1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday. It's the jam Nation podcast with Jones and 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Demanda jam singles. 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: This week it's all about Darryl. Thursday night, Daryl's going 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: to go on a date. It's us to us to 5 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: choose who that date is with from the many women 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: who've expressed interest in Darryl. So today we talk to 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: his daughter. You asked a very interesting question, you said, 8 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: who's this celebrity crush? What kind of celebrity woman is he? After? 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: Angler Merkle and Charlie's there on. They both have Germanic features. 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: They just also brush with fame. My Dumb Questioned Edition. 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 3: Tom Wilson he plays Biff Tannon in Back to the 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 3: Future and he's written a song about all the dumb 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: questions that he gets asked. 14 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: Yes, if you ever accosted a celebrity and asked a 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: really dumb question, we want to find out like that. 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Amanda Kella from Beyond two Thousands. 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: She's nice in the future. 18 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Will we all be floating in space? Rack Off? 19 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: Jane Hansen's joining us. She's an investigative journalist and she's 20 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: host of the podcast to Mother's Guilt. We're talking all 21 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: things Kathleen Folbig with her. 22 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: And the pub test, headphones at work. Does it pass 23 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: the pub test? It's quite a varied podcast. 24 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: Enjoy. 25 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 4: Everybody was now about a miracle of recording. 26 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 5: We had so many requests. 27 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 4: For them to do it again. 28 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 6: Mistress Amanda and MS Killer Amanda. 29 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 7: Doesn't work alone. 30 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: Friend is making the tools of the train. 31 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: I've heard them describe him as a drunken idiot, the 32 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: legendary part. 33 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 8: Jonesy Amanda the actress. 34 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: Congratulations, we're the reading right now. Josie and Amanda, you're 35 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 2: doing a great job. 36 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 5: It could be for anyone but Sophie Giant now the 37 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 5: time good radio. 38 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 8: Sorry but it's a tangled twist set and Amanda. 39 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: Shoot Timy, we're on the air of the Morning to you, Amanda, 40 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: how are you? 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: I am well. A lot of news to digest. 42 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: Around the world is going on in a yes. 43 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: I always think about that when I started here in 44 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: two thousand and three, that's when she. 45 00:01:59,280 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Went to jail. 46 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: Well, we've got to talk to a couple of people 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 2: about that. Today. We're going to talk to the Greens 48 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: MP su Higginson. She's the one who introduced emotion calling 49 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: for her to be pardoned, and that's what's kicked all 50 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: this along. And we're also going to between to Jane Hansen, 51 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 2: who's done a podcast called Mother's Guilt, which has been 52 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: deep diving into the story of Kathleen Folby. She's a 53 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: journalist who's followed this story right from the beginning. So 54 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: we will be across that. 55 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: Tell there's a lot of stories of play. 56 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: We've got the Brittany Higgins Bruce Leraman thing, You've got 57 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: the Ben Roberts Smith thing. 58 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: There's so many of these three stories, these three. 59 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: Huge stories, three big stories. 60 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Circulating in the universe. 61 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 9: Yeah. 62 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, And also the Adelaide nightclub has canceled and apologized. 63 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: It's the bra ladies brass eye drinking thing. 64 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 2: You know, we're all often told, doesn't it didn't it? 65 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 10: Tell? 66 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: You have an article? Well, workplaces are going. 67 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: To well, workplaces are going awake. 68 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: Listen to what this pub was arranging, offering free drinks 69 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: based on brass size as you had to hang your 70 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: bra up. The theme was the biggest, the better you 71 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: had to hang your bra up. It was an a cup, 72 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: you got one free drink, bea cup, to et cetera, 73 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: et cetera. Which what are you Ox Brendon, Is this 74 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: isn't it appropriate conversation? 75 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: Thinks we get in bloody hell? 76 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: You know, did you? You know we started this conversation saying, 77 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: isn't it outrageous that this stuff still happens? And you 78 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: asked that question. 79 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: So when the telegraph says woke is miss killing all 80 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: the workplace fun, Isaiah's not Isaiah, It's alive, and well, 81 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: I say, wow. 82 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: Uh we can instagram master. Wow. Wow, there's a bit. 83 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 7: Wow. 84 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm allowed to be shocked at when we say isn't 85 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: that awful that the club was going to do it? 86 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: And then you, I'm just the man, I'm pregnantic, think. 87 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: Questions. What's your braside? 88 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: How many drinks would we get out of it? A 89 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: jug out of it will surely action pack show. 90 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: Now bring back the wet t shirt competition in. 91 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: The workplace the worst. 92 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: I bet you've been part of those. 93 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: Well, you know it's funny you mentioned that years ago 94 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: when I was at Brisbane working at the radio station. 95 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: On Australia Day, they had the annual cockroach races. They 96 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: had these races. 97 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: Women got their areas out. No cock my mistake. 98 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: Okay, you're going to back it down a bit. Let's 99 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: just back down. I'd be okay before we start going crazy. 100 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: Anyway, the cock races have finished it up with the 101 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: MC and someone thought one of the street guys thought 102 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: it'd be good. I did have an impromptu wet T 103 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: shirt competition. This is nineteen ninety seven. And at that 104 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: point I said, you know what, I'd probably probably be 105 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: the inappropriate do you think and he went no, no, 106 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: to be good. 107 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: Girls like it. 108 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: And what I've learned about this business, people will always 109 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: do something. 110 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: If you've got a microphone and you can get people 111 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: to do anything. 112 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: So what happened was there was an impromptu wet I 113 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: had nothing to do with it. I was glad on 114 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: Monday when Jimmy Johnson said, which. 115 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: One of you see your boss? 116 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 3: Which one of you wits decided to have a wet 117 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 3: T shirt competition? 118 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: And I said, well it wasn't me. See you later. 119 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: So that was great and prompts you with what's those 120 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: words should never be said together? 121 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: Workplaces are so woke these days. You can have a 122 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: wet T shirt because Brend it's adequate. 123 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: Don't answer. You should be outraged that house. 124 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: I'm a man, I'm bragmetic That's what we do. We 125 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: can't do anything though, until we do the Magnificent Seven. 126 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: Question one, what common pets are pirates known to have? 127 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: Podcast? 128 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: We have for you the Magnificent Seven. There are seven questions. 129 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: Can you go all the way and answer all seven 130 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 3: questions correctly? If you do that, Amanda will say. 131 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: Don't ask me any personal questions. 132 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: But it's about getting questions seven right. Well, workism is 133 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: just killing the work. 134 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: Isn't it just We used to spontaneous good old T 135 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: shirt competition. 136 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: Miss those days that were great days. Mark's and Sandy Point, Hello, Mark, 137 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: how are. 138 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: You very well? Thank you? Question number one for you? 139 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: What common pets? I don't know how common they are? 140 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: Are pirates known to have? 141 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 11: Parrot? 142 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 7: Yeah? 143 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: Parrots? 144 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: What about his bucketeers? 145 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: Where are they brendan on your bucket? Because they live 146 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: for like one hundred years? 147 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: Pirates or parrots? 148 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: Parrots don't they're nothing of cockatoos. 149 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: Cockatoos live for a long time. 150 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so people get them and then someone has 151 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: to inherit that and it's just it's not an easy 152 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: pet to take on. 153 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: The lorikeets are out at the moment. Lora keats. If 154 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: someone squished on the road though, that's alway's a bad look. 155 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: It's like they travel in pairs, don't Yeah, I think 156 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: that's sad. Question two for you, Mark, where would you 157 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: find a spoiler on a car. 158 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: On the What does the spoiler do you know? 159 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 10: For? 160 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: Well, you've got the big faster and the furious wing 161 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: on the back of yours. 162 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: No, I don't. But what does it do? 163 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 3: Of course, well, you force a bit of down draft 164 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: and what does that do? Pushes the back of the 165 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: car down on the road. 166 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: And that's for Safety's is for handling all. 167 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: That sort of stuff. 168 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for your information. Well, Mark, you want 169 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: to jump in more than that, any more information than 170 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: Jones has given me? 171 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 10: No? 172 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, when I auditioned for top Gear later on today, 173 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: I'll talk about spoilers. 174 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: So you've given a spoiler about your forthcomings audition. This 175 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: is great. Let's play riff raps, understand, gotta keep. 176 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: Out the riffra What song has this riff? Mark? 177 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 10: Crazy? 178 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 7: Little thing called love? 179 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 12: Yes? 180 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: Which are these celebrities turned down having a star on 181 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: the Hollywood Walk of Hollywood Walk of Fame? 182 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: Was it a Phil Collins, B David Bowie or C Madonna. 183 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: Who turned it down, no idea, But I'll say David Bowie, No, 184 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: but no, wasn't David. 185 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: Question four of the Magnificent Seven, which of these celebrities 186 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: turned down having a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame? 187 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: Was it Phil Collins? Was it Madonna? The Magnificent Seven 188 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: where a question number four? 189 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: It's going to Rachel and Grace Point. Hello, Rachel, Hello, 190 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: very well, we've wiped out David Bowie from this conversation. 191 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: But which of these celebrities turned down having a star 192 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: on the Hollywood Walk of Fame? Was it Phil Collins 193 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: or Madonna? 194 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 12: Madonna? 195 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: It is Madonna. 196 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: I would have thought would be Phil Collins. Aving Madonna. 197 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: I don't know why she said no. But do you 198 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: wanted to put a into the cement? 199 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: That's why you do, because you go along. There's a 200 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: bit of a ceremony. 201 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: Yeah you have to, don't you have to put some 202 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: of your body parts? 203 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 7: I think no. 204 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: That's at the Man's Chinese Theater. 205 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: Oh is this different to this? 206 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. 207 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: In in Sydney, we've got our own Hollywood Walk of 208 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: Fame at Rudy Hill. Yeah you can go and surprise 209 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 3: we're not in that. We should have a little star 210 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: who's in? I think human nature and human nature? 211 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: Is human nature in there? 212 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure human nature. 213 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 2: When did they get human nature in? Then we should 214 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: be in. 215 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: Kathleen Folbig was pardoned yesterday after how many years in prison? 216 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: Race in credible story. Oh yeah, we're going to between 217 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: to a couple of people today about the turn of 218 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: events that's pardoned her. Question six, the eighteen revolves around 219 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: how many members of a former commando outfit? How many 220 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: eighteen were there ever? 221 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: In trouble? Rachel Or, Yeah, Brendan who was he had 222 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: Hannibal Colonel? 223 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: Was that George Papard? 224 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: That was George Papard and he had the face man 225 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: he was in there. 226 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: As we see the token handsome one that was Peck 227 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: And there was Murdoch and we see the handsome one. 228 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: Now he was the nut. Murdock was a nut and 229 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: b a baracus. A pity to fool that doesn't like this. 230 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: This brings you to question seven, Rachel Here we go. Stephen? 231 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 2: Is that how we say it? 232 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: Yep? 233 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: Stephen Sports is a company mostly known for making what Stephen? 234 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: Where have you seen the name Stephen? Where have you 235 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: seen the name Stephen? What do they make, Ah, Stephen, 236 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 2: I have no idea. 237 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 1: Runs in Helensburg? 238 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 2: Hi, Ron, Hi, very well, what does Stephen? They're a 239 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: sports company, what do they make. 240 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: Football? 241 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: And is it the Sharon that makes the af L? 242 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: Very good? Congratulations do you run run? It's all coming away. 243 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: I have time it of one case. 244 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: It's all coming your rain, it's all coming your ray 245 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: on one hundred and fifty dollars to spend on dinner 246 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: at your local club. Voting your local club the Perfect 247 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: Plate Awards Perfect Plate dot Com donate you what's your 248 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: local club run? 249 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity? 250 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: Well, thank George. 251 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 5: You'll wara no when you go. 252 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: For a club for a stag. 253 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: Well, you know when you're in Helensburgh, the tigers are 254 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: the Tigers. Acad a double passed us Slide night at 255 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: the Sydney Opera House hosted by Rave McManus. 256 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: You know he will see their run. 257 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: Well, and if you go to night, we're on because 258 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: it's on for a couple of what we on I 259 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: think the eighteenth Jonesy and I are on. We're I'm 260 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: wondering find out what day we're on. Okay, talk amongst yourself. 261 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: We're on the sixteenth, sixteenth run. 262 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: You'll see sixteenth. 263 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 10: Run. 264 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 2: Listen on a shell and he's going to throw it 265 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: in the bin if we got. 266 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: To see run in the crowd and Jonesie demanded character 267 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: jos for you to color and some stale of pancils 268 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: run anything you'd like to add? 269 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, well done, Good on you, Ron, good save, 270 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: thank you got a new one. We'll see you in 271 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: wext time makes no sense, makes no sense. 272 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 13: Jonesy and Amanda Germ podcast, Wake Up. 273 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: I don't feel like working today. Can I just stay 274 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 5: in bed? 275 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 3: Coming through the IM gonna make our big book of 276 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: musical facts Jim and Y. Right, what have you done 277 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: to your face? 278 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 14: Oh? 279 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a bit of a soccer injury, so 280 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 4: I got a black eye. 281 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: Now I've got a black eye. It's going to get worse, 282 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: isn't it before it gets better? 283 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 15: Yeah? 284 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 4: But I've been telling people that I left to fade down, 285 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 4: and Jonesy wasn't happy. 286 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: So perpetuate that I'm some sort of ougre. 287 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: The Daily Mail wants to pay me for an exclusion. 288 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: I believe the Daily Mail. I don't want to pay 289 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: you for anything. What about you've had a rough week? 290 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: Give the car. You've had your car blew up. 291 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still driving Dad's car. 292 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean he's getting angry at me because 293 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 4: it's starting to look like how my car was looking. 294 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: What does that mean? 295 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: I like cans everywhere. It's not I don't think it's 296 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 4: that bad. But he wasn't happy with it. 297 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, funny about that. 298 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: I spiled a bit of coke in the club, Coca 299 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: Cola type of coke. 300 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 15: Yeah, in the glove box, well, not like yeah, you 301 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 15: know the little cup holder, yeah, the glove boxes yeah, 302 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 15: the middle console. 303 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 10: Yeah. 304 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Dad didn't administer the black Eye did but 305 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: it probably felt like doing it and your car because 306 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, just for anyone that's just joined us. 307 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 3: Ryan forgot to put oil in his car even though 308 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: the little oil shaped lantern was lighting up for how long? 309 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 15: Well, I had a busy two weeks, so I didn't 310 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 15: have time to do it. And then the engined it sees, 311 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 15: so what's happening with it? I don't know, Like it's 312 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 15: just still where is it. It's just that the dealership 313 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 15: still like with the mechanics, and you've just left it 314 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 15: to them. 315 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: Well, it was like, oh do you guys want to 316 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: buy it? And they said no. I was like okay, 317 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 4: and that. 318 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: Was the last conversation. 319 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, find why wouldn't they want to buy it? 320 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: It was perfectly Now they're stuck with it. 321 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: Anyway. 322 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: On this nineteen eighty seven, Whitney Houston had her second 323 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: UK number one single with I Want to Dance with Somebody. 324 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: It reached number one in over a dozen other countries 325 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 3: and won a Grammy Award for Best Female Pop Performance 326 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty eight. You know a video has been 327 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: doing the rounds recently? Did you know it's been four 328 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: years since Whitney rose to fame when she had her 329 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: first appearance on the popular TV show The MERV Griffin Show. 330 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: She was nineteen years of age too. 331 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: Wow, time lead state and let me start. She could 332 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: build out a song. 333 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: Amazing, Okay, here we go. 334 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: Where is there a big note coming? 335 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 16: Oh? 336 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: What a shame? 337 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: Maybe she ran out of oil and blew up. It's 338 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: been a just over a decade since we lost Whitney. 339 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: By the way, did you know that ten years? O? 340 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: God, let's put one of her best ona WSFM. 341 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: Hello, there is Jonesy Demanda. We've been Whitney free for 342 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: over a decade. 343 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: Now, Wow, I thought it was longer than that. You 344 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: know how sometimes you go into a time warp me 345 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: think was it twenty years ago? 346 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: Or was it We've been doing the show for so long. 347 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: I've even forgotten how long we've been doing the show. 348 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: And we had our giant eighteenth book, and. 349 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: You'll be doing it for ages and a lot of 350 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: the kids that work in now we're in school. 351 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: Womb. 352 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Even pos Lady Millie. 353 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: When we started this show, I said, where were you? 354 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: And I was in fourth and I thought she meant 355 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: fourth form when we started the show. She was in 356 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: fourth grade at school. 357 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: She's a kid. 358 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: Now, you didn't even get that far. 359 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: Running around the place. 360 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: Hello, it's jonesy, demand cloudy, twenty degrees in the city 361 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: and our west right now it's fourteen, it's twenty to seven. 362 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 5: You know. 363 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: A film I'm really looking forward to seeing is the 364 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: Barbie Movie. I can't wait to see it. And I 365 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: think in the same way that toy story just captured 366 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: our imaginations. We saw all the old toys, even the 367 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: army Little Army figures and mister Potato had it made 368 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: your heart swell to see your childhood defined that way. 369 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: I think we're going to feel the same with the bust. 370 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: A bit of conjecture about Ryan Gosling. What are they saying, 371 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: We're saying it's too old to be Ken? It's only 372 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: forty two? 373 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: Is that too old to be Ken? Would have to 374 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: watch it to see from them images I've seen he 375 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: looks appropriate as Ken. And you need to get the 376 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: attitude right more than the plastic face. 377 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: What's Ken's attitude? 378 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: Well, you know that sort of Gaurmleus, genital free man, 379 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: did you get a call up? Let me tell you 380 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: why I think Barbie's going to be incredible because the director, 381 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 2: this fantastic director, her her name is Greta Gerwick, and 382 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: she has decided not to use any CGI for the 383 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: Barbie Kingdom. Oh so there's no CGI. So that meant 384 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: that in recreating all the suburbs, the towns, the village 385 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: where they live, all the bits and pieces needed to 386 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: be painted in this very particular shade of pink. She 387 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: said that she wanted to maintain the kidness, as she said, 388 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: she didn't want to forget what made me fall in 389 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: love with Barbie when I was a little girl. So 390 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: she wants you to feel that giant stab of nostalgia 391 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: when you look at it, so that it's all real, 392 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: and it's all this particular shade of pink, which has 393 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: meant that there's a worldwide shortage now of pink paint. 394 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: So apparently the dream house, the lampposts, the roads, the 395 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: dolls houses, all of it is in this shade that 396 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: is now no longer available. It caused an international shortage 397 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: of pink paint. The world ran out of pink. 398 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, so we've got no pink left apparently not. 399 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: How's Christian Wilkins going to decorate his bedroom? 400 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: It's a question for you to ask him. 401 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: I think. 402 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 2: Blame Barbie. 403 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: He blamed Barbie. Christian Comcast Well. 404 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: Last week, Green's spokesperson for Justice, Sue Higginson introduced a 405 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: motion calling on Attorney General Michael Daily to pardon Kathleen Folbig. 406 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: Yesterday it was done. The fifty five year old who 407 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 2: was jailed for two decades for the murder of her 408 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 2: four children walked free after there was evidence of reasonable 409 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: possibility that three of those children died of natural causes. 410 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: An extraordinary day for science, an extraordinary day for justice. 411 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 2: Su Higginson joins us Now Hello Sue, good morning. How 412 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: did you first get involved in this case? How did 413 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: you become a champion here? Look I'm not a champion, 414 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 2: but oh yes, I think you are. 415 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 6: No. 416 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 11: I got involved quite recently, to be frank like, I 417 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 11: heard about this like every other Australian over the years. 418 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 11: But I got involved at the level of detail of 419 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 11: which I know now only a couple of months ago. 420 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 10: It was actually just after the election when I became 421 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 10: the portfolio holder for the Greens the Justice. I looked 422 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 10: at the inquiry, I looked at the evidence. 423 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 11: I read the thousands of pages of this inquiry, the 424 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 11: former inquiry, went back to media articles, and I couldn't. 425 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 10: Believe that we were sitting all of us on top 426 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 10: of all of that. 427 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 11: Notwithstanding there was clear evidence now of reasonable doubt, and 428 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 11: there was a woman still languishing in a prison, and 429 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 11: nobody other than her champions, nobody in the position of power, 430 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 11: were actually doing. 431 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 10: The right thing. And that's when I contacted the Attorney General. 432 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 10: I made please to him directly. I wrote letters to him. 433 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 10: I wrote letters to the Premier. 434 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 11: I contacted the Premier's chief of staff, and then I 435 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 11: put a motion and notice of motion to the Parliament last. 436 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: Week, and this genetic come to g one one for 437 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: our gene that was pretty much discovered in twenty twenty one. 438 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: As far as a contributing factor. 439 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I actually the more I've looked, the more 440 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 11: I realize it really is. You know, those medical scientific 441 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 11: experts who were speaking publicly back then in twenty twenty one. 442 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 11: I think there was even an article of one of 443 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 11: the experts at A and U saying we've found the 444 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 11: cause of death of two of kathleen folbigg babies. 445 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 10: All the way back then, as you rightly point out. 446 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 11: That should have been more than an alarm bell to 447 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 11: us that as lawyers. 448 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 10: I mean that's the other thing. 449 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 11: Look, I have the advantage of having a law background. 450 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 11: I've been a practically lawyer for decades. But as soon 451 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 11: as I started putting these pieces together, that's when I realized, oh, no, 452 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 11: we're holding somebody in prison wrongfully. And let's remember, our 453 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 11: entire criminal justice system is based on the very foundation 454 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 11: that nobody should have their liberty or freedom taken unless 455 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 11: they're charged and convicted beyond a reasonable doubt. 456 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 2: Extraordinary day yesterday to see Kathleen released to the home 457 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 2: of her great friend and another wonderful champion, Tracy Tracy Chapman. 458 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: Have you spoken to either of them. 459 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 11: I've spoken to Kathleen's lawyer. I've left the women. I'll 460 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 11: catch up with them today. But I mean last night, 461 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 11: when I was getting messages that. 462 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 10: You know, cups of tea, pizzas, pajamas, hugs, tears, laugh, 463 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 10: I just yeah, I. 464 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 11: Mean, I think we were all in joyous amounts of 465 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 11: tears with the whole scenario. 466 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 10: It's hard to mind kids they. 467 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 7: Were like young. 468 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 10: It felt like they were you know, it felt like 469 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 10: there was young girls at the party. That's how it 470 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 10: felt from where I was. 471 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 5: Oh. 472 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine, though, what the last twenty years 473 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: have been like. Because there's Kathleen mourning her children, confused 474 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: by why they've passed away, knowing she wasn't responsible. In 475 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 2: solitary confinement for six years, it's hard to not have 476 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: your heart bleed for her. 477 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 11: I don't think any of us can really really imagine 478 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 11: or contemplate. I think that you know, a lot of 479 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 11: us try to put our feet in those shoes and 480 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 11: really have a go. But you know, and then you 481 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 11: go and make your own cup of tea or then 482 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 11: you go and walk outside into the sunshine, or then 483 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 11: you go and pick up your own book, or you 484 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 11: jump in your own bed, you know. I mean that's 485 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 11: what on Saturday morning, when I wasn't aware, you know, 486 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 11: we'd had the notice of motion debate, the Attorney General 487 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 11: and the current government seemed to have bunkered down on 488 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 11: their position. 489 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 10: No, we're going to wait. We're going to wait. 490 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 11: We're going to wait for the final writing of the 491 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 11: former Chief Justice of New South Wales his findings in 492 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 11: writing We're going to wait. On Saturday morning, I remember 493 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 11: just waiting up in my own bed and feeling these 494 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 11: ways of absolute fury and frustration and despair and sadness. 495 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 10: And yet this morning I woke up differently. For the 496 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 10: it felt very different. 497 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 3: It's going to take some time for Kathleen. She was 498 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: branded Australia's worst serial killer in a family for all 499 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: those years. It's going to take a long time for people, 500 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: the public to come to the realization that she is 501 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: indeed innocent. 502 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 11: Look what I mean, really, we've got to take a 503 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 11: long hard look at you know, what did happen, how 504 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 11: that happened. There's lessons for all of us in this. 505 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 11: You know she was called a monster. As you say, 506 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 11: I mean this. I've compared this to the Lindy Chamberlain case, 507 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 11: and it is it is. In fact, in many ways, 508 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 11: this case is far worse and we did far more 509 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 11: deeper and greater, longer term wrongs. We've got to remember, 510 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 11: there was never any actual evidence whatsoever around the murder 511 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 11: or the manslaughter or the harm of those children. It 512 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 11: was Kathleen's conviction was one hundred percent based on tendency, 513 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 11: coincidental evidence and legal theories that have long been discredited 514 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 11: and that we now know we're very gendered, anti sort 515 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 11: of mother type of legal theories. You know, one child dying, 516 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 11: maybe sudden infant death syndrome. To goodness, gracious, three or four, 517 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 11: you've got a murderous mother that wasn't coping on your hands. 518 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 10: That's all been discredited for a long time now. 519 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: God, and the diary entries to what new mother isn't 520 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: having a terrible time and saying wish states And. 521 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: Also you look at her her history of a father 522 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: murders her mother. You know, she's put into foster homes 523 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: like her whole life. 524 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: You see, and then you wonder, you know, no wonder 525 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: she doesn't. She didn't respond emotionally same as Lindy in 526 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: the way that we expected her to. We punished her 527 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: for that too, exactly. 528 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 11: I mean, this is not the perfect mother, not the 529 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 11: expert at least you know now and as we heard 530 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 11: in the inquiry with the psychological and psychiatric expert evidence, 531 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 11: now at least we have much deeper understanding around mothers. 532 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 10: None of us have perfect mothers. 533 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 11: No, not those polar Kodak sandwich making perfect women. 534 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 2: Are we We're mothers, you know. 535 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 11: So yeah, what a fantastic day to day and Kathleen 536 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 11: is free, and we do we need. 537 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 10: To look at our legal processes. 538 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 11: We need to look It was very difficult for Kathleen 539 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 11: to get to this point and her legal team, I mean, 540 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 11: my goodness, Ronnie Rego a solicitor. 541 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 10: Who has worked for years fully pro bono, around the. 542 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 11: Clock with lawyers telling her, oh what are you doing, 543 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 11: You're wasting your time, This will never come to pass. 544 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 11: And tonight, you know, last night they were united in 545 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 11: freedom together. 546 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: That's great, brilliant. So thank you for joining us this morning, 547 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: Sue Higgins and greens MP. Good work. 548 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 11: Thank you, Sue, my pleasure and good work all those 549 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 11: people and champions out there. 550 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: Great absolutely sure vision. 551 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 7: Rights, free money. 552 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: Instances and Amanda's screw. 553 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: There's ten questions sixty seconds on the clock. 554 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 3: You can pass if you don't know an answer, We'll 555 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: come back to that question of time permits. If you 556 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: get all the questions right, you win one thousand. 557 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: Dollars, and then we ask you another question. Do you 558 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: want to double your money? We asked you a question eleven. 559 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 2: Forget that right, you get two thousand dollars. But if 560 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 2: you don't, you get nothing. 561 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: Let's get there first. Alex is in kings Langley. 562 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: Oh, Alex, very well, right, thank you. Now you know 563 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: how this works. By now, if you're not sure, please 564 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: say pause because we generally have time to come back. Yep, okay, 565 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 2: because if you're wrong, it's all over. Let's see how 566 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: you can go, Alex. You're ready to start, all right, 567 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: Let's go ten question sixty seconds. We begin here. Question 568 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: one what does four plus four equal eight? Question two? 569 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: Perth is the capital of which Australian state? Question three, 570 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: which insect is known for producing honey. Question four. Kel 571 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 2: Knight from the TV show Kath and Kim is married 572 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: to who in the show Question five Russell Crowe Cohens. 573 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: Which Rugby League teams? Question six? The Statue of Liberty 574 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: is in which American city? 575 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 10: New York? 576 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 2: Question seven? Which rock band is known for their song Californication? 577 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: Question eight? Who is Nicole Kidman's ex husband? Question nine? 578 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 2: Which airline calls themselves the Spirit of Australia? Question ten? 579 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: What force keeps objects on the ground? What force keeps 580 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: objects on the ground? Question four. Kel Knight from the 581 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: show Kath and Kim is married to who? 582 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 12: Or kel Knight married to. 583 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: Park? Which rock band is not on Californication? The Grand 584 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: out of Time? Kel is married to Cath. Yeah, and 585 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 2: would you have known who's saying Californication if you had 586 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: a bit more time up your sleep? 587 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 12: Yeah, it would have the vocals it would have been Anthony. 588 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a red hot Chili Peppers and Nicole Kidman's 589 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: ex husband? And Tom Cruise? Ever heard of Tom Cruise? 590 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: And what force keeps objects on the ground? It's gravity? Sorry, 591 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 2: a hundred bucks for your groceries and thank you. 592 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: You gave it a gay. 593 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 2: So you're the big back to the Future perv amongst us. Okay, 594 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, No, you know all the details, and 595 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: I like the movies, but I don't remember any details 596 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: from that. You know it all? 597 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: Can you don't remember any details? 598 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: Who was Biff? 599 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: Biff Tannant? 600 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: He was the bully, right, he was the bully who 601 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: gets his come up? 602 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 3: And who is George McFly's nemesis? And Marty McFly goes 603 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: back to the future and sorts out the bully? 604 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: No, no, no, he doesn't mean to. 605 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: He goes back by accident, but in the meantime sorts 606 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: out the bully. 607 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: Well, he goes back, but then he changes his own timeline. 608 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: See that's right, and then he doesn't existings Well. The 609 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: actor who plays Biff Tannant, his name is Tom Wilson, 610 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: and he's written a very funny song about all these 611 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: years later. The questions he still gets asked. 612 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 7: The plane or I'm on the street. There there's a 613 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 7: lot of friendly people that I like to meet. 614 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 17: They shake my head, but never ask my name, and 615 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 17: they start asking questions that are always the same. 616 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 7: Hey, what's Michael J. 617 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: Fox like? 618 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 7: He's nice? What's Christopher Lloyd like? Kind of quiet? What's 619 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 7: Christian Lover like? Unusual? Will stop asking me the question? 620 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 7: I went to the bar Mitzpae of my nephew Josh. 621 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 7: I'm not Jewish, but I like to nash and put 622 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 7: on my Yamatos started to pray. When the rabbit lean 623 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 7: all the around. I heard him say, Hey, was that 624 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 7: real manure? No? 625 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 9: It was it? 626 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 7: How was that Haloian? He's of garbage? Do those hover 627 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 7: boards really fly? It's a movie. Stop asking me the question, 628 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 7: can we take your picture? Come on? Look mean? 629 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 17: Would you call my friend a butthead on his answering machine? Questions, 630 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 17: questions fill my head. 631 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 7: I went to my doctor. My doctor said, what does 632 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 7: a key grip duke set up lights? What does the 633 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 7: best boy do help the key grit? What does a 634 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 7: producer do? I don't know. Stop asking me the question. 635 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 7: Do you all hang out together? No, we don't. How's 636 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 7: Crispin Glover? I never talked to him. Back to the 637 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 7: future for not happening. Stop asking me the question, Hey, 638 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 7: who's the nicest famous guy? You don't Adam Sandler? Who 639 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 7: is the biggest jerk? Gary Busey? How much money do 640 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 7: you make more than you do? So? Stop asking me 641 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 7: the question? 642 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: True, yea, so true? 643 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: Dumb questions. And I've seen an entire Reddit thread of 644 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 2: people who meet a famous person and ask them the 645 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: dumbest question. This is one back when Avril Ravine was 646 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: newly famous. I was walking through the art gallery in Ontario. 647 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: There's a woman in front of me with an ass 648 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: crack hanging out. Bring punk close. I said to my friend, 649 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: I'll look another beep and every wanna be She turned 650 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: around and said, I am a matter a fact, that's 651 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: my I heard Han Solo's feeling, says this guy. I 652 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: was walking down Third Street promenade in Santa Monica and 653 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: my girlfriend looked up and said, look, there's Harrison Ford 654 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: over there. I looked and I didn't see him. My 655 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: girlfriend kept saying, look, it's there, it's hands Solo. My 656 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: response was, what that old guy, at which point Harrison 657 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: Ford looked directly at me he had heard. He said, 658 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: My face dropped, and I feel bad to this day. 659 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 16: Ah. 660 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 3: You know, I remember years ago, we're over in LA 661 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: We're on this family trip, and it was just when 662 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: the Transporter movie thing had come out, and you know 663 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: Jason Statham, so his star was on the rise. 664 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: You know, he'd been in the Italian Job and all 665 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. But I'd been watching the Transport 666 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: a movie. And then we're walking along in. 667 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: Hollywood and I said to my brother, I said, hey, 668 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 3: look that's that's the guy from the from the movie 669 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: watching on the plane. He's what a transporter guy? 670 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: Because what's his num? I said, I don't know, but 671 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: that he's coming towards us. He's coming towards us. He goes, 672 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: should say hello? 673 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 3: I said no, because that would be the worst thing 674 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: as an actor is to say, there's a public person 675 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: to say, yeah, I like you in that movie, but 676 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 3: you don't know their name. 677 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: So he's walking a lot along towards us. 678 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: What happened? 679 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: And we'd had a few able terrible goofy brothers, Hey dude, 680 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: love you in that movie? 681 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 18: Yes? 682 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, thanks, Yeah, transport guy. And I'm the one 683 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: that said transporter guy. So my brother ended up getting 684 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 3: that thank you and yeah, transporter guy, you really. 685 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: Didn't you embarrass yourself in front of Et the footballer. 686 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 15: Oh. 687 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: I was paddling along and I was on the stand 688 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: up paddle board. I was listening to my ear pods 689 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: and there was Et just fishing, and I. 690 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 3: Paddled past him and we looked at each other and hey, Et, 691 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: And because I was listening to a podcast. I wasn't 692 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: really paying attention to what I was saying, so I 693 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: just said at he's staying hard, and he looked at me, 694 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 3: and I looked at him and I went, I don't know, 695 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: and we. 696 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: Gone, you. 697 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: You know, he's on a craft you need it, and 698 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm not really paying attention. So he just looked at me, 699 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: just perplexed. 700 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: And I'd like to take that back. I don't know 701 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: what that means. 702 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: Well, Jeff, who does a lot of our production work here, 703 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: said he years ago met the Red Hot Chili Peppers 704 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: and he wanted to ask him a question. He opened 705 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: his mouth, his chewing gum fell out onto them. Didn't 706 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: even get to ask a dumb question. He dreams of 707 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: asking a dumb question. He's spat at them pretty much. 708 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: Maybe this is something that trouble Drop world. 709 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: We'll call it this brush with fame, my dumb question. 710 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 7: You don't know asking me the question. You meet someone. 711 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: Famous and you you asked the stupidest thing. People say 712 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: to me, are you still doing that stupid little show? 713 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: And then they apologize because it's the first thing that 714 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: they've it's come out, and then they go, oh, sorry. 715 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: About that which stupid little show would appear. 716 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: Well, who knows all of them are completely stupid? 717 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: Podcast today you brought this to the table. 718 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 2: Well, have you ever stepped up to a celebrity or 719 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: you've seen them in the street, or you meet them 720 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: and you walk up to them and you ask the 721 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: dumbest question you can and you say something so ridiculous 722 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: you want to punch your own face. 723 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: Particularly with actors. 724 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: As well, because you don't really know them as their name, 725 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: you know them as the character that they play. 726 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 2: Well, all sorts of things can happen. As I said, Jeff, 727 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: who works with us, was meeting the Red Hot Chili peppers. 728 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 2: He so overwhelmed me up in his mouth to ask 729 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: a question, a dumb question, and she chewing gum fell 730 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: out and that was the end of it. 731 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: Dropped gum on them. Yeah, how big is Jeff that 732 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: he's towering over the Red Hot. 733 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: Chili pep And then he didn't even follow through with 734 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 2: the question. That's all he did. Strible drum is beating 735 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: for brush with fame? My dumb question, I don't know. 736 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 7: Stop asking me the question. 737 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: Brad has joined us Oho, Brad? 738 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 2: What happened? 739 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 19: I was driving along with Lady Macquarie's chair down in 740 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 19: the city and we spotted Russell Crowe pushing a prayer 741 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 19: and this is about fifteen years ago, and my mate 742 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 19: pipped the horn and Russell J. Juster scared him and 743 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 19: I jumped out because I'm support to get his autographed 744 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 19: and he told me to piss off and walking because 745 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 19: we scared him. You know, Oh yeah you can. 746 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: That's what we're asking. 747 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 2: Talking with his kid. So good, Thank you, Brad. 748 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 13: We're off and running Jonesy and Amanda Germ podcast. 749 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: There's no sound. 750 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 7: Oh silly me. 751 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: I guess the problem with being a character actor is 752 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 3: no one knows your actual name, as is the case 753 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 3: with Tom Wilson, who plays Big Tannon in the Back 754 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 3: to the Future series. 755 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: People come up to him and ask him the same 756 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 2: questions over and over again. What's Michael J. Fox? 757 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 9: Like? 758 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: Was there really a hoverboard? He says, you know what? 759 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 3: It was a movie, the tribal dramas, beating for my 760 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: dumb question, the frame edition. 761 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 7: I don't know, stop asking me the question. 762 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 2: Colin has joined us, right, Colin, what dumb question did 763 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 2: you ask? Who was it? 764 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 13: It was there? 765 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 12: Robert Patterson from Twilight well, I didn't know about Twilight, 766 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 12: so that was why I was got out for a start. 767 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 12: I was basically expressed. I managed to get to the 768 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 12: next level in terms of my frequent fly staters. And 769 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 12: I was in the first class lounge in Chicago, and 770 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 12: I was like feeling a bit snobby, I guess, and 771 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 12: I saw all these people there, and there was this 772 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 12: one guy. He had a hud he had a Venie 773 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 12: on and I thought I was just asking him what 774 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 12: the Wi Fi password was, and he looked at me 775 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 12: very strange because why was I asking him such a question. 776 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 12: But I had no idea who he was. He actually 777 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 12: gave me the password, and then I went and sat down, 778 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 12: and I saw the people going up to him and 779 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 12: asking him photographs and. 780 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 2: Was like, oh, okay, I wonder if you thought you 781 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 2: were refreshing Colin. 782 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 12: Possibly possibly, But I never watched Twilight. I had no 783 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 12: idea it was. It was just out of context, right, Yeah, 784 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 12: and he gave you the. 785 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: Wi Fi password. 786 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: It's funny how he looked at you, thinking, right, you've 787 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 2: kind of to ask me that. 788 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: I would have doubled down as well, can you get 789 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: us a drink? Where where do you get a drink 790 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: from around you. 791 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me where the toilets aren't. 792 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: Get right into it. 793 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: Let's get on down to the jonesy nomatter of arms 794 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 3: for the pub test and today headphones at work do 795 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 3: they pass the pub test? 796 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 2: Well, when you're working from home during COVID headphones, of course, 797 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: well do a reverse so you can block up the 798 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 2: sounds of your kids and your pets and the roadworks 799 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: and all of the rest of it. 800 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: But people are still. 801 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 2: Wearing them now they're back in the office. Debretz, which 802 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: is the two hundred and fifty old year old British 803 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: etiquette Bible, has decided to settle to the debate once 804 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 2: in from. 805 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: All phone's been around that long, and they have. 806 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 2: Said, if you work in an open plan office where 807 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: there's frequent conversation and interchange of ideas between colleagues, don't 808 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: wear air pods or headphones. You will be a much 809 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 2: more valuable staff member if you stay alert, tune into 810 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: conversations around you, and make a contribution. 811 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 3: What about if you're on Skype or you're having a 812 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 3: bit of a catch up with people through a zoom meeting, Well. 813 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 2: What if you've actually got to concentrate these Open plan 814 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 2: officers are the undoing of affective workplace. Office says here, 815 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, be open to conversation. What if there's just 816 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 2: goof off conversation. Someone's collecting money for a birthday, someone's 817 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 2: coming up and asking your plans for the weekend. 818 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: I sort of thing, join this is goof off central 819 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: around here. 820 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: Well, we're on air, so we're the worst of the goofs. 821 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 2: But I saw this thing. It was like a portable barrier. 822 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 2: You know those barriers they have at the airport where 823 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 2: they can just put them up anywhere. You pull out 824 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: that piece of material and click it into another device. 825 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about. I know exactly what 826 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: you're talking and I saw one that just was being 827 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 2: advertised to have them in your office. So if your 828 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: new little cubicle, you can say I'm busy or I'm concentrated. 829 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: Actually says something on the barrier. 830 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: Yes, that's pretty cool, because in open plan offices, how 831 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: does anyone get any work? 832 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: No one does. 833 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 3: The open plan offices is the biggest goof off thing 834 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 3: ever invented, and part. 835 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 2: Of that's the fun of going into work. But there 836 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 2: are moments when you want to focus. Is it okay 837 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: to be wearing your. 838 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: Head what you put their headphones on, but you've got 839 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: nothing going on there. And then you can just hear 840 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: what people are saying. You get some juicy stuff about you. 841 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: Would I Branda, they say behind my. 842 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: Back, say in front of your face? 843 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 2: Is it okay to wear headphones at work? What do 844 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 2: you think? Do they pass? The pub test. 845 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 13: Podcast? 846 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: So whoam me? 847 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 7: So woae me? 848 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 13: No need to feel sad and gloom. Let Jones and 849 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 13: a man to find. 850 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 3: Love for here, being the armchair experts we are, we 851 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 3: watched marrit at First Sight and we both said we 852 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 3: can match people up better than those guys. 853 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: I don't even watch it because I know they're not 854 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 2: sincerely looking for love. They're looking for drama. But a 855 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 2: whole lot of Sydney is looking for love. That's what 856 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: we've determined here. 857 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 3: And as Bond Scott said, I tell you folks, it's 858 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 3: harder than it looks. A Laura and Laura and Nick 859 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 3: who we try to and they look good on paper, but. 860 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: Well there was no spark. 861 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: Well I will say this. A Laura did say she 862 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: feels like she's going to get out there again, So 863 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. 864 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 2: That helped her with a confidence. This week, we're trying 865 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 2: to get Darryl. Find Darryl some love. He's going on 866 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 2: a eight Thursday night. We're trying to find who the 867 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 2: right person for Darryl is. 868 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: We put Dale under the Jam Singles microscope. 869 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 2: What would you like us to look for? 870 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 5: Someone that's compassionate, someone that's caring, empathetic and just loves life. 871 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 2: And in terms of physically, what would you like us? 872 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 2: Is there anything you think you know you don't like 873 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 2: curly hair or anything like that. 874 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 7: No. 875 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 5: I think if there's a sparkle or some attraction, you'll 876 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 5: get past most things. 877 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 2: On a weekend, what does Daryl do? 878 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 5: I generally play golf on a Saturday morning, yep. 879 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 3: Or so you go on for a few hours, and 880 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 3: that could be an attractive trade ladies. By the way, 881 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 3: he's not going to bother you on a Saturday. 882 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 5: Or I'm at the gym org for breakfast, or go 883 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 5: and do some shopping. 884 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. And so you like to eat out? 885 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 5: Yeah I do. 886 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 2: That's how much we've learned about Darryl. But Daryl couldn't 887 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 2: tell us about himself. That's hard to talk yourself all around. 888 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 2: So we thought we'd talked to his daughter Peter, who 889 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 2: joined us. Now, hello, Pete are hello? 890 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: How are you when you live in Brisbane? Don't you? 891 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 9: No, I'm actually in Melbourne, but your. 892 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: Brother lives in Brisbane. That's right, yes, And Daryl's in 893 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: the middle. 894 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 2: So tell us a bit about Darryl, because he's so 895 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: he seems so lovely. We know he likes the sharks. 896 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 2: We know he likes his sport. Tell us about the 897 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 2: man that your dad is. 898 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 9: Umm. He does love sports, that's for sure. But he 899 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 9: also is a big romantic. I think at heart always 900 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 9: puts the women in his life first. 901 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and looking at past relationships, have you got a 902 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 2: sense of the kind of woman he should be with. 903 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 12: I think he's pretty open to. 904 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 9: Anyone as long as I think he said, as long 905 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,959 Speaker 9: as the spark there, they can get through most things. 906 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,760 Speaker 9: I think as long as as long as this woman 907 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 9: is compassionate and easygoing, I think that will prevail. 908 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 2: Because he did say he didn't want any drama queens 909 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: and that kind of thing he likes. 910 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, he is easy going and I think that that 911 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 9: would be a good match to someone who would just 912 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 9: be as easy going as him. 913 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so if he was a famous woman. Who does 914 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: he like in. 915 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 12: Um, great question. 916 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 9: I'd probably say maybe like Charlie Tharn. 917 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying. I get that. 918 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 2: And he also said he doesn't particularly want a vegan, 919 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 2: so he likes his meat. 920 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 12: He does like his meat, yes, yep, okay, So anything. 921 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: Else you can tell us, Peter, because Jonesy and I 922 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: are going to sift through the many women who's expressed 923 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 2: interest in in your dad. Anything else you can give 924 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 2: us to help us on our journey. I think he 925 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 2: wants to spend. 926 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 9: His weekends, you know, going out going to the gym 927 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 9: or going for a hike, or going. 928 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 12: Out for a brunch. 929 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,959 Speaker 9: So someone that would kind of fit in that would 930 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 9: be really good for him. 931 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: Yep. 932 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 9: And I think someone who was like what as well, 933 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 9: I mean trying to steel break up, but I think 934 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 9: that would really helped you. 935 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 3: Well, Peter, Yeah, this is like, you know, we're organizing 936 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 3: a potential step mom for you, So it's. 937 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 2: Not a pressure. 938 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: There's a there's a lot of pressure there, all right. 939 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 2: And I guess I'm sure whoever it is will need 940 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: to seal of approved. 941 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: And we don't want someone on a broom that's got 942 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: a big cauldron, a big witch. 943 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 5: He knows. 944 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: No, you've scared Peter. I'm just saying we're going to 945 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 2: do our best Peter, because he's a lovely guy and 946 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 2: he's going out on a date on Thursday nights. I'm 947 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 2: sure you'll hear all about it. 948 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 9: I will, I sure will. 949 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for the intel. 950 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 7: God. I want you to get on right now. I'm 951 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 7: taking pleasing. Now go to your windows, stick your. 952 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 13: Head on and yell as hell. 953 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 3: Down to the jonesy no matter of arms for the 954 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 3: pub test today. Headphones at work? Do they pass the 955 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 3: pub test? 956 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 2: What the people started wearing these when they're walking from 957 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 2: home to working from home to block out all the noise, 958 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 2: and now people are wearing them in the office. 959 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: Is it okay? 960 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 2: The etiquette advisor for the Bretts, which is the British 961 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 2: Etiquette Bible, has said, if you work in an open 962 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 2: plan office where there's frequent conversation and interchange of ideas 963 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 2: between colleagues, don't wear air pods or headphones. 964 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: What about you see someone wearing those massive, big headphones. 965 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 2: It is slightly antisocial. At the same time, sucko. We 966 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 2: now have these big open plan officers. If you want 967 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: to actually get some work done, maybe you need to zone. 968 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: You see someone wearing those, and you get a real 969 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: ff vive about it, don't you. 970 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe they're noise counseling too. 971 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah you're seeing walking around here. Well, clearly we're not 972 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 1: engaging in any sort. 973 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 2: Of conversation, and that person maybe has a really important 974 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,840 Speaker 2: day of work ahead of them and doesn't care about 975 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 2: the conversation on having a chat to someone or contributing 976 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 2: to someone's birthday gift or hearing all the gossip. I 977 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 2: don't know. How do you seal headphones at work? Do 978 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 2: they pass the PUB test? 979 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: I work from. 980 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 20: Home and at work the only time we have ezhone 981 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 20: genius for meetings and stuff like that, So you need 982 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 20: to engage with your birthday and it's a real connection, 983 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 20: and also we listen to the WSSM. 984 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 6: Yes, it does past. 985 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 20: The pub test, definitely. 986 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 6: I work in an office that's not a big office, 987 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 6: but it is open planet. There's multiple people set and 988 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 6: it's our social area, and there is no way I 989 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 6: would get it done out headphones. 990 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 12: And my boss encourages us. 991 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 6: Wear headphones where it's signed to concentrates and others. 992 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 19: Then it goes past the pub test well, because some 993 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 19: jobs are so boring that you need to keep entertained 994 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 19: some way, and I reckon music helps them. 995 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 20: It absolutely passes the pub test, especially. 996 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 9: If you're my colleagues, because I sing all day and 997 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 9: I'm so annoying and they all block me out with 998 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 9: their headphones, and I'm not offended at all. 999 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 2: I can see why that's happened. 1000 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: Not life is dream factory. Everyone heat wears headphones. 1001 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 2: Actually we do. That's how we zone in. 1002 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. Thank you for your calls. Podcast. 1003 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of news going on at the moment, big, 1004 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: big news go on. 1005 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 3: We have got the Ben Roberts Smith thing, We've got 1006 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 3: the Bruce Lherman and the Brittany Higgins thing. And now 1007 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 3: Kathleen Folbeg, which I started this radio station twenty years ago, 1008 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 3: just as she was going into jail. 1009 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 2: She's been pardoned. It's been an extraordinary couple of hours, 1010 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 2: hasn't it for her her first night of freedom? Last 1011 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 2: night I saw on the news she was making it. 1012 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 2: She's staying with her friend and great champion, Tracy Chapman, 1013 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 2: and she was making a cup of tea. It's the 1014 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 2: first time she's used a metal spoon in twenty years. Incredible, 1015 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 2: isn't it. We spoke earlier in the show to Sue Higginson. 1016 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 2: She's a Greens MP and she is the Green spokesperson 1017 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 2: for Justice. She introduced the motion calling on the Attorney 1018 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 2: General to pardon Kathleen Folbeck. She said, once she looked 1019 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 2: into that case, looked into the new science, she said, 1020 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 2: how could this possibly still be seen as beyond reasonable doubt? 1021 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 2: So she was the one that started this ball rolling, 1022 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 2: and there we were yesterday, the announcement that she's been pardoned. 1023 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,719 Speaker 2: I don't know if she's been declared innocent. We might 1024 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 2: talk to our next guest about that. 1025 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: And Jane Hansen would certainly know that. She is an 1026 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 1: investigative journalist. 1027 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 3: She is also the host of Mother's Guilt and she'll 1028 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,439 Speaker 3: be joining us next It's fourteen past eight. 1029 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 2: Kathleen Forlby's life is one scarred by death. It's the 1030 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 2: reason Australians know her name. It's why she was dubbed 1031 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 2: Australia's worst female serial killer. None of her four children 1032 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: live to see their second birthday. But yesterday, after an 1033 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 2: inquiry into the case, Kathleen was pardoned and released after 1034 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 2: two decades behind bars. An incredible journalist who knows this 1035 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,359 Speaker 2: case better than anyone and host of the podcast Mother's 1036 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 2: Guilt is Jane Hansen. She joins us now in Hi, Jane. 1037 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 12: Hi, how are you? 1038 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 9: Hi? 1039 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: Jane? 1040 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 2: What a day? I mean? I know that you have 1041 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 2: been looking at the new forensic evidence. You've been looking 1042 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 2: at Kathleen's story. How did you feel yesterday when you thought, Wow, 1043 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 2: she's actually been pardoned, She's free. 1044 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,359 Speaker 16: Bittersweet, so bittersweet, happy for her, But oh my god, 1045 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 16: what a waste of time and energy and robbed of 1046 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 16: her four children, but also twenty years of her life 1047 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 16: on a case that should never have gone ahead because 1048 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 16: the whole thing was predicated on a discredited theory from 1049 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 16: the beginning in two thousand and three. 1050 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 13: Meadows Law, as it was known, the Room the. 1051 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 16: One Suddenly her death was tragic to suspicious three murder 1052 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 16: and was proven otherwise, had already been discredited in two 1053 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 16: thousand and three when they went ahead with prosecuting Kathleen Tolwick. 1054 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,879 Speaker 16: I don't even know us muster them, but anyone that's 1055 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 16: looked at the case closely has seen massive holes in 1056 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 16: it from one and I just feel this overwhelming sense 1057 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 16: of sadness. 1058 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 3: When did you get involved in a Jane, Because I 1059 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 3: remember I started working here all those years ago when 1060 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 3: it was all happening, so surely you would have formulated 1061 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 3: your own opinions at the time. 1062 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 16: I was covering the war in Iraq, actually, but I 1063 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 16: was also around the same time having and losing my 1064 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 16: own children, so I'd lost two sons in two thousand 1065 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 16: and one and two thousand and four. And I recognized 1066 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 16: in her diary entries which were very much used and 1067 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 16: weaponized to find her guilty. 1068 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 10: And when I say weaponized, they. 1069 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 16: Were taken out of context and hrung together in such 1070 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 16: a compelling way to make her look guilty. But what 1071 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 16: psychologists and psychiatrists who made submissions to this latest inquiry 1072 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 16: found after analyzing her her diary entries was that these 1073 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 16: were the writings of a woman bewilled by the loss 1074 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 16: of her children. I mean, how can you just get 1075 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 16: up on your day and your child is dead? In 1076 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 16: their court, the four children appeared to have died of 1077 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 16: sudden infant death, but then to be accused of it 1078 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 16: and blamed for the deaths of your children. 1079 00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 12: I just don't know how she. 1080 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:00,320 Speaker 1: Got through that. 1081 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 2: As you say, there was some incompetence in the way 1082 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 2: the case was put together with Meadows law, but also 1083 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 2: the forensics science has changed since then, and this is 1084 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 2: what's changed things in recent days for her. 1085 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 16: Well, yeah, the human genome was done, so the question was, okay, 1086 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 16: is this mad woman just having putting a baby in 1087 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 16: her body through having babies, you know, four times in 1088 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 16: a row, just to smother them so she can. 1089 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: Go to the gym. 1090 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 16: So that was what the case was built on, which 1091 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 16: how that passed to begin with. But yeah, the pathology in. 1092 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 10: The early days was well with the fourth child who 1093 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,919 Speaker 10: had myocloud artists, this is Laura. 1094 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 16: Myocloud artists of course can kill. But the pathologist found 1095 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 16: that he couldn't rule out smothering, and he because three 1096 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 16: other children have died in the family, So we now 1097 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 16: know if four children are going to die in the family, 1098 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 16: one d the other, there's probably what's more logical a 1099 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 16: mad woman just killing a children in the front and center, 1100 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 16: putting her body through a pregnancy on one time after 1101 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 16: another just to smother her children. 1102 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 10: So she didn't go to the gym or is there a. 1103 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 16: Genetic fault at play? So these things were questioned in 1104 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 16: two thousand and three, and in fact, Craig Forby, Kathleen's husband, 1105 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 16: did contact a geneticist in Scotland about a possible genetic 1106 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 16: cause for the deaths of the children, but police didn't 1107 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 16: pursue that because the tests were too expensive, so they 1108 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 16: just went with Meadow's law. 1109 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 3: Right, So when Craig contacted that person in Scotland, was 1110 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 3: this before that he went to the police with the diaries, Yes, 1111 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 3: and then when he saw the diaries, and in the diaries, 1112 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 3: Kathleen says because her father, Mary murdered her mother, she said, 1113 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 3: I am my father's daughter, So that was instantly in 1114 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 3: his view an admission of guilt. 1115 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 16: Well, she explained herself in the twenty and eighteen inquiry 1116 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 16: before reg Blanch reg Blanche that what she meant was 1117 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 16: that she was. 1118 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 10: A loser like her father. 1119 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 16: He murdered her own mother, he sexually abused her. That's 1120 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 16: what she meant in her writings, I'm my father's daughter. 1121 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 16: I'm such a loser. And she explained that nobody wanted 1122 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 16: to listen. 1123 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 2: To it, and also there was no evidence that she'd 1124 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,760 Speaker 2: smother them because there would be forensic there'd be evidence 1125 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 2: on their bodies. It doesn't matter how small a baby is, 1126 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 2: it will fight to breathe. And there was none of that, 1127 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 2: not a scaic of evidence. 1128 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,240 Speaker 16: And even with Laura, the larger charge, she was eighteen 1129 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,240 Speaker 16: months old when she died. They did look for bruising, 1130 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 16: you know, they did further tests, micro tests basically to 1131 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 16: see if there was any bruising on her basic et cetera, 1132 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 16: and there wasn't. There was not a scac of evidence 1133 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 16: that any of the children had been smothered. It was 1134 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 16: purely abstantial case based on. 1135 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:46,919 Speaker 12: Matters law. 1136 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 2: What do you think the future for Kathleen will be 1137 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 2: twenty years, six of those in solitary confinement while mourning 1138 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 2: her children. It's un unimaginable. How will her future be? 1139 00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 7: Well? 1140 00:52:58,719 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 10: I have to take my hat off to her. 1141 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 16: She's clearly stoic, and I mean that worked against her 1142 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 16: during the trial because she did know how to shut down, 1143 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 16: and that probably came from her dramatic upbringing at such 1144 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,240 Speaker 16: a young age, and she had talked about her ability 1145 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,280 Speaker 16: to completely emotionally disengage and disassociate. 1146 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 10: I think that's probably what's kept her alive. 1147 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 16: She's definitely suffered depression and she has written to her 1148 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 16: friend that she has considered suicide. But I think I 1149 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 16: think she's tough, you know, how can you go through that? Yeah, 1150 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 16: but she's got an extraordinary friend in Chasey Tracy Chapman, 1151 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 16: who's built, who's led the charge to her friends, she 1152 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 16: went to school with her, has never ever believed the 1153 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 16: case against her friend. She's actually built a too vegiom 1154 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,720 Speaker 16: apartment on her farm for Kathleen. 1155 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,320 Speaker 10: So we all need a friend like Tracy. 1156 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: Tracy. 1157 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 3: Well, Jane, thank you for joining us the podcast Mother's Guild. 1158 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 3: Weevery you get your podcast. Jane Hansen, thank. 1159 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 2: You, Thank you, Jane, thank you so much. 1160 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,240 Speaker 13: Jonesy and Amanda jam podcast. 1161 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 3: You wear the same claus as yesterday, Same as yesterday, 1162 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 3: same as the day before you. 1163 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 2: In Australia, our much loved David Kosh is stepping down from. 1164 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,319 Speaker 1: His years role is going to be the new man. 1165 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 2: In England, there's a morning breakfast duo called Holly and 1166 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 2: Film Phil Schofield and they host a morning program on 1167 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 2: British television. We spoke about this on the show yesterday. 1168 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 2: So the fates of Philip Schofield have have really waxed 1169 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 2: and waned. I think they've waned more than waxed in 1170 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 2: recent weeks. Just to tell you the story so far, 1171 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 2: Philip decided to step down from the show when it 1172 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 2: was revealed. First of all, let's just say he was 1173 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,439 Speaker 2: married for a number of years, thirty years. He comes 1174 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 2: out as gay on the show and his co host 1175 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 2: Holly says, isn't that wonderful? You're so brave? His wife 1176 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 2: watching this going hang on, isn't he brave? And that's fine. 1177 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 2: They lost no viewership through that because people supported him 1178 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 2: and his decision to live his authentic self. There are 1179 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 2: now rumors that maybe he was forced to do that 1180 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 2: because they were going to out the fact that he 1181 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 2: was having an affair with a male staff member. 1182 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: He has said that a younger a lot younger man. 1183 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 2: That's right, and the male staff member he met when 1184 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 2: the younger man was fifteen. Phil got him a job 1185 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,600 Speaker 2: on the show. He claims, however, he didn't have a 1186 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 2: sexual relationship with him until the man was twenty. He 1187 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 2: said there was no grooming, there was nothing illegal. It 1188 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 2: might have been inappropriate, yes, I accept that, but it 1189 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,879 Speaker 2: was not illegal. In the meantime, the fact that he's 1190 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 2: had this relationship with this staff member, this young man, 1191 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 2: seems to have thrown everyone into a huge tears at 1192 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,320 Speaker 2: the same time, and I think this is what's muddying 1193 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 2: the waters. Philip's brother was in court and has been 1194 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 2: charged as a sex of a child sex offender and 1195 00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 2: is in prison. Philip has said Philip appeared. I went 1196 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 2: to the court every day while his brother was there. 1197 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 5: But he says, I. 1198 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 2: Feel like I don't have a brother this ruling. When 1199 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 2: I found out what he did, he's no longer a 1200 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 2: brother to me. 1201 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 1: And he didn't tell his co host about this. 1202 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 2: Well that's another rumor. I don't know. But their friendship 1203 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 2: started to they were slightly estranged and was getting very uncomfortable. 1204 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,879 Speaker 2: Then with this story came out that he was having 1205 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,760 Speaker 2: an affair with this younger man, all hell broke loose. 1206 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 2: He resigned from the job on Breakfast TV. He also 1207 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 2: was asked to leave by the entire network. He was 1208 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 2: also going to host other shows. They've said no, he 1209 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,720 Speaker 2: was sacked by his management team because he told lies. 1210 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 2: They must have asked him to his face, did you 1211 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 2: have an affair with this man? And he said no. 1212 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 2: Today is the first, and he did an interview on 1213 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 2: the weekend saying he's actually pretty much suicidal. He's lost 1214 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 2: everything and if his daughters weren't supporting him, he would 1215 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 2: have killed himself. So that's made everyone think, or a 1216 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 2: couple of people have come out and said, well, unless 1217 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 2: the young man himself said he was groomed and the 1218 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 2: sex occurred illegally when he was under age, So he 1219 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 2: hasn't said any no, he said nothing. What more is 1220 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 2: there to this story? This morning or overnight? Holly, his 1221 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 2: co host, has made an impassioned plead to the audience, 1222 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,319 Speaker 2: and it went a little bit like this. 1223 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 18: Hi, Beck, good morning, Jose, thank you for being here. 1224 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 10: Thank you holes, pride, deep breath. 1225 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 18: Firstly, are year okay? I hope So Phil's very strange. Indeed, 1226 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 18: sitting here without Phil, and I imagine that you might 1227 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 18: have been feeling a lot like I have, shaken, troubled, 1228 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 18: let down, worried for the well being of people on 1229 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 18: all sides of what's been going on, and full of questions. You, 1230 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 18: me and all of us at this morning gave our 1231 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 18: love and support to someone who was not telling the truth, 1232 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 18: who acted in a way that they themselves felt though 1233 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 18: they had to resign from ITV and step down from 1234 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 18: a career that they loved. That is a lot to process, 1235 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 18: and it's equally hard to see the toll that it's 1236 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 18: taken on their mental health. I think what unites us 1237 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,919 Speaker 18: all now is a desire to heal for the health 1238 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 18: and wellbeing of everyone. I hope that as we start 1239 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 18: this new chapter and get back to a place of 1240 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 18: warmth and magic that this show holds for all of us, 1241 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 18: we can find strength in each other and from our heart. 1242 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 18: Can I just say thank you for all of your 1243 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 18: kind messages and thank you for being here this morning. Myself, 1244 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,959 Speaker 18: Josie Derma, Alison Craig, and every single person that works 1245 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 18: on this show will continue to work hard every single 1246 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 18: day to bring you this show that we love. So 1247 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 18: on that note, Josie, thank you. 1248 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 2: What's going on? If he had an affear, which he's 1249 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 2: admitted to, a consensual, legal, but inappropriate affear, why is 1250 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 2: she saying he lied to us all? She asked him 1251 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 2: if he was maybe, She asked him, might you have 1252 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 2: an affear with this coworker? He said no. Is that 1253 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 2: a reason for them all to act like he is 1254 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 2: his brother. Is there more to this story, because unless 1255 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 2: that young man himself says I was groomed, this is 1256 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 2: such an overreaction. What do you think. 1257 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 1: Maybe he's a bit of a dick at work. I 1258 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 1: just wanted to get rid of him. 1259 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 2: Well then that's a different thing too, But to make 1260 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 2: it so, he lied to us. Therefore, are you saying 1261 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 2: to the audience, are you okay? Like they've been like 1262 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 2: this has happened in their own lives. 1263 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to be okay. I think I'm 1264 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 1: going to be okay. 1265 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 2: The audience is actually okay, okay, okay. 1266 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 1: Jim y Rye, are you okay? 1267 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 2: That's completely something else an intriguing case. If Moore comes 1268 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 2: to hand, we'll let you know. 1269 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 1: In a groundbreaking move, it's been reported that Sweden. 1270 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 3: Has officially recognized sex as a sport, paving the way 1271 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 3: for the country's first ever sex competition as a sport. 1272 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 2: So do you have to train during week then on 1273 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 2: weekends someone gives oranges at half time, someone's mum's doing 1274 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 2: the ironing. 1275 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 3: The upcoming event, known as the European Sex Champe come 1276 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 3: on all showcase participants engaging in extended sex sessions that 1277 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 3: can last up to six hours per day. The event 1278 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 3: will start on the eighth of June. It lasts for 1279 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 3: six weeks. Participants will be engaging. 1280 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Do they have people watching them? 1281 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: Well, let me get to that. 1282 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 3: In sexual activities under sixteen disciplines, you've got your disciplines 1283 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 3: in there. 1284 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 1: Don't really need the specifics. 1285 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 10: Is that what? Yeah? 1286 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 2: But seduction, you're already there. If you've entered the championships, 1287 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 2: you know you don't have to be wooed over dinner. 1288 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 1: That could be a thing. That could be a thing. 1289 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 3: It said that twenty people from different countries will participate 1290 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 3: in the competition, with three judges. 1291 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: Todd mckennie, I'll give a one. I'll give one. 1292 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,479 Speaker 3: Because he usually in sport. Yeah, you're celebrated for being quick. 1293 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 3: It's something I could shine in. 1294 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 2: That's right. Well, cricket goes for five days. 1295 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: This this is something I could shine in, so look 1296 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 1: out for that. 1297 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 3: I understand Cella nine's wide world of sports is interested 1298 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 3: in commentating. 1299 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 19: She's just picked the ball up there and kept it 1300 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:26,720 Speaker 19: in his grassing the ball. 1301 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 1: Playing on this stage, there. 1302 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 7: Was no doubt that she was too early. 1303 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 17: I thought she had controller of tall and it was 1304 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 17: forced out backwards selling you rule. 1305 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,959 Speaker 1: It doesn't look right to the asses. 1306 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 3: When you go, I'm looking forward to seeing it'd definitely 1307 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 3: be running on ESPN. 1308 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 2: G given me twenty thousand dollars cash thanks to hair 1309 01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 2: Informers Machinery House by being our Goolie of the Year. 1310 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 2: Download the iHeartRadio app, press on the microphone at the 1311 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 2: WS side and record your goolie. 1312 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 1: What have we got? 1313 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 14: What really gets my goolies is when you spark a 1314 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 14: beautiful little white cardigan that's very expensive, but now it's 1315 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,160 Speaker 14: on special. You go to put on the only one 1316 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 14: in your size and it has what looks like chocolate 1317 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 14: but could be something else finger marks all over the 1318 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 14: bottom of one of the sleeves. That really gets my goolione's. 1319 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: Taking it back. 1320 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 2: Or trot maybe took it back or tried it on 1321 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 2: the shop with mank on their hands. 1322 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 8: H What else What gets my goolies is inconsiderate parents. 1323 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 8: I'm a teacher. I organize an excursion in the evening 1324 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 8: for students to go to the city. Parents have granted permission. 1325 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 8: There's been lots of reminders. They know where to be 1326 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,959 Speaker 8: and when to be there, so after a day's teaching, supervising, homework, dinner, 1327 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 8: travel the show. We get to the station at the 1328 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 8: right time, meet the parents, students go home. 1329 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 19: Except some parents, I'm never there. 1330 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,880 Speaker 7: They're always late and waiting hours every time. 1331 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Again you have to think about that. 1332 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, some poor teachers waiting there with the kids. Yeah, 1333 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 2: I mean, stuff can get hard for parents and they 1334 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,439 Speaker 2: don't get there in time. Stuff can happen, but often 1335 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 2: they rely on the teacher to take care of it, don't. 1336 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 1: They out with the bad, him with the good. 1337 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 3: If you dipped out, doesn't and he can always record 1338 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 3: your GHOULI via the iHeartRadio app. 1339 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 2: It's five to nine, a favorite calory medal of Facebook 1340 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 2: friend wins Kiss Tickets. Kiss are returning to Sydney thanks 1341 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 2: to fand demand. I Am a Gog one final epic 1342 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 2: Australian show at a Core Stadium October seven. Tickets run 1343 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 2: sale now at ticket Tech. 1344 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:39,439 Speaker 3: You g got the jones in amunt of tea towel 1345 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 3: and eighteenth birthday key ring as well. 1346 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,640 Speaker 2: The guy who plays Biff Tannin on Back to the Future. 1347 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 2: He says he gets asked the same questions every time 1348 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 2: he's even written a song about. 1349 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 7: It as a plane or I'm on the screen. 1350 01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 17: There there's a lot of friendly people that I like 1351 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 17: him means they shake my head but never ask my name. 1352 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 7: And they start asking questions that are always the same. Hey, 1353 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 7: what's Michael J. Fox like? He's nice? What's Christopher Lloyd like? 1354 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 7: Kind of quiet? What's christphin Clover like? Unusual? Well, stop 1355 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 7: asking me the question. 1356 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 2: Tribal dramas beating for brush with fame, my dumb question. 1357 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 7: I don't know. Stop asking me the question. 1358 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 2: I've got some fabulous calls. Here's Brad from Canterbury. 1359 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 19: I was driving along on Lady macquary's chair head in 1360 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 19: the city and we spotted Russell Crowe pushing a. 1361 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 12: Prayer and this is about fifteen years ago. 1362 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 19: And my mate kicked the horn and Russell jouper skating 1363 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 19: and I jumped there because I support to get his 1364 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 19: autograph and he told me. 1365 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 10: To piss official. 1366 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 19: Were skating him. 1367 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,040 Speaker 3: You know you got skilled the gladiator at my signal, 1368 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 3: he'd like you have his spear with unleash the girly shriek. 1369 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 16: Right at you. 1370 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,520 Speaker 13: J That's enough, who weaves up next? 1371 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 2: We are back tonight for gam Nation. Yes see You 1372 01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,200 Speaker 2: from six Good Days You Well, thank God that's over. 1373 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 2: Hood Bye, good Bye, Wipe the two Baby from You're Right. 1374 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 14: Catch Jonesy and Amanda's podcast on the iHeartRadio app for 1375 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 14: wherever you get your podcasts. 1376 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 13: Jonesy and Amanda podcast. Catch up on what you've missed 1377 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 13: on the free iHeartRadio app