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Speaker 2: You never know, that might change. Yeah, I annoy.
Speaker 1: Someone else highly likely forever. Anyway, Hey, you did a
Speaker 1: road trip, which I thought was boring. I love what
Speaker 1: you do for fun. You know what we should do?
Speaker 1: What let's compare an EV to a diesel car. Well,
Speaker 1: that sounds like a good idea. What do you want
Speaker 1: to do then, I don't know, Let's wink each other
Speaker 1: off in the public toilet on the roads. It sounds
Speaker 1: like a good idea to me. How good's engineering? Oh,
Speaker 1: it's brilliant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that happened.
Speaker 1: So you did a road trap with your good made elbows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was you're in an EV You're in a
Speaker 1: EV six. Yeah, he was in what was it, an
Speaker 1: Audi q FA Diesel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Audi Q five thirty five TDI, which is the
Speaker 3: base model Diesel.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: It still looked good by the way that car, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it still looked It doesn't look like a
Speaker 1: bass shitter.
Speaker 2: It sort of looks okay.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we thought, let's test the theory out with EV's.
Speaker 3: You know they're meant to be really cheap and really not.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, what I wanted to figure out was can you
Speaker 3: actually drive an EV regionally in Australia. I know that
Speaker 3: all the major highways are covered, but what if you
Speaker 3: don't necessarily want to go on a major highway. The
Speaker 3: second part to this challenge was Audi claims that the
Speaker 3: base Q five can do fourteen hundred k's on a tank.
Speaker 3: And what I said to Elbows was, I'm going to
Speaker 3: challenge you to make it to Sydney from Adelaide in
Speaker 3: that Q five on one tank and he is famously
Speaker 3: not very good at being efficient, and I basically.
Speaker 2: Got him to brim the tank. We brimmed the EV
Speaker 2: to one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And brim the tank mean basically phill it so that
Speaker 1: the fuel is like literally at the cap.
Speaker 2: So it's all the way.
Speaker 3: And the reason we do this hashtag engineer is because
Speaker 3: you then brim it at the.
Speaker 1: End and it sounds like a search thing on born.
Speaker 3: Because at the end you can brim it again and
Speaker 3: use the exact number of liters you've used plus the
Speaker 3: kilometers you've traveled to figure out the fuel economy, which
Speaker 3: ended up being different to what the computer said, by the.
Speaker 2: Way, Wow cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, long story short, we did this road trip.
Speaker 1: It was sorry to recap. It was Melbourne to Adelaide,
Speaker 1: Adelaide to Sydney. Oh, Adelaide to Sydney.
Speaker 3: Yeah so, and via the regional route, so via the
Speaker 3: hay planes, so not via the sort of the major highway.
Speaker 2: It takes you closer to Melbourne and then back up
Speaker 2: to Sydney. The reason we did that is I wanted
Speaker 2: to see what the.
Speaker 3: Regional stuff was like and for Elbows to actually make it.
Speaker 2: He decided to travel a bit slower.
Speaker 3: He was doing ninety k's an hour, and the whole
Speaker 3: purpose of this was for him to fail, but also
Speaker 3: for us to see how much time I would spend
Speaker 3: on the road trip having to charge the car compared
Speaker 3: to him just being able to drive constantly. And there
Speaker 3: results ended up being interesting. So I used a site
Speaker 3: called a Better Route Planner. So it's a free website,
Speaker 3: and what it does for evs is it.
Speaker 1: I've gone to a site called better Route too. I
Speaker 1: didn't really find you were rejected. I was rejected.
Speaker 3: So Better Route Planner allows you to type in your destination.
Speaker 3: What it does is it takes into account topology, weather,
Speaker 3: and the real range of the EV to tell you
Speaker 3: when and how often you need to charge. So this
Speaker 3: was really good and basically you.
Speaker 1: Do Tesla have something similar in their software like that.
Speaker 2: Already they do, but only with Tesla charges.
Speaker 3: Yes, so this actually into account any public charging infrastructure.
Speaker 3: So what we found was that I'd have a certain
Speaker 3: number of places I'd need to stop. We decided that
Speaker 3: instead of doing it all in one day, we would
Speaker 3: stop in Hay overnight at a motel.
Speaker 2: I'm trying and.
Speaker 3: Avoid those wherever possible. But anyway, well, what was that like?
Speaker 3: So FIRS class?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Great. I was like, oh, hi, do I get
Speaker 2: an upgrade to a suite or anything? And They're like no, they.
Speaker 1: Put you both in the same room.
Speaker 3: Then they said here's your key, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: so it's a physical key. Interesting was your bedcoin operated?
Speaker 3: So our own troop was going great. I kept sort
Speaker 3: of overtaking Elbows after stopping. Once we got away from
Speaker 3: the main highway where the chargers slowed down a lot,
Speaker 3: he would sort of make up a bit of ground.
Speaker 3: But the biggest issue we had was on our way
Speaker 3: between Oyan and Hay because just they closed the road
Speaker 3: across the Murray, so we had a seventy kilometer detour
Speaker 3: and I would have thrown it all up.
Speaker 2: Well, it was an issue for me because I pulled.
Speaker 3: Out early in in Oion because Elbows had got ahead
Speaker 3: a little bit and we had a plan to stop
Speaker 3: there to eat, but there was nothing open on a
Speaker 3: Monday night, so I sort of stopped charging early. And
Speaker 3: as a result of that, when it came to the detail,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, well, this is going to be
Speaker 3: a slight issue because we're adding seventy k's on which
Speaker 3: I hadn't accounted for. And as it started, as the
Speaker 3: sun started setting, it started getting very cold, and an
Speaker 3: EV driven cold at highway speeds uses much higher amounts
Speaker 3: of battery charge because it has to use the battery
Speaker 3: to keep itself warm to run a heater. So I
Speaker 3: ended up arriving in Hay with one percent battery left.
Speaker 3: It was literally sweating bullet stuff because if I had
Speaker 3: have run out, we would have been screwed. And there
Speaker 3: was only one charger in Hay as well. So again,
Speaker 3: had it have been a long weekend or something and
Speaker 3: not a Monday night, I could have been in.
Speaker 2: A queue of seven other cars.
Speaker 1: I feel like your charger in Hay would have just
Speaker 1: been some woman that lives in a carr just like
Speaker 1: with a dart in the mouth. You did give a
Speaker 1: fucking car. Hey on, man, watch your name paula on, Paul,
Speaker 1: let me just plug your bloody car and anyway after Paul, anyway,
Speaker 1: So we plugged up. Now, this is a slow charger,
Speaker 1: so we had to basically leave the car there for
Speaker 1: an hour and a half while we went to the
Speaker 1: truck stop to have a dirty, dirty meal. Oh God,
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure where you.
Speaker 2: Were going without one to take it a dinner somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So anyway, the rest of the trip with two blokes
Speaker 1: at a track stop, nothing sus in Regionals, Australia.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We ended up in Sydney the following day and we
Speaker 3: filled both cars back up to one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: We sat down and.
Speaker 3: Did the costs and the EV ended up being five
Speaker 3: dollars cheaper than the diesel, which surprised me because I
Speaker 3: thought EV's were going to be significantly cheaper. And keep
Speaker 3: in mind the charge in Hay was free. It was
Speaker 3: the only charger along the way that was actually free,
Speaker 3: so basically meant that had I have paid in Hay,
Speaker 3: the EV would have been more expensive than the diesel
Speaker 3: to run over that trip. Granted, this is a very
Speaker 3: efficient deedl It ended up consuming four point three let
Speaker 3: us per one hundred k and he's doing ninety, but
Speaker 3: in reality he could have done the speed limit and
Speaker 3: filled up in four minutes and potentially done the trip
Speaker 3: in one day if he shared driving with someone else.
Speaker 3: So yeah, look, EV's a getting there, and once we
Speaker 3: do get faster charging rolled out everywhere, it'll be much better.
Speaker 3: But ultimately, with him doing ninety, we ended up arriving
Speaker 3: in Sydney within fifteen minutes of each other, so it
Speaker 3: wasn't actually that big of a deal having to stop,
Speaker 3: which I thought was pretty good.
Speaker 1: We really do have to up our game. I reckon
Speaker 1: on that sort of stuff. It's just my view on
Speaker 1: this whole thing hasn't really changed too much in the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. I've been driving a bad Well.
Speaker 3: You were saying that the bid could probably do Adelaide
Speaker 3: to Sydney without charging.
Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, on a tow truck, I was saying it
Speaker 1: could probably do Sydney to Port More Quarry in one go.
Speaker 1: I reckon it probably could, but in eco mode driving slow,
Speaker 1: air conditioner off, probably throw the luggage away. Maybe if
Speaker 1: they just had a lighter driver instead of me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah. So my point is, I think at the
Speaker 1: moment there's still a brilliant commuting car like that's that's
Speaker 1: where we're at. Unfortunately, city driving charging overnight, it's a
Speaker 1: habitual thing. I just they're not really doing anything. For
Speaker 1: those haters that are claiming, what about the regional bloody
Speaker 1: road trips made in theory, You've kind of proved that wrong.
Speaker 1: It's the same sort of cost, you arrived at the
Speaker 1: same sort of time, all that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 1: I mean, the reliability of charges in the infrastructure we've
Speaker 1: got here at the moment regionally is just not where
Speaker 1: it needs to be.
Speaker 3: Is always more expensive than an equivalent internal combustion car
Speaker 3: as well, so you're paying more upfront. So charging at
Speaker 3: home it's fine because you can you can obviously use
Speaker 3: solar lower rates, blah blah blah. But on a road
Speaker 3: trip they just don't. They make sense. But there's just
Speaker 3: a lot of planning involved. How do I have been
Speaker 3: with the family in that car and it weighed more
Speaker 3: and all that sort of stuff. I would have had
Speaker 3: to probably slow down to sixty k's an hour on
Speaker 3: a one hundred hundred and ten kN hour road to
Speaker 3: actually make it, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because I can't just stop anywhere.
Speaker 1: And when you go like a screaming kid in the car, yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone knows. Like now, when you want to do a
Speaker 1: road trip with a kid, you kind of have a plan,
Speaker 1: but all those sort of plans go out the window.
Speaker 1: So I imagine that on top of doing something like this,
Speaker 1: I reckon it would be a friggin nightmare. But if
Speaker 1: you've done it yourself, let us know how you went.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm key to hear from people. I mean, do
Speaker 3: you drive an EV? Do you do long distance drives?
Speaker 3: I was looking at the comments on our article at
Speaker 3: car expert dot com that a you, and I noticed
Speaker 3: some people, like one guy said he's driven his Model
Speaker 3: by three thousand k's across the middle of Australia had
Speaker 3: no issues with charging.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, but that's if you're happy to.
Speaker 3: Charge for twenty four hours on a ten amps soccer
Speaker 3: at a caravan park. Yeah, which you were, well, but
Speaker 3: I mean it's just that kind of argument is just stupid.
Speaker 3: You can charge an EV anywhere, that's right, But I
Speaker 3: don't have twenty four hours to spare in between my trips,
Speaker 3: especially if you have a family.
Speaker 2: So yeah, anyway, what was.
Speaker 1: The lady's name here charged up your car?
Speaker 2: Was it Doris? Donna? Donna?
Speaker 1: Yes, because it was Donna. You want a chicken schnitzel
Speaker 1: while your late you go, Donna?
Speaker 3: Hey, Gordy, do you drive a Hyundai IX thirty five
Speaker 3: manufactured between twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen. No, Paul, I
Speaker 3: actually don't okay if you do, don't park it in
Speaker 3: a garage, okay, because it might catch on fire.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a little extra. They call those little extras
Speaker 1: easter eggs. When you don't know a fee, when you
Speaker 1: just find out a feature about your car. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: this one just like explodes.
Speaker 2: In the middle of the night campfire. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 2: yan Day and I think Kira.
Speaker 3: As well doing quite me on that are having issues
Speaker 3: with the ABS modules in number of their cars. And
Speaker 3: the latest here is the IX thirty five, which was
Speaker 3: the predecessor to the Tucson, where it may short circuit
Speaker 3: when components are exposed to moisture, and it can result
Speaker 3: in a vehicle fire even when the vehicle is switched off,
Speaker 3: so it doesn't affect the breaking system, but a vehicle
Speaker 3: fire may increase the risk of serious injury or death
Speaker 3: to vehicle occupants, other road uses and bystanders.
Speaker 2: You came up with that report, and Yanda is advising.
Speaker 3: Owners to park in an open space and away from
Speaker 3: flammable materials and structures. Therefore, don't park your ixit vibe
Speaker 3: in a garage, but on the street.
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't leave your Samsung Galaxy phone in there too.
Speaker 1: From that era, because that'll probably explode as well.
Speaker 2: I mean, how does this happen?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't understand how a car can
Speaker 1: explode when it's got zero electricity going through it or anything.
Speaker 2: Well, I think this is the worst case.
Speaker 3: So the saying they sold nineteen five hundred of these
Speaker 3: in between that period, I highly doubt all of them
Speaker 3: are going to do this. But you might have a
Speaker 3: cup all that have that might be that might reside
Speaker 3: by the ocean or some other area, or I might
Speaker 3: have moisture content that really sort of helps this short circuit.
Speaker 3: And the second you get that short circuit, there's enough
Speaker 3: sort of energy built up in there to start a
Speaker 3: small fire which then becomes a big fire.
Speaker 2: That's just not great.
Speaker 1: That is they were They weren't a bad car. They yeah,
Speaker 1: they did start to this issue. Yes, aside from this
Speaker 1: little hoo ha. Imagine if you're the proud owner of
Speaker 1: I X thirty five and then you just sort of
Speaker 1: wake up in the middle of the night and you're like,
Speaker 1: what the hell is that said?
Speaker 2: Did you leave the toasta on Donald?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 2: A barbecue?
Speaker 3: I can smell that the house burned down Now that's
Speaker 3: the sound of us losing our memories.
Speaker 2: Gordy.
Speaker 3: Did you know that as they sell more EV's, the
Speaker 3: economies of scale will make batteries become cheaper, and then
Speaker 3: EV's become cheaper.
Speaker 1: Yes, Paul, I had a rough idea.
Speaker 2: No, that's not true. Okay, that's that's not true.
Speaker 3: EV battery prices have increased this year for the first time.
Speaker 2: Oh so what they're doing is the exact.
Speaker 3: Opposite of what everyone expected them to do, which is
Speaker 3: go down in price. That's on the back of rising
Speaker 3: material costs and inflation.
Speaker 1: And parts and bloody chips and all this kind of crab,
Speaker 1: this weird story that is getting peddled out.
Speaker 3: Yea. So that is why at the moment we're seeing
Speaker 3: the cost of EV's go up across the board.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting.
Speaker 3: I was having a look at a graph that Bloomberg
Speaker 3: published and it showed that in twenty thirteen, the sort
Speaker 3: of cost per killer what hour of battery was something
Speaker 3: like seven hundred dollars, So it was quite expensive to
Speaker 3: buy an EV in twenty thirteen. In twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: it was its lowest price at one hundred and forty
Speaker 3: dollars per kilo what hour Now it's gone up to
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty one, and it looks like that
Speaker 3: trend is set to increase as.
Speaker 2: We move on.
Speaker 3: So evs are going to become more expensive before they
Speaker 3: become cheaper, and some of the European nations and now
Speaker 3: mandating evs to just.
Speaker 2: Be standard stuff, and it's like, well, who's going to
Speaker 2: be able to afford these?
Speaker 1: It's frustrating. It's a frust it's a frustrating piece of
Speaker 1: news because I feel like we're in a good place
Speaker 1: with EV's. They're starting to kind of leak into the
Speaker 1: mainstream a lot, and then you get stuff like this
Speaker 1: that kind of sets it back. Is this time to
Speaker 1: commercialize hydrogen a bit more?
Speaker 3: Maybe potentially, I mean people complain about the efficiency of hydrogen,
Speaker 3: but ultimately you need less battery pack, which is getting expensive.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hydrogen isn't as efficient, but if you're using green
Speaker 3: energy to create it then and it's.
Speaker 1: Less waiting time at the pump, so to speak.
Speaker 2: Yep, you don't have to meet Donna on your road trips.
Speaker 1: Well, that's actually that's a negative. I just want to
Speaker 1: meet She's a tourist attraction.
Speaker 2: You want to throw a leg over.
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, you've got the famous buck and caves
Speaker 1: and then you've got the famous Buck and Donna. Silly,
Speaker 1: what is that? You know when you drive through Regional
Speaker 1: Australia and you get like the giant Prawn and you
Speaker 1: get the giant Kuala and the big jam or something,
Speaker 1: then you just get Donna and she's just sitting on
Speaker 1: a toilet on the road side and just you can
Speaker 1: go in there. It was what you just like your
Speaker 1: kids like, Mom, is that the dog in the tucker Box?
Speaker 1: And Dad's like, I don't know, but to be safe
Speaker 1: if I'm going to enter through the gift shop.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is the worst episode. This is
Speaker 2: the best episode ever.
Speaker 1: By the way, we accept fan art, So if anyone
Speaker 1: likes to draw a picture of Donna on the Tucker Box,
Speaker 1: send it to us. We'll check it up on that Instagram.
Speaker 1: Donna in the Tacker Box. Sam Hey for GT Mark four,
Speaker 1: Holy shit balls?
Speaker 2: How good is that? So good?
Speaker 1: For G four looks like a almost looks like a
Speaker 1: futuristic McLaren.
Speaker 3: Well it's it sort of pays homage to the Lamon
Speaker 3: winning GT. So this is sort of where they where
Speaker 3: they've pulled it from. I just think that this is Yeah,
Speaker 3: it is. It is such a cool looking thing. How
Speaker 3: good is that spoiler?
Speaker 1: It's so next level? Yeah, like everything from the lights
Speaker 1: to the body kit on the look at that dining
Speaker 1: board sitting up at the back of it. Jesus.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So they're talking price one point seven million US dollars.
Speaker 3: You have to apply for it, sixty seven of them.
Speaker 3: But the cool thing is they're basically modifying the three
Speaker 3: point five liter twin turbo Eco boost engine that it
Speaker 3: comes with, which is a similar version to the engine
Speaker 3: that's fitted to the F one fifty Raptor. They're saying
Speaker 3: it should produce almost six hundred kilowatts of power, which
Speaker 3: is insane. The regular road going version is just under
Speaker 3: five hundred. What's a power still, Yeah, I kind of.
Speaker 1: I mean they're good, they're great, but they're not. They're
Speaker 1: pretty good.
Speaker 2: No, But the thing is that weighs barely anything.
Speaker 3: So it's got a full carbon body and it's a
Speaker 3: lot of downforce, so it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we've got a friend of ours and the States
Speaker 3: has the road going version of this, and it is
Speaker 3: an unreal car. It sounds so good. It looks incredible.
Speaker 3: It is, Yeah, it is just something else.
Speaker 1: The other thing about Americans too, if they do a supercar,
Speaker 1: it's always very bold and brash. Yeah, there's something almost
Speaker 1: a little bit European about this.
Speaker 3: I just love the fact that they're doing it because
Speaker 3: at the moment everyone's sort of giving up on this
Speaker 3: type of thing, and I love the fact that they're going, no, no,
Speaker 3: we're still going to do this and just really really
Speaker 3: get stuck into it. So I think it is a
Speaker 3: sensational looking thing. What's this limited to sixty seven? Sixty
Speaker 3: seven and it's track only so you can't drive it
Speaker 3: on the road.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you make of you know, like high
Speaker 1: end companies like Porsche and Ferrari, where they always have
Speaker 1: when they're releasing a car, for instance, it could be
Speaker 1: a special edition whatever, but they pretty much know the
Speaker 1: clients they're going to give it to, Yeah, before it
Speaker 1: even goes up for order.
Speaker 3: This is the same thing, and actually quite funny. I
Speaker 3: don't know if anyone is aware of this, but when
Speaker 3: the AMGGT Black Series was being launched, if you wanted
Speaker 3: to buy one, they had an application form, and on
Speaker 3: that form they wanted your social media details, so they
Speaker 3: only really gave people allocations if they were like big
Speaker 3: on social media, which.
Speaker 1: That blows when you think about it. They're the people
Speaker 1: who are most likely to go bust at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, They're and more likely to
Speaker 1: disgrace themselves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this will be the same thing. And
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at the expression of interest. So they're
Speaker 3: asking for name, surname, email, phone number, location, and then
Speaker 3: they want to know about other Ford or multimatic road
Speaker 3: or race vehicles in your collection. So I think they'll
Speaker 3: probably just stick with people who have amazing car collections here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you're out. I guess I'm out.
Speaker 3: Well, I would definitely make mention of my V eight
Speaker 3: Commodore's sure.
Speaker 1: Sure, how's that going? Is that still collecting dust in
Speaker 1: the corner?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously, maybe you could just show off your portfolio
Speaker 1: of NFTs and bitcoin. That was a great idea.
Speaker 2: That'd be a shoe in.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I know guys who have that
Speaker 1: sort of deal with Porsche, for instance, I really do. No,
Speaker 1: I've witnessed it firsthand, and what they do is I've
Speaker 1: seen warehouses, walked in them, sat in these cars that
Speaker 1: are so rare. Basically, what it is is these high
Speaker 1: end execs they're given access to buy could be special
Speaker 1: edition nine to eleven of some sorts. Right, they'll take
Speaker 1: it to this warehouse and they'll stack it with ten,
Speaker 1: twelve of their other cars that is not part of
Speaker 1: their main collection. Right, So these are the rarest of
Speaker 1: rare under super kind of security purposes. And god, I
Speaker 1: know we've just come out of legal troubles and I
Speaker 1: don't want to get into it again. But arguably what
Speaker 1: that is is there. They call that their divorce account,
Speaker 1: So it's stuff that when they go through a divorce.
Speaker 1: It's somehow I don't know how, but it's somehow untrackable
Speaker 1: assets that was that is worth a lot of money.
Speaker 1: So it's arguably fifteen to twenty million dollars worth of
Speaker 1: cars easily sitting right there that can't be traced. Amazing, right,
Speaker 1: I'm doing choir, Yeah, babe, it should be divorcing you.
Speaker 1: It won't be the other way around.
Speaker 2: In one of those yeah how's your young day NFT going?
Speaker 1: I feel like you're empt.
Speaker 2: It's on fire at the moment.
Speaker 1: Yes, Gage, it's in Donna's garage.
Speaker 2: God a lot of things are in Donna's garage. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1: Are we ready? Are we ready for the review?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's do it.
Speaker 1: Oh is that where we're going now? Now that we're
Speaker 1: a new kind of we've got a new name, We're
Speaker 1: a different sort of a podcast. Now we're all grown
Speaker 1: up and professional and looking sweet. You've dropped your what
Speaker 1: is iconic?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, there you are.
Speaker 5: The twenty twenty two Forward Ranger. Prices start from fifty
Speaker 5: three thousand, six hundred eighty dollars for the double camp
Speaker 5: pick up four by four to the range topping Raptor
Speaker 5: at eighty six thousand, seven hundred ninety dollars plus on
Speaker 5: road costs.
Speaker 1: I am so impressed with these cars, so impressed. And
Speaker 1: I guess this is kind of a double of Forward Ranger,
Speaker 1: WildTrack and Raptor. You know. One thing I will say
Speaker 1: is one of the reasons why we actually started this
Speaker 1: podcast was like car journalists would piss me off. Everyone
Speaker 1: was lying to here, all the cars of the year
Speaker 1: and best affordable. It's all bullshit, it's all crap. But
Speaker 1: News Corp threw down one of the more accurate ones
Speaker 1: I've seen it in quite a long time where their
Speaker 1: top three was Model hy Ford Ranger and bydo three.
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. There you going to make sure
Speaker 2: we cover all bases.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was interesting one two out of those
Speaker 1: three are electric cars. I've said to you many times
Speaker 1: how impressed I am with the with the Ranger. It
Speaker 1: is so well engineered. It's such a great car. I
Speaker 1: hate to suck up to Paul so who will engineered,
Speaker 1: but it's just put together so well.
Speaker 2: And that's got to the point where you bought one, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: And the thing is as well that this car is
Speaker 3: a vehicle that was designed and engineered here in Australia.
Speaker 1: So Forward by yourself, did you have something to do
Speaker 1: with just by the way.
Speaker 2: So you know, Forward has enough.
Speaker 3: You know, faith in Ford Australia to manage that program
Speaker 3: and including Everest, and these vehicles are sold in hundreds
Speaker 3: of markets globally. It spawned the Amorock, which I'll be
Speaker 3: driving soon, that shares a platform with it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they really have gone to town on.
Speaker 3: I'm just putting as much effort into this as they
Speaker 3: can and for me, the Raptor takes it to the
Speaker 3: next level. They kind of went from the previous gym,
Speaker 3: which is a two leter sort of very slow but
Speaker 3: sort of fun over jumps and stuff into into this
Speaker 3: new one, which is a twin turbo V six petrol.
Speaker 3: It absolutely hammers uses a lot of fuel, but that's okay. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I bought one, so I actually collected it recently from
Speaker 3: Medeki Ford in Port mcquarie.
Speaker 2: What happened was, after.
Speaker 3: We did the initial sort of predevelopment drive, I put
Speaker 3: out on social that I wanted to buy one, and
Speaker 3: when the pricing came out, I was like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: fine with that.
Speaker 2: I want to buy one, of.
Speaker 1: Course, ent that oh what's that? Any hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: Fun dealers can give me a car on the first allocation,
Speaker 3: I'll order it through you. And my preference was a
Speaker 3: regional dealer. So when George Medek reached out to me,
Speaker 3: here we go.
Speaker 1: I hope you're listening to George. Jesus paid off dividends.
Speaker 1: Where's my raptor, George? Well, no, here's my raptor well mcquarie.
Speaker 2: For George, it.
Speaker 3: Was only interested in people that are known. So yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Have got I've got a photos now mate. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: your still you're using yours? Yeah, back in the day
Speaker 1: when you were tanning yourself with a bottle of soy sauce.
Speaker 2: It's my European olive skills.
Speaker 1: That is really not what it is. That's long gone.
Speaker 3: So he reached out and said, I'll give you my
Speaker 3: personal allocation, which he'd ordered like a year prior, and
Speaker 3: I said thank you, and I did a road trip
Speaker 3: to Port mccraye to pick it up. They were great
Speaker 3: to deal with, and what we did was we shot
Speaker 3: a video explaining what pre delivery is because when you
Speaker 3: get charge a dealer delivery fair.
Speaker 2: Look at it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, what are you charging me two grand for?
Speaker 3: And two grand is is what you should be paying.
Speaker 3: Any more than that, you're getting ripped off. But basically,
Speaker 3: the dealer delivery fee covers transport from the boat to
Speaker 3: the dealer, depending on the car brands Summer obviously more
Speaker 3: expensive than others, depending on where the dealer is.
Speaker 1: What's interesting too, is like, yeah, I was going to
Speaker 1: say that because it's too great, and that's going from
Speaker 1: what arguably Sydney.
Speaker 2: Depends, which.
Speaker 3: So it covers that cost. Then what Medeki Ford does.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if this is the same for
Speaker 3: all dealers. I just looked at their process. They basically
Speaker 3: do a sort of all points inspection under the car.
Speaker 3: It goes up on a hoist, they check all the switches,
Speaker 3: the USB ports, all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: They do a wheel alignment as well.
Speaker 3: My car was slightly out on the front right wheel,
Speaker 3: so they fix that up. It then goes out on
Speaker 3: a test drive and then it gets a wash and
Speaker 3: a detail. So for each car, it's basically a four
Speaker 3: or five hour process to get it all done sort
Speaker 3: of properly. And that is what you're paying for now.
Speaker 3: That is the part that dealers have discretion over. So
Speaker 3: when you basically go in there, they won't charge you
Speaker 3: more than the recommended retail price and a new car,
Speaker 3: but they can charge you more on dealer delivery. So
Speaker 3: if you are seeing exorbitant fees on dealer delivery, that's
Speaker 3: where they're making their margin off you.
Speaker 1: F Yi, f yi, how's it going? How's it going
Speaker 1: in the k Enjoy it great?
Speaker 2: I love it? Yeah, it is really fun.
Speaker 3: I love the sound, I love just everything I love
Speaker 3: on the steering wheel, he can set the steering feel,
Speaker 3: the exhaust with dampers like you can really just customize everything,
Speaker 3: muck around with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really cool. I love it.
Speaker 1: I genuinely enjoyed it. To me, the sweet spot though
Speaker 1: in the range was the Wild Track to the point
Speaker 1: where I put down in order myself, not a Mediki Ford, George,
Speaker 1: if you want to help a bro out, we've mentioned
Speaker 1: your name quite a few times, Badeki Ford, Paul cry George,
Speaker 1: Wild Track good, thank you anyway. But for me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: getting back to the Raptor though it is you've got
Speaker 1: this ceramic gray one yepen pinted. I had the I
Speaker 1: don't know what color, fire engine red. I like to
Speaker 1: call it code.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: I loved it, loved it a little bit. It stands
Speaker 1: out and it's got like that real American sort of red,
Speaker 1: like that kind of it's just a bloody red truck
Speaker 1: vibe about it, and it really is. It's a chunky car.
Speaker 1: It's really set up really well. It's just a brilliant
Speaker 1: car from start to finish. It's a car you can
Speaker 1: obviously daily the thing that got me into this, and
Speaker 1: the same with the WildTrack. I've got this feeling as well.
Speaker 1: But it is the sort of car where you can
Speaker 1: switch it on and you can go from one end
Speaker 1: of Australia to the other quite comfortably. You feel like
Speaker 1: this car is capable as anything. It's really well put together.
Speaker 1: There's nothing cheap about it. It's everything just works in cohesion.
Speaker 1: And they've put a lot of thought into everything about this,
Speaker 1: like the interior, just little things like you could rest
Speaker 1: your arm on the side of the door and it
Speaker 1: kind of looks like from a distance, I guess it
Speaker 1: looks like a leatherish kind of material, but if you
Speaker 1: get up close, it's like a squidgy kind of wet
Speaker 1: suit that everything can be wiped down, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, it's just kind of everything feels quality. Stitching, steering,
Speaker 1: driver position. It doesn't feel I mean, for me, I
Speaker 1: thought I was going to be driving an absolute monster
Speaker 1: of a car. Sorry, but it doesn't feel like a
Speaker 1: monster car. It just it feels like you're easy card
Speaker 1: to drive around.
Speaker 3: I like the safety teke as well. They've got a
Speaker 3: feature with the blind spot monitor. You get into the
Speaker 3: length of the trailer and then the blind spot monitor
Speaker 3: will take into account the length of the trailer, so
Speaker 3: when someone comes into the blind spot of the trailer,
Speaker 3: you're not accidentally going to merge into them. And yeah,
Speaker 3: they all of the cars as well can be optioned
Speaker 3: or come standard with an integrated brake controller as well,
Speaker 3: so you don't need to get that fitted on your own,
Speaker 3: which costs money.
Speaker 1: How do you go driving into a shopping center? Do
Speaker 1: you have to squaw? I had to screw the unscrew
Speaker 1: the aerial, But I mean, I think, what's the deal
Speaker 1: because the sharkfin aerial will be fine. But that Yeah,
Speaker 1: but well then you've got that big thing that sticks.
Speaker 2: Out, that that thing bends. That's not an issue. So
Speaker 2: you'll find with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's more just if you're reversing into a hard object.
Speaker 3: They're a bit stupid, mind you. A wraptor caught on
Speaker 3: fire the other day. I saw a video of a
Speaker 3: white one burning to the ground. And then yeah, there's
Speaker 3: been a lot of issues with drive shaft vibrations and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, so in the V sixers, So I'll
Speaker 3: be keeping an eye on it just to see how
Speaker 3: they go with reliability.
Speaker 2: Hopefully they're not shit.
Speaker 1: See how you go with that. The wild track was
Speaker 1: was the same. I think everything's well put together. The
Speaker 1: interior is great on it.
Speaker 2: The V six diesel is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I loved it. It doesn't feel like too
Speaker 1: noisy and like Radley kind of thing. It just feels
Speaker 1: like what they've put up the front is something very capable.
Speaker 1: I put an order into and I got quoted October
Speaker 1: next year, so I'm not liking that about it.
Speaker 2: It's only a year away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think those times will come down, and I
Speaker 3: suggest you try a regional dealer as well.
Speaker 1: What's his name from Medickie for George, Hey bro, I'm
Speaker 1: in Sydney. I mean he's even quicker, bloody trip.
Speaker 2: Well, when you're driving there in your BYD, I'll drive there.
Speaker 1: In the BYD and pick it up.
Speaker 2: I'll pick up the fuck.
Speaker 1: Don't you dare say that about the by D. That's
Speaker 1: one of the greatest electric cars of the year. It is.
Speaker 1: It's a good car, according to News Corp, which I
Speaker 1: think they I think they did it. I think they
Speaker 1: did okay this year.
Speaker 2: But look they gave the win to the Model. Y Yeah,
Speaker 2: they did the.
Speaker 1: Model Why god God, that's an ugly looking Although my
Speaker 1: brother in law shout out to him. He bought a
Speaker 1: brand Newie and he wrapped it in Matt black, which
Speaker 1: I thought was. I was like, oh okay, and then
Speaker 1: I saw it and it's not half shit. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's actually, to be honest, it's probably the best thing
Speaker 1: you can do to that car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, aside from not buy it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it looks it looked way better with that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. And they'd gone to the effort of
Speaker 1: I think they that the t logo was in glass.
Speaker 2: Glass black, just to make it stand out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kid kill all touches actually, just very quickly
Speaker 3: on elbows. He bought one and sold it after five days.
Speaker 2: He hated the ride.
Speaker 3: It was terrible, so I told him not to get
Speaker 3: it with the twenties. Even the nineteens of the ride
Speaker 3: is terrible. The twenties it is unbearably bad.
Speaker 1: So look, it's it can be arguably it is a
Speaker 1: little bit stiff, but then you have a terrible case
Speaker 1: of hemorrhoids.
Speaker 2: Correct, So yeah, Dot, thank.
Speaker 1: Donna for that little gem and a few other little
Speaker 1: things she left behind you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that Paul Donna I saw?
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm just ringing to say of boon of the doctor.
Speaker 1: And it looks like you've copped a dose anyway, miss
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Speaker 2: Hope not? I wouldn't want to be a real dope
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Speaker 2: A lot of things are in Donna's garra, Yeah, a lot,
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: I remember when she gave birth to her third kid.
Speaker 1: Crazily enough, it wasn't the biggest thing that could come
Speaker 1: out of it.
Speaker 2: Oh God,