Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Kate Torbert and I currently feel like I'm in a
Speaker 1: Zambrero's food comber. I'm Amy Torbert and I've had to
Speaker 1: tell my partner to stop banging on the wall because
Speaker 1: we were recording this podcast. He's doing some work stuff.
Speaker 1: Just to clarify, I'm Sophie Torbert and I officially don't
Speaker 1: have any iron in my body, which is a bit
Speaker 1: of a weird flex. Yeah, and I feel like you
Speaker 1: need to go into that a bit more because I
Speaker 1: think people may be concerned for your health and well being. Well,
Speaker 1: my doctor did say, are you irritable and very tired?
Speaker 1: And yes, yes, was the Espace, Sophie's business partner. I
Speaker 1: can confirm yes. Well, so basically I've been vegetarian since
Speaker 1: that was fourteen, so that's almost twenty years. And how
Speaker 1: crazy is this? So Sophie's blood test results came back
Speaker 1: because you were actually looking into your cholesterol levels, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they came back fine, and they said, actually your minus
Speaker 1: six on the iron levels. You have no iron in
Speaker 1: your body. Yeah, so that was a bit of a shock.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've always had very low iron, but I
Speaker 1: haven't really taken it that seriously. Your mood last night
Speaker 1: makes sense because so I've actually unfriended us on Facebook
Speaker 1: last night. She was so annoyed at us, and I
Speaker 1: think anger and frustration is probably one of the symptoms
Speaker 1: of low iron. Yeah, well, I am now on a
Speaker 1: six week course of very intense iron tablets and if
Speaker 1: it doesn't go well, I have to have an iron infusion.
Speaker 1: So well, I'll keep you updated with my health dramas
Speaker 1: at the moment. Yes. Well. On today's show, El Darby's
Speaker 1: official name change ahead of her Ibtha nuptials, Kristin Cavaleri
Speaker 1: and her ex j Cutler find themselves in the middle
Speaker 1: of a high profile podcast feud and the Sammy Robinson
Speaker 1: and Jordan Simmi update no one wanted to hear, but
Speaker 1: first Ruby Tuesday. Matthews has done an absolute three sixty
Speaker 1: in terms of relatability. So in the past, she's been
Speaker 1: renowned for holding up a flight because she went out
Speaker 1: to eat oysters. This time, though, the Byron Bay influencer
Speaker 1: is now posting some very relatable content and we're here
Speaker 1: for it. So did you go seat this. On Monday,
Speaker 1: she shared how she was forced to use her toddler's
Speaker 1: towel because she forgot to put a load of washing
Speaker 1: on and she was joking. She's like, I got the towel,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, who didn't do this? And then she
Speaker 1: realized it was her own job. Sadly, I can relate
Speaker 1: to this too often because quite often Brandon and I
Speaker 1: don't do the washing and we have to use items
Speaker 1: of our clothing that have been left in the bar
Speaker 1: to dry ourselves. So what kind of items of clothes
Speaker 1: use Brandon's old T shirt or something you've used that
Speaker 1: hasn't prompted you to think maybe I need to actually start.
Speaker 1: I've actually bought two beautiful, like king sized towels now
Speaker 1: that we have been in a much better routine, because
Speaker 1: before we had the real shitty came up like tiny towels.
Speaker 1: Why are you sharing a towel at one stame? We
Speaker 1: have shared shirt drinks. I mean, maybe I'm too relatable,
Speaker 1: but unrelatable I find that quite unrelatable. I mean reason
Speaker 1: I both have our own towels and we managed to
Speaker 1: hang them up so we can use them in a
Speaker 1: bathroom of people having to dry themselves with like a handtowel.
Speaker 1: I've done that before. You're serious. Do you know what's
Speaker 1: a real humbling moment when you do get out of
Speaker 1: the shower and you step on your bath mat and
Speaker 1: it's soaking wet. Oh, that's horrible. The inspired unemployed have
Speaker 1: been talking about bath matt etiquette because they were saying
Speaker 1: that what you meant to do is dry yourself in
Speaker 1: the shower so you don't flood the bathroom with water.
Speaker 1: I've done that before as well. But I think they
Speaker 1: did actually point out as well that they don't actually
Speaker 1: like getting out of the shower because their bath mat
Speaker 1: is always wet as well. Sophie, we had a moment
Speaker 1: here at the Hula Media office where you were disgusted
Speaker 1: in my bath mat. So of course we have a
Speaker 1: home office. Oh so Dale has been working from home,
Speaker 1: but he's actually working out in the shed, so he's
Speaker 1: got a business partner who's here all the time. And
Speaker 1: Sophie ran in just like Amy, you need to take
Speaker 1: out that bath mat because Louis does not want to
Speaker 1: see that. In here, it's discussing it's feral. On the
Speaker 1: topic of adulting, you had a bit of a humbling
Speaker 1: moment on the weekend when you went to a friend's house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I visited a friend and they've just moved into
Speaker 1: this amazing new house. And this house is dead set
Speaker 1: the cleanest house I've ever been into. And this person
Speaker 1: has a child. I heard they were following Dale around
Speaker 1: with a mop slash vacuum because you had dirt dropping off.
Speaker 1: The only dirt in the house was the dirt coming
Speaker 1: off Dale's shoes. But they gave me a tour of
Speaker 1: their new house, and so I went into every single room.
Speaker 1: They had about three bathrooms. It was spotless. It was
Speaker 1: like a show home. So they didn't even have a
Speaker 1: junk room. So I even went into the laundry and
Speaker 1: there wasn't even a laundry basket full of clothes. It
Speaker 1: was just spotless. I was looking for the moniker from
Speaker 1: friend's cupboard. You know how she's the tidiest one on Friends,
Speaker 1: but she even has a junk cupboard. I couldn't find it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like these this house was next level tidy.
Speaker 1: See that is my goal in life, because I got
Speaker 1: onto the organizational tiktoks, and I would just froth having
Speaker 1: a house like that where everything has a place. My
Speaker 1: house is far from that. At the moment, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to come home and just throw out half of
Speaker 1: my belongings. It was so funny last night. I was
Speaker 1: just cleaning the kitchen and Dale was just love forget me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel ashamed. That's the funny thing because,
Speaker 1: as I said, I've been watching a lot of organizational
Speaker 1: tiktoks and the number one rule is get rid of
Speaker 1: your staff so everything has a place to put it
Speaker 1: back in.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jasica, I'm telling you from someone who used to
Speaker 2: cheat on her boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Those are signs of him cheating, but doesn't mean that you.
Speaker 2: Should be treated like Jessica.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but like you need to like get out
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: There are so many guys I've there.
Speaker 1: There, my guy that I've ever been with, his streating
Speaker 1: me like every guy I've every Rumors have been swirling
Speaker 1: since reality star Kristin Cavaliery and NFL player Jay Cutler
Speaker 1: filed for divorce over two and a half years ago.
Speaker 1: Cheating rumors in particular have followed Jay after Kristen cited
Speaker 1: inappropriate marital conduct in her divorce papers. Now things came
Speaker 1: to a head this month when the former couple separately
Speaker 1: appeared on feuding podcasts Call Her Daddy and Sophia with
Speaker 1: an F Now, Kay, can you tell us some background
Speaker 1: about their relationship. Yeah, So Kristin and Jay got married
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. So Kristin had just left the Heels
Speaker 1: and she was twenty six years old. So the pair
Speaker 1: have three children together, and they actually made the decision
Speaker 1: not to have their identity shown on social media until
Speaker 1: they actually approved, which I totally respect. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's fantastic and it's something that we don't really see
Speaker 1: a lot of. So in twenty eighteen, the couple appeared
Speaker 1: together on reality show Very Cavaliery, which showed a bit
Speaker 1: of an insight into their marriage, and basically the general
Speaker 1: consensus was that Jay was a bit of a dick
Speaker 1: on the show. Did you guys watch the show? I've
Speaker 1: never seen it, Yes, So I saw it. I watched
Speaker 1: probably the whole I think it was season one. He
Speaker 1: didn't seem like a dick, but it was just obvious
Speaker 1: that he wasn't into the reality show like it seemed
Speaker 1: like the show was to keep Kristin happy, and he
Speaker 1: was very much this sort of retired footy player who
Speaker 1: just liked being outdoors. They probably had the cash from
Speaker 1: the show, but that was about it. So, so can
Speaker 1: you tell us what happened on Caller Daddy, because that's
Speaker 1: really what initiated all of this. I'm going to start
Speaker 1: by outline the date that this episode aired, So it
Speaker 1: was on the third of August, and that will be
Speaker 1: important later on. So the episode was entitled so you
Speaker 1: want to Date an Athlete? And many listeners of call
Speaker 1: Her Daddy will know that Alex Cooper has dated her
Speaker 1: fair share of athletes. So she and Kristin got on
Speaker 1: really well, chatting about how Kristen bagged a number of
Speaker 1: athletes and also about her time on Lagona Beach, and
Speaker 1: Alex also asked some questions about her highly publicized divorce
Speaker 1: from Jay Cutler. So when Alex asked Kristen about her divorce,
Speaker 1: Kristin was really respectful and pointed out that she's very
Speaker 1: careful of what she says about Jay because he is
Speaker 1: the father to her children, and she said that she
Speaker 1: knows how media headlines can start in saying that she
Speaker 1: did say that their relationship was toxic and there were
Speaker 1: a number of red flags along the way, here's what
Speaker 1: she said.
Speaker 2: So here's my only thing. Because I have three kids
Speaker 2: with him, I'm very careful about what I say. If
Speaker 2: you and I didn't have microphones in front of us,
Speaker 2: i'd fucking tell you. But you know that's the dad
Speaker 2: and my oldest googles us now, and I just want
Speaker 2: to be very careful. My mom never said anything bad
Speaker 2: about my dad growing up, and I really respected that,
Speaker 2: and I want to be that kind of mom. And
Speaker 2: even if I don't say anything, the headlines will say
Speaker 2: I've fucking trashed them somehow. So I just you know,
Speaker 2: it was toxic, I think, period, end of story. That's
Speaker 2: all I kind of need to say.
Speaker 1: See, I'm surprised that this is all coming out because
Speaker 1: I was quite impressed by the way she spoke about Jay.
Speaker 1: I thought she was quite respectful. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: her intentions are to be respectful for her children, which
Speaker 1: is very admirable, but it seems like she only touched
Speaker 1: on a few things that were already leaked in the
Speaker 1: divorce papers. Anyway, I felt like the same way Cake,
Speaker 1: because when you hear that someone like Kristen is going
Speaker 1: to be on call her daddy, I almost felt like
Speaker 1: she was going to be giving some juicy gossip about
Speaker 1: the breakup. Well, one bit of goss that she did
Speaker 1: drop was that she actually called off her engagement to
Speaker 1: Jay in twenty eleven, and she said that she cited
Speaker 1: a couple of red flags, so she sort of eluded
Speaker 1: that she should have taken more note of those red flags,
Speaker 1: So that was quite interesting. She also said that it
Speaker 1: took her a number of years to actually pull the
Speaker 1: trigger and end the marriage. And she said that nothing
Speaker 1: major happened at the end, so she didn't touch on
Speaker 1: any of those cheating rumors that have been flying around.
Speaker 1: I just got the vibe that they were really different people.
Speaker 1: I just, yeah, she seemed very unhappy in the relationship.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, if you're married
Speaker 1: to an athlete who was constantly traveling, you sort of
Speaker 1: lose sight of your relationship. You probably forget who they are,
Speaker 1: you grow apart. I don't know if it was that.
Speaker 1: I just felt more so that maybe since he retired
Speaker 1: from football and they spent time with each other, they
Speaker 1: realized that they had nothing in common. Because on the show,
Speaker 1: it was so clear that they were very different. They
Speaker 1: had very different personalities, Kristin seemed very social and outgoing
Speaker 1: and bubbly, whereas he was more reserved and he wanted
Speaker 1: to go hunting, and they just didn't really seem like
Speaker 1: they were very well suited. To be fair, I think
Speaker 1: Alex Cooper did a very good job at probing Kristin
Speaker 1: for more comments because she did the disclaimer that she
Speaker 1: was not going to be making further comments. But you
Speaker 1: could really see that Alex was jerking in overdrive to
Speaker 1: get a few tidbits that Kristin did drop along the way. Now,
Speaker 1: just over a week later, on August eleventh, Call Her
Speaker 1: Daddy's rival podcast, Sophia with an F released an episode
Speaker 1: with Kristen's ex husband, Jay So to bring listeners up
Speaker 1: to speed. Alex Cooper and Sophia Franklin. They both used
Speaker 1: to host the Call Her Daddy podcast, and the drama
Speaker 1: between the two of them allegedly happened when Sophia's boyfriend
Speaker 1: at the time started shopping their podcast around to different
Speaker 1: networks whilst they were still with Barstool. If I was Sophia,
Speaker 1: I would be suing that boyfriend because Call Her Daddy
Speaker 1: ended up being Alex Cooper's property. She is the sole
Speaker 1: owner of it now because she stuck it out with Barstol,
Speaker 1: and then she went on to sign a deal with
Speaker 1: Spotify for sixty million dollars. Well, that's the thing. After
Speaker 1: Dave Portenoy, who is the head of Barstool, found out
Speaker 1: that Call Her Daddy was secretly being shopped, he offered
Speaker 1: both Alex and Sophia a five hundred thousand dollar annual
Speaker 1: salary plus a bonus six months off their initial three
Speaker 1: year contract, which meant that they could shop Call Her
Speaker 1: Daddy around earlier if they wanted to. So Alex agreed
Speaker 1: to the new terms and conditions, but Sophia didn't accept.
Speaker 1: What a mistake. Well, a lot of people think it's
Speaker 1: down to her boyfriend. So following the contract negotiations, Sophia
Speaker 1: took to her Instagram saying she is more than willing
Speaker 1: to return to the podcast with Barstool, but now her
Speaker 1: issue is with Alex. So she said that Alex went
Speaker 1: behind her back and was seeking more than fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty control of the podcast, and she said that she
Speaker 1: would not accept that because they have always had a partnership. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the reality of those claims was Alex said that
Speaker 1: she had to do all the editing, and as you'd know,
Speaker 1: editing the podcast is one of the worst jobs. How
Speaker 1: did they not afford an editor if that was such
Speaker 1: an issue? No, I think that because they said they
Speaker 1: would record for three hours sometimes and then peace to
Speaker 1: gather the best bits. Well, I'd imagine having to edit
Speaker 1: that out because there was a lot of conversations that
Speaker 1: obviously made the cut. Can you imagine what stuff was removed?
Speaker 1: I suppose that why it was important for them to
Speaker 1: have creative control in that aspect. I think also it
Speaker 1: sounded like Alex Cooper was coming with a lot of
Speaker 1: material and Sophia was just sort of rocking up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, Sophia has now gone on to
Speaker 1: release her own podcast, which is called Sophia with an Air,
Speaker 1: And not to be rude, but it's hardly as popular
Speaker 1: as Call Her Daddy. It's kind of what Called Their
Speaker 1: Daddy was previously. I don't mind listening to it, but
Speaker 1: they don't have big name interviews. Yeah, I mean the
Speaker 1: fact that Call Their Daddy got Kristin Cavaliery and then
Speaker 1: they got Jay Cutler, Like I don't think anyone really
Speaker 1: knows outside of NFL who j Cutler is Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it was so clear because Sophia said I really have
Speaker 1: no knowledge on sport, it was clear that she clearly
Speaker 1: had Jay on to have a massive fuck you at
Speaker 1: Alex Cooper and also Kristen. I mean, I'm all forgiving
Speaker 1: people a fuck you. I actually think it's pretty hilarious
Speaker 1: what's happened. But I do have a soft spot for
Speaker 1: Alex and Kristen, so I'm on their side. I do
Speaker 1: like Sophia, though, I feel like she's been a little
Speaker 1: bit fucked over in this whole deal. So, as you said,
Speaker 1: I can see why she did it, but it did
Speaker 1: come across as a little bit petty. But I'm here
Speaker 1: for the pettiness because I really enjoyed the interview with Jay. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you want to outline what Jay said on this podcast?
Speaker 1: So Jay basically went on and called Kristen's comments comical.
Speaker 1: He rebutted a lot of what she said, and he
Speaker 1: said that he didn't understand why she was even talking
Speaker 1: publicly about their marriage, seeing as it had ended two
Speaker 1: and a half years ago. Let's take a listen to
Speaker 1: a little clip of what Jay said.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've got three kids, so like, at some
Speaker 3: point they're going to they're going to read stuff, they're
Speaker 3: going to ask questions. So I've kind of steered clear
Speaker 3: of all of that. If she wants to say stuff,
Speaker 3: she can say stuff. Yeah, I'm not going to go
Speaker 3: down that road.
Speaker 1: And I respect that about her.
Speaker 3: She's still of the kids, so of course, but I
Speaker 3: also what we're saying, like it's two and a half years, Like,
Speaker 3: why are we having these conversations right? What do you
Speaker 3: mean by that in public? Like why are we? Why
Speaker 3: are we? Why are we doing this?
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I found a little bit strange.
Speaker 2: And she like prefaced it by saying he's the father
Speaker 2: of my kids, like my parents would ever do that
Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about and then she was
Speaker 2: like toxic, un healthy as fuck, red flags everywhere as.
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: I find it interesting that both Jay and Kristen said
Speaker 1: that they're very careful about what they say about one
Speaker 1: another because they don't want their children reading it. Yet
Speaker 1: they've both sort of slammed one another. It seems a
Speaker 1: bit hypocritical. The thing is, though, Kristen's out and about
Speaker 1: in the public eye at the moment because she's promoting
Speaker 1: her own podcast, which is all about looking back at
Speaker 1: Laguna Beach. So she clearly went on to Alex's podcast
Speaker 1: with the intention of talking about Laguna Beach and that
Speaker 1: she would touch upon her relationship with Jay. Alex wants
Speaker 1: the clickbait, as any podcast hop would, hence why she
Speaker 1: named the podcast how to Date an Athlete. It was
Speaker 1: pretty clear from the get go that Kristin did not
Speaker 1: want to talk about it further, and she kept asking
Speaker 1: her the hard questions. The difference here is that Jay
Speaker 1: has literally got his back up about it and gone
Speaker 1: on this podcast to be vindictive because no one's wanting
Speaker 1: to interview him at the moment. He's got nothing to
Speaker 1: be interviewed about other than what Kristin has said about
Speaker 1: it. He's got his own podcast as well, so he could
Speaker 1: have actually just you know, said all of this stuff
Speaker 1: on his own podcast. But it seems a very calculated
Speaker 1: move to do it on Sophia's Podwell, it seems like
Speaker 1: a calculated move by Sophia to have him on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I mean, Sophia did insinuate when she was interviewing Jay
Speaker 1: that perhaps Kristin was out there airing this dirty laundry
Speaker 1: because she has a new reality show coming out, and
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little bit unfair of her. Well,
Speaker 1: in the interview, Jay went on to deny the rumors
Speaker 1: that he'd ever cheated on Kristin, and he confirmed that
Speaker 1: he didn't think their reality show played a role in
Speaker 1: their split. He also said that Kristin got their five
Speaker 1: million dollar house in their divorce settlement, and he also
Speaker 1: shot down allegations that he froze Christen's bank accounts. I
Speaker 1: think my favorite part of this interview was when Jay
Speaker 1: and Sophia took clear shots at Alex Cooper. So Sophia
Speaker 1: exclaimed to Jay, I don't make as much money as you,
Speaker 1: and he responded saying, I know you got screwed on
Speaker 1: sixty million. She then replied saying yeah exactly, and then
Speaker 1: Jay continued saying I would be heeded about that. Sophia
Speaker 1: then said, oh, I know to this day, what do
Speaker 1: you do. I just got to make another sixty million
Speaker 1: dollar deal and it will happen. I'm saying it right now,
Speaker 1: I'm manifesting it. I'm putting it on my vision board.
Speaker 1: Done deal. I just don't know how someone could get
Speaker 1: over something like that. Oh, it would just eat me alive.
Speaker 1: Like basically, like, imagine if you guys got offered a
Speaker 1: deal from Spotify and we'd had an argument and I
Speaker 1: somehow got caught out of it. Maybe that would have
Speaker 1: been Sophie, because you know we've already said she unfriended
Speaker 1: us of Facebook over the weekend. If that could be you,
Speaker 1: so missing out it was about a five hour delete.
Speaker 1: I came back quick. I found it pretty interesting in
Speaker 1: the podcast when so I had touched on cheating in
Speaker 1: the NFL, so Jay responded saying, there were a lot
Speaker 1: of good guys out there and you just have to
Speaker 1: be selective. Yeah, well this was also another opportunity to
Speaker 1: fire a shot at Alex. So he said, we're talking
Speaker 1: a little pocket here. You can look at any group
Speaker 1: and say, hey, there's a bad girl or a bad
Speaker 1: guy in any situation, even in the podcast world, there's
Speaker 1: going to be a bad guy a bad girl. It
Speaker 1: is what it is. See. I heard that, and I
Speaker 1: actually didn't think he was referring to Alex Koper. Come on,
Speaker 1: I thought he was trying to give an actually use
Speaker 1: an example. Did you think that, Kate? I think that
Speaker 1: there are a lot of underlying potshots involved, because if
Speaker 1: you were Ja you wouldn't be thrilled that Alex Cooper
Speaker 1: has given his ex wife this platform to bag him out.
Speaker 1: One thing that did rub me up the wrong way
Speaker 1: during this interview was that at the start, Jay didn't
Speaker 1: refer to Kristen by her name. He kept calling her she, oh,
Speaker 1: she this, and she that, like, we all know you're
Speaker 1: talking about Kristen. I don't think he called her Kristen once.
Speaker 1: He also just referred to her as his ex. And
Speaker 1: I also didn't like when Sophia said, oh, how do
Speaker 1: you pronounce very cavaliery? And he's like, I don't care,
Speaker 1: It's not my problem. She butchered the name cavalery. That
Speaker 1: is such a power play, isn't it. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: a powerplay of him also to be like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't give a shoot how you pronounce it? Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, because you were on the television
Speaker 1: show called Very Cavalry. It also sounded like they were
Speaker 1: flirting throughout, so she asked him, are you looking for
Speaker 1: a new wife because I'd like a five million dollar house,
Speaker 1: And then he asked if she was good with the kids,
Speaker 1: and she said, yeah, I'm great with kids, and then
Speaker 1: he's like, let's talk later. It's like, are you trying
Speaker 1: to make Christian jealous as well by throwing this sort
Speaker 1: of flirty banter out there too? Doesn't Jay have a
Speaker 1: new girlfriend? I think he's single at the moment. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear the rebuttal from Kristen because it's coming.
Speaker 1: Something is definitely coming. Even Jay said he's waiting for something.
Speaker 1: I think she's too classy for a rebuttal because he
Speaker 1: just came across as pathetic.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that people are so jealous of me, but
Speaker 2: I can help it that I'm popular.
Speaker 1: It pains me to say this, but it seems like
Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson has officially taken Jordan sim back. So the
Speaker 1: fashion designer, of course, made a very awkward appearance last
Speaker 1: month at Jordan's boxing match after he publicly declared he
Speaker 1: would fight to win her back now. At the fight,
Speaker 1: Sammy was playing it quite coy, but it was pretty
Speaker 1: obvious that they were either getting back together or had
Speaker 1: secretly been back together for months. So it was all
Speaker 1: a big bloody publicity stunt. Oh yeah, well that as well,
Speaker 1: So we all knew it was really only a matter
Speaker 1: of time before they made it official. By publicly posting
Speaker 1: together again. Yeah, and the video was pretty cringe. So
Speaker 1: Jordan posted this TikTok where he and Sammy were miming
Speaker 1: to a movie line about how they finish off each
Speaker 1: other's sentences. And I feel like in these videos, Sammy
Speaker 1: always plays the role of the person who's not as
Speaker 1: in to Jordan. Yeah, that's so true, because she was
Speaker 1: kind of rolling her eyes. Did you notice that he
Speaker 1: captured the video at Grouse and a Few Reds, which
Speaker 1: that's the name of his podcast, and also so put
Speaker 1: boxing glove emojis after it. And I also noticed he's
Speaker 1: changed his name of his TikTok to his podcast name.
Speaker 1: So again, I feel like this is all for promo.
Speaker 1: So do we reckon that Sammy is going to appear
Speaker 1: on the podcast, because I remember months ago when they
Speaker 1: were in a good place, he said that Sammy was
Speaker 1: going to appear on there at some point. Maybe this
Speaker 1: is a way to direct traffic towards his podcast. Well,
Speaker 1: I really hope so, because I would love to hear
Speaker 1: what she's got to say for herself on the matter.
Speaker 1: I feel like it would be quite candid. The thing is,
Speaker 1: though it appears the video didn't get the traction or
Speaker 1: attention that Jordan was hoping for, because it got zero
Speaker 1: comments and only three hundred and eighty eight lives, maybe
Speaker 1: he turned commenting off. No, well, I presumably it didn't
Speaker 1: get the attention he wanted because he then shared it
Speaker 1: on his Instagram story What's Sammy getting out of this? Though? Well,
Speaker 1: he wasn't the only one that posted about it. So
Speaker 1: Kate Robinson Sammy's sister, And while I was doing a
Speaker 1: bit of research, I realized that Kate Robinson is a
Speaker 1: character anyway. So Kate posted a video of Jordan, Sammy
Speaker 1: and their friends all dancing to that Ellie Goulding the
Speaker 1: Light song, you know that one that was the backing
Speaker 1: of a lot of those car wash videos. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so they were all on their phones, like with their
Speaker 1: phone torches flashing it and they're all dancing around and
Speaker 1: it appears a lot more people notice this video because
Speaker 1: it was getting some commentary. So one person wrote embarrassing
Speaker 1: that they're back together, and this comment was liked by
Speaker 1: thirty three people. Another person wrote, no, Sammy can do
Speaker 1: so much better, so do we reckon? It's kind of
Speaker 1: a bit of a soft launch for Sammy. The fact
Speaker 1: that Jordan's first posting about it, Kate's then posting about it.
Speaker 1: I think she is a little bit embarrassed. That's why
Speaker 1: she's not sharing on her own Instagram account. I mean,
Speaker 1: she doesn't need the likes from this he does. I
Speaker 1: find it interesting, though, that more people were commenting, as
Speaker 1: you said, on Kate Robinson's because I feel like people
Speaker 1: like to catch the person out, because Jordan just made
Speaker 1: it too obvious, like look here I am with Sammy,
Speaker 1: whereas they were just in the background. Yeah, well he
Speaker 1: was jumping on. He wrote light comments subscribe with the
Speaker 1: champagne popping emoji, so it's quite clear what his intentions
Speaker 1: over this thing. I feel like we all just need
Speaker 1: a moment. I thought that we all just need a
Speaker 1: rang of applause because today is the first logan. Now,
Speaker 1: Kate el Darby has changed her name on Instagram to
Speaker 1: Elle Swift, and this is just as she reveals that
Speaker 1: she and con have arrived in Ibetha to get married.
Speaker 1: What is with this premature name change. So Lle revealed
Speaker 1: in a previous vlog that she and Con would actually
Speaker 1: officially marry in a civil service before their wedding celebrations
Speaker 1: in Ibetha. The whole thing seems a little bit of
Speaker 1: tension thinking because you think you'd make the name change
Speaker 1: once you had your official, big celebration. I wonder why
Speaker 1: they I wonder why they've gotten married before the wedding though,
Speaker 1: Well it was all because you can't officially get married
Speaker 1: in Ibetha, like it's not legally binding, and there were
Speaker 1: quite a few family members that couldn't attend the wedding overseas,
Speaker 1: so they did a small little ceremony and civil service beforehand.
Speaker 1: So what do we actually know about the wedding. Well,
Speaker 1: one thing we do know is that they flew out
Speaker 1: on easy Jet plane. So they both posted photos of
Speaker 1: themselves standing in front of the easy Jet planes, which,
Speaker 1: for those playing at home, is it budget airlines in
Speaker 1: the UK is the equivalent of taking a photo in
Speaker 1: front of your tiger plane. Yeah, so I think that
Speaker 1: they were trying to do it to appear relatable. Either
Speaker 1: that or they've lost a hell of a lot of
Speaker 1: money since the whole racism scandals. It maybe laugh because
Speaker 1: normally you see celebrities posting in front of their private
Speaker 1: jets and I was like, wow, we going on easy Jet.
Speaker 1: Does anyone remember that show Airport and it was just
Speaker 1: about everyone complaining about EasyJet. It was just like the
Speaker 1: worst publicity for the airline. Yeah, that's all. That's like
Speaker 1: literally what I immediately thought of. Do we think that they
Speaker 1: got the flights for free from EasyJet and that's why
Speaker 1: they're putting it out surely because I can't imagine boasting
Speaker 1: about flying EasyJet. The thing is, we're so used to
Speaker 1: seeing influencers posting in first class or business class that
Speaker 1: it just looked really weird. Now, Elle had kept the
Speaker 1: location of the wedding under wraps. She even put up
Speaker 1: a poll asking her followers to get guess where she
Speaker 1: was going. So she put up is she going to Greece, Ibetha,
Speaker 1: Mexico or Italy? Once she touched down, she finally revealed
Speaker 1: that she was in Ibitha. Now it's quite interesting because
Speaker 1: Elle shared in a recent vlog how she had canceled
Speaker 1: her big, extravagant wedding to go abroad for her nuptials.
Speaker 1: Can I just butt in, why does everyone in the
Speaker 1: UK say abroad instead of overseas? It's something I'm fancy
Speaker 1: Is it because they're not actually going overseas? Because it's
Speaker 1: in light bulb moment there. Yeah. So anyway, I found
Speaker 1: it funny that they were going to Abitha because they'd
Speaker 1: spoken a lot about how this place holds some personal
Speaker 1: special memories. And I assume that they were going to
Speaker 1: France because I believe Elle's dad owns a property up there,
Speaker 1: So Abitha it's very much known for its party atmosphere,
Speaker 1: not really a wedding spot. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people do go to Ibitha visas to get married. It's
Speaker 1: a secondary chavvy uk thing to do. It's probably like
Speaker 1: the equival of going to Bali for your weather. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: Elle also shared a video on YouTube of her packing
Speaker 1: for the wedding and it just gave me so much
Speaker 1: anxiety thinking about how stressful that would be. And she's
Speaker 1: actually bought this special big box to put her wedding
Speaker 1: dress on because she said she's got this fear that
Speaker 1: her wedding dress will go missing if she puts it
Speaker 1: down with the rest of the luggage. So it's a
Speaker 1: special box that she can bring on the plane and
Speaker 1: it's all tightened up so that the wedding dress can't
Speaker 1: just fall out, because I mean, you're trying to keep
Speaker 1: it a secret from your partner that's traveling with you
Speaker 1: as well. I wonder if the partners even care that much.
Speaker 1: It's not like they're trying to catch out. What does
Speaker 1: it look like? I mean, maybe it's people on the
Speaker 1: plane who might reveal her dress before she gets the
Speaker 1: chance to. Yeah. Another funny tipbit from her packing was
Speaker 1: that she said she's not getting a professional spray TND
Speaker 1: for her wedding, and she's actually tanning herself with Molly
Speaker 1: May's fake tan filter as me, I know, can you
Speaker 1: imagine like getting really dark elbows and all. I thought
Speaker 1: you guys would be all over that because you had
Speaker 1: such a hideous fake tan experience. So it wasn't that
Speaker 1: it was. Yes, the girl actually did a great job,
Speaker 1: but the instructions of leaving it on for only two
Speaker 1: hours and washing it off really stressed me out, and
Speaker 1: I ended up being quite tanned by the ceremony. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'd be the sort of person who would
Speaker 1: just do my own fake tan. No, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go and get one maybe for our hens and test
Speaker 1: it out. I think you've got to get a spray
Speaker 1: tan for your wedding because you just don't want any
Speaker 1: awkward patches, especially when you've got enough to stress it.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, if you're getting a pap smear,
Speaker 1: if you're getting your skin checked, look, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go and get a full body with the paper g's
Speaker 1: doing tan because I mean, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you're gonna look great. So what kind of dress are
Speaker 1: we expecting to see Ellen? I think a big fairy
Speaker 1: tale gown. No, I reckon she would have worn a
Speaker 1: big fairytail gown originally, but now this shit has hit
Speaker 1: the fan. I think she's going to be quite stylish.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be quite sleek and body fitting.
Speaker 1: If it fits in a box on the plane. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking like a small, little silky kind of white dress
Speaker 1: because it's going to be warm and I be through
Speaker 1: as well. Like it was she it was a pretty
Speaker 1: big box. So do you know what I learned, my love?
Speaker 1: The best way to end an argument is cooking. Who
Speaker 1: are you from me? To prove you anything I make? In? Sue, Babe?
Speaker 1: And who's that to me? Who's that to me? Aki?
Speaker 1: Who oh I can do?
Speaker 3: And who?
Speaker 1: As predicted, Daviday and Eck and Seue have announced they've
Speaker 1: been given their own reality show on ITV two, and
Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy because there were a lot of posts
Speaker 1: going around on Twitter saying, give these two their own
Speaker 1: reality show where they drive around Italy cooking and fighting,
Speaker 1: and David Day and Eckens have confirmed this is exactly
Speaker 1: what the show is going to be. So they're going
Speaker 1: to be filming their trip from Italy to Turkey, so
Speaker 1: they're driving around. One week will be spent in Italy
Speaker 1: and the other in Turkey, and they're going to meet
Speaker 1: each other's families and they're going to be cooking and fighting.
Speaker 1: Does this just show that ITV's producers are just totally
Speaker 1: uncreative because they've just literally stolen the idea from fans.
Speaker 1: Or is it that they're actually clever because they're listening
Speaker 1: to what people want given them what they want. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see this. I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be great. I'm gonna put it out there. It's a
Speaker 1: bit negative. But do we think the relationships over once
Speaker 1: the TV deal's done? Definitely? I think so. Oh they
Speaker 1: look so I No, they've bloody hammed it up ever
Speaker 1: since they've left, Like my soulmate, my King, my queen,
Speaker 1: they were never acting like that in the house, So
Speaker 1: I see, I don't like seeing them on Instagram because
Speaker 1: I really loved both of them on the show. But
Speaker 1: poor David Day, he doesn't come across as well on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see him in the car with
Speaker 1: his little, cute, little one liners. The whole thing is
Speaker 1: they're also being like every day couples though, because Instagram
Speaker 1: is always the highlight reel for couples. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: my relationship is so perfect. I mean, as you're saying,
Speaker 1: at least we're going to get a bit of a
Speaker 1: behind the scenes look on this reality show of what's
Speaker 1: really going on. And I've forgotten what David Day looks
Speaker 1: like because Einstill keeps putting on these like whapped out
Speaker 1: filters where he looks like fun yeah, and she puts
Speaker 1: it on David Day and it's like he doesn't even
Speaker 1: look like he does not need a filter. That who.
Speaker 1: I find it weird because we've all seen her on
Speaker 1: the show and then suddenly she looks like a different
Speaker 1: version of herself on Instagram. It was just way better
Speaker 1: on the show. She doesn't need those filters. It just
Speaker 1: shows how distorted our view of influencers must be because
Speaker 1: we only ever see them with those filters on, like
Speaker 1: that will look like completely different. But I think it's
Speaker 1: sad because I think it shows that eck and Suit
Speaker 1: isn't that confident in herself. She is so stunning, she's
Speaker 1: got so much going for and she's still gonna wear
Speaker 1: though put on those stupid filters. Well, I think we're
Speaker 1: got to wrap things up because now that we know
Speaker 1: Sophie has no iron in a system, I think she
Speaker 1: knows to go home, have a rest, have some iron.
Speaker 1: I think Brandon's going to try and force me to
Speaker 1: start eating steaks. Will you do that? So, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in a stage where I probably
Speaker 1: should start actually thinking about my health. If you do,
Speaker 1: can you film it for the podcast? Gotcha the first
Speaker 1: steak sandwich in ever nineteen years. Surely there's something else
Speaker 1: you could eat other than a steak. Sam, Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: I initially when this happened three years ago, I tried
Speaker 1: to eat chicken because I thought iron exactly. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just maybe gott to go for the steak.
Speaker 2: Well.
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