from? I'm really

436
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 1: excited because it then went gang bus Like I think

437
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: I've been to nearly everything. I think not probably not quite,

438
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: but like pretty close. I've definitely been to all your kids' locations.

439
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: I did a book launch at the Bondai Junction and

440
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: did a yoga launch that like a yoga class for

441
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 1: a book launch there, but obviously Melbs as well. But

442
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: how did it go from? Okay, that one location to

443
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: then Okay, we're gonna this is this is getting bigger,

444
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: we need to grow it.

445
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. So it was six years at Neutral Bay. Yeah,

446
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 2: and then I was leaving Northern Beaches, so I always

447
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 2: wanted to I think the vision that I had back

448
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 2: then was like Bondai and Manly and that's it. That

449
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: was as big as I could think back then. And

450
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: so I was working on Manly location and we eventually

451
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 2: found a play and they're obviously very expensive to fit out,

452
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 2: so we had to get to that point and we

453
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 2: opened Manly and Manly was like broken even in the

454
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: first week. It was like I've never seen anything.

455
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: Haten, It's a great studio.

456
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was like wow, okay, we're on. Here

457
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: we go. And then I was like okay, wow, all right.

458
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: And then there were so many people that I trained

459
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: as teachers who wanted to make it a professional career,

460
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 2: and so I had people who were like can I

461
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: buy into this or can I open a studio and

462
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: you own part of it. We basically grew to I

463
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: think at eleven studios at one point we had thirteen

464
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 2: sort of over all the time at eleven, but there

465
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 2: was part ownerships franchises, that sort of stuff, and to

466
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: be on reflection, like there was a lot of time

467
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 2: I wasted trying to create that rather than just sort

468
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 2: of I used to say to a reporter back in

469
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: those days, what's your dream? I'm like to get back

470
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 2: to one studio and they'd be like, what you know

471
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: they want me to say, I want to go Like

472
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: forty five wasn't But for me, I was turning into

473
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 2: CEO businessman and I really wanted to stay that. I

474
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: could be in the community, I could focus on yoga,

475
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 2: and I certainly have CEO businessman. Entrepreneur is a big

476
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: part of my essence and enjoy it, but I need

477
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: to also contribute in another way.

478
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: And the next yeah, big time.

479
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah sir, Oh my goodness.

480
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Speaker 1: This is so cooled to learn all about it. I

481
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: want to talk quickly about teacher training because I got

482
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Speaker 1: to experience and remember it was.

483
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Speaker 2: You made me a little bit nervous and I'm like,

484
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: oh my god, is this little celebrity training. You know.

485
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: The day that was the hardest for me, the day

486
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Speaker 1: of silence for that well, probably the tracks that I'm

487
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: a chatterbox and that would make sense, but I was like, oh,

488
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: this silence is really hard.

489
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: I was so happy, great, but then.

490
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: You feel like such a sense of like at the

491
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: end of the day, you're like, actually I can do

492
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: something really hard, you know. And but it was what

493
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: wasn't when you were doing the teach trains in Bali.

494
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: We were in like Vinda Valley or something that yeah, yeah, totally.

495
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: But I must say I was one of those people

496
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: and I know this must be something common that people

497
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: say to you, but I was like, I don't want

498
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: to teach. This is a gift for myself. I just

499
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: want to be more connected and understand you because I

500
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: was there for a lot of the philosophy as well,

501
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: and like understanding my anatomy better.

502
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: Yep.

503
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: I think I did my final exam like written exam

504
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: and taught at Power Living in Melbourne that Wednesday afternoon.

505
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 2: Wow, I think I remember, Yeah you did. Yeah, And

506
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: I was like, I think Chris is round those days.

507
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 2: I was like, get older in the schedule, get us

508
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 2: straight on there.

509
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,959
Speaker 1: It was the best and it was and like I

510
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: loved teaching there so much. And I think as well,

511
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: even since I've traveled around and taught in different places,

512
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: people go you trained Living didn't you, Like they just know,

513
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 1: but absolutely the way that you I think a powerlaving teacher,

514
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: like there's a sense of like, you know, when you

515
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: step in the space, you're calling breath, you're calling like in.

516
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: A very Yeah.

517
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: And that's why I said to you before this, I

518
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: was like, where can I find great yokes? Because it's

519
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: that you yearn for that real power living like in

520
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: your bones. It's like because it is physical, mental, and spiritual.

521
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's those three elements, and we always say the

522
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: five elements earth, blire, a water, spirit. You know. If

523
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: you can balance those elements in the way you do

524
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: vocabulary and the physical movement and just the energy of

525
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,719
Speaker 2: the room, that's when you got your best classes, you know.

526
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: And like it's the hardest one to balance space. You know,

527
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: we just talk too much and don't give enough space

528
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: for people to articulate what's actually occurring. And then you

529
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: people have struggled with fire confrontation of the air making

530
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: it humorous. You know, you'd be amazing at the air

531
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: side of it. I'm amazing at the fire and earthside

532
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: of it, you know, And I've got to work hard

533
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: at the others which you have come and it's an amazing evolution.

534
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: But you know, like one thing, I think for people

535
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: who run businesses, I was quite experienced at helping small

536
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: business well, not quite experienced, but it was part of

537
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: my job. And when I took over, well, when I

538
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 2: opened the yoga studio, what I noticed about yoga is

539
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: that you could go to a gym and you get

540
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: this type of yoga and it'd be called how Stronger

541
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: or hathy or whatever it be called. And then you

542
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: go the next week and you go the exact same class,

543
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: exact same name, be a different teacher, and it'd be

544
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: a completely different style. And that's like you know, going

545
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: to McDonald's in China and then coming to a strange

546
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: in a completely different big Mack. It's exactly the same.

547
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: And good business is standardization of product. And so I

548
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: hate calling it that because there's obviously an artistic side

549
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: to yoga, but that was probably what I did is

550
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: I went, okay, well, I've got all these artists yogis

551
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: who don't want to be controlled. They don't want me

552
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: to tell them how to teach. But if I can

553
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: give them structure, they'll teach better. And if I can

554
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: show that to them, because I sort of have a

555
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: structured side to me, but I can sort of delve

556
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: into the artistic side. And so I did that and

557
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: then Power Living had that structure that you could go

558
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 2: to every class and if it said it was a yes,

559
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: a heart or a vines or whatever it is, you

560
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 2: got the same or at least seventy to eighty percent

561
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 2: the same experience every class. And that people want that,

562
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: you know, if not, they'll just go and run on

563
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: a treadmill because I'll get the same experience every time.

564
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: And I one thing I found, especially when I was

565
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: living in Sydney in a student at the Bondai Beach

566
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: Studio a lot, because I'd always go to Soul's classes.

567
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 1: Yeah he's awesome, and so you'd get this like you know,

568
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: you'd get their strength and there. But I still remember

569
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: in one class we were in a pose and he goes,

570
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: imagine you're sucking spaghetti up your peepee hole, but he's

571
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: actually getting to do something really anatomical that's important for whatever.

572
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 2: Person he can get away with saying it like that.

573
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: He's metaphorically. He actually was the one who helped me

574
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: evolve the earth, fire water spirit. He taught me how

575
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: to think metaphorically and visually. He's quite amazing in that way,

576
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: very unique human.

577
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: You'd always walk away with something. Yeah, and he might

578
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: even tell a story even though there's something really like

579
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: deep and philosophical about it. It'll be like I was

580
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: at the service station. I told myself, don't grab the

581
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: mars bar. I'll still grab the mask, but but then

582
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: you'll twist it into like a yogi like sanscrit word,

583
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my goodness, this is don't get

584
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: the mass bar lolla. It was just really like beautifully

585
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: it was so easy to relate to, and but you'd

586
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: still get your power living structure. So you'd still walk

587
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: out and be like, physically, I've done this thing. I'm

588
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: getting stronger, I'm feeling more connected to myself, but I'm

589
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: also like, you feel like you're spiritually upgrading.

590
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: A little bit too. Yep, that's exactly what we want.

591
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: So okay, you can tell I'm a huge fan. So

592
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: one other thing, just quickly about the teachers. Do you

593
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: know who one of my first do you remember? With

594
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: the tea which probably still exists, you'd get a senior

595
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: teacher to come into us junior Burger teachers and give

596
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: us feedback on our classes. So Emmy was one of

597
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: my first and she called me lolo philosopher. She was like,

598
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: oh my goodness. You know you did four different philosophy

599
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 1: lessons in that one hour. And I was like, I

600
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: just love it. Also, she's like, I did one love

601
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: how body that would have been? I reckon I would

602
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: have been nearly ten years ago.

603
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably Yeah.

604
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: Anyway, So this is one thing I want to ask about,

605
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: is what is because it says on the power of

606
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: being side neuro spinology. Yeah, am I saying that right?

607
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are neurosponology. It's there was a gentleman who

608
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: he was ahead of the chiropractical like a president of

609
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: the Chiropractic Association Strain. He broke away and he started

610
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: his own sort of style, which was a it's around

611
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: understanding the spine and getting the optimal alignment of every

612
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: vertebrus of the individual frame and and the periopheral nervous

613
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: system has the most optimal environment to have century and

614
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: receive information, et cetera. So it was more of a

615
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: like which is very similar to the goal of Hatha yoga.

616
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: If I'm honest, we just talk about it with nadis

617
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: and everything, but it is about the improvement of the

618
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: nervous system and optimal alignment of your body, especially so

619
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 2: you can sit in meditation for such a long time.

620
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: So I was, I don't know, I was probably seven

621
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: years into my yoga journey, and I was a bit

622
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: confused with anatomy. And there's a lot of yoga teachers

623
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: teaching anatomy. You really didn't know much about anatomy. I'm

624
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 2: one of these people that I just I have to know.

625
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: So I was like, well, I'm going to go and study.

626
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: And that was a two year long sort of advanced

627
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: diploma I think it is, and it fitted within the

628
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: last style, and so I just went studied that and

629
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: it was amazing. And it was really because I wanted

630
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: to train teachers so well, and i'd finished sort of well,

631
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: not finished, but I got to a depth of philosophical

632
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: understanding of yoga, which is really where I sit and

633
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: you know for me what yoga does for me. That

634
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: I then went, all, I want to be also anatomically

635
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: intelligent in the way we move people. Because ten years

636
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: are doing yoga, it can have an effect on the body,

637
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 2: and like any sport, if you do it for you know,

638
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: we talk about yoga arsenal. You do anything physically for

639
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: a long period of time, you're going to suffer the

640
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: consequences of that sport, like a golfer. You know, it's

641
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: going to develop one side, et cetera. So I was like, well,

642
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: we need to make it as safe as possible, even

643
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: though it's not the best bulletproof practice out there, but

644
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: it's a good movement practice. And because it's got the

645
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: philosophy and everything, and then you know, it just becomes

646
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: a whole mental health evolution and all that sort of

647
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: stuff that we all love. So yeah, I was really

648
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: inspired to just go and learn so that I wasn't

649
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: just teaching rubbish, you know and speaking out of my

650
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: bum and I could really We used to get a

651
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: lot of physios and doctors come to the trainings, and

652
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: I wanted to be able to be able to teach

653
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: them as well. Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, I just

654
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: dived into that. And then all of our teachers, you know,

655
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: Amy's she's anatomy nerd, and we just sort of got

656
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: everyone into this, like come on, we need some anatomical

657
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: intelligence in our sequencing. Let's do it, you know, and

658
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: it was hard because so many of the teachers are

659
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: just full artists. For yeah, that sort of trying to

660
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: get them to understand anatomy, which is such a structured,

661
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: you know language, just giving it.

662
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: It's like there's a lot of muscles when you're caught

663
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: when you're asking for someone to like turn something on.

664
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've always struggled most with the anatomy side

665
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: and stuff for sure.

666
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 2: And we make it clear that you don't have to

667
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: know it. There's just it's just another rabbit hole we

668
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: can dive down, you know. Yeah, So I'm going to

669
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: train you. I'm going to train you in all of

670
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: them and then you know, you can go and work

671
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: out which ones you want to dive down. But some

672
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: of the greatest teachers in Australia that you know, I'm

673
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: my greatest teachings teachers, I know, they don't know anatomy

674
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: that well. Yeah, but they can do sequences that are safe, yes,

675
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: and that's all that matters.

676
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I remember so I got into I

677
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: was one of the classics that got into yoga via

678
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: Bigram many many many years ago, just to balance out

679
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: my boxing training. I was like, but I remember that

680
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: always say happy spine, happy life, and it's fully tracks

681
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: with all the like it just and what you were,

682
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: what you've trained in as well. Is that also because

683
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: I feel like you've almost got like jiu jitsu style

684
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: in your movement training as well, So you're passionate about

685
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: like mobility and like real that functional movement as well, right.

686
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I have a black belt in

687
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: zendo kai, which is a martial art. I did for

688
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: about fifteen years until I finished in the Army. It

689
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: was sort of what I did, and then I've been

690
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: doing jiu jitsu actually pretty seriously for the last two years.

691
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm still only a three strike white belt at the moment,

692
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: but it's my practice at the moment, and I'm learning

693
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: how to, i don't know, not be so competitive and

694
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: bullish and how to flow in that world, which is

695
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: an interesting thing.

696
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: Would like support as much as a different.

697
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: Person that shows up in a way. But you know

698
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: what I've really learned this white belt journey all over again,

699
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: the humility for me to show up and be not

700
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: the king in the room and not the best at

701
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: something and knowing I can't get there a bit like

702
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: god surfing is it's been very humbling for me. It's

703
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: forty seven years of age where I've managed to create

704
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: a bit of success and really great life. And you know,

705
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: this is my training of just always do something that

706
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: you aren't good at or that you've got to be

707
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: a beginner, like that beginner's mind. It's so important and

708
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: it was really missing in my life, and so it's

709
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: just been Yeah, I'm addicted, like I really am addicted

710
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 2: to it. But movement in general is something I've always

711
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: been addicted to and fascinated by. You know, when I

712
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: watch Emmy, the way Emmy moves, like Emmy's one of

713
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: the best movies I've ever seen in light and you know,

714
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: the fact that we're together as I just feel so fortunate.

715
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: But watching her move and the way he ex dances

716
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: and soul and all of the people I've got to

717
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: meet through yoga, it's just fascinating how they move. Where

718
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: I was a rugby player, it was like, Okay, there's

719
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: one direction to get the ball of that end, however

720
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 2: you do it, And eventually that turned into okay, well

721
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: we can move and stretch and not be in pain

722
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: as much as I am, And yeah, I find it

723
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: fascinating watching people move.

724
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: Do you follow Tom Hardy? Yeah, I was going to say,

725
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: because he's like deep in the jiu jitsu. Yeah, yeah,

726
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: you can tell that. It's like such a passion for him,

727
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: you can really and.

728
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: It's something that did. It's like yogurt because it's a

729
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: chess game. People don't realize the mental side to it

730
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: and it's an endless pit of learning technique. And for me,

731
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: it gave me a community as well, which I can

732
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: isolate myself a lot because I've been in front of

733
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: the spotlight a little bit and it's not something I

734
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: really want. I can isolate myself and Emmy's very introverted,

735
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: so I need to make sure I'm doing things where

736
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm in communities and communities of people that have that

737
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: also that natural alpha masculine side to themselves. So yeah,

738
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: it's been it's been a beautiful experience, but yeah, I'm

739
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: a norvious.

740
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: The reason why I'm meant like that the yoga could

741
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: time in well with the jiu jitsu is I trained

742
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: muy Thai for a while and there's so much respect

743
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: and presence. You have to be super present otherwise, well

744
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: you're going to get hit, right, right, and I imagine

745
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu would be the same, like you have to

746
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: be so I know it's like much more of a

747
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: I've been to a few comps where I've just watched

748
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: mate in jiu jitsu comps and I'm like, oh my god,

749
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: like this is and it can be quick and it

750
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: cannot be quick, and it's just it's like it's like

751
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: this presence picture that carries across with the yogs as

752
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: well and a deep respect yeap o. Well, I noticed

753
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: that definitely with the moy taile. I was like, oh,

754
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: you have to bow before you get an honor.

755
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the bashida a way to death before dishigner.

756
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: So like. And that's why I like seeing these like

757
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: movement journeys for you because I and I love what

758
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: you said about like being a beginner at something and

759
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: I live half in La and I train as an

760
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: actor and people like what, you're over thirty too old

761
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: to be doing acting. I'm like, are you kidding me?

762
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: Watch me? Like I love like I love the hunger

763
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: of like like that abiliity, Like how lucky that I

764
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: can even learn this thing right now? Yeah, And I

765
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: think that's the same with the jiu jitsu, Like.

766
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a humility I think. Yeah, maybe I don't

767
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: think you understood. Like I think I lost it a

768
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: little bit. Not that I was arrogant or anything like that,

769
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: but I just every area of my life I was

770
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 2: either the boss or I'd done it for so long

771
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: and it was like I forgot that. Okay, I need

772
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: to do new things, you know, I need to be

773
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: in that world. I need to not be the boss.

774
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: I need to not be in charge. I need to

775
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: And it's been so freeing, you know, getting joked out

776
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: by twenty sixty five kilo guys and it's like, yeah,

777
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: you got me, and I'm so happy, you know it's

778
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: happened and humbling, and then there's also all the frustration

779
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 2: and you know, but yeah, the yoga mindset, it will

780
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: definitely transfer over. But there's just a level of technique

781
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: you need to that mindset coming in, you know, and

782
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: it's just survive At the moment. I love it.

783
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: So what talk to me about what's next? So, as

784
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: I mentioned, this would be a nice fair release, so

785
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: you can say what you're working on? Yeah, how are

786
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: living online?

787
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? So power living with you know, we've downsized a

788
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: lot of our franchises went their own way. COVID really

789
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: affected Hamitous, you know, wiped out half our business in

790
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: a way. But in some ways there's always you know,

791
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: a desperation mother of invention or you know, those tough times.

792
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: So you know, we went online like everyone did, and

793
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: we've recently just created instead of filming online. And one

794
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: thing I hated was teaching to a camera just a

795
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 2: green dot. You know. I was like, I really enjoy this. Actually,

796
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: it's a funny thing I've got to tell you, is

797
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 2: we say that there was the rise of like years ago,

798
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: was the rise of the wandering Yogi. The yogi cruise around,

799
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: you know, and that's how first started the Tabee Joyce

800
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: and our younger days and the Western has learned they

801
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: went and taught these years. And then there was a

802
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: rise of the studio yogi, which was a bit like me.

803
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: I was one of the people who opened a lot

804
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: of studios. Then there was a rise of the Instagram yogi,

805
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: and I tried to be in that well. But you know,

806
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: admittedly it's a very good world to stay in, and

807
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: I was a bit old to really keep up with

808
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: the physical prowess that was being demonstrated. You know, the

809
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: kids overtook me eventually, and now it's the rise of

810
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: the zoom yogi. Yeah, and there's these people who can

811
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: nail it, but I just like, I'm not very good

812
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: at it. And so I was racking my brains, is like,

813
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to teach the camera and the people

814
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: teaching online yoga down and manly I felt for them,

815
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: you know, and because a lot of people turn their

816
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: screens off, you're teaching the black screens and just green dots,

817
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, how can we fix this? And

818
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 2: I was like I was looking at a surfing website

819
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: watching the waves, you know, going I should we go

820
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: for a surf. I was like, why don't we have

821
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: one of these cameras in our room, the surfcams, right webcam,

822
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: and then you can go to Troy's Saturday morning sold

823
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: out class do it in New Loungdry and we're trying

824
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: to get a view so that it's like you're in

825
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: the room, so there's actually legs next to you and

826
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: bums going here and arms going here. So that and

827
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: then our teachers aren't teaching online yoga. They'll have a

828
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: TV with people up if they want to not be

829
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: black on the screen, but they're teaching a class. Yeah,

830
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: and I'm really excited about that because it hasn't been

831
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: done in Australia and something that really motivates me is

832
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: to be the first to do things and be original

833
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: in a way. You know. That really excites me, that

834
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: creative side of like sense. Right, Yeah, it does. And

835
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: I think as soon as people find out, it's going

836
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: to go around because and it saves us all the

837
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: costs of what costs to do online yoga, which is considerable. Yeah,

838
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 2: and I think you get a better product. So I'm like, well,

839
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: this is a win win win everywhere. But then I'm like, oh,

840
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: it's going to go to every yoga sore. I'm like,

841
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 2: I own nothing, share everything. That's the That's what it's

842
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: got to be eventually on the yoga world. So yeah,

843
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: I hope everyone does it, and I hope it gets

844
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: the more people.

845
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: Well, make sure that in the show notes there are

846
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: links to get involved and you check it out. I

847
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: can't have you on the pod without asking you. And

848
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: it's probably a hard question to answer, but do you

849
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: have like a favorite yogi philosophy or is there like

850
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: some favorite learning that you're just like, this is my

851
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: fail safe, this is what I.

852
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 2: Can Yeah, I mean it's really, I mean you've done

853
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: the process to understanding your vastness. That really your belief

854
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: systems that drive you, whether you believe in karma and

855
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: then you've been born with them, or whether just things

856
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: you've learned from a young age. I think that if

857
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: I summed all that, it's the ability to rest in

858
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: just that complete impermanence, that uncertainty of life, and not

859
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: let it turn to fear and then deal with all

860
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: your fear responses, which are all your reactions to keep

861
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: you safe or to prove you're smart or get people

862
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: to like you. You know, it's like, can you just sit

863
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 2: in that uncertainty and just eventually thrive in it? Which

864
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: is difficult? You know, I get tingles and vulnerable, and

865
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: I talk about it because I think a lot of

866
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: us we think we confuse being uncertain with ignorance, and

867
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: we straight away want to create some sort of concept

868
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: that now feels like we understand or we know, and

869
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: that's where we make the mistake. It's like, no, that's

870
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 2: that's already what you know. It's like, can you sit

871
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: there and just receive, which is you know what you

872
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: do in meditation. I think that's what people we should

873
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: try and master through our yoga practice. Is that ability.

874
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: And no one we're not doing that. And maybe there's

875
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: times where you don't do that you want to be

876
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 2: safe and it's but I think there should be times

877
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: in your life where you just can sit like that.

878
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: Ah, We'll think about how much magic would come out

879
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: of the uncertainty, because our brain is like that primal

880
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,479
Speaker 1: part of the brain that is like uncertainty, no fear, fear,

881
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: like you could die right now, like and so we do.

882
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: We have all these mechanisms that are like, don't feel

883
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: the fear, don't feel the fear, and really it is

884
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: just sitting with the like, well, let's just see where

885
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: this goes in something simple or something really deep. And

886
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: so I get it. But it is that it's that

887
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: ability to and also like if the fear does crop up,

888
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: just being like oh cool, that's there. I'm still going

889
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: to sit here and be okay with the uncertainty.

890
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

891
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: Oh I like that.

892
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what that moment I think is

893
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: what yoga is. Hmmm. And so can we be in

894
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: that moment more often yeah, and then does that person

895
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 2: is there's something that exists in there? Can you operate

896
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: in that moment?

897
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Well, of course you would have, Yeah, that would be

898
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 1: most people won't.

899
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: They'll go to their belief systems, and you know everyone does.

900
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: I do as well. But it's there's a space there

901
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: and like you've see a little bit of the home

902
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 2: that I live in now. Whenever I need to make

903
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: decisions and want to be creative, it's like, okay, there's

904
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: my meditation, Matt. I sit there and just I'm just

905
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: going to see it until a genuine insight dawns upon me,

906
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: not old information that I've just constructed. And sometimes that

907
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: could take months, six months, a year before it is

908
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: a genuine insight. It so whoa, that's new, that's that's

909
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: It's like a webcam thing is like how do we

910
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: fix Okay, I want to sit. I'm not going to

911
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 2: think about it in meditation. Just this this is something

912
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 2: I want resolved in a universe. Give me a download

913
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: and it's like, whoa, something so simple, Okay, let's do that.

914
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: So it is very simple. It is making it sound simple,

915
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: but I think we it's weird because I think as

916
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: humans we like to. We don't necessarily like to, but

917
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: we complicate things and we have these like the way

918
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: you were talking about the belief system and like the

919
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: way we've kind of conditioned ourselves to kind of like

920
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: survive and and kind of like feel okay. But I

921
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: do think, like you mentioned it being clear as well,

922
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: And I think like when you're really clear is when

923
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: you're uncomfortable, like comfortable being uncomfortable, and you're just like, Okay,

924
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: well we're here. I know, I know I'm here, and

925
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: like let's just see and be open. And that's really

926
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: scary as well, Like I guess, I mean, you.

927
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Speaker 2: Live in that a lot. I've watched your journey and

928
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: just seeing you come into the yoga world and take

929
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: over the yoga world. You know, when you were like

930
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about yogus, I'm like, wow, that's

931
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: going to trigger so many people. They're going to choose

932
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: to be triggered by something like that. It's like this

933
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: girl just doesn't care. I'm like, Wow, she's living her truth.

934
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: She's free. Like I'm like cool, I like that. Let's

935
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: let's add some slang, you know, and yeah, like I've

936
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: seen that in you and you see that in so

937
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: many people doing amazing things, and they may not even

938
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: cognitively know that that's their skill. But that's what I've

939
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: seen in so many people who have done so many things,

940
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: is that is their skill. Is they're just in that

941
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 2: creative intuitive space and they're not going into fear.

942
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I've always thought, my boyfriend always says me, goes,

943
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 1: your superpower is fearlessness. Is like, you'll just do stuff

944
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: that's uncomfortable. I'm like, but I don't really want regret.

945
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: I want to like do stuff that I'm never going

946
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: to look back and go, oh, I wish, I wish

947
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: I gave that a red hot crack. I'm gonna be like, well,

948
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: I gave it a red hot crap. I have plenty

949
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: of failures as well, And I think anybody that has

950
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: had some form of like what people would deem successful,

951
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: they've probably tripped a shit ton of times to get there.

952
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: Right And so ah, I could talk to you all

953
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: day long. Thank you so much, pleasure, pleasure, And this

954
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: place is beautiful, well done. I know it's another passion

955
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: of yours.

956
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: Building is a huge passion and designing and drawing.

957
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, look at this creative like I love it.

958
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what is next for you. You

959
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 1: are a huge inspiration. I don't know how we haven't

960
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: caught up sooner.

961
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for having me and you're

962
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: a huge inspiration to me. And thank you for you know,

963
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: some of your tips and everything for my journey because

964
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: we need it.

965
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: Oh mate. The feeling is totally mutual and it's been

966
00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: an honor.

967
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: My awesome thank you.

968
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Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

969
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Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. This party my work

971
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Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

972
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,799
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