WEBVTT - I'm Not A Robot 👽

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It is LExEN Frooms on CATERA.

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<v Speaker 3>What does it mean when you check that box that

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<v Speaker 3>you're not a robot cap shah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited you're flexing Frooms on ru Meno boommmy lex Mom.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Flex and Frooms on cater Very excitingly,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, everybody. We have been talking about our

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<v Speaker 1>cult for actual literal months now, and we're very excited

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<v Speaker 1>to say that we're actually into a live podcast which

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be using as the official meetup for our friends

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<v Speaker 1>and family aka cult members. Akay yo. It's also going

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<v Speaker 1>to be our last live podcast recording and we want

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<v Speaker 1>to see you seeing this magic in person in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>Questions for you all, is there a reason we chose

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<v Speaker 1>to have our first official meeting in Melbourne? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>a reason? I mean, we did the same thing last

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<v Speaker 1>year and it was quite fun. It was like good weather.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Ourbury Float afterwards and had a pizza

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<v Speaker 1>and some drinks, so very happy with that. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>recommend going to the MNGB afterwards for cold members coming down.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we want to identify each other bring gifts.

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<v Speaker 1>So last year as well, a woman came with her

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<v Speaker 1>mum and I told them to do love harthands. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember which style of hand or no. I told

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<v Speaker 1>them to do when you put the index finger, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what's it called star trek star trek fingers And they

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<v Speaker 1>did that and then we could see each other. And

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<v Speaker 1>the last one is this is for you listening. If

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<v Speaker 1>you come, bring your stories because we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing love lines live and am I the assholes and

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<v Speaker 1>we want to hear from you Tuesday, the twenty eighth

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<v Speaker 1>of November and we'll be there in the afternoon from

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<v Speaker 1>three pm. So check out in stuff like some rooms

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<v Speaker 1>for details. Cada had always live in Melbourne. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you there.

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<v Speaker 2>Take time, tech time, text time. It's tech time with

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<v Speaker 2>Flex and Frooms on Kita push it to the next level.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the Flex and Froom show is all about learning

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<v Speaker 1>and coming together for the great too good. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have always bunded guys when I go on a website

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes me check that I'm not a robot box.

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<v Speaker 1>For years, I thought it was the weirdest, funniest, craziest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been going on since I record we've been

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<v Speaker 1>using the internet. You click I'm not a robot and

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<v Speaker 1>they say, okay, we're going to show you fire HYDRATEX.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you got to click the fire hydrants and I'm checking,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking it over. Is that part of the fire

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<v Speaker 1>hydrant if it's just a little tiny little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>it is up the top. Turns out there is a

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<v Speaker 1>method to the madness, and I'm willing to explain it

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<v Speaker 1>to you all. Capture is what it's called, and a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of completely automated public turing test to tell computers

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<v Speaker 1>and humans apart capture you think that they would find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to make that a little less verbos, would

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<v Speaker 1>you not? And let me explain it Essentially, when you

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<v Speaker 1>were clicking I'm not a robot, you were instructing the

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<v Speaker 1>site to have a look at your data and decide

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<v Speaker 1>for itself. If the machine is not sure, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>it directs you to click on light room pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>fire hydrant that aren't there. When you click on that checkbox,

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<v Speaker 1>the site sends back a bunch of information to Google,

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<v Speaker 1>said someone from a security website. This information can be

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<v Speaker 1>your cursor movement. As you got to click that check box,

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<v Speaker 1>because apparently humans move their curses with more randomness than

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<v Speaker 1>a computer. You would hope, also checks your cookies and

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<v Speaker 1>your device history. Google uses that information to determine the

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<v Speaker 1>probability that you are human or a robot. Google then

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<v Speaker 1>sends that score to the website, and if the score

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<v Speaker 1>is high enough, they'll let you in. Essentially, when you

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<v Speaker 1>click I'm not a robot, you're giving Google permission to

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<v Speaker 1>analyze your online behavior to determine if you're a human.

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<v Speaker 2>And even that, I feel like it's not a good

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<v Speaker 2>It's not good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a good way to determine if we're human

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<v Speaker 3>or not because I feel like all the latest tech

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<v Speaker 3>now it's figuring out how to mimic what it is

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<v Speaker 3>to be a human. I'm sure that there's been some

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<v Speaker 3>random hacker genius who's figured out human key strokes, especially

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<v Speaker 3>because we're all kind of trained to type in the

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<v Speaker 3>same way and move our curses similarly. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>there'd be that much distinction between how we as human

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<v Speaker 3>to use our stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe because it feels so second nature

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<v Speaker 1>to us. There's like all these little quirks that it

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<v Speaker 1>would be hard to replicate. But apparently in July twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, the researchers at Union of California found that

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<v Speaker 1>aibots were more efficient solve and capture than humans. So

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like we're going to need a new test.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe just plug into the webcam for a sec look

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<v Speaker 1>at who's looking. You wouldn't be able to do it

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<v Speaker 1>for me because I recently covered mine up. Why because

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<v Speaker 1>I just it's there. Anyone could. Really, it's too many

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<v Speaker 1>horror stories. It's like better protected than not protected. You

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<v Speaker 1>know you're listening to flex and Rooms on.

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<v Speaker 3>Kit as you know. I'm a self identified and self

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<v Speaker 3>described girl boss. Do you identify with everything about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Not particularly, But what I do identify with is encouraging

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<v Speaker 3>women to figure out how to protect themselves financially in

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<v Speaker 3>a world that's not made for themselves. I really do

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<v Speaker 3>resent anti girlboss rhetoric, especially coming from women, because you

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<v Speaker 3>are not said the same tools that your male counterparts

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<v Speaker 3>are to survive. And so when women are attacking women

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<v Speaker 3>about this girl bossory, you are becoming vehicles of the patriarchy.

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<v Speaker 3>You're doing exactly what they want you to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, just to say, I never actually thought about it

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<v Speaker 1>when I was saying, down with the girl boss. I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought it was a funny thing to say.

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<v Speaker 3>All the tools that we need to survive in a

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<v Speaker 3>capitalist world, unfortunately are not handed to us. And if

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<v Speaker 3>you do not live in a family with the generational wealth,

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't live in a family that is tertiary educated,

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't live in a family that has any

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<v Speaker 3>understanding of, you know, world economics, you do get left

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<v Speaker 3>behind quite dramatically by the time you reach adulthood. And

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm not saying be a girl boss, but I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>understand the way the world works, so you can opt

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<v Speaker 3>out intentionally or opt in intentionally. I found this on

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<v Speaker 3>the Refinary twenty nine UK website, and it's talking about

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three study done by the Young Women's Trust

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<v Speaker 3>that found that fifty six percent of women say their

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<v Speaker 3>finances have gotten worse over the last twelve months compared

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<v Speaker 3>to forty percent of men. That's compared to twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>just a year ago, where it was forty nine percent

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<v Speaker 3>of young women versus forty percent of men. That shows

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<v Speaker 3>a significant gap for me between the two. That's like

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen percent worse. Babes over the course of a year

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<v Speaker 3>and no signs of getting better because people don't know

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<v Speaker 3>that this is happening. It goes on to say that

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<v Speaker 3>almost a third of the young women's surveyed have been

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<v Speaker 3>unable to afford food or essential supplies, up from a

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<v Speaker 3>quarter last year, and that compares to only twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>percent of men and a quarter of young women have

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<v Speaker 3>fallen behind on rent or bills in the last year,

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<v Speaker 3>and only sixteen percent of men have said the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Babes, Come on, now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>When you see one or two exceptional girl bosses spewing

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<v Speaker 3>patriarchal rhetoric, it's not great, don't follow it. But for

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<v Speaker 3>the most part, it's when you see stories of business

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<v Speaker 3>men doing amazing things that doesn't apply to you, because like,

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<v Speaker 3>no businessman is hiring Sarah over Sam, no businessman is

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<v Speaker 3>hiring Natalie over Noah. So all I'm saying is protect

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<v Speaker 3>your neck because the corporations won't, these banks won't, and

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<v Speaker 3>when you're here on your internet being like na gumbus,

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<v Speaker 3>it's bad. Now. Look, the unfortunate thing about these surveys

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<v Speaker 3>is what they couldn't figure out is the why you

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<v Speaker 3>can have a ton of different hypotheses about why it's happening,

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that women are marketed towards more often, the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that we are often sold solutions to insecurities that

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be insecurities, and all of these things. But with

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<v Speaker 3>that in mind, we're self aware about these things happening,

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<v Speaker 3>so we should be more self aware about the solution

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<v Speaker 3>as well. It's very easy to say, oh, just change

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<v Speaker 3>it and do better, but the first step is to

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<v Speaker 3>acknowledge that, like, this stuff isn't a game, and people

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<v Speaker 3>really want you to be behind so they can get

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<v Speaker 3>ahead in spite of you. It's flexing frooms on Cata,

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<v Speaker 3>get your bag up.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you girls, but there has been

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<v Speaker 1>a time in my life where I've been on a

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<v Speaker 1>bad date. Would we all say that has happened at

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<v Speaker 1>least once?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the early twenties vibes like when you lack discernment,

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, this is not what it gives. But I've

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<v Speaker 3>been on a bad date in like five years, six years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say it's much the same for me

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<v Speaker 1>as well. It's funny though, I feel like when you're younger,

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine when you get to like your late twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>that it's that very movie like you're sitting down at

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<v Speaker 1>the dinner and it's that kind of bad date. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the one bad date that sticks out in my mind

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<v Speaker 1>that I use an excuse for was when I was

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<v Speaker 1>like nineteen or twenty and I was on Tinder and

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<v Speaker 1>I met this guy and we went and got dumplings

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the city, and I just remember

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<v Speaker 1>like it just was not vibing straight away, like I

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<v Speaker 1>just knew, so I had to pretend that my friend

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<v Speaker 1>was having a breakdown. Surely people know when you're lying right.

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<v Speaker 2>In the same way, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you've ever experienced being polite to

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<v Speaker 3>someone you're not interested in to wean them off and

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<v Speaker 3>then you're kind of like, wow, they're still texting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that subtle tea is exactly that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's subtle, and you've got to be tuned in to

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<v Speaker 3>clock it, or just a very like hyper aware, anxious

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<v Speaker 3>kind of person who's like constantly doing pattern recognition and

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<v Speaker 3>scanning the.

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<v Speaker 1>Room and recognition literally because I.

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<v Speaker 3>Could imagine, you know, I think about this when I

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<v Speaker 3>watched Love Island, when from this bird's eye view of

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<v Speaker 3>being a viewer, you're like, how do they not know?

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<v Speaker 2>How can you?

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<v Speaker 3>How can you not tell he's not keen? But when

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<v Speaker 3>you're in when you're in the room cooking, when you're

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<v Speaker 3>in the kitchen cooking.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, wait, like there's a vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, you're both as charming and charismatic people having

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<v Speaker 3>a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what that looks like. Damn far out. I like

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<v Speaker 1>to think that I wouldn't have to like use a

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<v Speaker 1>friend excuse anymore, but I definitely don't think I'm above it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think I ever will be like, what,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your friend excuse? Saying Oh, my god, my friend

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<v Speaker 1>just called me. I need to pick up from the airport.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you used that before?

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<v Speaker 1>Not the airport specifically, but yeah, I've said, oh, my

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<v Speaker 1>friend's really sick, she's having a break My favorite is

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<v Speaker 1>always my friend's having a breakdown.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't even believe yourself you're saying it, Which friend

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<v Speaker 2>do you have in mind? Are you like method acting

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<v Speaker 2>a certain thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, every time Madison she needs me, she needs me,

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<v Speaker 1>she needs me, So that's what i'd use. But Mickey

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<v Speaker 1>told us that there is an app called Bad Date Rescue,

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<v Speaker 1>and it like calls you or something. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those apps that like makes your phone fake

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<v Speaker 1>ring oh so you can be like, oh, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to go take a call. It's like the what's it

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<v Speaker 1>called the like tiktoks? Have you seen his tiktoks? And

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<v Speaker 1>the guy's like save this audio and he's like hate babe,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like an American guy, hate babe, Like when

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<v Speaker 1>are you coming home? Oh, I'm going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>out the front dah da da. I also read Hannah

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<v Speaker 1>Ferguson's book Bite Back, and she talks about how in

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<v Speaker 1>high school this like safety officer, as part of sex said,

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<v Speaker 1>came to her like girl class and was telling them

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<v Speaker 1>how to like protect themselves or went through all this

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<v Speaker 1>self defense. And one of his things was like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>install the security camera, just put a pair of really

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<v Speaker 1>big shoes outside your door.

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<v Speaker 2>Mmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, given this interesting flex is very interesting. It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to cater on D A B or stream

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