1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Jonesy and Demander podcast. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: Well, Andrew mount Batten windsor what a story. What an 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: unprecedented move for a modern royal family to have one 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: of their members arrested? A question by what a forall 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: from Grace? And this is to be clear, this isn't 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: this is because of the Epstein files, but not because 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: of sexual indiscretions, which is always denied. We have to 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: say not because of that, but he is because of 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: not upholding a public office in interfering in that meaning 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: that he was a trade envoy for the British when 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: he left the Navy. He was given a job of 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: traveling around the world and spooking British businesses, British oil, 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: British this, why don't you invest? Et cetera, et cetera. 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: And they have seen an email chain that he would 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: come back from those trips, he'd go to China, et cetera, 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: those places, and he would send the information that he'd 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: gleaned straight to Jeffrey Epstein. Why why did Jeffrey? But 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: they could be seen as investment opportunities, opportunities. Andrew was 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: known as the useful idiot. 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean this is my light reading I've 21 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: had lately. I finished Virginia Juphrase book. She was one 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: that was groooned by Andrew the way you see and Epstein. 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: And then the photo with Prince Andrew that he did 24 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: had happened, but it subsequently paid a twenty four million dollars. 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: Then I've read the book that you gave me, which 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: is called entitled. It is about him and Fergie and 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: those guys. You know, they're selling like he was supposed 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: to be an envoy for his country. He has portrayed 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: his country. 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: He took money. 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: He's like, he's not the fourteen hundreds. His head would 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: be on a pike. 33 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: But the thing is, is this the end of the 34 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: royal family. That's what people are saying, because the Queen presumably. 35 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the end of it, the end 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: of him, but no, well. 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: This is what people are saying, is that we would 38 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 2: chase chase the money. Is that that so called twenty 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: four million to pay to him and he claimed he 40 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: never met the Queen paid a chunk of that money, 41 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: and that they were coming up to the Platum jubilee 42 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: and wanted it all to go away. How much did 43 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: the Royal family know the Queen is no longer part 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: of the story. As we know. Prince Charles would have 45 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: had to know. And that's what the English taxpayers are saying. 46 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: Was this our money you used to pay off to 47 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: silence a young woman who had been sexually trafficked. What 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: an appalling thing that is, a woman who subsequently took 49 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: her own life. This is what will end the royal family. 50 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 2: This is what we'll do. It is where's the accountability? 51 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: Whose is the money? 52 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: They're always already released a pressed statements saying they're devastated 53 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: about his car cress that killed him next Wednesday. 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: There's a particular palace security officer who has been doing 55 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: a number of interviews and part of that is that 56 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: when women would arrive at the palace, they'd be known 57 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: as missus windsor no official information was given on them. 58 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: All. 59 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: The royals are supposed to say who's coming, who's visiting, etc. 60 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: For security reasons, who's in the palace, Well, the queen's there, 61 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: and he'd always say, no, I'm not giving you any names. Outrageous. 62 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: It was even a so called Chinese spy having dinner 63 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: at Buckingham Palace while the Queen's there all of this stuff, 64 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: But one of the weird things was this shows you 65 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: how juvenile and entitled he was. This is the same 66 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: security officers saying they had to go into the bedrooms 67 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: when the rooms when the royals weren't there, to check 68 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: on the special buttons they have that if they're in trouble, 69 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: they press off the duress button, the juwress button, And 70 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: this is what they found in the room. 71 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: So we had to use to have to go around 72 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: all the bedrooms and check to make sure they're only 73 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: miking older. A couple of us in the inspector when 74 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: when they're into his apartners. Probably when I first went 75 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 3: up there and he had in tons of teddy bears 76 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: in his bed like lads and seventy two. I didn't 77 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: realize it. I said fifty originally, and then the maid 78 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: said that seventy two. And then the inspector said, in 79 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: the drawer there, I've got a laminated CARDI of picture 80 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: of all these teddy bears on the bed. Because basically, 81 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: if the Mays don't put the teddy bears back exactly 82 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: like this, isn't that picture because in the. 83 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: One he flips, he flips and he yells at them, 84 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: and he screams at them because the teddy bears aren't 85 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 2: in their correct This was a man who, apparently, when 86 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: he was arrested the other day, said I'm the Queen's 87 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: second son. He doesn't get it, he doesn't understand the 88 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: consequences of what is at stake here, and he's about 89 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: to find out. 90 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: The Hen's coming home. 91 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: Aren't they just