WEBVTT - Elle Darby's Name Change, The High Profile Podcast Feud & Ruby Tuesday Matthew's Towel-Gate 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.840 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:08.200 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:10.400 Kate Torbert and I currently feel like I'm in a 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.440 Zambrero's food comber. I'm Amy Torbert and I've had to 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.000 tell my partner to stop banging on the wall because 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.040 we were recording this podcast. He's doing some work stuff. 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:23.279 Just to clarify, I'm Sophie Torbert and I officially don't 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:25.360 have any iron in my body, which is a bit 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.440 of a weird flex. Yeah, and I feel like you 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:28.920 need to go into that a bit more because I 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.720 think people may be concerned for your health and well being. Well, 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.480 my doctor did say, are you irritable and very tired? 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.920 And yes, yes, was the Espace, Sophie's business partner. I 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.960 can confirm yes. Well, so basically I've been vegetarian since 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.480 that was fourteen, so that's almost twenty years. And how 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.040 crazy is this? So Sophie's blood test results came back 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.640 because you were actually looking into your cholesterol levels, Yeah, 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.320 they came back fine, and they said, actually your minus 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:55.760 six on the iron levels. You have no iron in 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:57.800 your body. Yeah, so that was a bit of a shock. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.280 I mean, I've always had very low iron, but I 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.480 haven't really taken it that seriously. Your mood last night 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.600 makes sense because so I've actually unfriended us on Facebook 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.399 last night. She was so annoyed at us, and I 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.720 think anger and frustration is probably one of the symptoms 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.039 of low iron. Yeah, well, I am now on a 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:18.440 six week course of very intense iron tablets and if 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.800 it doesn't go well, I have to have an iron infusion. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.480 So well, I'll keep you updated with my health dramas 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.800 at the moment. Yes. Well. On today's show, El Darby's 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:31.000 official name change ahead of her Ibtha nuptials, Kristin Cavaleri 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.640 and her ex j Cutler find themselves in the middle 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:37.440 of a high profile podcast feud and the Sammy Robinson 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.440 and Jordan Simmi update no one wanted to hear, but 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:45.040 first Ruby Tuesday. Matthews has done an absolute three sixty 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.240 in terms of relatability. So in the past, she's been 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.920 renowned for holding up a flight because she went out 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.680 to eat oysters. This time, though, the Byron Bay influencer 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.360 is now posting some very relatable content and we're here 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.320 for it. So did you go seat this. On Monday, 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.000 she shared how she was forced to use her toddler's 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.840 towel because she forgot to put a load of washing 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.960 on and she was joking. She's like, I got the towel, 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.040 and I'm like, who didn't do this? And then she 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.200 realized it was her own job. Sadly, I can relate 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.240 to this too often because quite often Brandon and I 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.280 don't do the washing and we have to use items 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.359 of our clothing that have been left in the bar 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.639 to dry ourselves. So what kind of items of clothes 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.920 use Brandon's old T shirt or something you've used that 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.480 hasn't prompted you to think maybe I need to actually start. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:39.200 I've actually bought two beautiful, like king sized towels now 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.400 that we have been in a much better routine, because 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.800 before we had the real shitty came up like tiny towels. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.720 Why are you sharing a towel at one stame? We 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:51.480 have shared shirt drinks. I mean, maybe I'm too relatable, 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:55.800 but unrelatable I find that quite unrelatable. I mean reason 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:57.600 I both have our own towels and we managed to 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.280 hang them up so we can use them in a 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.680 bathroom of people having to dry themselves with like a handtowel. 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.200 I've done that before. You're serious. Do you know what's 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.400 a real humbling moment when you do get out of 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.000 the shower and you step on your bath mat and 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.799 it's soaking wet. Oh, that's horrible. The inspired unemployed have 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.799 been talking about bath matt etiquette because they were saying 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.160 that what you meant to do is dry yourself in 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.760 the shower so you don't flood the bathroom with water. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.080 I've done that before as well. But I think they 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.520 did actually point out as well that they don't actually 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.760 like getting out of the shower because their bath mat 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.079 is always wet as well. Sophie, we had a moment 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.400 here at the Hula Media office where you were disgusted 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.240 in my bath mat. So of course we have a 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.960 home office. Oh so Dale has been working from home, 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.080 but he's actually working out in the shed, so he's 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.280 got a business partner who's here all the time. And 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.520 Sophie ran in just like Amy, you need to take 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.560 out that bath mat because Louis does not want to 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.760 see that. In here, it's discussing it's feral. On the 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.960 topic of adulting, you had a bit of a humbling 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.960 moment on the weekend when you went to a friend's house. Yeah, 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.400 so I visited a friend and they've just moved into 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:03.160 this amazing new house. And this house is dead set 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:06.200 the cleanest house I've ever been into. And this person 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.160 has a child. I heard they were following Dale around 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.920 with a mop slash vacuum because you had dirt dropping off. 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.120 The only dirt in the house was the dirt coming 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.560 off Dale's shoes. But they gave me a tour of 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:21.280 their new house, and so I went into every single room. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.320 They had about three bathrooms. It was spotless. It was 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.120 like a show home. So they didn't even have a 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.880 junk room. So I even went into the laundry and 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.000 there wasn't even a laundry basket full of clothes. It 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.680 was just spotless. I was looking for the moniker from 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.560 friend's cupboard. You know how she's the tidiest one on Friends, 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.919 but she even has a junk cupboard. I couldn't find it. 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.480 I don't know, like these this house was next level tidy. 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.880 See that is my goal in life, because I got 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.480 onto the organizational tiktoks, and I would just froth having 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.839 a house like that where everything has a place. My 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.039 house is far from that. At the moment, I just 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:55.960 wanted to come home and just throw out half of 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:57.880 my belongings. It was so funny last night. I was 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:00.520 just cleaning the kitchen and Dale was just love forget me. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.480 I'm like, I feel ashamed. That's the funny thing because, 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.680 as I said, I've been watching a lot of organizational 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.000 tiktoks and the number one rule is get rid of 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.479 your staff so everything has a place to put it 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:10.839 back in. 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.000 Hey, Jasica, I'm telling you from someone who used to 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:15.159 cheat on her boyfriend. 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.680 Those are signs of him cheating, but doesn't mean that you. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.360 Should be treated like Jessica. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:21.480 I'm sorry, but like you need to like get out 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:21.680 of that. 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.480 There are so many guys I've there. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.400 There, my guy that I've ever been with, his streating 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:30.000 me like every guy I've every Rumors have been swirling 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.920 since reality star Kristin Cavaliery and NFL player Jay Cutler 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.480 filed for divorce over two and a half years ago. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.640 Cheating rumors in particular have followed Jay after Kristen cited 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.680 inappropriate marital conduct in her divorce papers. Now things came 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.799 to a head this month when the former couple separately 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.279 appeared on feuding podcasts Call Her Daddy and Sophia with 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.960 an F Now, Kay, can you tell us some background 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.480 about their relationship. Yeah, So Kristin and Jay got married 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:01.000 in twenty thirteen. So Kristin had just left the Heels 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.840 and she was twenty six years old. So the pair 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.920 have three children together, and they actually made the decision 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.520 not to have their identity shown on social media until 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:14.360 they actually approved, which I totally respect. Yeah, I think 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.960 it's fantastic and it's something that we don't really see 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.480 a lot of. So in twenty eighteen, the couple appeared 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.960 together on reality show Very Cavaliery, which showed a bit 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.440 of an insight into their marriage, and basically the general 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.680 consensus was that Jay was a bit of a dick 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:31.839 on the show. Did you guys watch the show? I've 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.920 never seen it, Yes, So I saw it. I watched 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:38.159 probably the whole I think it was season one. He 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.359 didn't seem like a dick, but it was just obvious 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.520 that he wasn't into the reality show like it seemed 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.680 like the show was to keep Kristin happy, and he 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.560 was very much this sort of retired footy player who 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.360 just liked being outdoors. They probably had the cash from 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.240 the show, but that was about it. So, so can 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.320 you tell us what happened on Caller Daddy, because that's 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.400 really what initiated all of this. I'm going to start 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.960 by outline the date that this episode aired, So it 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.120 was on the third of August, and that will be 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.680 important later on. So the episode was entitled so you 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.680 want to Date an Athlete? And many listeners of call 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.160 Her Daddy will know that Alex Cooper has dated her 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.000 fair share of athletes. So she and Kristin got on 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.160 really well, chatting about how Kristen bagged a number of 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.240 athletes and also about her time on Lagona Beach, and 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.800 Alex also asked some questions about her highly publicized divorce 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:29.920 from Jay Cutler. So when Alex asked Kristen about her divorce, 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.360 Kristin was really respectful and pointed out that she's very 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.800 careful of what she says about Jay because he is 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.040 the father to her children, and she said that she 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.960 knows how media headlines can start in saying that she 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.240 did say that their relationship was toxic and there were 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.400 a number of red flags along the way, here's what 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:48.920 she said. 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.119 So here's my only thing. Because I have three kids 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.760 with him, I'm very careful about what I say. If 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.480 you and I didn't have microphones in front of us, 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.480 i'd fucking tell you. But you know that's the dad 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.760 and my oldest googles us now, and I just want 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.120 to be very careful. My mom never said anything bad 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.480 about my dad growing up, and I really respected that, 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.800 and I want to be that kind of mom. And 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:14.920 even if I don't say anything, the headlines will say 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.760 I've fucking trashed them somehow. So I just you know, 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:20.960 it was toxic, I think, period, end of story. That's 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.080 all I kind of need to say. 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.520 See, I'm surprised that this is all coming out because 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.040 I was quite impressed by the way she spoke about Jay. 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.800 I thought she was quite respectful. I mean, I know 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.480 her intentions are to be respectful for her children, which 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.880 is very admirable, but it seems like she only touched 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:37.960 on a few things that were already leaked in the 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:41.360 divorce papers. Anyway, I felt like the same way Cake, 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.679 because when you hear that someone like Kristen is going 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:45.880 to be on call her daddy, I almost felt like 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.120 she was going to be giving some juicy gossip about 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.960 the breakup. Well, one bit of goss that she did 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.440 drop was that she actually called off her engagement to 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.920 Jay in twenty eleven, and she said that she cited 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.160 a couple of red flags, so she sort of eluded 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.840 that she should have taken more note of those red flags, 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.560 So that was quite interesting. She also said that it 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.120 took her a number of years to actually pull the 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.760 trigger and end the marriage. And she said that nothing 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.160 major happened at the end, so she didn't touch on 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.680 any of those cheating rumors that have been flying around. 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.640 I just got the vibe that they were really different people. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.559 I just, yeah, she seemed very unhappy in the relationship. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.040 I mean, if you think about it, if you're married 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.960 to an athlete who was constantly traveling, you sort of 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.840 lose sight of your relationship. You probably forget who they are, 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.520 you grow apart. I don't know if it was that. 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.760 I just felt more so that maybe since he retired 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.640 from football and they spent time with each other, they 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.080 realized that they had nothing in common. Because on the show, 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.040 it was so clear that they were very different. They 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:47.840 had very different personalities, Kristin seemed very social and outgoing 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.199 and bubbly, whereas he was more reserved and he wanted 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.920 to go hunting, and they just didn't really seem like 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.199 they were very well suited. To be fair, I think 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.920 Alex Cooper did a very good job at probing Kristin 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.000 for more comments because she did the disclaimer that she 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.080 was not going to be making further comments. But you 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.640 could really see that Alex was jerking in overdrive to 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:09.320 get a few tidbits that Kristin did drop along the way. Now, 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.880 just over a week later, on August eleventh, Call Her 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:18.319 Daddy's rival podcast, Sophia with an F released an episode 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:22.200 with Kristen's ex husband, Jay So to bring listeners up 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.839 to speed. Alex Cooper and Sophia Franklin. They both used 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.920 to host the Call Her Daddy podcast, and the drama 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.480 between the two of them allegedly happened when Sophia's boyfriend 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.120 at the time started shopping their podcast around to different 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.640 networks whilst they were still with Barstool. If I was Sophia, 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.960 I would be suing that boyfriend because Call Her Daddy 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.280 ended up being Alex Cooper's property. She is the sole 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.160 owner of it now because she stuck it out with Barstol, 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:51.760 and then she went on to sign a deal with 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.800 Spotify for sixty million dollars. Well, that's the thing. After 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.880 Dave Portenoy, who is the head of Barstool, found out 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:01.040 that Call Her Daddy was secretly being shopped, he offered 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.439 both Alex and Sophia a five hundred thousand dollar annual 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.760 salary plus a bonus six months off their initial three 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.680 year contract, which meant that they could shop Call Her 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.760 Daddy around earlier if they wanted to. So Alex agreed 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:18.199 to the new terms and conditions, but Sophia didn't accept. 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.800 What a mistake. Well, a lot of people think it's 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:24.559 down to her boyfriend. So following the contract negotiations, Sophia 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.320 took to her Instagram saying she is more than willing 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.360 to return to the podcast with Barstool, but now her 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.280 issue is with Alex. So she said that Alex went 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.199 behind her back and was seeking more than fifty to 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.560 fifty control of the podcast, and she said that she 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:43.600 would not accept that because they have always had a partnership. Yeah, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.679 but the reality of those claims was Alex said that 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.200 she had to do all the editing, and as you'd know, 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.319 editing the podcast is one of the worst jobs. How 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.400 did they not afford an editor if that was such 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.200 an issue? No, I think that because they said they 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.080 would record for three hours sometimes and then peace to 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.400 gather the best bits. Well, I'd imagine having to edit 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.440 that out because there was a lot of conversations that 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:09.079 obviously made the cut. Can you imagine what stuff was removed? 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.120 I suppose that why it was important for them to 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.760 have creative control in that aspect. I think also it 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.400 sounded like Alex Cooper was coming with a lot of 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:19.120 material and Sophia was just sort of rocking up. 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:19.560 Yeah. 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.200 Well, the thing is, Sophia has now gone on to 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.079 release her own podcast, which is called Sophia with an Air, 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.480 And not to be rude, but it's hardly as popular 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.440 as Call Her Daddy. It's kind of what Called Their 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.400 Daddy was previously. I don't mind listening to it, but 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.440 they don't have big name interviews. Yeah, I mean the 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.400 fact that Call Their Daddy got Kristin Cavaliery and then 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.040 they got Jay Cutler, Like I don't think anyone really 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.560 knows outside of NFL who j Cutler is Yeah, and 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.640 it was so clear because Sophia said I really have 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.680 no knowledge on sport, it was clear that she clearly 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.319 had Jay on to have a massive fuck you at 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.880 Alex Cooper and also Kristen. I mean, I'm all forgiving 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.160 people a fuck you. I actually think it's pretty hilarious 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.080 what's happened. But I do have a soft spot for 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.080 Alex and Kristen, so I'm on their side. I do 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.280 like Sophia, though, I feel like she's been a little 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.640 bit fucked over in this whole deal. So, as you said, 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.240 I can see why she did it, but it did 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.240 come across as a little bit petty. But I'm here 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:20.000 for the pettiness because I really enjoyed the interview with Jay. Okay, 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.640 do you want to outline what Jay said on this podcast? 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:27.040 So Jay basically went on and called Kristen's comments comical. 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:29.640 He rebutted a lot of what she said, and he 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.320 said that he didn't understand why she was even talking 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.800 publicly about their marriage, seeing as it had ended two 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.000 and a half years ago. Let's take a listen to 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:40.520 a little clip of what Jay said. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:42.400 I mean, I've got three kids, so like, at some 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.120 point they're going to they're going to read stuff, they're 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:49.520 going to ask questions. So I've kind of steered clear 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.760 of all of that. If she wants to say stuff, 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.640 she can say stuff. Yeah, I'm not going to go 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:55.360 down that road. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.040 And I respect that about her. 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.360 She's still of the kids, so of course, but I 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.120 also what we're saying, like it's two and a half years, Like, 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.559 why are we having these conversations right? What do you 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.600 mean by that in public? Like why are we? Why 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:09.640 are we? Why are we doing this? 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.439 Well, that's what I found a little bit strange. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.480 And she like prefaced it by saying he's the father 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.839 of my kids, like my parents would ever do that 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:19.520 I'm not going to talk about and then she was 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:25.520 like toxic, un healthy as fuck, red flags everywhere as. 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.680 It doesn't make sense. 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.120 I find it interesting that both Jay and Kristen said 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.840 that they're very careful about what they say about one 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.000 another because they don't want their children reading it. Yet 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.760 they've both sort of slammed one another. It seems a 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:44.200 bit hypocritical. The thing is, though, Kristen's out and about 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.280 in the public eye at the moment because she's promoting 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.680 her own podcast, which is all about looking back at 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.320 Laguna Beach. So she clearly went on to Alex's podcast 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.680 with the intention of talking about Laguna Beach and that 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.280 she would touch upon her relationship with Jay. Alex wants 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.120 the clickbait, as any podcast hop would, hence why she 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.840 named the podcast how to Date an Athlete. It was 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.800 pretty clear from the get go that Kristin did not 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.440 want to talk about it further, and she kept asking 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.680 her the hard questions. The difference here is that Jay 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.520 has literally got his back up about it and gone 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.160 on this podcast to be vindictive because no one's wanting 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.120 to interview him at the moment. He's got nothing to 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.800 be interviewed about other than what Kristin has said about 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.440 it. He's got his own podcast as well, so he could 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.960 have actually just you know, said all of this stuff 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.120 on his own podcast. But it seems a very calculated 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.720 move to do it on Sophia's Podwell, it seems like 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.360 a calculated move by Sophia to have him on the podcast. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.400 I mean, Sophia did insinuate when she was interviewing Jay 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.840 that perhaps Kristin was out there airing this dirty laundry 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.880 because she has a new reality show coming out, and 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.320 I thought that was a little bit unfair of her. Well, 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.760 in the interview, Jay went on to deny the rumors 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.600 that he'd ever cheated on Kristin, and he confirmed that 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.040 he didn't think their reality show played a role in 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.760 their split. He also said that Kristin got their five 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.960 million dollar house in their divorce settlement, and he also 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.560 shot down allegations that he froze Christen's bank accounts. I 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.720 think my favorite part of this interview was when Jay 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:10.360 and Sophia took clear shots at Alex Cooper. So Sophia 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.960 exclaimed to Jay, I don't make as much money as you, 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.200 and he responded saying, I know you got screwed on 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:20.720 sixty million. She then replied saying yeah exactly, and then 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:24.400 Jay continued saying I would be heeded about that. Sophia 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.000 then said, oh, I know to this day, what do 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.360 you do. I just got to make another sixty million 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.000 dollar deal and it will happen. I'm saying it right now, 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.520 I'm manifesting it. I'm putting it on my vision board. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.320 Done deal. I just don't know how someone could get 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.240 over something like that. Oh, it would just eat me alive. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.840 Like basically, like, imagine if you guys got offered a 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.400 deal from Spotify and we'd had an argument and I 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.600 somehow got caught out of it. Maybe that would have 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.080 been Sophie, because you know we've already said she unfriended 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.640 us of Facebook over the weekend. If that could be you, 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.880 so missing out it was about a five hour delete. 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.840 I came back quick. I found it pretty interesting in 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.960 the podcast when so I had touched on cheating in 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.280 the NFL, so Jay responded saying, there were a lot 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.520 of good guys out there and you just have to 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.679 be selective. Yeah, well this was also another opportunity to 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.720 fire a shot at Alex. So he said, we're talking 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.760 a little pocket here. You can look at any group 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.160 and say, hey, there's a bad girl or a bad 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.400 guy in any situation, even in the podcast world, there's 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.840 going to be a bad guy a bad girl. It 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:25.960 is what it is. See. I heard that, and I 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.760 actually didn't think he was referring to Alex Koper. Come on, 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.280 I thought he was trying to give an actually use 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.520 an example. Did you think that, Kate? I think that 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.479 there are a lot of underlying potshots involved, because if 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.679 you were Ja you wouldn't be thrilled that Alex Cooper 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.760 has given his ex wife this platform to bag him out. 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:45.480 One thing that did rub me up the wrong way 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.720 during this interview was that at the start, Jay didn't 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.920 refer to Kristen by her name. He kept calling her she, oh, 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.480 she this, and she that, like, we all know you're 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:56.680 talking about Kristen. I don't think he called her Kristen once. 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.800 He also just referred to her as his ex. And 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:03.159 I also didn't like when Sophia said, oh, how do 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.440 you pronounce very cavaliery? And he's like, I don't care, 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.119 It's not my problem. She butchered the name cavalery. That 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.080 is such a power play, isn't it. Yeah, but it's 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:13.520 a powerplay of him also to be like, oh, I 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.800 don't give a shoot how you pronounce it? Yeah, I know, 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.040 it's like, you know, because you were on the television 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.600 show called Very Cavalry. It also sounded like they were 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:24.200 flirting throughout, so she asked him, are you looking for 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.439 a new wife because I'd like a five million dollar house, 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.000 And then he asked if she was good with the kids, 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.080 and she said, yeah, I'm great with kids, and then 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.560 he's like, let's talk later. It's like, are you trying 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.280 to make Christian jealous as well by throwing this sort 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.439 of flirty banter out there too? Doesn't Jay have a 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.400 new girlfriend? I think he's single at the moment. I 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.800 can't wait to hear the rebuttal from Kristen because it's coming. 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:50.240 Something is definitely coming. Even Jay said he's waiting for something. 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.280 I think she's too classy for a rebuttal because he 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:54.520 just came across as pathetic. 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.520 I'm sorry that people are so jealous of me, but 0:18:58.560 --> 0:18:59.880 I can help it that I'm popular. 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.679