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Speaker 1: Jum mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: What's with whales?

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Speaker 1: Aren't they distressing images of the beached whales in Tasmania?

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Speaker 1: What I was with beyond two thousand, one hundred million

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Speaker 1: years ago? Actually it was thirty years ago. I went

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Speaker 1: to a whale museum in Boston. Remember I told you

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in past lives, but I felt like

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Speaker 1: I saw the paintings that had been done for the

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Speaker 1: early whaling boats, and I had this memory and I

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Speaker 1: just felt I could see myself underwater with these whales.

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Speaker 2: You're a whale?

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Speaker 1: No, I think I was. I'm not saying I was

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Speaker 1: a whale?

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Speaker 2: Is that when we take you out to see you're

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Speaker 2: always looking out to see the albatross and whales?

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Speaker 1: They are my brothers? Hard to buy for it Christmas?

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Speaker 2: It's terrible. How do you buy a sweater for a whale?

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Speaker 2: Or secondly, how do you get a gift for an albatross?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: How do you get them on your boat?

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Speaker 1: What I felt was that I was in the water

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Speaker 1: as someone who'd fallen off a whaling boat.

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Speaker 2: Are you were a whaler?

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Speaker 1: I think so. Having said that, I don't really believe it,

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Speaker 1: but it really felt so real. But my point is,

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Speaker 1: and I will get to it, is that I did

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Speaker 1: a story at the time as to wideer whales beach

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Speaker 1: themselves and it was decided, well, it's because they use

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Speaker 1: sonar to navigate. So here we are all these years

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Speaker 1: later and we still can't stop it happening or help

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Speaker 1: them when it does.

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Speaker 2: What's the theory.

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Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you what this is going on. At

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Speaker 1: the moment, about four hundred and fifty pilot whales have

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Speaker 1: been stranded inside Macquarie Harbor on the west coast of Tasmania.

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Speaker 1: Three hundred and eighty have been confirmed dead. Wow, it's

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Speaker 1: hard and they're fighting to save the thirty that remain.

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Speaker 1: Fifty have been rescued and coaxed back to the ocean.

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Speaker 1: But this, they are saying is maybe the largest on

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Speaker 1: record global, it's the worst in Australia's history. So a

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Speaker 1: couple of issues here is why they think they do it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of it still remains a mystery. They know

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Speaker 1: they use echo location to navigate, clicks and sound to

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Speaker 1: find their way around, but they're often led by an

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Speaker 1: individual because they are big family and pod groups. So

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Speaker 1: if the leader is getting old and is losing his

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Speaker 1: or her way. They may lead them into waters that

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Speaker 1: are dangerous for them.

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Speaker 2: Like Grandpa leading the family of driving expedition. He's in

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Speaker 2: the car in front and you all get lost.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or he leads the hike. But sometimes it's because

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Speaker 1: they've just misnavigated, maybe because they've taken evasive action because

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Speaker 1: they're hunting, Maybe they've been frightened, something's happened that pushed

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Speaker 1: them into a shallow area. Maybe they're just curious. But

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Speaker 1: they all do it as a pod, and once they

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Speaker 1: hit the sand that they need the water for their

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Speaker 1: chest cavities, you start to collapse on them.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: What I don't understand is when we push them back

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Speaker 1: out to see some still come back. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's because I'm assuming they are such big family units

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Speaker 1: that they hear the distress cause of others and come

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Speaker 1: back in.

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Speaker 2: It's a good sum. I know that we have a

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Speaker 2: lot of whales though these days that so many are

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Speaker 2: beaching themselves, and they're saying it's unprecedented. That shows that

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Speaker 2: the whale supplies have been well stocked.

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Speaker 1: It's just distressing to see though, isn't it. And then

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Speaker 1: they also have to work out what they're going to

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Speaker 1: do with the dead whales.

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Speaker 2: There's some try any calls from the Japanese. Are you

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Speaker 2: guys done with that? I'll take those.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they've got to either push them out to sea

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Speaker 1: or put them in a landfill. But how much space

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Speaker 1: does that take?

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Speaker 2: Es In America many years ago, whale washed up at

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Speaker 2: a beach I think in Long Island, New York, and

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Speaker 2: they thought the best way to get rid of it

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Speaker 2: was to blow it up, which is America's way of

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Speaker 2: dealing with it.

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Speaker 1: What did they think would happen?

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Speaker 2: They were thinking that it would vaporize. So I said,

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Speaker 2: what are you going to do? Is you put the

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Speaker 2: dynamite in here and the whale will vaporize. What happened, Well,

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Speaker 2: it blew up, but it didn't vaporize as much as

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Speaker 2: put car battery sized chunks of whale in a two

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Speaker 2: k radius of all the town.

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Speaker 1: Oh yuck.

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Speaker 2: Imagine the smell you know at Christmas time when you

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Speaker 2: put out the prawns in the bin.

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Speaker 1: Oh yuck. Anyway, Well, we'll keep you informed, and I

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Speaker 1: know Jim's following this on the news as to what

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Speaker 1: happens with those stranded whales with join Z and Amanda