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Speaker 1: In the studio with you this morning is the Lord

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Speaker 1: Mayor of Darwin convat Scarlets. Good morning, Corn, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Is so great to hear a principle saying exactly what

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Speaker 2: we'll be saying for a long long time. Support kids

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Speaker 2: to get education. Get education, open doors in your life,

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Speaker 2: sitting back and your aspirations to get said the link

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Speaker 2: when you grow up, h rubbish, go to school, learn

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Speaker 2: to read and write, get a job, do something. You

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Speaker 2: can buy the car, the house, television and everything else

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Speaker 2: that everybody else has. But you're not going to do

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Speaker 2: that one if you stay home trying to get said link.

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Speaker 1: Well, also if you're out on the streets at night,

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Speaker 1: you know, running a mark. And this is the thing.

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Speaker 1: If we're able to get some of these kids in

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Speaker 1: central Australia to a boarding school and into a safe

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Speaker 1: place at night, surely it's got to be a step

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Speaker 1: in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: We're listening too much to people. They've got PhDs, the doctorate,

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Speaker 2: they wrote thesis about things while they're living in Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: They have no idea about their rough life. People live

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Speaker 2: in Yindom or in Tilley, Alans everywhere else. The other

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Speaker 2: notion bleeding hearts Yes, parents should be responsible. If you've

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Speaker 2: got the charge that's sixteen, the child is a minor,

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Speaker 2: it's under your responsibility. If you decide to drink, to

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Speaker 2: take drugs and let the kill run loose, you should

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Speaker 2: be responsible. End of story. All the others is abtu rubbish.

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Speaker 2: I've been a parent, I'm still a parent. I've got

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Speaker 2: three grown up sons. I'll tell you what. They came

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Speaker 2: back to home with a stolen bike that we had

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Speaker 2: their ass kicked, and they were made to return it

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Speaker 2: back to where they stole it. Thank god they didn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know our culture, come from a Greek background.

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Speaker 2: If I did something wrong, I know what we're waiting

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Speaker 2: for me at home, for my mother. And that's why

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Speaker 2: people get good people. They get examples that they get disciplined.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean over the last couple of weeks, well,

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Speaker 1: look over the last few years. Crime is absolutely dominated

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Speaker 1: on this show, and that is led by our listeners.

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Speaker 1: But over the course of the weekend we saw a

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Speaker 1: horrendous crime series around the northern suburbs around Darwin. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how concerning is it for you? And you and I? Again,

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Speaker 1: you and I have spoken about this on so many occasions.

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Speaker 1: But for you, as the mayor of Darwin, when you

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Speaker 1: are out there trying to promote the place, you are

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Speaker 1: out there pushing for everything that's great about Darwin. How

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Speaker 1: frustrating is it for you that this just keeps.

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Speaker 2: Happening, Kate. I'm also the president of the local government

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Speaker 2: sits in Northern Territory. I've got Indigenous councilors that tell

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Speaker 2: me they've got the same situation in there communities. Their

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Speaker 2: feeling is that the government has taken not this government,

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Speaker 2: any government has taken away the power of their hands.

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Speaker 2: They can't control their kids because the kids are uncontrollable.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that to me. I'm a young one. Well,

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Speaker 2: the other day we discussed about the.

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Speaker 1: Age of criminal responsibility.

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Speaker 2: Really my point was, you raise the age of criminal responsibility.

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Speaker 2: But what a you're doing with the young ones? The

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Speaker 2: bridge legislation? They need something there. Just raising the age

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Speaker 2: it does nothing. It just creates a coreholt of kids

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Speaker 2: that says I can do anything you like, can't do

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Speaker 2: anything about me. Well, I'm sorry. If you're going to

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Speaker 2: actually get these kids off scot free and don't put

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Speaker 2: them in downtail, don't put them in prison. That's the

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Speaker 2: wrong way to do it. Make sure you do boarding schools,

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Speaker 2: like the principal was telling us these things. How did

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Speaker 2: you rest you go there?

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Speaker 1: So you do think that criminal responsibility I should be

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Speaker 1: lowered back down to ten mate.

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Speaker 2: We live in arera that kids that get information all

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Speaker 2: around twenty four hours a day. You can give a

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Speaker 2: seven year old your mobile phone. It can actually run

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Speaker 2: it and fix it and tell you how to fix it.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me that kids are not smart today and

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Speaker 2: answer to you before. Why when they commit a crime

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden this kids that don't have a

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Speaker 2: know that they do something wrong. Don't want to be recognized.

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Speaker 2: Let's stop posting footing around. We live in a different world.

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Speaker 2: When I was growing up, we didn't have mobile phones.

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Speaker 2: We actually we didn't have a phone in my house

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Speaker 2: at that time. All right, now you got television, you

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Speaker 2: which is the worst of all. And a lot of

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Speaker 2: time Indigenous councils telling me that the skoots in the

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Speaker 2: community is TikTok. The kids are sharing stuff, sharing stuff.

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Speaker 2: I can steal a car can still too. It's really

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Speaker 2: really cool. It's a huge issue talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, let's move. Do you want

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Speaker 1: to just ask you though? Of course we've got the

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Speaker 1: federal ministers in town. Are you, as the mayor, going

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Speaker 2: No? No, I'm going to actually take Catherine King out

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Speaker 2: and show her what we're doing as part of the

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Speaker 2: deal city deal we've got. I'm going to show some

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Speaker 2: of the lanes we activate. If she's got time, I'll

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Speaker 2: take it that cas Areina shwimming pool or apparently we're

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Speaker 2: filling up the first twenty five meter pool. Everything is

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Speaker 2: progressing according to plan. If this monsoon is not as

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Speaker 2: be able to open it much much earlier than actually

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Speaker 2: we oh anything three to four months, five months depending again,

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Speaker 2: because actually Halicos Construction has done a really good job

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Speaker 1: Feeling it up now. Filling the twenty five me to

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Speaker 1: pull up now, and they're not opening it for five

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Speaker 2: We have to test it. It has to be. The

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Speaker 2: others are not going to be fulled. They're not going

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Speaker 2: to be landscaped. We have to do gradually. We can't

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Speaker 2: just rush it and then oops, something went wrong.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing. We've got to make sure

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Speaker 1: we get it right. So that is that sounds like

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Speaker 1: it's good progress there at the rain pool.

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Speaker 2: And you saw the other day in the news we

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Speaker 2: actually come to spending forty six million dollars in the

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Speaker 2: economy here in Darwin, employing local people. This morning I

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Speaker 2: was told that a lot of employees can't find workers.

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Speaker 2: We usually get local employees. For example, Kavanaugh Street is

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Speaker 2: done by a local company, Moselles and Suns. We're progressing

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Speaker 2: now with the three million dollar reconfiguration of Smith Street.

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Speaker 2: We're going to landscape Smith Street from them all further

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Speaker 2: And we're just going on to spend the money we

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Speaker 1: Something that our listeners have contacted us about is Mindle Beach,

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Speaker 2: Why we currently look Middle Beach is a very precious place,

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Speaker 2: especially for Indigenous residents. In the old days, they used

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Speaker 2: like a cemetery. You will run a cemetery and actually

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Speaker 2: dig out or put foot paths on top of the grapes.

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Speaker 2: So when negotiated with the indigenous councils and the lot

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Speaker 2: do it, how can we do it. The last thing

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Speaker 2: uncover some person's remains.

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Speaker 1: So how extensive is the work that you're trying to do.

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Speaker 2: That's a problem we don't know because it was not

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Speaker 2: a real cemetery that was done and everything was recorded.

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Speaker 2: People buried the dead people there because of cultural reasons.

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Speaker 2: the Larachia people were to do it. We don't want to.

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Speaker 1: Affiliate right, so is it the Northern Line Council or

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Speaker 1: Larichie people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, certainly I don't want to desecrate a grave.

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Speaker 1: Yeah okay, yeah, because it looked as though it was

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Speaker 2: It is a lot of these remains are not buried

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Speaker 1: Go on, how have we been able to like to

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Speaker 2: The olds didn't know about it. Us things came to

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Speaker 2: the surface and we start finding the remains. I remember, Kate,

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Speaker 2: Did you know what to do with them? I don't

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Speaker 2: know what's happened? Terrible, I mean, this is what happens.

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Speaker 2: I mean people were here before us, maybe yes, and

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Speaker 2: they're bury people. So we have to be very respectful.

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Speaker 2: The last thing we need is to upset anybody ought

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look it sounds that there's quite a bit

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Speaker 2: Very carefully. We're trying to accelerate us. Not suspossible because

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Speaker 2: we know what we're doing where we're doing it. In

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Speaker 2: others we have to consult the local.

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Speaker 1: People con really quick question hopefully counselor amy Or is

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Speaker 1: she able to go back to meetings at this stage

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Speaker 1: in person? Where are things that with the councilors.

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Speaker 2: Got the twelve months trespassing order that all the stands

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Speaker 2: that it is reviewed at the end of the twelve month.

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Speaker 2: Councilor can still send emails. Councilor on takes part in

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Speaker 2: the meetings by video. Unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that's a good representation of

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Speaker 1: her of her electorate, Like, is she able to do

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Speaker 2: She brought it upon herself. You can't blame anybody else

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Speaker 2: by herself. When council stuff feels threatened by emails and

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Speaker 2: Facebook Unfortunately counselor and use her Facebook used against elected

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Speaker 2: members against stuff. She had a number of Bridge of

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Speaker 2: Code of Conduct complaints from ex councilors, current councilors and stuff.

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Speaker 2: She even published her Facebook the person and the photograph

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Speaker 2: of the person who serves here the order, the person

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Speaker 2: actually doing what council asking, did his wife, his children.

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Speaker 2: So she was found in serious bridge of this conduct

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Speaker 2: of order of a kind of conduct she has been.

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Speaker 1: Is for that.

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Speaker 2: She's been issued letter of therape and speak asked to

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Speaker 2: a capologize to the staff member publicly. Unfortunately, our act

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Speaker 2: is not strong enough here. But we don't have the

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Speaker 2: not us, we don't do it. It's an independent person

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Speaker 2: does it. Or an independent panel can issue fines can

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Speaker 2: in other jurisdictions, they can be issued finds ten thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: can be suspended for a period of time or even

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Speaker 2: can suspend it completely as a matter.

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Speaker 1: Of So what do you think would be about us?

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Speaker 2: Make it clear here we've got thirteen councilors, twelve councils

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Speaker 2: work really really good united. Unfortunately Counselor and decide to

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Speaker 2: go her own way. Good luck to her, But I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you this is not a good way.

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Speaker 1: Well contact Scolus. We are unfortunately going to have to

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Speaker 1: leave it. They're always good to speak with you. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: I have a good morning kid.

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Speaker 1: Thank you