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Speaker 1: Jobs with Jonesy and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: What a weekend. I've been very emotional, watching speeches, watching parties.

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Speaker 2: It's like a door has opened and a fresh breeze

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Speaker 2: is washing through. Hugh Rimington obviously has been on the

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Speaker 2: streets of Washington. He's still there.

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Speaker 3: I say, he's our man, he's our man. I know

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Speaker 3: he's with aligned with Channel ten, but I feel that

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Speaker 3: we're a sidebar. Would that be fair to say you, hello.

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Speaker 4: You look. I think that's true, And you're quite right.

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Speaker 4: I'm still on the streets because then you're paying me.

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Speaker 4: That's where I live at the moment. I under a tree.

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Speaker 2: It does seem from here that there's this huge celebration.

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Speaker 2: If someone had said to me, people will take to

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Speaker 2: the streets, I would have been anxious that it was

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Speaker 2: going to be a negative energy. But it's it just

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Speaker 2: seems joyous from here.

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Speaker 4: Well yesterday and Washington. I mean, you've got to take

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Speaker 4: this into account, that is that the big cities and

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Speaker 4: particularly inner cities of the United States overwhelming be both

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Speaker 4: Democrats and the Republican you know, energy and support of

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Speaker 4: which there is an enormous amount lies broadly speaking elsewhere.

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Speaker 4: So if you go to any of the big cities

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Speaker 4: New York, Downtown New York, if you go to Philadelphia,

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Speaker 4: to LA to Washington, you're going to see big celebrations.

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Speaker 4: And that is exactly what we saw. In fact, as

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Speaker 4: the news came through yesterday, I was watching on CNN

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Speaker 4: and they called it, and I think at the same

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Speaker 4: time CBS and others were calling it. Roughly at the

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Speaker 4: same time. It's suddenly you heard out the window car

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Speaker 4: honks and people yelling, and I'm only a few blocks

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Speaker 4: from the White House and I just trotted down there.

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Speaker 4: People were just starting to gather and they literally I

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Speaker 4: was still there at what is at four o'clock in

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Speaker 4: the morning, there still people dancing outside. There was just

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Speaker 4: phenomenal and people can downce it mate.

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Speaker 3: So how do the Republican supporters go with this? They

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Speaker 3: are they taking it well.

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Speaker 2: Or because there's still a lot of them.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of them.

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Speaker 4: It's an enormous amount.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a couple of isolated instances that

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Speaker 1: have sort of broken onto news that we're aware of of,

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Speaker 1: sort of punches thrown and a bit of push and

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Speaker 1: shave and some soundness and this sort of stuff going on.

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Speaker 4: It's a bus country. It's got a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: They're a seventy minute voted for Donald Trump. He's got

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Speaker 4: the second largest number of votes ever accrued by any

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Speaker 4: presidential candidate and lose them. It's a bit like winning

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Speaker 4: the world record becoming second in race. They're breaking them

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Speaker 4: world record. But so you know that will be as

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Speaker 4: people always are when your candidates los as you feel better.

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Speaker 4: But there's another element to it. And you've got so

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Speaker 4: many people here the way the media works, who only

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Speaker 4: watch outlets, which a sense you reflect back to them,

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Speaker 4: are kind of a trumpest view of the world, who

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Speaker 4: only know people vote for Trump, who have no other

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Speaker 4: concepts of it, and they simply cannot believe. They just

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Speaker 4: don't believe that people vote Democrat. And so quite easy

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Speaker 4: just to for the president in a sense, to say

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Speaker 4: I won the election. And they're telling you other liss

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Speaker 4: because they stole the election, and that there many of

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Speaker 4: them are kind of torn in this world. Is he

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Speaker 4: right or do we have to accept it? You know

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Speaker 4: that I don't think there's a lot of denial going

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Speaker 4: on at the moment.

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Speaker 2: It's extremely unpresidential, isn't it that this is how the

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Speaker 2: handover looks like it's going to happen. Is it unprecedented

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Speaker 2: to not have a concession speech. I heard it was

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Speaker 2: Jared Kushner's job to tap him on the shoulder and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Donald, Are you going to have to it's over, mate?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, there has to be someone, almost from within

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Speaker 4: his family because others. He has such a sense of

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Speaker 4: loyalty and demands on people's personal loyalty that if you

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Speaker 4: feel someone's been disloyal, he can bear a grudge. And

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Speaker 4: because he's still going to remain a powerful figure, you

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Speaker 4: know he can. He can, you know, just with a tweet,

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Speaker 4: just with an angry word, destroy someone's future career within

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Speaker 4: the system. So there's qreat nervousness about going up to

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Speaker 4: the White House. Congressman, senators, you know they happen with Nixon.

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Speaker 4: Ultimately it was senior conservatives when did to Nixon's sense

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Speaker 4: of time is up and that's what he knew as

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Speaker 4: time was up. No one's doing that to him. But

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Speaker 4: we hear a report that Milania Trump has started to

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Speaker 4: condition him to the fact that he lost the election.

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Speaker 4: He's going to have to move on. But at the moment,

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Speaker 4: there is no concession. There's no modern precedence for that

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Speaker 4: for one person to claim it and to start working

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Speaker 4: on the transition, building his COVID task Force, all the

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Speaker 4: stuff that Joe Biden's doing while he's still got another

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Speaker 4: guy in there tweeting out I won the election. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's weird. Wow.

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Speaker 2: And as you say, he still has a long time

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Speaker 2: to go. He can do a lot of damage in

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Speaker 2: the next couple of months.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, he is still the president and he

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Speaker 4: remains the commander in chief of the military. What will

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Speaker 4: happen though, in practical terms, is that there will be

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Speaker 4: if he does anything like there is a sort of

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Speaker 4: a caretaker period that everyone would acknowledge. If he was

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Speaker 4: to do something that wasn't justified by say external event,

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Speaker 4: if there was God forbidden another attack on the Trintaws

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Speaker 4: or something like that, he would have to respond to

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Speaker 4: that as the president. But there will be other restrictions

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Speaker 4: on him, you know, because politicians are smart about this,

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Speaker 4: to stop him doing something completely ridiculous, you know, you know,

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Speaker 4: raiding the treasury, you know, going back to a gold

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Speaker 4: standard all this. Whatever it might be that he wants

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Speaker 4: to it probably won't happen, but he does remain the

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Speaker 4: president until January midnight on January the nineteenth.

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Speaker 3: What'd you have better check the curtain rods and Steve,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't put some raw prawns or something. That's what

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Speaker 3: I'd be doing doing well, Hugh. It's always a treat

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Speaker 3: to talk to you, and we love you. Being aligned

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Speaker 3: with us.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's fabulous. I do have to report a little disappointment.

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Speaker 4: I've been on the hunt for your French magnets and

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Speaker 4: I can't find a single one joke. We'll we'll see.

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Speaker 3: What about some wine. We'll send you some jams.

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Speaker 4: No, no, I can't be bought, but I can't get

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Speaker 4: I'll get you a few badges. I'm still on the

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Speaker 4: hunt for the French magnet.

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Speaker 2: I'd love a badge.

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Speaker 4: All right, we'll work on it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Hugh.

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Speaker 4: You Amanda,