1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: We know that Sentinel Property Group have lodged updated plans 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: to expand the Woolworths shopping mall at Casarina Square, add 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: more parking to improve customer safety and well. According to 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: a report last week by the Northern Territory News, that 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: new plan includes direct access to the Wooli's shopfront from 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: a raised ground level car park, a full refit of 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: the supermarket and a direct to boot facility. Joining us 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: on the line to tell us a little bit more 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: about the project is Sentinel's development director Greg Campbell. 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: Get a Greg, morning, Katie. How are you yeah? 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: Really well, thanks so much for your time this morning, Greg. 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: I understand that there are changes to the original plans. 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: What is Sentinel now looking at doing. 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Well? The original plans had an extended basement heading out 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: towards Trauer Road and upstairs was really just looking at 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: the refit of the Woolworth's supermarket, so they'll be bringing 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: that up to their latest national specification and that was 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: essentially it. We were raising the ground level out there 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: and had a director facility, but I just wasn't happy 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: with how that would affect family shopping and will encourage 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: family shopping and improve safety around there. 22 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: And so what's going to happen now, what's the design 23 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: improvements going to say? 24 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: Well, previously, as I said, the supermarket was just going 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: to be fitter than left by itself. Now the BWS 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: bottle shop will be closing and that will become just 27 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: traditional retail tenancy. And where you stand at the registers 28 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: at the moment and look out through the mall, you 29 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: stare at a blank wall where we'll be having shops 30 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: all along the side there. So that mall will be 31 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: widened so that it's more convenient for people to get 32 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: trolleys past each other. So it'll be a traditional more 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: width and there'll be shops all along the other side. 34 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: So as much as possible, we're going to replicate a 35 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: traditional neighborhood supermarket center to encourage family shops there. 36 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: And in terms of that BWS closing, is that something 37 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: that Sentinel decided to do or is that something you 38 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: know that you were sort of forced to do? 39 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: I guess no, we weren't forced to do it, and 40 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: neither was Woolworth's. It was done after a discussion between 41 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: Woolworths and ourselves a couple of months ago. The managing 42 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: director for Woolworth's property came up and visited the center 43 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: with his senior staff and we had a meeting on 44 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: site with the police and the Northern Territory government that 45 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: was instigated by ourselves just to toss around ideas on 46 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: how we can improve safety at that end of the center, 47 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: in particular in relation to the bus interchange, which we 48 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: all know the history there, and so that result came 49 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: out of that. 50 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Is that bus interchange moving or what exactly is happening 51 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: with it now? 52 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: Bus interchange is staying there, but we are going to 53 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: monitor the trouble that comes in from there and we'll 54 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: be looking at restricting access if that's necessary. 55 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: Well, which is fair enough, I guess it's. You know, 56 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: it's a tough one because there's people that use that 57 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: interchange that are all doing the right thing. But it's 58 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: been a bit of a haven, I suppose for antisocial 59 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: behavior over the years. 60 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: Hasn't it. It definitely has, And yes, you're right, it 61 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: will inconvenience some people if we do have to restrict 62 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: access there, but the vast majority of our customers come 63 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: by car, and particularly down that end of the center, 64 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: we're looking for them to do the family shop and 65 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: they're not doing that that will work the market at 66 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: the moment. 67 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: No. Well, I've got to tell you, even for myself, 68 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, over the years, I used to go there 69 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: and do that family shop, but it reached a point 70 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: where I sort of didn't feel overly safe going in 71 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: and out on some occasions because you think to yourself, 72 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: oh goodness me, you know what's going to happen as 73 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get in and out with my groceries 74 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: and trying to juggle everything correct. 75 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what we're going to address. So you're 76 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: a mum or dad gone there to do the weekly 77 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: shop with a chopping trolley full of goods, and you've 78 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: got the kids all around your knees, tugging and pulling 79 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: at you. It's all about convenience and getting from that 80 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: cash register to your car as conveniently as possible. And 81 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: that's what the design now will be addressing. 82 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 1: And so is there going to be additional car parking? 83 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, So the new design, the change from the 84 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: previous DA we received in this one, we've been able 85 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: to increase the car parking. 86 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: And then in terms of the approvals, is is it 87 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: all approved now? And ready to go ahead or is 88 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: it something that you're still waiting for further approvals on. 89 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: Oh, we just need this latest one to be approved. 90 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: Of course, we've increased those shops that I was just 91 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: talking about, so that that by default triggers a new 92 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: development application, so otherwise it would have been just an amendment. 93 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 94 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: Right. 95 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: And then once that, once that sort of all happens, 96 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: once you get that approval, how quickly will that work start. 97 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,559 Speaker 2: We're in the final stages of doing our preliminary design, 98 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 2: so as soon as I get the dall, we'll get 99 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: into the detailed design, do all our documentation drawings and 100 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: go to tender in the new year. 101 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. And then in terms of the redevelopment 102 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: at the quarter, what's the latest there. 103 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: Same stage we've just got that, got that approval, so 104 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: we've just you would have reported that we've just done 105 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: a deal with the gym there to increase their size 106 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: to two thousand meters and become a world gym, So 107 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: they'll be totally cleaning out that tenancy and refitting it 108 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: with all the latest equipment. So we're looking at once 109 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: again going to tenure on that in the new year, 110 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: and depending on the on the cabin side of it. 111 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: They're going through their liquor license application at the moment. 112 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and so that that aspect of it, the 113 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: lequal license hasn't hasn't yet been approved. 114 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: No, No, that's a procedure they have to go through. 115 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: But we'll work around that. We've got to get that quarter. 116 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: Well it sounds we can't leave it the way it is. 117 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: No, absolutely definitely needs to be needs to be revamped, 118 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: I spose and get people moving through there again I'm. 119 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: Assuming yeah, yeah, So it'll be enclosed, it will be 120 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: air conditioned. The entry from the where the old taxi 121 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: rank was. That'll feel like just to additional entry into 122 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 2: a into a modern day shopping center. 123 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: Well, really good to speak to you this morning, Greg, 124 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time, appreciate you having a chat to 125 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: us about some of the changes that are set to 126 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: come into place there at Casarina Square, and no doubt 127 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: they will be quite welcome by shoppers. Thank you, Cody, 128 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: thanks so much.