Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 2: It is LExEN Frooms on CATERA.
Speaker 3: What does it mean when you check that box that
Speaker 3: you're not a robot cap shah.
Speaker 1: I'm excited you're flexing Frooms on ru Meno boommmy lex Mom.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Frooms on cater Very excitingly,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, everybody. We have been talking about our
Speaker 1: cult for actual literal months now, and we're very excited
Speaker 1: to say that we're actually into a live podcast which
Speaker 1: we'll be using as the official meetup for our friends
Speaker 1: and family aka cult members. Akay yo. It's also going
Speaker 1: to be our last live podcast recording and we want
Speaker 1: to see you seeing this magic in person in Melbourne.
Speaker 1: Questions for you all, is there a reason we chose
Speaker 1: to have our first official meeting in Melbourne? Is there
Speaker 1: a reason? I mean, we did the same thing last
Speaker 1: year and it was quite fun. It was like good weather.
Speaker 1: I went to Ourbury Float afterwards and had a pizza
Speaker 1: and some drinks, so very happy with that. Also, I
Speaker 1: recommend going to the MNGB afterwards for cold members coming down.
Speaker 1: How do we want to identify each other bring gifts.
Speaker 1: So last year as well, a woman came with her
Speaker 1: mum and I told them to do love harthands. I
Speaker 1: can't remember which style of hand or no. I told
Speaker 1: them to do when you put the index finger, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's it called star trek star trek fingers And they
Speaker 1: did that and then we could see each other. And
Speaker 1: the last one is this is for you listening. If
Speaker 1: you come, bring your stories because we're going to be
Speaker 1: doing love lines live and am I the assholes and
Speaker 1: we want to hear from you Tuesday, the twenty eighth
Speaker 1: of November and we'll be there in the afternoon from
Speaker 1: three pm. So check out in stuff like some rooms
Speaker 1: for details. Cada had always live in Melbourne. We'll see
Speaker 1: you there.
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Speaker 1: Oh, the Flex and Froom show is all about learning
Speaker 1: and coming together for the great too good. And I
Speaker 1: have always bunded guys when I go on a website
Speaker 1: and it makes me check that I'm not a robot box.
Speaker 1: For years, I thought it was the weirdest, funniest, craziest thing.
Speaker 1: This has been going on since I record we've been
Speaker 1: using the internet. You click I'm not a robot and
Speaker 1: they say, okay, we're going to show you fire HYDRATEX.
Speaker 1: Then you got to click the fire hydrants and I'm checking,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it over. Is that part of the fire
Speaker 1: hydrant if it's just a little tiny little bit of
Speaker 1: it is up the top. Turns out there is a
Speaker 1: method to the madness, and I'm willing to explain it
Speaker 1: to you all. Capture is what it's called, and a
Speaker 1: sense of completely automated public turing test to tell computers
Speaker 1: and humans apart capture you think that they would find
Speaker 1: a way to make that a little less verbos, would
Speaker 1: you not? And let me explain it Essentially, when you
Speaker 1: were clicking I'm not a robot, you were instructing the
Speaker 1: site to have a look at your data and decide
Speaker 1: for itself. If the machine is not sure, that's when
Speaker 1: it directs you to click on light room pictures of
Speaker 1: fire hydrant that aren't there. When you click on that checkbox,
Speaker 1: the site sends back a bunch of information to Google,
Speaker 1: said someone from a security website. This information can be
Speaker 1: your cursor movement. As you got to click that check box,
Speaker 1: because apparently humans move their curses with more randomness than
Speaker 1: a computer. You would hope, also checks your cookies and
Speaker 1: your device history. Google uses that information to determine the
Speaker 1: probability that you are human or a robot. Google then
Speaker 1: sends that score to the website, and if the score
Speaker 1: is high enough, they'll let you in. Essentially, when you
Speaker 1: click I'm not a robot, you're giving Google permission to
Speaker 1: analyze your online behavior to determine if you're a human.
Speaker 2: And even that, I feel like it's not a good
Speaker 2: It's not good.
Speaker 3: It's not a good way to determine if we're human
Speaker 3: or not because I feel like all the latest tech
Speaker 3: now it's figuring out how to mimic what it is
Speaker 3: to be a human. I'm sure that there's been some
Speaker 3: random hacker genius who's figured out human key strokes, especially
Speaker 3: because we're all kind of trained to type in the
Speaker 3: same way and move our curses similarly. I don't think
Speaker 3: there'd be that much distinction between how we as human
Speaker 3: to use our stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe because it feels so second nature
Speaker 1: to us. There's like all these little quirks that it
Speaker 1: would be hard to replicate. But apparently in July twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, the researchers at Union of California found that
Speaker 1: aibots were more efficient solve and capture than humans. So
Speaker 1: it looks like we're going to need a new test.
Speaker 1: Maybe just plug into the webcam for a sec look
Speaker 1: at who's looking. You wouldn't be able to do it
Speaker 1: for me because I recently covered mine up. Why because
Speaker 1: I just it's there. Anyone could. Really, it's too many
Speaker 1: horror stories. It's like better protected than not protected. You
Speaker 1: know you're listening to flex and Rooms on.
Speaker 3: Kit as you know. I'm a self identified and self
Speaker 3: described girl boss. Do you identify with everything about it?
Speaker 3: Not particularly, But what I do identify with is encouraging
Speaker 3: women to figure out how to protect themselves financially in
Speaker 3: a world that's not made for themselves. I really do
Speaker 3: resent anti girlboss rhetoric, especially coming from women, because you
Speaker 3: are not said the same tools that your male counterparts
Speaker 3: are to survive. And so when women are attacking women
Speaker 3: about this girl bossory, you are becoming vehicles of the patriarchy.
Speaker 3: You're doing exactly what they want you to do.
Speaker 1: Also, just to say, I never actually thought about it
Speaker 1: when I was saying, down with the girl boss. I
Speaker 1: just thought it was a funny thing to say.
Speaker 3: All the tools that we need to survive in a
Speaker 3: capitalist world, unfortunately are not handed to us. And if
Speaker 3: you do not live in a family with the generational wealth,
Speaker 3: if you don't live in a family that is tertiary educated,
Speaker 3: if you don't live in a family that has any
Speaker 3: understanding of, you know, world economics, you do get left
Speaker 3: behind quite dramatically by the time you reach adulthood. And
Speaker 3: so I'm not saying be a girl boss, but I'm saying,
Speaker 3: understand the way the world works, so you can opt
Speaker 3: out intentionally or opt in intentionally. I found this on
Speaker 3: the Refinary twenty nine UK website, and it's talking about
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three study done by the Young Women's Trust
Speaker 3: that found that fifty six percent of women say their
Speaker 3: finances have gotten worse over the last twelve months compared
Speaker 3: to forty percent of men. That's compared to twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: just a year ago, where it was forty nine percent
Speaker 3: of young women versus forty percent of men. That shows
Speaker 3: a significant gap for me between the two. That's like
Speaker 3: fifteen percent worse. Babes over the course of a year
Speaker 3: and no signs of getting better because people don't know
Speaker 3: that this is happening. It goes on to say that
Speaker 3: almost a third of the young women's surveyed have been
Speaker 3: unable to afford food or essential supplies, up from a
Speaker 3: quarter last year, and that compares to only twenty one
Speaker 3: percent of men and a quarter of young women have
Speaker 3: fallen behind on rent or bills in the last year,
Speaker 3: and only sixteen percent of men have said the same.
Speaker 2: Babes, Come on, now.
Speaker 1: This is the thing.
Speaker 3: When you see one or two exceptional girl bosses spewing
Speaker 3: patriarchal rhetoric, it's not great, don't follow it. But for
Speaker 3: the most part, it's when you see stories of business
Speaker 3: men doing amazing things that doesn't apply to you, because like,
Speaker 3: no businessman is hiring Sarah over Sam, no businessman is
Speaker 3: hiring Natalie over Noah. So all I'm saying is protect
Speaker 3: your neck because the corporations won't, these banks won't, and
Speaker 3: when you're here on your internet being like na gumbus,
Speaker 3: it's bad. Now. Look, the unfortunate thing about these surveys
Speaker 3: is what they couldn't figure out is the why you
Speaker 3: can have a ton of different hypotheses about why it's happening,
Speaker 3: the fact that women are marketed towards more often, the
Speaker 3: fact that we are often sold solutions to insecurities that
Speaker 3: shouldn't be insecurities, and all of these things. But with
Speaker 3: that in mind, we're self aware about these things happening,
Speaker 3: so we should be more self aware about the solution
Speaker 3: as well. It's very easy to say, oh, just change
Speaker 3: it and do better, but the first step is to
Speaker 3: acknowledge that, like, this stuff isn't a game, and people
Speaker 3: really want you to be behind so they can get
Speaker 3: ahead in spite of you. It's flexing frooms on Cata,
Speaker 3: get your bag up.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you girls, but there has been
Speaker 1: a time in my life where I've been on a
Speaker 1: bad date. Would we all say that has happened at
Speaker 1: least once?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the early twenties vibes like when you lack discernment,
Speaker 3: you're like, this is not what it gives. But I've
Speaker 3: been on a bad date in like five years, six years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say it's much the same for me
Speaker 1: as well. It's funny though, I feel like when you're younger,
Speaker 1: you imagine when you get to like your late twenties,
Speaker 1: that it's that very movie like you're sitting down at
Speaker 1: the dinner and it's that kind of bad date. Well,
Speaker 1: the one bad date that sticks out in my mind
Speaker 1: that I use an excuse for was when I was
Speaker 1: like nineteen or twenty and I was on Tinder and
Speaker 1: I met this guy and we went and got dumplings
Speaker 1: in the middle of the city, and I just remember
Speaker 1: like it just was not vibing straight away, like I
Speaker 1: just knew, so I had to pretend that my friend
Speaker 1: was having a breakdown. Surely people know when you're lying right.
Speaker 2: In the same way, you know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever experienced being polite to
Speaker 3: someone you're not interested in to wean them off and
Speaker 3: then you're kind of like, wow, they're still texting.
Speaker 2: I think that subtle tea is exactly that.
Speaker 3: It's subtle, and you've got to be tuned in to
Speaker 3: clock it, or just a very like hyper aware, anxious
Speaker 3: kind of person who's like constantly doing pattern recognition and
Speaker 3: scanning the.
Speaker 1: Room and recognition literally because I.
Speaker 3: Could imagine, you know, I think about this when I
Speaker 3: watched Love Island, when from this bird's eye view of
Speaker 3: being a viewer, you're like, how do they not know?
Speaker 2: How can you?
Speaker 3: How can you not tell he's not keen? But when
Speaker 3: you're in when you're in the room cooking, when you're
Speaker 3: in the kitchen cooking.
Speaker 2: And you're like, wait, like there's a vibe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're both as charming and charismatic people having
Speaker 3: a conversation.
Speaker 1: That's what that looks like. Damn far out. I like
Speaker 1: to think that I wouldn't have to like use a
Speaker 1: friend excuse anymore, but I definitely don't think I'm above it,
Speaker 1: and I don't think I ever will be like, what,
Speaker 1: what's your friend excuse? Saying Oh, my god, my friend
Speaker 1: just called me. I need to pick up from the airport.
Speaker 2: Have you used that before?
Speaker 1: Not the airport specifically, but yeah, I've said, oh, my
Speaker 1: friend's really sick, she's having a break My favorite is
Speaker 1: always my friend's having a breakdown.
Speaker 2: You don't even believe yourself you're saying it, Which friend
Speaker 2: do you have in mind? Are you like method acting
Speaker 2: a certain thing?
Speaker 1: Yes, every time Madison she needs me, she needs me,
Speaker 1: she needs me, So that's what i'd use. But Mickey
Speaker 1: told us that there is an app called Bad Date Rescue,
Speaker 1: and it like calls you or something. I think it's
Speaker 1: one of those apps that like makes your phone fake
Speaker 1: ring oh so you can be like, oh, I've got
Speaker 1: to go take a call. It's like the what's it
Speaker 1: called the like tiktoks? Have you seen his tiktoks? And
Speaker 1: the guy's like save this audio and he's like hate babe,
Speaker 1: and he's like an American guy, hate babe, Like when
Speaker 1: are you coming home? Oh, I'm going to be like
Speaker 1: out the front dah da da. I also read Hannah
Speaker 1: Ferguson's book Bite Back, and she talks about how in
Speaker 1: high school this like safety officer, as part of sex said,
Speaker 1: came to her like girl class and was telling them
Speaker 1: how to like protect themselves or went through all this
Speaker 1: self defense. And one of his things was like, don't
Speaker 1: install the security camera, just put a pair of really
Speaker 1: big shoes outside your door.
Speaker 2: Mmmm.
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