Speaker 1: This is Curtain, a podcast where we expose the disappearances
Speaker 1: of Aboriginal people across this country, shining a light on
Speaker 1: the darkest parts of our justice system. We ask who
Speaker 1: are the victims? I am aiming.
Speaker 2: Acquire and I'm Martin Hodgson, Senior Advocate at the Foreign
Speaker 2: Prisoner Support Service.
Speaker 3: And a warning.
Speaker 2: This series contains the names of deceased people and includes
Speaker 2: distressing content that may upset some listeners.
Speaker 1: Welcome to episode three of season two. I've gotten the podcast.
Speaker 1: Today we bring you another story from Durmbo Country, a
Speaker 1: story that ties in with the original investigation of this podcast,
Speaker 1: which revolved around the death of an Aboriginal woman named
Speaker 1: Linda on the banks of Tunnaba or the Fitzroy River
Speaker 1: in my hometown of Rockhampden. Back when Martin and I
Speaker 1: were investigating Linda's story uncovering the truth about the wrongful
Speaker 1: conviction of Kevin Henry, we heard of another death on Tuniba.
Speaker 1: We heard about it from my father's Stirling macchuire. He
Speaker 1: told us of another Aboriginal woman who had lost her
Speaker 1: life by the banks of Tuniba in circumstances eerily similar
Speaker 1: to that of Linda. The difference was that the perpetrator
Speaker 1: in this case was a white man. We found out
Speaker 1: that the woman who had lost her life was named
Speaker 1: Queeny Hart. She was a walker walker woman from Sherburg,
Speaker 1: a former Aboriginal mission in Queensland, only about two hours
Speaker 1: from Brisbane. Queeny had been traveling and staying in Rockhampden
Speaker 1: with family back in nineteen seventy five when she met
Speaker 1: a white man named Stephen Keem who took her to
Speaker 1: Tunaba one night and who left her there by that
Speaker 1: river into humanizing circumstances where she died. Her wounds told
Speaker 1: a story of brutal violence, and before the white man
Speaker 1: was even named and charged, the newspapers spoke of the
Speaker 1: likely culprit being a sadistic killer. However, by the next year,
Speaker 1: when the trial Alpher murder came around, that white man
Speaker 1: Stephen Keem, was not named as a sadistic killer. Instead,
Speaker 1: he was defined by his employment as a railway fettler. Queenie,
Speaker 1: in turn was dehumanized and said to be a prostitute,
Speaker 1: although that is something her family have always denied. Stephen
Speaker 1: Keam's charges of murder over the death of Queeny were
Speaker 1: dropped within two hours of the trial beginning by the
Speaker 1: judge who sided with his defense, which put Queeny on trial,
Speaker 1: suggesting that her death was her responsibility. The irony was not.
Speaker 3: Lost on us.
Speaker 1: We were investigating a case where a black man had
Speaker 1: been wrongfully convicted over the death of an Aboriginal woman,
Speaker 1: while in another case years before, a white man who
Speaker 1: all the evidence suggested was guilty, had walked free. When
Speaker 1: I heard about Queeny's case, I spoke to Martin and
Speaker 1: we got in contact with Debbie West, Queeny's niece, who
Speaker 1: told us about her Auntie and how it had devastated
Speaker 1: her family, mostly Queen's mother, Janie Hart. At the time
Speaker 1: of Queen deef Annie Janey had wanted to bring Queeny
Speaker 1: home for burial on country, but were cruelly denied that
Speaker 1: right by the superintendent in Sherburg. You see, Sherberg was
Speaker 1: still under the Aboriginal Protection Act at the time Queenie
Speaker 1: was killed. It was a brutal policy in which the
Speaker 1: residents of Sherburg who had been forcibly removed to that
Speaker 1: area were likened to inmates, with their lives completely controlled
Speaker 1: by the protectors and the police. In order to fight
Speaker 1: for justice for Queenie. Martin and I decided to help
Speaker 1: Debbie's family bring Queenie home to Sherburg for a proper burial. Today,
Speaker 1: we decided to revisit Queeney's story for the podcast by
Speaker 1: bringing you the voice of Debbie West. We spoke to
Speaker 1: her on the phone from her home in Brisbane.
Speaker 2: I'll start by asking Debbie, what was your earliest memories
Speaker 2: of hearing about Auntie Queeny.
Speaker 3: My earliest memory would have been when I was probably.
Speaker 2: And did you know that at that age what had
Speaker 2: had happened to Auntie?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Oh, I just knew that she passed away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when did you first find out what had happened?
Speaker 3: Well, grandmother, my grandmother never talked about it.
Speaker 2: Right, So was it only until after she passed away
Speaker 2: that you found out what happened?
Speaker 3: Very later after she passed away, because we only just
Speaker 3: knew that she passed away, and you know, in them days,
Speaker 3: we didn't question in how she passed away or anything
Speaker 3: got that there? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And do you remember what your reaction was
Speaker 2: when you found out what had actually happened to Annie Queeney.
Speaker 3: My reaction is I didn't believe it at first, Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I was trying to comprehend the news when I
Speaker 3: actually heard about it. When I spoke to HAMI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, once you'd heard what had happened to Arnie Queeney,
Speaker 2: what was your reaction like? Did you want to know
Speaker 2: what happened? Did you just want to get her home
Speaker 2: to country? What was sort of your first motivation.
Speaker 3: At first? I was getting shocked and actually speak to
Speaker 3: my uncle and speak about just a feeling the blank
Speaker 3: that I had, okay in what in the whole story
Speaker 3: and trying to comprehend you know, what really happened, And
Speaker 3: I said more archies or uncle never talked about it.
Speaker 3: Neither did my grandmother. We just knew that she just
Speaker 3: passed away.
Speaker 1: And Debbie, I remember, I think I first contacted you
Speaker 1: shortly after I had actually heard about any Queenie, and
Speaker 1: I'd heard about it from my dad in rock Hampton.
Speaker 1: So I remember, you know, a lot of mob in
Speaker 1: rock Hampden had known what had happened, had known there
Speaker 1: had been an enduring injustice. And I remember when I
Speaker 1: contacted you because I was really concerned. I thought, I
Speaker 1: really feel like I need to look into this. But
Speaker 1: then I thought, well, there's like there's I don't know
Speaker 1: if that would affect your family, but I remember when
Speaker 1: I called you straight away, one of the first things
Speaker 1: you told me was that your auntie was actually still
Speaker 1: buried in Rockhampton, and I remember that was like the
Speaker 1: first thing you told me, even before anything else I
Speaker 1: found out or you told me about your family. I
Speaker 1: remember that was one of the first things you said,
Speaker 1: and I remember being so struck by that because it
Speaker 1: was sort of like I realized that something needed to.
Speaker 2: Happen, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that you talk of it a little
Speaker 1: bit about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was still shocked. And after speaking to
Speaker 3: my uncle uncle Louis in their pastorn, you know, he said,
Speaker 3: you know that'll you know, that'll make him happy, and
Speaker 3: it'll make man happy too, because he said to me,
Speaker 3: you know, that was when a man's wishes. So I
Speaker 3: was happy with that and going forward with everything, getting
Speaker 3: commission from my older siblings to do that, and Auntie
Speaker 3: are welcome to Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And Debbie, I think during that time you actually found
Speaker 1: out a lot about what she was actually like, even
Speaker 1: though you never got to meet your auntie because like
Speaker 1: that had been stolen from you. Really, even the ability
Speaker 1: for your grandmother to speak about her daughter that had
Speaker 1: been taken away from you. But I think through this
Speaker 1: process and hearing Uncle Lewis and Anni Alita and Annie
Speaker 1: sl speak of her, you found out a bit more
Speaker 1: about how what she was like, didn't you. Can you
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about the process and what
Speaker 1: she was like in.
Speaker 3: Life after speaking to my uncle his wife Melita and me,
Speaker 3: and she was good friends with Annie Queeney and and
Speaker 3: you tell me, you know how where personality was, and
Speaker 3: I could I kind of cannot relate it because I
Speaker 3: know Mom and my Auntie and that they well, you know,
Speaker 3: I need to dress up really nice. And I can
Speaker 3: see where felling too, because you know, traveling, My mom traveled.
Speaker 3: My other artis travel. So yeah, you can relate to it,
Speaker 3: and I relate to they're doing them stuff and just
Speaker 3: enjoying life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could definitely imagine just any the loss that
Speaker 1: it had been to your community and not being able
Speaker 1: to take her home and not being your grandmother, not
Speaker 1: being able to say goodbye properly on her home country.
Speaker 1: I think that was like a unique sort of trauma
Speaker 1: that didn't affect other people that happened after death, you know,
Speaker 1: what I mean, It's just I don't think a lot
Speaker 1: of other people experience that.
Speaker 3: Can my knowledge, I think this was the first bringing
Speaker 3: her home to the two community. Well can my knowledge
Speaker 3: first time of bringing someone i'm back to their own country.
Speaker 2: And that was something once we found out from Debbie
Speaker 2: and the family that they really wanted to do, that
Speaker 2: we all work together that to make it happen because
Speaker 2: everyone understood how important that was. Can you tell us,
Speaker 2: Debbie about that day when Auntie came home and what
Speaker 2: that meant to you and your family.
Speaker 3: I remember Amy Wing and me her tool Amy because
Speaker 3: she had I was in one of the enforces and
Speaker 3: you know, doing a fair well smoking ceremony and farewell
Speaker 3: for her to come back to fry Back Arms, and
Speaker 3: and I felt I said to Amy, I said, and
Speaker 3: I felt really happy, you know, really content with myself
Speaker 3: because I feel like that I was frying with the
Speaker 3: with you know, with that coffin coming down, I was
Speaker 3: trying with it. You know, it's just for the happy feeling,
Speaker 3: overwhelming feelings and just feeling expirits, really happy in life
Speaker 3: that she was traveling out. And I can feel that
Speaker 3: me being in Bridge traveling like it was a happy feeling.
Speaker 1: I definitely believe that it was supposed to happen, Debbie.
Speaker 1: I definitely believe that spirit was speaking, you know, in
Speaker 1: just the way everything happened, and even just being there
Speaker 1: in Sherburg back on walka walka country, and I remember
Speaker 1: seeing like the pink because Annie Queenie loved pink, and
Speaker 1: you did such an amazing job. Like I can say,
Speaker 1: I was just blown away by how beautiful that ceremony was.
Speaker 1: And to see a lot of Honey Queenie's like childhood
Speaker 1: friends who knew her, and the men sending her saying goodbye,
Speaker 1: and your uncle singing that song, I just thought it.
Speaker 1: And the crows and like being there within your family
Speaker 1: cemetery as well, where all of your family were. I
Speaker 1: think it's really hard to put into words how special
Speaker 1: it was. It is, but it really was. It felt
Speaker 1: like yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, and and it was and you know, all
Speaker 3: the family, especially the antides, were really happy, you know,
Speaker 3: they were thanking me, and I said, now, you know,
Speaker 3: it's really it's been a long thing because I went
Speaker 3: on what my uncle said. You know, your nan wanted
Speaker 3: a arm and that was one of her last wishes
Speaker 3: for a child. To be armed when she couldn't bring
Speaker 3: you arm in the best place because of the restriction
Speaker 3: with the superintendent and all that. In them days. You know,
Speaker 3: the family didn't get justice for it, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember you saying that at the ceremony as well.
Speaker 1: How you know you didn't get justice for her because
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously that the white man walked free. The
Speaker 1: justice system was so incredibly racist the way that just
Speaker 1: even described your auntie, And I just wonder do you
Speaker 1: ever feel like maybe it was a little bit of
Speaker 1: justice or what do you think sort of the next steps?
Speaker 2: You know, what would you do?
Speaker 1: You think more has to be done unally.
Speaker 3: When it comes to our age abiginal people and especially
Speaker 3: you know how people that don't miss him and getting
Speaker 3: murder and missing something more needs to happened. Everybody, you know,
Speaker 3: everyone involved, you know, step up and go that extra more,
Speaker 3: even if you don't know, because people are in positions
Speaker 3: of jobs and everything like that, this is your job
Speaker 3: follow the right protocol and do the right thing for everybody.
Speaker 3: We're tired of you know, being left out and all
Speaker 3: like within the justice system and getting the hard punishment
Speaker 3: that you know, if if the table was ten onto
Speaker 3: a non indiginous person, you know, and just the big failure.
Speaker 3: Then there was a lot of failures in the court
Speaker 3: process with my Auntie, you know, and you know, I
Speaker 3: still think about it, but it can't be undone. Now
Speaker 3: it's already done, and that at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: I fulfilled my grandmother's wishes to have the arm and
Speaker 3: it's done, and it's just for us to heal and
Speaker 3: be peaceful and heal heal quietly for our lost ones.
Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the amazing things that
Speaker 2: come out of all of this, is that Amy and
Speaker 2: I learned about Auntie so long ago from Amy's dad Sterling,
Speaker 2: and her spirit we feel was always with It's helping
Speaker 2: us to get justice for both Arnie and for Linda too,
Speaker 2: and then to work with you, Debbie, to be able
Speaker 2: to fulfill the family wish to get Arnie Queeney back home.
Speaker 2: I think it it is a first as far as
Speaker 2: I know as well, and I think it sends a
Speaker 2: great message and that you've done something so amazing that
Speaker 2: shows everyone else right around the country that this is
Speaker 2: what we need to do. We need to bring people
Speaker 2: home to their country, and also we need to work
Speaker 2: as hard as we can to make sure what happens
Speaker 2: to Auntie happened to Auntie Queenie and to others never
Speaker 2: ever happens again. And you've yeah, and you and your
Speaker 2: family have just taught us so much. And we wouldn't
Speaker 2: be here doing this podcast and focusing so heavily on
Speaker 2: this issue if it wasn't for you and Arnie Queeney
Speaker 2: and everything we've learned from your family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I have. I had good support. And I
Speaker 3: thank you guys to you know, you know, walking with
Speaker 3: me and just saying, you know, just keep keep going
Speaker 3: and keep pushing all that, you know, thank you.
Speaker 2: It's been our pleasure. And I think I hope one
Speaker 2: day people can understand just how much you and your
Speaker 2: family have had to overcome and how many hurdles were
Speaker 2: put in your way. And again, I hope that by
Speaker 2: you overcoming them and bringing Arnie home, that it teaches
Speaker 2: everyone about both the history and also what we have
Speaker 2: to do going into the future. And all of that
Speaker 2: happened because of you and your family.
Speaker 4: That's right, and I think it will be a you know,
Speaker 4: it could be you know, learning, but if we do
Speaker 4: the right thing, and yeah, we do the right process
Speaker 4: with love them. And sometimes it's really hard because we
Speaker 4: don't have the support.
Speaker 3: We you know that we really.
Speaker 4: About and you know, on things for them to go
Speaker 4: the whole length of Boston and achieving what we're supposed
Speaker 4: to achieve. You know, we have a lot of we
Speaker 4: have a lack of that. Some families have a lot
Speaker 4: no no support and all that we do. I end
Speaker 4: up dealing it with my family and speaking to the
Speaker 4: elism and speaking to my uncle and my auntie. You
Speaker 4: know you do this, If you do this, you know,
Speaker 4: everybody to be a peace a nominee and and and
Speaker 4: that's what I really wanted, knowing that we don't never get.
Speaker 3: Justice for honey.
Speaker 4: You know the system all us tell my grandmother, my
Speaker 4: mama fail us. You know fell my fell, my mom, oh,
Speaker 4: my grandparents and siblings. So you know, something needs to change,
Speaker 4: something needs to change. And you know, we got a
Speaker 4: weapon healing. We will never heal if people will walk
Speaker 4: with us, because we don't get that very often, especially
Speaker 4: in the society. But no judgment or it's going to
Speaker 4: be judgment. Make sure it's to write judgment on a
Speaker 4: person prepotato who is done to you know in practice,
Speaker 4: the fees of their injuries and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's such an important thing too,
Speaker 2: is that people realize that the focus and the judgment
Speaker 2: and the blame should solely be on the man who
Speaker 2: did this. And for so long there was those newspaper
Speaker 2: articles and everything that said horrible things about Auntie, when
Speaker 2: really the only person to blame in all of this,
Speaker 2: and the only person who should have had things written
Speaker 2: about them in a horrible way, was the man who
Speaker 2: did this. And I hope, yeah, and I hope in
Speaker 2: doing this and I'll explain later in this podcast who
Speaker 2: he is and what he had done to others as well,
Speaker 2: that forever more everyone knows what an amazing woman Ernie
Speaker 2: Queeny Hart was and what a terrible man he was.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, you know, he just used the system. I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, he used that as his representative because he
Speaker 4: was married to a woman. You know, he just played
Speaker 4: the system and he knew he knew, you know, with
Speaker 4: meditated on pre meditated or doing this to it. We
Speaker 4: will never know because then the witness has never got
Speaker 4: talking to or was now in the courtroom. And my grandmother, Army,
Speaker 4: that's a big, big and really angry of you know,
Speaker 4: I'm not having, like I said, the lack of fam
Speaker 4: justice and and support within the legal system also.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what we have to really improve, is
Speaker 2: that support for the families of the victims and making
Speaker 2: sure that these men are brought to justice because just
Speaker 2: for too long they've got away with it and no
Speaker 2: one's done anything about it. And that's what we really
Speaker 2: hope and want to change.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's hard, but we have to move forward. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, my family are happy in what's what I did,
Speaker 4: and and I'm grateful for that because it's just a
Speaker 4: little bit more peace too, and a peach for us
Speaker 4: to try and feel, but we never will hear because
Speaker 4: there's too much trauma involved in the society.
Speaker 1: I was just going to say that, Debbie. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think for our listeners to know that, you know,
Speaker 1: you're from Sherburg, Honey queenis from Cherburg. It's not just
Speaker 1: these isolated events either, Like the violence is all connected
Speaker 1: the way it's been perpetrated on the entire Sherbeg community,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that was part of
Speaker 1: what prevented Honey Queenie from coming home. And I think
Speaker 1: that's what listeners have to understand is that it's a
Speaker 1: very different form of violence that Aboriginal women experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's I mean, if you don't know that, you
Speaker 1: find I think non Indigenous people find it very hard
Speaker 1: to understand what is happening, you know, and how this
Speaker 1: can your Aboriginal women can be continually targeted. And so
Speaker 1: I think it's important for our listeners to know about
Speaker 1: Scherberg and that Cherburg is a very powerful community as well.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's resisted a lot of violence. That's
Speaker 1: what I thought, so specially when the community come together
Speaker 1: to remember Annie Queeney, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: knowing Sherberg is a place not of violence, but a
Speaker 1: place of power and resistance I feel, yeah, and family
Speaker 1: and love and care, you know, not what these white
Speaker 1: people say it is. And I just want listeners to
Speaker 1: know that as well. Yeah, the community you come from
Speaker 1: is very powerful.
Speaker 3: Family.
Speaker 4: Family, you know, we're permitted to and it is still strong.
Speaker 4: You know, my mother, my mother, our my home. It's
Speaker 4: always been army farm, you know, it's being our home
Speaker 4: and you know we have different but we always need
Speaker 4: that to save it. Still family still there, you know,
Speaker 4: you are breeding. Good to see you. Even though we
Speaker 4: will go and through we you know, we stand give up.
Speaker 4: We all respect one another.
Speaker 2: And I think that's a really nice way to remember
Speaker 2: everything you've done and your family has done and bringing
Speaker 2: Arnie home is that, like you say, everyone has that
Speaker 2: strong connection and everyone comes home. And it's a really
Speaker 2: powerful thing you've done to bring Arnie home and to
Speaker 2: bring healing to so many people and to have taught
Speaker 2: so many people about what needs to be done.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, no matter what happens, we all
Speaker 4: get together and just move. You know, well, never get justice.
Speaker 4: Not the first family don't get justice when someone's going
Speaker 4: to be rave enough.
Speaker 3: To stand up.
Speaker 4: We need justice for these family because we're all human
Speaker 4: beings in this country, we're not aliens or anything, you know.
Speaker 4: To support our family in when this is happening in
Speaker 4: across the nation, you know, someone stands up for us,
Speaker 4: and you know justice that.
Speaker 3: We really need ahead of time and time me here
Speaker 3: and see things. You know, we never get justice, and.
Speaker 4: That's the sad part of it because society needs to
Speaker 4: wake up and look and listen and.
Speaker 3: Have a heart.
Speaker 4: You know, we all human being, We all want one.
Speaker 2: Way yeah, and I think that's a really important thing
Speaker 2: for our non Indigenous listeners to remember is exactly what
Speaker 2: Tebbie said then, is to really take those words on board. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's a pleasure. Thank you for Auntie Queeney's family and
Speaker 2: for Amy and I. Bringing Auntie home to Sherburg and
Speaker 2: setting the record straight was always important and something we
Speaker 2: felt had to be seen through to the end. Auntie
Speaker 2: is now home in the loving embrace of her family
Speaker 2: and community in Sherbourg. But the truth has never been
Speaker 2: set out plainly. There's always been excuses, victim blaming and
Speaker 2: a rewriting of the narrative. But this is the truth
Speaker 2: and this is how history must be recorded. Stephen Henry
Speaker 2: Keem aka Christopher Edward Turner murdered Arnie Queeny Hart in
Speaker 2: April nineteen seventy five. Arnie Queeny played no role whatsoever
Speaker 2: in her own death. The Queensland Police were at best
Speaker 2: lazy and more likely criminally negligent in their racist failings,
Speaker 2: assisting a white man to get away with the murder
Speaker 2: of a black woman. Worse, the Rockhampton Supreme Court failed
Speaker 2: in their duty to deliver justice for Auntie Queeny and
Speaker 2: to protect the community from Keem. A violent and sadistic killer.
Speaker 2: He would confess to his ex wife life and his
Speaker 2: stepdaughter that he had indeed killed Arnie Queeny, and he
Speaker 2: threatened both women with death if they ever revealed this secret.
Speaker 2: They too were failed by the police and the justice system.
Speaker 2: Stephen Henry Kem in nineteen seventy eight went on to
Speaker 2: murder Margaret Kostenfelt in Serena. Her death was ruled a
Speaker 2: suicide and she, too and her loved ones were filed
Speaker 2: by the Queensland Police Service and the Queensland Justice system.
Speaker 2: She did not commit suicide like Arnie Queeney. She was
Speaker 2: murdered in near identical fashion by Stephen Henry Kean, who
Speaker 2: lived next door. Keen was also a former cellmate, friend,
Speaker 2: and then housemate of Rockhampton serial killer Leonard Fraser, one
Speaker 2: of the state's worst rapists, a man who killed, tortured
Speaker 2: and abused women and girls. He would die in prison.
Speaker 2: Keen died a free man, having never been held responsible
Speaker 2: for his crimes. It was The Morning Bulletin who carried
Speaker 2: Keem's obituary, the same newspaper who had used wickedly racist
Speaker 2: language against Arnie Queeney Hart, acting as an almost cheer
Speaker 2: squad to allow Keen to go free. He was the
Speaker 2: hard working, regular bloke. She was a black woman and
Speaker 2: thus a deserving victim. His obituary carried his alias and
Speaker 2: it reads Turner. Christopher Edward, known as Krusty of Balaklava Street, Frenchville,
Speaker 2: formerly of Yupoon, passed to a peacefully on Wednesday, the
Speaker 2: eleventh of September twenty nineteen, aged sixty years. A loved
Speaker 2: and loving partner, loving brother, uncle and friend to many,
Speaker 2: Christopher was privately cremated on Monday, the sixteenth of September
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, as per his wishes. Even in death, he
Speaker 2: was afforded all of the love and respect of a
Speaker 2: good man, and it was recorded for all to know
Speaker 2: and to be the final word on the history of
Speaker 2: his life. The history, however, is this. He was a racist,
Speaker 2: a double murderer, and a rapist. He was a violent
Speaker 2: alcoholic who preyed on women and girls. He may have
Speaker 2: passed away peacefully as per his wishes, but he brutally
Speaker 2: and sadistically ended the lives of two young women, affording
Speaker 2: them none of the peace he asked for and received.
Speaker 2: For himself. He was not a good man nor a
Speaker 2: loving one. Arnie Queenie Hart, however, was a brilliant, beloved,
Speaker 2: and beautiful black woman. Never allow for his name to
Speaker 2: ever again be used in the same sentence as hers.
Speaker 2: That is what's right, that is the truth, and that
Speaker 2: is how history must record these tragic events forevermore. Rest easy,
Speaker 2: Rest in power, Rest in love, Deny. This episode was
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