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Speaker 1: Let Me Tell You Your Story on Time Clearsy releases

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Speaker 1: the story behind the song.

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Speaker 2: The song in question today is in the Air Tonight.

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Speaker 2: It was Phil Collins' debut solo single, and it was

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Speaker 2: released as the lead single from Collins' debut solo album,

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Speaker 2: Face Value all the Way back in January nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 3: Because he had his name, his reputation as the drummer

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Speaker 2: So In the E to Night reached number one in Austria, Germany, Switzerland,

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Speaker 2: reached number nineteen in the United States. In the e

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Speaker 2: Tonight is one of Collins's best known hits, often cited

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Speaker 2: as his signature song, and is especially famous for its

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Speaker 4: The sound was different from many other records that was

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Speaker 4: around a the time. Drums really normally were recorded and

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Speaker 4: acoustably perfect surroundings, you know, that was the way you know,

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Speaker 4: called the Townhouse which had this stone room and that's

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Speaker 4: where I'd recorded with Peter Gabriel. You know, I was

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Speaker 4: his drummer for a little while when he couldn't afford

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Speaker 4: American musicians. So he invited me to play on some

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Speaker 4: tracks on that album, which was his third album, and

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Speaker 4: there was a song called Intruder on that which was

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Speaker 4: basically my drum part and a song he adapted to

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Speaker 4: fit it. But I fell in love with the engineer

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Speaker 4: who got this sound. So when I did my solo album,

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Speaker 4: I know, got together with him and we did face

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Speaker 4: value together. So when we did in the Air Tonight,

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Speaker 4: you know, we got set up set up in the

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Speaker 4: he was getting the sound. And then when we came

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Speaker 4: and that Phil was that and and that ad and that,

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Speaker 4: and we thought that sounds good.

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Speaker 5: It's a fil even bad drummers can.

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Speaker 2: Play, no word play, it's a drum fill.

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Speaker 5: It's a fill drum We.

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Speaker 3: Love even And it ended up on the Cabriad with

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Speaker 3: the guy in the gorilla suit playing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah the inspiration. Collins wrote the song amid the grief

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Speaker 2: he felt after divorcing his first wife, Andrea Bertarelli in

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty. In an interview in twenty sixteen, he said,

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Speaker 2: of the song's lyrics, I wrote the lyrics spontaneously. I'm

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Speaker 2: not quite sure what the song is about, but there

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Speaker 2: was a lot of anger, a lot of despair, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of frustration. But there are also a lot

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Speaker 2: of urban legends. We've all heard the myths about this song,

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Speaker 2: the main one being that story that the lyrics are

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Speaker 2: based on an incident where someone drowned and someone was

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Speaker 2: close enough to help save the victim but did not

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Speaker 3: Knew everything and it was supposedly roughly docum it around that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: See he had this discussion with Jimmy Kimmel on his

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Speaker 5: Yeah, is this true?

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Speaker 6: That this is what happens? Is when I heard you

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Speaker 7: Night and there's a dot you saw somebody saw someone

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Speaker 7: drowning and he didn't yeah, and he let him drown.

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Speaker 8: He let him drown, and you go and he watched

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Speaker 8: the man basically murder somebody. And then so instead of

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Speaker 4: To your concert and then shone the lights on him.

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Speaker 1: He showed, Yes, you shone a light on him, and

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Speaker 7: Then you go, I know what you did, buddy, Oh

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Speaker 5: Okay, that is the best story I've ever heard of.

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Speaker 6: It I know.

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately none of it is true.

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Speaker 6: What you know.

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Speaker 4: I was just pissed off, you know, I was angry

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, you go through a divorce, and.

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Speaker 4: You know, sometimes it's like I love you, I love you,

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Speaker 4: well yeah, and then of course that's when a song

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Speaker 4: like in the Air Tonight comes out. There's obviously a

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Speaker 5: Well, yes, a bit of anger.

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Speaker 3: He's written a lot of love songs and break up

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Speaker 3: once with Jimmy fallon there.

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Speaker 2: So the myth went that he then spotted the guy

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Speaker 2: at a concert in the audience, the audience even references

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Speaker 2: in his song Stan where he talks about you know

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Speaker 2: the song by Phil Collins in the Air Tonight, about

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Speaker 2: that guy who could have saved that other guy from drowning, didn't.

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Speaker 2: Then Phil saw it all. Then at a show we

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Speaker 5: It's so bizartically. This wasn't about that.

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Speaker 3: No, no, it wasn't. But the song got even bigger

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Speaker 3: and it was on the pilot of Miami Vice, the

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Speaker 3: old Crockett and Tubs. Remember that, almost the whole song

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Speaker 3: on there. And it's funny how eventually Phil ended up acting.

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Speaker 3: Because Phil was a bit of a child actor, he

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Speaker 3: I used it was one of the first times a

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Speaker 5: Well that's a groundbreaker.

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Speaker 2: It's not. It's not a short one.

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Speaker 6: It's not.

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Speaker 5: It's not what a classic Phil Collins.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you a story on Time releases the

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Speaker 1: story behind the song.

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Speaker 2: And that story behind the song. Song today is Stupid

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Speaker 2: Girls by Pink from her fourth studio album I'm Not Dead.

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Speaker 2: It was released in February two thousand and six. It

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Speaker 2: introduces a more provocative, feminist and explicit side of Pink Lyrically,

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Speaker 2: it condemns sexism and it encourages women not to dumb

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Speaker 2: it down. The music video features Pink in a variety

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Speaker 2: a variety of celebrities. Some of the negatively portrayed characters

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Speaker 9: Well, did you.

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Speaker 8: Ever hear from any of the girls you parodied in

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Speaker 8: a music video for Stupid Girl?

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Speaker 6: I did.

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Speaker 10: Actually the test, Paris was upset with me.

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Speaker 5: She was she was what did she say? And how

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Speaker 10: She said, I just want you to know that I

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna go good to see fair enough too.

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Speaker 6: It's so true.

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Speaker 3: And there all guys hand in hand with the Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's been well documented why she has rised her daughter Willow,

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Speaker 2: Don't dumb it down?

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Speaker 5: It is bizarre.

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Speaker 2: I think she had this discussion with Andrew Denton.

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Speaker 10: There's one force fed image of what a woman is

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Speaker 10: supposed to look like, how she's supposed to act, how

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Speaker 10: what shoes she should have in order to be sexy,

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Speaker 10: you have to be stupid in order to be successful,

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Speaker 10: be less challenging, don't contribute anything to the world because.

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Speaker 6: It's not cute.

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Speaker 10: Just all of these just perpetuating stereotypes that I just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's references, very clear reference. Isn't that clipper to

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Speaker 11: Have you met any of these girls?

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Speaker 10: Yes, And I don't think any of them are stupid.

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Speaker 10: So why you can't be that successful and that's and

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Speaker 5: M exactly. Self explanatory. Thank you, Pink, Good on you, Pink.

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Speaker 6: Let me tell you a story.

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Speaker 1: On time, Coley and leases the story behind the song.

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Speaker 2: Today's song is Sunday Bloody Sunday by You Two. It

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Speaker 2: is the opening track from their nineteen eighty three album War,

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Speaker 2: One of You Two's most overtly political songs. Its lyrics

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Speaker 2: in Northern Ireland, mainly focusing on the nineteen seventy two

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Speaker 2: Bloody Sunday incident in Derry where British troops shot and

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Bono has said in the past that he himself believes

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Speaker 3: interesting way of putting it, but it didn't mean that

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Speaker 3: the writing of Sunday Buddy Sunday.

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Speaker 6: When we wrote.

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Speaker 8: Sunday Bloody Sunday, I just tried as a lyricitizen It's

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Speaker 8: original thought, which is it contrasts Easter Sunday, which was

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Speaker 8: the rising in Ireland. It's one hundred years actually in

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Speaker 8: rose up at the Easter in revolt against Britain, and it.

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Speaker 5: Can trast Sunday Bloody Sunday.

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Speaker 8: Which was a massacre that happened in Derry in the

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Speaker 6: The resurrection, and that was that was a bit of

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Speaker 8: I think that was audacious at the very least to

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Speaker 2: During its earliest performances, Sunday Bloody Sunday did create controversy.

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Speaker 2: As you can imagine. Bono reasserted the song's anti sectarian

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Speaker 2: violence message to his audience for many years. But drummer

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Speaker 2: Larry Mullen said of the song, where into the politics

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Speaker 2: of people. We're not into politics. You talk about Sunday

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Speaker 2: Bloody Sunday and people think all that time when thirteen

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Speaker 2: to put up with this? He said, Let's forget the politics,

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Speaker 2: let's just stop shooting each other. And I guess that's

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Speaker 2: why Bono thinks the song has taken on new meaning

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Speaker 2: in later years.

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Speaker 7: So Blood Sunday the song has taken on a completely

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Speaker 7: new found meaning. On the innocence and experience tour, I

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Speaker 7: sing it from this other place, take away.

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Speaker 8: The kind of rock and roll approach is more acoustic,

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Speaker 8: and it seems to me more now that we have peace.

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Speaker 8: It reminds people, and we used images on the tour

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Speaker 8: to remind people of where where this song came from.

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Speaker 8: It reminds people that the hope I was playing that

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Speaker 8: that the division is never physical like a border. Real

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Speaker 8: borders are in people's hearts, the way we see each other.

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Speaker 8: And and I think that's that can be applied to

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Speaker 3: When they started working on the album of the war

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Speaker 3: album Bono and He's why then from you know what

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Speaker 3: New Wife, Ali were in the Caribbean on holidays, so

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Speaker 3: Edge stayed at time, it would have been a very

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Speaker 3: different album if Edge of being on holidays in Jamaica

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Speaker 5: You know he started very different honeymoon too, having three

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Speaker 5: three would have been on Let.

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Speaker 6: Me tell you a Story one time.

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Speaker 1: Coley releases the story behind the song.

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Speaker 2: This morning, we were talking about the Great Australian Songs

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Speaker 2: Year at the Arias last night, and this one came

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Speaker 5: Than a few times, got a few votes in.

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Speaker 2: It great Southern Land by ice House was released on

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Speaker 2: in August nineteen eighty two as the lead single from

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Speaker 2: two Countdown Music Awards, the song was nominated for Best

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Speaker 2: Australian Single. When it came out, The Guardian wrote, many

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Speaker 2: great Australian songs couldn't sound more different to the circumstances

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Speaker 2: in which they were dreamed up, and none more so

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Speaker 2: than ice House's nineteen eighty two classic Great Southern Land.

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Speaker 2: While the song evokes the vast emptiness of the nation's countryside,

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Speaker 2: it was written and recorded in Iva Davies' living room

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Speaker 2: and then Sydney suburb of Leichhart, right under the airport

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Speaker 5: Isn't that funny? So different than the subject matter?

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Speaker 2: And then we are plane going over. Apparently Iver frequently

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Speaker 3: Called it Great Southern Airlines, adn't he Yeah, he's ever

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Speaker 5: It's much easier to see.

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Speaker 9: In hindsight sort of where it came from because we

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Speaker 9: And I remember the flying from Sydney to Perth. I

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Speaker 9: until the point where we got to what looked like desert,

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Speaker 9: not much in particular, and I fell asleep over the desert,

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Speaker 9: not much in particular, and I didn't wake up for

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Speaker 9: two hours, and when I looked out again, we were

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Speaker 9: think it was that it was that moment, that light

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Speaker 3: It's a damn big continent. It's a very big It

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Speaker 3: was the moment where he went wow, yeah, how incredible.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Ten years ago this month was selected for inclusion in

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Speaker 3: the Australian National Film and Sound Archives Sounds of Australia list.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a pretty cool thing to get it gone.

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Speaker 2: For absolutely belongs in there real.

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Speaker 3: And I do wonder if tomorrow when the Aussie Boys

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Speaker 3: walk out they often use this song down at Optus

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Speaker 3: for the test match in India. If they play the

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Speaker 3: song again tomorrow to start a new cricket summer, it

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Speaker 3: seems to be one that they do well.

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Speaker 2: Iver didn't always think it would be a hit, and

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Speaker 2: he told our own Russell.

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Speaker 5: That I heard that you thought it might not actually

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Speaker 9: Liked it, right, everybody immediately liked it, but I was

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Speaker 9: terrified of it because it was five minutes and fifteen

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Speaker 9: that the record company said, when you take a single

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Speaker 9: fifty nine seconds, three minutes fifty nine seconds, that's fine.

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Speaker 9: If they see a four, forget it, they'll never play it.

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Speaker 9: I was trying I out a fire. We have a

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Speaker 9: very long note that started the front of it, and

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Speaker 9: the record company kind of discreetly tried to encourage me

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Speaker 9: about fifteen seconds on its own, and I'm very glad

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Speaker 9: I didn't, because our keyboard player at that time a

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Speaker 9: little while ago said, I've never kind of dreamed of

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Speaker 9: note and the entire audience would erupt, And that's exactly

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Speaker 6: Let me tell you a story.

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Speaker 1: Now at a time, Clearsy releases the story behind.

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Speaker 2: The song, the song behind the story behind the song.

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Speaker 2: Today is Money for Nothing by Dire Straits, the second

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Speaker 2: track on their fifth studio album, Brothers in Arms. It

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Speaker 2: was released as the album's second single in June nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty five. Now the lyrics are written from the point

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Speaker 2: of view of two working class men watching music videos

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Speaker 2: and commenting on what they see. Yeah, I think Mark

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Speaker 2: Knopfler can probably tell the story better as he did

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Speaker 2: when he appeared on Parkinson in two thousand.

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Speaker 11: Well, I was I was in New York and I

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Speaker 11: and it had a window, a kitchen window was playing

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Speaker 11: that's the way you do it, and stuff like that,

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Speaker 11: and what's that what's that Hawaiian noises he was saying.

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Speaker 11: And so I just thought it was so classic that

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Speaker 5: Down, you know, started taking notes at freehand. How good's that?

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Speaker 2: It was din Strait's most commercially successful single, peaking at

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Speaker 2: UK charts, picked at number four here. The songwriting credits

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Speaker 2: a share between Mark Knopfler and Sting. According to Knopfler,

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Speaker 2: he used the network slogan I Want my MTV after

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Speaker 2: which is written by Sting, hence the co writing credit.

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Speaker 2: But keyboard player Alan Clark claims the I Want My

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Speaker 2: MTV intro was his idea, oh not Nophlin's. He says

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Speaker 2: the song originally began with the guitar riff, and then

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Speaker 2: he developed the intro on keyboards and saying I want

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Speaker 2: my MTV on top during a break and rehearsals for

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Speaker 5: That's the kind of thing that will break a band.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely either way. How awesome was it when Sting joined

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Speaker 2: dire Straits at Live Aid to perform the track, which

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Speaker 2: would have been pretty much brand new at that time.

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Speaker 2: Either way, He's just glad he got the co running.

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Speaker 5: That's all he had to do, and it was a

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Speaker 3: I remember seeing that movie Under the Volcano, which is

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Speaker 3: the song and they go, jeesu, I wish Sting was

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Speaker 5: Goes, he's here.

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Speaker 3: He's going to record later at this studio with the police,

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Speaker 3: but he's on holidays, so they call him up, gett

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Speaker 3: him in and his wife Trudy said, that's going to

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Speaker 3: maybe it's okay. How wrong he was.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was a huge hit. It is a huge hitch.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And what a way to wrap up the story

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Speaker 5: behind the song.