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Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast Mini Big Trouble

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Speaker 1: for the pussy Cat Dolls.

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Speaker 2: She got down west like me.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, love that, love that one?

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Speaker 2: What is that one?

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Speaker 1: Gi Ho?

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Speaker 2: Gi Ho?

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Speaker 1: Ye? Sure it's not tally no gi Ho?

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Speaker 3: Who is gi Ho? Not sure?

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Speaker 1: Okay, it must be a great go there if the

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Speaker 1: dolls are singing about him. But the reason we are

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Speaker 1: talking about the dolls is because they were going to

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Speaker 1: have a reunion. They've been broken up for a while,

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Speaker 1: they haven't been doing music for a long time. They're

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Speaker 1: going to bring it all back together. But unfortunately that's

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Speaker 1: looking bad now because Shirt Singer the main cat.

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Speaker 3: Well, we wouldn't call her the main cat. We'd call

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Speaker 3: her top pussy.

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Speaker 1: Yep, top top puss.

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Speaker 3: She is potentially busy cat dolls, let's call them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, of course, of course make ket mature.

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Speaker 1: But she is potentially out now from the reunion because

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Speaker 1: she requested seventy five percent ownership and complete creative control.

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Speaker 3: Did she really?

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Speaker 1: And the other cats were obviously like.

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Speaker 3: The other cats less than three minutes and really really

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Speaker 3: rogue comments.

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Speaker 1: I'm on track, producers, don't you worry, I'm back on track.

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Speaker 1: She wants complete creative control. And yeah, the other Pussycat

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Speaker 1: dolls were just like, nah, not up in here. So

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Speaker 1: it looks like it looks like it's all over the

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Speaker 1: reunion now, Will, Yes, I wanted to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about this because Nicole Schertzinger was demanding complete creative control.

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Speaker 1: That was her number one non negotiable to be in

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Speaker 1: control of every single decision.

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Speaker 3: Yes, now, it.

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Speaker 1: Would be no lie yep or no exaggeration that you

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Speaker 1: are also a bit of a control freak.

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Speaker 2: Will's a control freak, control freak, will control.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, back to you, Woody, Thank you, Woody, yourself one

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Speaker 1: more time in production.

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Speaker 3: I will leave this studio.

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Speaker 1: You're someone you anchor this show, and you really like

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Speaker 1: being in control. And if I mean like sometimes you're

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Speaker 1: very uncomfortable when you're not in control of why is

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Speaker 1: that great?

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Speaker 3: Christian? It actually is something that has really bothered me

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Speaker 3: because if I think about it rationally, I actually I

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Speaker 3: hate control freaks. No one likes control freaks, and I

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Speaker 3: really don't like it about myself when I am like that.

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Speaker 3: And I think that anybody that feels like they need

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Speaker 3: to be in control knows that it's a nasty feeling

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Speaker 3: and what happens with me. This is the worst part

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Speaker 3: about it is I start getting really pissed off, I

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Speaker 3: start getting really angry, and it totally unravels, and to

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Speaker 3: the point where like I will walk into meeting rooms

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Speaker 3: sometimes and if particularly if I'm down on myself, I

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Speaker 3: will feel and if I feel like things are out

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Speaker 3: of my cantrol, I will be like so angry that

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Speaker 3: I won't even be able to communicate with ideas and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So what's the fear there?

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Speaker 3: What's the bye question?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So I hate that I hate control freaks,

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Speaker 3: and I hate the fact that I get angry and

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Speaker 3: I'm not and I'm not an egomaniac. That's the other thing.

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Speaker 3: So I had to really look at this recently, and

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Speaker 3: actually I just talk to my psychologist about this because

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm really worried that I'm turning into

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Speaker 3: I just I hate the fact that this is happening.

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Speaker 3: And it came down to the fact that it comes

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Speaker 3: from a really deep seated thing, which I'm sure a

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Speaker 3: lot of people can understand, but I'm going to There's

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Speaker 3: a guy called David White who's one of my favorite poets,

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Speaker 3: and he says that anger is the deepest form of

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Speaker 3: care for yourself. Oh yeah, so it's.

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Speaker 1: Anger is the deepest form of care for yourself. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's like as in like it's a defense. It's a

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Speaker 1: you set up a defense for yourself.

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Speaker 3: Anger is what we what we call anger is just

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Speaker 3: the final remnants or resonance of you trying to protect yourself,

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Speaker 3: all the most vulnerable part of yourself, and it bursts

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Speaker 3: to the surface.

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Speaker 1: So you think, so when you're trying to take control

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Speaker 1: and that can sometimes manifest into anger.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's you protecting yourself essentially. So it comes from

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Speaker 3: a place, as I understand, and I really don't want

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Speaker 3: to bore everybody with my own psychoanalysis here, but it

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Speaker 3: comes from when I was a child wanting to be

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Speaker 3: loved and wanting to be noticed. And the great catch

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Speaker 3: all of being in control is that you have to

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Speaker 3: be noticed. If you're in control, everybody notices you, everyone

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Speaker 3: has to get around you because you're in control. And

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Speaker 3: so when that slips out of your fingers, you feel

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Speaker 3: like you're not in control, and then you're not going

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Speaker 3: to be loved. And then I get angry because I'm

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Speaker 3: just trying to I'm scared that I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: be loved. Yeah, so it was a really scary because

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Speaker 3: I've always looked at control freaks. Actually, when I read that,

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Speaker 3: and I knew that about myself recently, I thought, I

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Speaker 3: actually feel really sorry for Shirt sing it because she

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Speaker 3: obviously the same thing.

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Speaker 1: It's probably the same thing a lot of narcissists as well.

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Speaker 3: They draw in attention. They want people to look at

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Speaker 3: them because they just actual we want to be loved

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Speaker 3: and they've been really hurt and yeah, that's why they

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Speaker 3: get angry and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for sharing that. That was very open

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Speaker 1: honors vulnerable. But the best way out of this will

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Speaker 1: is exposure therapy. So so my plan and our junior

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Speaker 1: producer doesn't know this yet, So this is going to

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Speaker 1: be complete chaos, but I'm going to kick you out

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Speaker 1: of the radio studio. Analise, our junior producer, is going

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Speaker 1: to come live on the radio and then she can

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Speaker 1: just talk about whatever she wants and you cannot control

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Speaker 1: it at all.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Just you are going to watch this show burn to

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Speaker 1: the ground.

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Speaker 2: Control freak, control freak, will control.

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Speaker 3: Analise is going to come in and sit in my

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Speaker 3: sense and anchor and drink your tea. All right, I

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Speaker 3: have to watch from the outside.

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Speaker 1: Yes you do up next, Yes you do, and you're

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Speaker 1: going to give you a mile so we can hear

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Speaker 1: you outside, but we can turn you down if we want.

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Speaker 1: It's Will, and what do you for your drive home?

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Speaker 3: On Kiss?

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Speaker 2: Would you?

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Speaker 1: I'm um, obviously this is not Will junior producer Analyse

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Speaker 1: and you are bloody on fire on Analyst. That sounded good.

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Speaker 1: There was some heart to your an cream that I felt, Analyse,

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Speaker 1: which I really really enjoyed. Now I should explain before

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Speaker 1: we do have a conversation that the reason you are

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Speaker 1: in here and you cannot hear Will is because he

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Speaker 1: is a control freak.

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Speaker 2: Will's a control freak. Control freak. Will get a control freek.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, back to you, Woody, Thank you, Woody. So Nicole

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Speaker 1: Schertzinger she's pulled out of the Pussycat Dolls because she

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Speaker 1: won a complete creative control. So she obviously has the

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Speaker 1: same issue as Analyse that Will has. Yes, yes, so

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Speaker 1: I thought Will needed some exposure therapy by losing complete

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Speaker 1: control of the radio show.

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Speaker 3: I love I love your idea.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much. Analyse. God, it's a

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Speaker 1: pleasant it's pleasant experience, refreshing it here great energy.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling it.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling this as well.

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Speaker 3: Y's microphone.

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Speaker 1: Do not give him his control. Now, analyse. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how's life going for you? I mean, tell me how old?

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Speaker 1: I tell everyone how old?

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Speaker 2: You are?

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Speaker 1: Analyst? So I'm twenty one, twenty one, Yes, living in

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Speaker 1: the beautiful country of Australia.

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Speaker 3: You live in I'm so glad you live in this.

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Speaker 3: That is now hell on, think about this.

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Speaker 2: This is good stuff. This is good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Twenty years old and you're looking at Will Slice. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to eat Wills?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: I am known as the cake Queen. Yes. Yes, Will

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Speaker 1: has got a few bits and bobs in his area,

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Speaker 1: and it would be rude for me not to taste

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Speaker 1: test to slice. I agree an have a bite. It's

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Speaker 1: a lemon delicious.

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Speaker 3: There you bitch wood. He was looking forward to that

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Speaker 3: all day.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's gonna be hangry.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he's here, he's here.

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Speaker 2: Hot her.

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Speaker 3: We'll get her into witness protection. More of the boys

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Speaker 3: on the Full Show podcast. You know you want to