1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: And joining me in the studio right now because we 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: know that well. The latest crime statistics are in and 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: show a thirty seven percent jump in home break ins, 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: a sixty eight percent jump in business break ins and 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: forty percent increase in Karthiff's in the Greater Darwin in 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: the last year to October. Now here to talk further 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: about this is the commander for Darwin and Road Policing, 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Danny Bacon. Good morning to you. 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, thank you now thanks. 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: For joining us, Commander. What major changes to the latest 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: crime statistics show from your perspective. 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: I think the major changes that are actually being demonstrating 13 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: these statistics, and mind you these are statistics from September 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 2: to September twenty one to twenty two. But whilst these 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: numbers are quite high, and particularly in the increase, that's 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: they're actually decreasing month on month, and I suppose that's 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 2: the main thing that we take home from this. Yes, 18 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: you did mention commercial break ins by sixty eight percent, 19 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: but that's improved by seven percent from the last month, 20 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: so and the house break ins again thirty seven but 21 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: down improved by two percent, So it's ending in the 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: right direction. So I'm not having an escalating of crime 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: within the territory, which is fantastic news from from a 24 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: dawn perspective. So those sorts of things where the struggle 25 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: was in regards to motive eicle theft, Yes, we went 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: backward to the motive ecle theft that was up for 27 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: one percent, but that was in Darwin. You know, Parmeerson 28 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: actually improved by twenty percent and so it's actually only 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: increased by three percent in Parmesan. So we're getting I 30 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: suppose better month on month crime statistics, and a lot 31 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: of that is actually a better coordination not just with 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: us but other service providers. 33 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: So I guess it'll be cold comfort, you know to 34 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: people who've had their vehicle stolen or their car or 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: their business broken into. But I wonder as well, with 36 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: that increase in the motor vehicle thefts over that period 37 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: of time, we had seen that period where there was 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: a lot of older model toyotas, the land cruisers, that 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: kind of thing being taken and a few of them 40 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: been taken out to remote communities certainly. 41 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: Where and that was the trend. As I said, there's 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: a September statistics and that trend was identified particularly around 43 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: the the airport area in those northern suburbs area, so 44 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: we expect to see in the month on month that 45 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: that would decrease significantly. We're not getting those reports now, 46 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: those volumes from that and certainly, as I said, it's 47 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: decreasing in the Parmesan area as well, so that's quite 48 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: positive itself. You know, the long term trend with property crime, 49 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: particularly in Darwen is decreasing over the ten year trend itself. 50 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: So it's just about us making sure that we're flexible 51 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: and adaptable to respond to these spikes. And really that's 52 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 2: what they are. There's spikes in crime, and you know, 53 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: any instant of crime bleed to violent crime or property 54 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: crime that happens to individuals witten by an individual is 55 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: obviously can be quite traumatic. And I'm not taking away 56 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: that traumatization. But what I'm trying to tell your listeners 57 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: is that yes there are problem areas and yes there 58 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: are crime spikes, but we are getting on top of 59 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: that and they are decreasing month on months. 60 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: What works happening around the greater Darwin region to try 61 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: to really get on top of that, because I know, 62 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: like you've pointed out, you know from what you're saying, 63 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: we're seeing a decrease month or month, but it's still 64 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: a assive increase from what it was the previous year. 65 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: What work is happening to try to really minimize that 66 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: increase or the crime that we're saying. 67 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 2: In essences when I say it's not a police responsibility. 68 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: Community safety is everybody's responsibility. And there's a number of 69 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: agencies that are funded both within government and in private 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: enterprise and non governmentities to work in that space. There 71 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: really is, And so what about what's all about? It's 72 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: about that working together, that coordination, So everyone working in 73 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: that space collectively addressing those hot spots. They're injecting that 74 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: they need to inject themselves, and so we can have 75 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: that coordinated activity too. Basically either a whole defenders to 76 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: account where are they offending, or do a lot of 77 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: preventative work so there's less offending in a particular area. 78 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: Now, often when we talk about crime stats, we do 79 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: see that displacement from communities or certainly that discussion comes up, 80 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: are we seeing, you know, are we seeing a lot 81 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: of people in town at the moment from communities or 82 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: has that changed to some degree as well within the 83 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: last months. 84 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: I certainly not just in the last month. That's certing 85 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: changed in the last seut of six months. In regards 86 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: to particularly visitation and particularly people that are sleeping rough 87 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: from remote communities. I think it peaked probably in about 88 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: April of this year, you know, when we certainly had 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: up to around three thousand people sleeping rough, which is 90 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: quite significant for a city of the size. So at 91 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: the moment you're probably looking at between five to five 92 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: hundred one thousand people probably sleeping rough. But there's a 93 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: number of I said, organizations that are really working in 94 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: that space, in housing, Crown Lands, Territory Families, Larochean Nation 95 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: Department chief men's ourselves really working with those individuals to 96 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: find them better places for safety. There's a lot of 97 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: reasons why people sleep rough, some of us not their 98 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: own choice, you know, through domestic violence, you know, through 99 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: escaping domestic violence, overcrowding of houses, through the white people 100 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: that actually wish to live that way. 101 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: And it's hard, I suppose because sometimes you know, we 102 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: are definitely seeing criminal behavior around the place, but other 103 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: times you are literally it's like anti social behavior, which 104 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: I guess that you know, if people are yelling and 105 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: carrying on outside a shopping center, but they're not necessarily 106 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: doing anything criminal. It's hard then for the police to 107 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: respond when it should potentially be another agency. 108 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: Yes and no, any sort of behavior, any social or otherwise, 109 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: is a police response, but there are other service before 110 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: is it also work in that particular space as well. 111 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: But sometimes people see what they deem in any social 112 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: behavior incident was actually a domestic violence incident, you know, 113 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: someone being assaulted or beaten up. There's also see perhaps 114 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: someone lying on the side of the road was thinking 115 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: in the toxica and that's the general go to and 116 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: the actually could be injured herd having something in medical episodes. 117 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: So there's a range of different reasons that behavior is 118 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: happening in our public space. It's about identifying what those 119 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: reasons are and then making sure they have appropriate response 120 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: to deal with that. 121 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: I have noticed as well, you know, when I've been 122 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: out at different locations over the last week or so, 123 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: that there does seem to be a greater police presence. 124 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Is that something that you as the commanders pushing for 125 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: at the moment for more police out on the base. 126 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: Certainly our resource numbers haven't changed, but obviously over the 127 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: COVID era, or of our normal resources in different areas 128 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: were I suppose diverted to the COVID response, although those 129 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 2: resources now have come back to where they're nominally placed. 130 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: And it's also making sure that there's more high visibility 131 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: in policing, but also that it's not just us working 132 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: in that space. And I suppose that's the key message 133 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: I want to say. It's not you, it's not just 134 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 2: us working in that area. It is a range of 135 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: different organizations, government and non government, and we can't do 136 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: it alone and neither can they. 137 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: So Commander, before I let you go, is there going 138 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: to be some extra sort of programs or you know, 139 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: extra you know, different things happening as we lead into Christmas? 140 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: Most definitely, and there's a number of I suppose operations 141 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: or operational tartans that will transpire over that period, principally 142 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: our Christmas campaign. As you're probably be aware, we've had 143 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: forty eight lives lost throughout the Northern Territory over this 144 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: year to date on the roads. You know, this time 145 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: last year we had twenty nine and in total last 146 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: year we had thirty five, so it's quite significant lives 147 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: lost in our roads themselves, but nominally through the fatal 148 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: five you need to speed you're alcohol fatigue and attention. 149 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: So you'll see a lot more enforcement activity not just 150 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: within Darned across the whole Northern Territory. I'll also work 151 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: with our service providers, particularly regards to youth programs and 152 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: what that looks like over that school holiday period as well. 153 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: We're looking at also making application to the Alcohol Policy 154 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: Coordination Unit in regards to making the Caserinea Precinct a 155 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: designated area so we could issue for banning notices and 156 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: banning drinking orders from that. 157 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: Particular location so people can't drink around that Casualina Precinct area. 158 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: That's what we're looking at doing ideas to try to 159 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 2: minimize the any social behavior in that particularly as well. 160 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: So I said, we'll work with a lot of agencies 161 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: to try and strengthen those up. We'll also obviously maximize 162 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: our on duty and high visibility patrols not just in 163 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: the traffic area, but also through our Strike Force LERA 164 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: that looks at our domestic violence but also our Strife 165 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: Force Triden as well. It looks our properly offending. 166 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: That casual what you're looking at potentially doing at Casuarina. 167 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: Does that sort of involve around the shopping center area, 168 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: the and the bus interchange and that kind of thing. 169 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: There's designated areas across the territory regards to where we 170 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: can issue banning notices, certainly the Darwin c b DO, 171 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: Catherine Alice Springs, Tennant, Greek and Parlerson as well. We 172 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: think the cash mat of precinct probably having get our 173 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: statistics there, would warrant such a designated area. So we've 174 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: we've made an application of the process of making an applications. 175 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: So we hope to have that in place over that 176 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: Christmas periods well to assist and it is just one tool, 177 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: but it's another tool to sort of hopefully decrease any 178 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: social behavior that area. 179 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, be keen to find out if that goes ahead. 180 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: Commander Danny Bacon, Darwin and Rhode Policing Commander, thank you 181 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: so much for your time this morning. 182 00:08:59,480 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: Thank you, Ca