1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, White Fox Boutique is canceled 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: on TikTok over shipping delays as she Binds offers up 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: her Christmas tree to flood victims, and Steph cliar Smith 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Santa Prep goes viral for the wrong reason. Hello, and 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: and I feel like we have been keeping a secret 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: from the podcast for a couple of months now. There's 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: really been four of us on the microphones, hasn't. Okay, well, 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: there has been, and whenever we had to give an 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: update of our week, it was always like, oh, what's 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: everyone been up to? And we couldn't really say because 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: I am pregnant. So I am fifteen weeks today, So 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: my baby is the size of a pair. I'm one 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: of those people that have been keeping up to date 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: with the size of the fruit. For some reason. I 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: find it so interesting because when you told us, you 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: said that the baby was the size of an olive, 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: so we said it was a little cocktail olive. We've 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: been calling it olive for some time now. Now. We 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: did put up a Q and A a couple of days ago, 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: and there's been a lot of questions about your baby. 23 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Are you going to be doing a gender reveal or 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: do you know the gender yet? Ok So I do 25 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: know the gender. We did a nest test, so that's 26 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: why we found out. And I don't know whether to 27 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: state on the podcast or not. I haven't actually asked Reese. 28 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: I think you can say it. Come on, you just 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: telling friends. Okay, so we are having a boy, so boy. 30 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm not a massive fan of ostentatious gender reveals, but 31 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: I did get a cake and it was on Reese's birthday, 32 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: so I thought it was quite fitting. It was just 33 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: amongst family, and to be honest, I had a deep 34 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: down feeling that it was going to be a girl, 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: and you guys wanted it to be a girl. So 36 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: it was a big surprise. I'm very happy to be 37 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: having a boy. But you know when you've got a 38 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: gut feel and it just you're completely thrown by it. Well, 39 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: we were throwing a little bit because when you picked 40 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: up the cake, it had pink glitter on the white 41 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: icing and we were like, oh my god, they've stuffed une. Yeah. 42 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: I was like which Baker has done this because So 43 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: just to rewind a little bit, that day, on Reese's birthday, 44 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: we actually got our twelve week scan and Reese goes 45 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: after it, Oh, I know what it is, and I said, 46 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: do not ruin it. But I'm like, oh, he's obviously 47 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: seen something like a penis or something. So then I 48 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: was like, oh, it must be a boy. But then 49 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: when I picked up the cake and saw the pink, 50 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this makes things more interesting today. 51 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: And my favorite part of your gender reveal was when 52 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: the blue piece of cake got revealed. You said in 53 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: front of your in laws, Oh, I guess I've got 54 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: a penis inside me right now. I was just absolutely classic. Now, 55 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: another question that people have been asking is how did 56 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: you break the news to us? Oh? I thought you're 57 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: gonna say to Reese because that story is pretty funny. No, 58 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: we're more important in this. No, I think she should 59 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: start with how she told Reese because it was quite 60 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: a stuff up. So I actually did the pregnancy test 61 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: by myself, and I wanted to do a really nice 62 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: surprise for Reese because I've seen so many on TikTok. 63 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: So I decided to go buy a little pair of 64 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: Converse shoes, put the pregnancy test in a box and 65 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: then give it to him, and I thought, oh, maybe 66 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: I'll make a nice dinner. I was making an apple pie. God, 67 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: I sound like some sort of step food wife. Anyway, 68 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: So in the meantime, I was having all these thoughts 69 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: and emotions. And I used to write a journal when 70 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: I was eighteen. So I started to write a journal 71 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: and on the first page I wrote the date and 72 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: wrote today, I found out I was p r And 73 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: then I realized I'd spelt something wrong, so I ripped 74 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: the page out, scrunched it up, and then left it 75 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: on the couch forgetting that I'd left the piece of 76 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: paper that I packed the journal away and everything. Anyway, 77 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: Reese gets home, I'm making this apple pie. He comes 78 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: into the kitchen with the crump put up piece of 79 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: paper and he's like, what's this And I couldn't quite 80 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: remember it I'd written on it. I was like, oh, yeah, 81 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: that's just something from an old notebook. But I had 82 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: the date on it. And he's like, are you sure 83 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: it's not your writing? And I was like, nah, that's 84 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: not mine. And then he walked out of the kitchen. 85 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: I was like, holy fuck. So I had to go 86 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: get the box and be like, I think I've ruined 87 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: the surprise. So that was quite awkward but kind of 88 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: funny at the same time. It's not quite the vibe 89 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: of those influenced agenda reveals and everyone's crying and the 90 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: camera set up in the corner. Yeah. I suppose that's 91 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: why I had such strong opinions on jar Da Twinci's 92 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: because when I did the pregnancy test, like, I was 93 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: just more shocked. I wasn't crying. It wasn't like a 94 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: moment that I even thought film at all. Yeah, but 95 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean, unless you're an influencer, who really would even think, oh, 96 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to feel myself looking at this pregnancy test. 97 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: But I also think everyone's reaction is unique to them 98 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: because some people may have been trying for a considerable 99 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: amount of time, so they might be more emotional towards it. 100 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people were asking if Sophie and I 101 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: had any idea that you were pregnant because of the 102 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: whole triplet thing, and I'm like, no, we had no idea. 103 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: So it was a great shock when you announce it 104 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: that our family dinner. See, I was surprised because we 105 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: had your Hens party when I think I was like 106 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: six weeks pregnant, and I was so annoyed. I couldn't 107 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: tell anyone because we were waiting on this eight week 108 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: scan because I did have a bit of spotting and 109 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: they wanted to just verify that everything was okay. And 110 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm having to like lug shit around for your Hen's party, 111 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: and I was really grumpy. I was on my feet 112 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: the whole day. That has been a new thing with 113 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: the pregnancies. Kate has been very, very grumpy, Sophie. I 114 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: think a lot of people will be rolling their eyes 115 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: when they hear you say that, because I think that 116 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: I should be getting a free pass to be grumpy, because, 117 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: to be honest, I think is really my only pregnancy 118 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: symptom at the moment, and I'm so lucky about that, 119 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: especially that was a symptom before the prince. Is that 120 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: why it's next level grumpiness because there's no other symptoms. 121 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: I am now on the side of TikTok. They're serving 122 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: pregnancy content, and I feel so sorry for women that 123 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: do experience severe symptoms during the first trimester, because now 124 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: that I'm in my second I'm like I dodged a bullet. 125 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't sick. I did have a tiny little bit 126 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: of nausea at the start, And the only other thing 127 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: is just I was eating a shit ton of chips. 128 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: It's just the other people in your life that have 129 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: copped the pregnancy symptom of you've been grumpy. We did 130 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: joke that Kate's baby will love Hungry Jacks when it's born, 131 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: because I think that every time I've called you, Kate, 132 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: you have been going through a Hungry Jacks drive through 133 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: and you have been cheating on McDonald's. Well, there's a 134 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Hungry Jacks near me, which makes it more convenient, But 135 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: I have been loving a whopper and a chip, so 136 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: it's what the baby wants. We need to get back 137 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: to how you told us those. So we were at 138 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: our family dinner at our mum and dad's house, and 139 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: Kate had been harping on about putting up the family 140 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: Christmas tree, and you just seemed next level passionate about it. 141 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: I was so shocked because she's been trying to save 142 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: money and all of a sudden, she pulls out this 143 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: bag full of presents for everyone, and that's that moment 144 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: I was like something, Yeahtney, something's not quite right. Well, 145 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: when you say a bag full of presents, it was 146 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: a decoration for each of us. So it was a 147 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: wrapped bable and on the ba ball it had Auntie, Sophie, 148 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: Auntie Amy, and you had Grandma and Grandpa for Mum 149 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: and dad. And because we always joked that their grandma 150 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: and Grandpa because of the dogs, they didn't twig. They 151 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: were like, oh, yeah, thanks for the bable. Somehow Mum 152 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: got dads and dad got mums. It is funny watching 153 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: people's reactions because it dawned on people at different times. 154 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: We also did something similar with Reese's family. So on Etsy, 155 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: they have these personalized scratches that you can buy, so 156 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: it comes up with three babies, and then it has 157 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: a little personalized list because Reese's mum loves scratchies and 158 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: everyone's doing it. But we realized that the scratchy was 159 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: kind of harder than a normal scratchy. So I've got 160 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: Reese's nan sitting next to me, who's ninety, and she 161 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: is struggling so much, so I'm trying to scratch it 162 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: really quickly. And then my sister in law, Pip, she 163 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: scratched At first, she leapt from the table and was like, 164 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: so everyone thought she'd won all this money? What did 165 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: you win? And she goes, it's a gift for everyone, 166 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: but hilarious because it started dawning on everyone and everyone's 167 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: running over and giving me a hug. But poor Nan 168 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: next to me. It took her a while, and then 169 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: she she leant over and goes, are you pregnant? It 170 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: was so cue. Look when I opened it, I knew immediately, 171 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: but I almost didn't want to ruin the surprise for someone. 172 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: It's okay, when are you ju So? I am you 173 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: in June? Winter? Baby? That's really not that far away, 174 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: which blows my mind. It felt like far away when 175 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: we're in twenty twenty three, but now that we're in 176 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, it's becoming a little bit more real. 177 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: There were a few questions about the weddings as well. 178 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: Someone's very concerned about our bride's maid dresses. I didn't 179 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: send that question in myself, because Kate, you are going 180 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: to meet six months pregnant my wedding. I know you 181 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: keep asking me what size are you going to be? 182 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, I have no idea. It's so hard to guess. 183 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean I'm wearing my normal size at Amy's wedding. 184 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: I have yet to try the dress on. I'm hoping 185 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: that my stomach doesn't grow too much in the next 186 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: two weeks. Well yeah, I don't know what we'll do 187 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: about that, but I'm sure it will fit. We'll just 188 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: create a cutout on the dress. Maybe someone did ask 189 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: her you guys excited to be aunties. I've already gone 190 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: out and bought this kid a couple of toys, so 191 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm very excited. It's an excuse to go into the 192 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: kids section. I love soft toys, so I bought him 193 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: a lion. I am just a bit nervous about him 194 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: being a boy. That's the only thing that's kind of 195 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: put me off guard, because I know little girls, I 196 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: don't know little boys. So it's going to be a 197 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: bit of an adventure. I'm excited because this is a 198 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: little boy that I'll be able to kick the football with, 199 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: have a hit of tennis with if he wants to. 200 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm also excited, Kate, for you to start referring to 201 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: yourself as a boy. 202 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: Mom. 203 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, as soon as I slice that piece of gender revealed, Kate, 204 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: You're like you're a boy mom, and I was like, well, 205 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,479 Speaker 1: gives me the absolutely it. I love it. Because our hairdresser, 206 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: I feel like she could be a bit of a 207 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: sidekick because she predicted that you were having a boy. Well, 208 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: she also predicted I was pregnant. When I was literally 209 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: six weeks pregnant. I went to get my hair cut 210 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: and I went in and I said, oh, I don't mind, 211 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm not picky if you cut a bit off, and 212 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: she goes, you're pregnant, and I was like sorry. So 213 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: I was told I was not allowed to tell anyone 214 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: under strict instructions. I went in there a couple of 215 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: weeks later and I said, oh, yeah, Kate, it's been 216 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: a bit grumpy. And then all of a sudden, Maryanne's like, 217 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: she's pregnant. She's pregnant. Yeah, she just knows these things, 218 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: and so yeah, her prediction is that soph and Kate 219 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: will have boys, but I will get a little girl 220 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: because I'm more of a tomboy. So we'll have to 221 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: see if that happens. Now, before we get into the 222 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: regular show, we do want to say we are back 223 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: to normal, so our two influencer shows will be free 224 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,239 Speaker 1: to listen to, and we will continue to share Outspoken 225 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: Plus content, which, as our us Spoken Plus listeners will know, 226 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: is an array of different contents. We have deep dives, 227 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: we have influencer chats, we also have stuff about us 228 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, a bit of everything on there. Yeah, 229 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: and the reasoning for putting out some deep dives over 230 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: the summer break was it gave us the ability to 231 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: bolt record a lot of content because we do work 232 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: full time, as a lot of you guys know, so 233 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: it enabled us to get through the busy period of 234 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: the year but also continue to put out content because 235 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: we didn't want to go on break. A lot of 236 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: podcasts go on a break very well, does it a 237 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: breakover summer? I'm hating it because all my regular podcasts 238 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: are on a break and I'm like, what am I 239 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: supposed to listen to? Also, we did want to test 240 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: the water and see what you want to listen to, 241 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: because we did have a really strong response to a 242 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: number of the influencer deep dives we did on the 243 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: subs channel, so we wanted to share some of the 244 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: content that is on there. But we are back to normal. 245 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: We've been seeing all of the I have been seeing 246 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: all of the reviews. It's horessing me out, and I 247 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: just want to know we're back to normal. I know, 248 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to get back into some influencers stories 249 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: because so much has gone on over the Christmas break, 250 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: especially I. 251 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: Don't know if it's just me, but I'm canceling White Fox. 252 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: They canceled controversial fashion brand White Fox Boutique has been 253 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: accused of ruining Christmas, with customers complaining they've been waiting 254 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: weeks for their orders to arrive, while jen Zetas have 255 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: been canceling White Fox across TikTok. The story has also 256 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: hit the mainstream media, with the current affair launching in 257 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: expos into the brand's delays. Sophie, can you bring us 258 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: up to speed? Oh, this has been a massive shit 259 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: storm over Christmas and I've been dying to talk about 260 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: it so over the break. Videos of customers slamming White 261 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: Fox Boutique have been going viral on TikTok, and In 262 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: the videos, customers have complained about lengthy shipping delays, with 263 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: some claiming they've been waiting for over four weeks to 264 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: receive their orders and things got really juicy when five 265 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: days out from Christmas, a Current Affair launched an expose 266 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: into the drama. So the journo who's called Hannah Sinclair, 267 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: somehow managed to convince the owners, Georgia and Daniel Kontos, 268 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: to let them inside the warehouse and also appear on 269 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: camera for an interview. I wonder, having previously worked at 270 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: a current affairs rival today tonight, whether the owners thought 271 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: they were actually doing an interview for the news, because 272 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: that is a bit of a tactic. Sometimes they'll be like, hey, 273 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: you're actually just filming a story for nine, but not 274 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: specifically say it's for a current affair. Why would they 275 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: agree to appear on camera to talk about this, because 276 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: I just think looked terribly. I actually think it was 277 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: the right pr move. If I was a publicist for 278 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: White Fox Boutique, my advice would be to be on 279 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: the front foot, especially when you're dealing with a show 280 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: like a Current Affair. But I guess they've got the 281 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: messaging right now. But the journey has already got everything 282 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: that they need to turn this into a really damning story. 283 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: And she already had access to two customers who were 284 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: willing to speak, as well as numerous viral videos. So 285 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: those videos had great grabs in them, So if Daniel 286 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: and Georgia refused to speak or give some sort of statement, 287 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: their voice was going to be absent from the story 288 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: and they wouldn't have been able to provide any context 289 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: or give any excuses for the delays. I agree with you, Sophie, 290 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: because this is the advice, as you said, that we 291 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: give our clients. Sometimes it's better to actually have a 292 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: voice in a story. You don't want to be that 293 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: person that's being chased by the Current Affairs cameras they 294 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: were dodgy, they would have rocked up anyway to try 295 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: and get them on camera. Look, I don't disagree with 296 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: that strategy, but I think that they probably should have 297 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: been better briefed by a media advisor of what to say. Well, 298 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, because the interview, I actually think that 299 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: they hit some pretty good key points. So they outlined 300 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: that the delays were due to a big backlog of 301 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: orders from the Black Friday sales, and they were able 302 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: to drop a lot of stats showing just how successful 303 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: their brand had been. Let's throw to George's apology that 304 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: she also handed out. 305 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: No, we are obviously very sorry with the fact that 306 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: it has taken us longer than normal to get the 307 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: orders out, and we understand that during Christmas emotions are higher. 308 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: You know, it is very stressful for a lot of people. 309 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: We are doing everything we can to get them ount 310 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: as quick as possible. 311 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that this is a new thing for 312 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: White Fox Boutique. I mean last year we were talking 313 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: about how Sarah's Day's Christmas pajamas were not arriving on time. 314 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: I understand that they have grown massively, but I don't 315 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: think it's a good enough excuse. I mean, you're taking 316 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: the cash, but you're not fulfilling the orders. It's becoming 317 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: a really bad look for them because it seems like 318 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: every time they have a big sale, the same thing happened, 319 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: and the communication has always been really bad on their end, 320 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: because on the website it claimed that over the Christmas period, 321 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: express shipping orders would take four business days and standardshipping 322 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: would be up to fourteen business date. However, some customers 323 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: had made their Christmas orders in November, hoping to give 324 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: White Fox items as gifts and still not receive them. 325 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems like that maybe they were 326 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: selling items that weren't even in the country at the time, well, 327 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: they claimed that they were. They did address that in 328 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: the interview. They said that they do have the stock there. 329 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: It just seemed to be a labor issue and they 330 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: really did try and spook White Fox during this interview. 331 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: So in the interview, Daniel said, going into the sales, 332 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: they predicted they'd have two to three times growth from 333 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: last year, when in reality they had four times the 334 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: amount of growth. I wonder, in a weird way, if 335 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: this somehow makes the clothes even more popular with teenagers 336 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: because they're so tough to get your hands on that 337 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: they see more desirable. I think it cheapens the brand 338 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: almost because it's like, look, how many people have bought this? 339 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean the amount of teenagers I have seen rocking 340 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: White Fox hood. But doesn't make you want it more. 341 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: It's that psychology. You can't get it, so if you 342 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: finally do manage to get it, it's like wow. See. 343 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a really bad look for the brand 344 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: because they have been very clever in their marketing tactics. 345 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: They have always harnessed the use of influencers. But while 346 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: all this shit storm is going on and they're paying customers, 347 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: aren't receiving their goods on time. They are express shipping 348 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: influencer packages to influencers who are then spooking White Fox 349 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: talking it up. But I have seen a shift of 350 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: other influencers who obviously don't work with White Fox saying 351 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: actually so. For instance, back Lomez was like, well, I've 352 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: heard a lot about White Fox Boutique being shit. Actually, Meski, 353 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: they got me this New Year's Eve dressed straight away. 354 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: I think that this is going to impact White Fox's 355 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: sales quite a lot. We did get a question on 356 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: our Instagram whether we think more influencers will move away 357 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: from promoting White Fox Boutique. I'm conflicted because I think 358 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: that money talks, and obviously White Fox Boutique has a 359 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: huge budget to spend on influencers. If I was an influencer, 360 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: I would be trying to distance myself momentarily from the 361 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: brand because if you have followers who have potentially purchased 362 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: the items and they yet to receive them, but yet 363 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: they see you wearing it, that is going to generate 364 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: a lot of resentment your way, even though it's not 365 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: your fault. Yeah, but these influences are probably long standing 366 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: ambassadors of the brand that have to actually post about 367 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: the packages that they received. It doesn't mean the follower 368 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: cares about that. I feel like it wasn't a great 369 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: idea for them to let a Current Affair film in 370 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: their warehouse, because there was a lot of commentary about 371 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: how unprofessional it all looked to the Seeds. Well, they 372 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: claim that they have over two hundred people working there 373 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: seven days a week to get the orders out, and 374 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: the owner said that they were even in there on 375 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: the frontline packing orders. So of course a Current Affair 376 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: had vision of Georgia in full hair and makeup packing stuff. 377 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: But the general consensus was that there were a ton 378 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: of racks in there, but not many people. And in 379 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: another photo uploaded by White Fox, it showed workers very 380 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: casually dressed sort of fighting around in cubicle booths, not 381 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: looking like they were doing much. It's not exactly how 382 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: you would imagine a very bustly professional warehouse to look. Again, 383 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: that's on their media management team, because you would think 384 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: if you had this opportunity to try and turn the 385 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: narrative around that you would say we need everyone in, 386 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: we need them all in uniform, we need everyone looking busy. 387 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: One thing that the Current affair Journal did really well 388 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: was juxtaposition Georgia and Daniel's immense wealth alongside a mum 389 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: who had to borrow money to purchase her daughter a 390 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: Christmas present because the one that she ordered from White 391 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: Fox never came through. It was a really clever and 392 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: emotive way to bring it across. It was such a 393 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: good interview that she got. I think the Contossa's wealth 394 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: has a lot to do with why people are so 395 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: pissed off, particularly because it's just recently come out that 396 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: White Fox held this extremely lavish Christmas party for its workers. 397 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: So while customers were still waiting for their orders to arrive, 398 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: the White Fox staff was celebrating a successful year with 399 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: caviat and a free holiday. But it also contradicts the 400 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: messaging that the owners were putting out. We've got staff working, 401 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, twenty four hours a day, seven days a 402 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: week at a Christmas world. The party was held at 403 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: Georgia and Daniel's epic mansion, and Daniel's sister, Sarah Kontos, 404 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: who does work in the creative content side of things, 405 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: she started sharing some photos of this exclusive event, and 406 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: in the photos, workers were seen doing those caviar shots 407 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. It always makes me laugh when I 408 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: see people with the caviar on their handles that they've 409 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: been shat on. Yeah, it's not a caviar shot. It's 410 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: just they're licking the caviar with it's known as a 411 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: caviar shot. Okay, they haven't been doing many caviar shots. 412 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, and then it was so awkward because they'd 413 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: printed out special White Fox boutique boarding passes, so all 414 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: of the workers were gifted a free holiday. I mean, 415 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: it's a better look than Woolworst who gave their employees 416 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: a drink bottle. But again, it's not great messaging. I 417 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: do want to touch on your point, Kate, about how 418 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: people seem to have a negative view towards Georgia and 419 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: Daniel because of their immense wealth. I don't understand why 420 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: that is, because they are self made millionaires, and I 421 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: think that people should be allowed to be successful. Yeah, 422 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: but customers are pissed off because they're giving them their 423 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: money thinking that they're going to get goods and they're 424 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: not getting them on time. I agree with Kate. I 425 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: can see why people are pissed off and they feel 426 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: a bit angry about their wealth. Because this is a 427 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 1: fast fashion brand and they're not flaunting it as well. 428 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what they do with the Christmas pot exactly, 429 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: and they've had and this is off the back of 430 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: that huge wedding that they had as well, and it 431 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: makes you think, well, their profits are obviously huge, but 432 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: they're not putting that money into getting adequate staff in 433 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: order to actually get the clothes out there to the 434 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: customers who've been promised that they're going to be here 435 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: by Christmas time. I totally get that, but I also 436 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: think that Australia has an issue with tall poppy syndrome. 437 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yeah, I woul probably have more of 438 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: an issue with these two if they came from family wealth, 439 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: to be honest, But the fact that they started a 440 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: business and were really clever with the marketing and strategy 441 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: behind how they were going to get that out. They 442 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: were one of the first brands ten years ago to 443 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: really get in that niche of influences. No one is 444 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: questioning the success of White Fox boutique. People are questioning 445 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: that they can't keep up with the growth, and it's 446 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: not to all. I think it's more so Australians don't 447 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: like having people's wealth rubbed in their face, especially when 448 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: we're going through a cost of living crisis and you're 449 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: not fulfilling the orders. Yeah, I share you miss you 450 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: do you know? Uh? Before we get into this next topic, 451 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: I just want to issue a trigger warning. If there 452 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: are little ears around, maybe put your headphones in, because 453 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: we are discussing the magical world of Santa. Steph Classmith's 454 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve Santa Prep has gone viral, and for the 455 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: wrong reason. The Finness entrepreneurshiped a TikTok of her and 456 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: her husband Josh Miller creating Santa footprints with flour and 457 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: drinking milk left out for Father Christmas. They even showed 458 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: themselves gnawing on carrots for the Reindeers, all in a 459 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: bid to surprise their toddler, Harvey. On Christmas morning, Steph 460 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: shared that she had been looking forward to this moment 461 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: for so long she captured the video. I can't tell 462 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: you how much joy this brought us. Now. The reason 463 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: this video went so viral is the comments section, because 464 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: it was flooded with young children who were devastated that 465 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: Steph and Josh had ruined the magic of Father Christmas. 466 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: There was a lot of confusion in the comments. A 467 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: lot of people were like, hang on, I didn't know 468 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: that your parents did that. I want to raise something 469 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: that I have noticed over the festive period. When have 470 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: these flower footprints been a thing? Oh? Yes, that was 471 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: never a thing in our household. But I have seen 472 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: so many people doing the flower footprints. Don't kids con on? 473 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: Is it meant to be snow? Is that what it is? 474 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: The kids too like, he's not going to know. Okay. 475 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: So I watched Anastaga King's North Christmas Day yesterday with 476 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: my past and we were very confused because her nine 477 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: year old brother bought in to the footprints and you 478 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: could literally see the visible template. They have got the 479 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: square bit of the template. I can't like it. I 480 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: think it's nice. I had an issue with Steph and 481 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: Josh's template because it didn't look like shoes. No, they 482 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: obviously had made it themselves and the feet were absolutely tiny. 483 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: A lot of people were actually commenting that They're like, 484 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: could you have made any worse looking shoes? I'm all 485 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: for people really getting into the magic of Father Christmas 486 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: and making it really believable and real for their kids. 487 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: I love that they put all of that effort in, 488 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: But I think that this video was really damaging to 489 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: poor kids. I mean I love the parents or the 490 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: adults in the comments section who were trying to convince 491 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: the kids who were looking at the video that it 492 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: was fake. They're like, just say, the kids know these 493 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: people are crazy trying to imitate Center and don't let 494 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: them get away with this. And so many people were 495 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: liking it. But the other thing is you meant to 496 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: be over thirteen to be on TikTok? Should these kids 497 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: be on there? Yeah? Why is it up to the 498 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: content creators to police it? Like, surely people's parents shouldn't 499 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: be letting someone under thirteen on TikTok. There were cases though, 500 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: of parents actually watching the videos next to their children 501 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: and them kind of cottoning on. And I did see 502 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: Kayla at Sena share something similar that happened to her 503 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: on TikTok. So she was on TikTok around her kids 504 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: and she flipped on a Hayley Beeber video and the 505 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: first line of the video was I found out Santa 506 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: Claus wasn't real when And she's like, oh my goodness, 507 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: could there be some sort of warning, like do you 508 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: have to put this at the start of the video. 509 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of like with the whole Elf on the 510 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: shelf thing. Because this year, I know that my Instagram 511 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: has been full of parents, I know, sharing the behind 512 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: the scenes of the little scenes that they set up 513 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: for the kids, and there is always the worry that 514 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: somehow a kid will stumble on their parents' page. That's 515 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: why I'm so confused. Why a child like Atticus, who 516 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: is Anasata kings North's brother, a UK influencer, how is 517 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: he still playing along like he's actually only nine? He's 518 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: a big kid, Like we had to google it because like, 519 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: this kid's twelve, surely he knows by but he's all 520 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: over YouTube. You think these kids have so much information 521 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: at their fingertips. I think it's still lovely that he believes. 522 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: Is there a family that lost their Christmas tree in 523 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: the storms this year? 524 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't really know if Ashy Biens is trolling us, 525 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: because on Year's Day she uploaded a video offering up 526 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: her very manky looking Christmas tree to Gold Coast flood victims. 527 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: Now need to introject sovi because that is your personal opinion. 528 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: I feel like manky it sounds quite harsh, but we 529 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: are Christmas tree snobs. A couple of years ago you 530 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: and I invested in Balista Hill Christmas trees and we 531 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: have not looked back. They are a very expensive tree, 532 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: so I think every tree looks shit in comparison. But 533 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: you don't just need an expensive tree for it to 534 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: look good. This tree, in particular, I'm not really vibing 535 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: the Christmas decorations on it. I don't think that this 536 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: was just my personal opinion. I think that this is 537 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: the opinion of the majority of people who follow Ashy Binds. 538 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: I need to paint a picture of this tree for 539 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: people who haven't seen it. It looks like a skinny 540 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: toilet brush and it's got this bushy, thick tinsel thrown 541 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: all over it. The star has even looked like it's 542 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: had enough because it's falling off the tree in this video. 543 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: It's a bit harsh. She does have kids, so I'm 544 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: assuming the kids have decorated the Christmas tree. Someone with 545 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: no taste has decorated this tree. It has seen better days, 546 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: and I cannot believe that this post was not satire. 547 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: Let's throw to what Ashy said. 548 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 3: Is there a family that lost their Christmas tree in 549 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 3: the storms this year. If so, I would love to 550 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: gift you ours. I mean wanting to get a new 551 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: Christmas tree with like snow white tips for many years, 552 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: and every year I'm like, oh, didn't get it. 553 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: That's all good. 554 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: But if anyone knows of anyone that lost us Christmas tree, 555 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: I would love to donate this. So just send me 556 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: a DM. 557 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: There is just so much to unpack here. The first 558 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: thing that springs to mind is I am offended on 559 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: behalf of the flood victims because they don't want any 560 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: old trash donated to them. This isn't an opportunity to 561 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: dump your old tree that you should be taking to 562 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: the dump. This just sounds like she's trying to get 563 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: out of ordering a hard rubbish collection or something. I'm sorry, 564 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: I feel like you guys have been really mean because 565 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: I think you know, is it that Ashy has thought, Oh, 566 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of flood victims out there, they've lost 567 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: so much. If I can do one smaller all this 568 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: makes no sense after Christmas? Okay. If this was like 569 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: a couple of days before and they wanted a tree 570 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: for their kids, this is on New Year Day, this 571 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: would be the last thing that they were thinking. It's 572 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: kind of like I'm ready to pack this down to 573 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: someone and just want to take someone come and pick 574 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: it up. To be honest, I'd rather not have a 575 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: tree than that one. Yeah, me too. I saw a 576 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: lot of listeners because Sophie you shared something on the 577 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: Outspoken Instagram account about this, and a lot of listeners 578 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: were saying, she's obviously trying to fish around for a 579 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: Balsom Hill sponsorship deal, as if she can't afford one herself. 580 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: This is the other thing I don't understand. If you 581 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: were genuinely trying to look like you're doing a good 582 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: deed and the right thing, I would have properly cut 583 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: out of that Instagram story. The fact that I want 584 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: a snowy tree anyway, That's all she had to exclude 585 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: from it. It's not like, oh, this is my beloved 586 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: tree that I'm happy to give up to help someone else. 587 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: It's literally, here's my old piece of crap tree that 588 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: I want to get the fuck out of here because 589 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: it's New Year's and I can't stand the side of it. 590 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: And it's quite funny. Don't we all feel like that 591 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: at Christmas time? Even when you have a nice tree. 592 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I need to get this down. It's quite 593 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: funny because a few people did write in saying that 594 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: as she has been trolled over the appearance of this 595 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: tree every year for quite some time. So it's not 596 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: like it's this desirable item that you want to receive. 597 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: Do you think some fan girls would really want it? Though? 598 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: They're like, this is the disappointing tree that ash Binds 599 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: has had up for five years. It's now in my home. 600 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: The other thing I don't understand is why do they 601 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: need a Christmas tree now? I think that they would 602 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: probably want cash. You've been so passionate about this topic, Sophie. 603 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: I feel like there's going to be a lot of 604 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: influencers who might be listening and they're absolutely shaking in 605 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: their boats because you have put ashy Bines on blast. 606 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: Is this something we're going to see in Outspoken for 607 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four? I think we will see a bit 608 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: more of it this year. I'm just so passionate about 609 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: Christmas and I find that this tree is incredibly offensive. 610 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: See Sophik said that I was grumpy from pregnancy hormones. 611 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: What the hell is your. 612 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 3: Get ready with me? 613 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: For dinner, Tammy Hembro is trying to convince her followers 614 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: what perfect matches she and her new fiance Matsukoski are so. 615 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: On Christmas, she shared that they both got each other 616 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: similar presents, which they had always wanted. So Matt got 617 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: Tammy a trip to Japan and a photo album of 618 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: their Maldives trip, while Matt got Tammy a great white 619 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: cage diving trip and an empty photo album and a camera. 620 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: Tammy wrote on the post are we actual twins? Matt crying? 621 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: I did have a bit of a laugh about this 622 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: because I don't necessarily think that this means that they're 623 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: so in tune with each other and they're on the 624 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: same page. I think it just means that they're both 625 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: wealthy people who want to go on holidays, and who 626 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: doesn't like a holiday. I mean, I wouldn't mind a 627 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: trip Japan. I think that's a pretty good present now. 628 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: Tammy did host Christmas Day at her house, which looked epic. 629 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 1: She is a great host. That's Christmas spread looked very positive. 630 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: I thought that she'd had someone come in to professionally 631 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: decorate and cook, but it looks like she actually did 632 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Okay, you've just thrown in a very 633 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: tall word POSTI there, I know, I realized, Yeah, listeners 634 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: will not know what that means. That's a word we've created, 635 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: which means very fancy posh. I keep dropping it in 636 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: conversation too, and then people give me a blank look, 637 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, we made that up. Listeners probably 638 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: just think it's another word that we're apparently mis or 639 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: an Adelaide thing. Now, Tammy did share a picture of 640 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: her and Matt with the caption first Christmas of forever 641 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: with you Now again, every time she posts with Matt, 642 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: it attracts a lot of troll comments. So one person 643 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: wrote forever means a year or two in this love language, 644 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: which had over one thousand likes. Now Tammy did respond, writing, Okay, 645 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: I've never claimed to be perfect or no the perfect path, 646 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: but I've never been so sure in my life, So Kylie, 647 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: shut the fuck up, and that comment received four thousand miles. 648 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: I do love her response, but I think that she 649 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: is opening herself up for trolls writing comments like that. 650 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: If I was someone like Tammy Hembro and I had 651 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: all these millions of followers, I think I just turned 652 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: comments off. I guess she still wants the engagement on 653 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: her post responsorship deals now. Tammy also held a very 654 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: lavish New Year's Eve party, and as soon as she 655 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: started posting photos about it, it attracted a lot of 656 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: attention because a lot of her followers thought that this 657 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: might be a surprise wedding. Now. The reason why is 658 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: because everyone was so dressed up. They were all in 659 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: very long sequin gown and there was a violinist there 660 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: as well as a table that someone spired they thought 661 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: it was some sort of signing table. This would be 662 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: very on brand for Tammy and Matt. I'm kind of 663 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: disappointed it didn't happen. I would have loved to see 664 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 1: the back line. So I thought it would have been 665 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: a huge fuck you because everyone's been saying, yeah, this 666 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: wedding's not going to happen, and I feel like they 667 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: would have been like, yeah, fuck you, We've got married 668 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: before the end of the year. Is it really a 669 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: fuck you? Though? When you've only sort of been dating 670 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: for a period of time, Like no, I think it 671 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: shows that they're serious. I mean, Tammy did clear it 672 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 1: up and say that even some of her friends were like, 673 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: is this a surprise wedding, but it wasn't. I was 674 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: surprised to see Lily Brown at the party. I guess 675 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: it does make sense because Tammy and m Davey's a friend, 676 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: so that's a mutual friend there. But I was like, 677 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know they were closed. Look, they're all Gold 678 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: Coast influencers. They all socialized in the same circles. This 679 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: is a whole of everything I got for Christmas. 680 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: This Yet, my family's actually going on a trip to 681 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: Europe for Christmas, which is kind of annoying, but yeah, 682 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: that's why I got all my Christmas presents early, so 683 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: I was a low key Christmas this yet. 684 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: So since Boxing Day, I have been become obsessed with 685 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: the what I got for Christmas tiktoks. They are literally 686 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: all over my feed and they are so popular at 687 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: the moment that the hashtag has over five hundred and 688 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: twenty seven million views on TikTok and I think a 689 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: lot of other people are obsessed with them because literally 690 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: all the comments are I want to stay on Christmas 691 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: Hall TikTok? Is this following the trend that you spoke 692 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: about a few weeks ago where the kids were doing 693 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: PowerPoint presentations if exactly what they wanted to their parents. 694 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: It is, but it's kind of more filthy rich teenagers 695 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: sharing what they got for Christmas. And I thought a 696 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: lot of people would be pissed off about this. With 697 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: the cost of living crisis, I thought people would be 698 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: getting the nickers in or not, but it's a complete opposite. 699 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: The majority of people are fucking loving it because it 700 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: is a perfey look into how the rich live, and 701 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: people are like, I want more of this. And the 702 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: best bit is it seems like all the rich kids' parents, 703 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: or probably the rich kids who are doing the PowerPoint presentations, 704 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: they all know what is cool. So one of the 705 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: girls was like, last year, I had no idea what 706 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: a dice and air rap was until these videos were 707 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: all out. And this year the it presence for the 708 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: rich kids were a Van cleeff bracelet, Lulu Lemon, I 709 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: mean as much Lululemon as you could possibly imagine, Stanley Cups, 710 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: AirPod Maxes, and drunk Elephant skincare. And the funniest thing 711 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: is all these like tweens are wanting this drunk elephant 712 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: stuff like I saw one and it was because people 713 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: are now putting out their more realistic Christmas hole and 714 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: they're enjoyable. And there was this one parent who shared 715 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: when they got their like ten year old daughter some 716 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: of the it products from TikTok. She was literally balling 717 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: her eyes out of the Stanley cup. It was just like, 718 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: this is a drink bottle. I have never understood why 719 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: children need skin care. I understand for pimples and acne, 720 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: but when it's an anti aging sort of moisturized what 721 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: do they need that for. It's just because it's all 722 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: over TikTok and all the influence. Yeah, it's just the 723 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: fucking ridiculous. I've been loving the payouts of the video 724 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: holes that yeah, the parodies. There was one girl She's like, yeah, 725 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: I got seven pairs of Lulu Lemon tights and I 726 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: also got a six thousand dollar puppy that's been flown over. 727 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: Or did you go for Christmas? David? 728 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: I've got some chickens. 729 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 3: You got some chickens. Popcrawl. 730 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: There's a massive cock in there as well. Posh and 731 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: Beck's daughter in law, Nicola Peltz Beckham, shared an insight 732 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: into how the Beckham spent Christmas Day on TikTok. And 733 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: I have been watching this video on repeat. So what 734 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: we have learned is that Beckham spent most of Christmas 735 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: Day in their very chic simple pajamas with the nicest 736 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: quality Christmas hats I haven't ever seen. I swear they 737 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: stole them from Santa himself. They're so nice. I'd love 738 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: to know where they got them now. Bex was on 739 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: Christmas cooking duty along with his son Brooklyn, who he 740 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: was trying to dabble in being a chef, and it 741 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: looked very happy families. Because there are a lot of 742 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: rumors that Nicolt does not get along with her in laws, 743 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: but this has completely squashed that. Posh gave Beck's chickens 744 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: and a big cock, she said for Christmas. I don't 745 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: know if he saw that. Have you noticed that she 746 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: has been first trapping all of her followers with so 747 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: many videos and photos of how hot David Beckham is 748 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: and I think that as a follow of hers, I 749 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: have greatly appreciated the post. There was one picture where 750 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: David was just in his underpants and he was fixing 751 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: the TV. Yeah, and I think You've got something like 752 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: seven million lines within ten minutes. There was also one 753 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: where he was doing a workout. He was just basically 754 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: thrusting against the floor. I actually haven't seen any of 755 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: this content, which does surprise me because it's quite embarrassing. 756 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: I know people don't like hearing about other people's dreams, 757 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: but I actually did have a dream this week that 758 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: I was married to David Becker. I know you told 759 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: me that you that you woke up and you're like, fuck, 760 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: better go back to sleep now. David wasn't thrusting in 761 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: the video that Nikola shared, but he was vacuuming near 762 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: the Christmas tree and his son was helping him. The 763 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: best bit of this video was Posh taking out the bins. 764 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: Let's throw to what she said. I bet that Jennifer 765 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: Lopez doesn't do big Jennifer, but I bet she doesn't 766 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: do big? Does she? 767 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 3: Sure she doesn't do ben? 768 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: I feel like Nikola is trying to make this go viral, 769 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: Like the comment about the Bentley went viral, it was 770 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: just as funny. Well, she has released those T shirts, 771 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: which I think are two hundred dollars a pop, saying 772 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: my dad drove a Bentley. So I wouldn't be surprised 773 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: if they're trying to get their own reality show as well, 774 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: is this the next catchphrase. They're pretty clever though, because 775 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: they're showing, look we are extremely wealthy, look at our 776 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: Christmas hats. But also we're like you, we've got to 777 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: take the bins out, beautiful custom doulce, excuse me. Kim 778 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: Kardashian has proven once again why she's the Queen of Christmas. 779 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: After her epic, much hyped Christmas Eve party, Kim's sixty 780 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: million dollar Calabasas mansion was transformed into a winter wonderland 781 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: with fake snow, a life sized gingerbread house, star studded performances, 782 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: and a blatant but undisclosed sponsorship deal with Coca Cola. 783 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: I did notice that because my normal Boxing Day tradition 784 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: is looking at the Kardashian's Christmas Eve party and getting 785 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: to press that Christmas is over, and I'm like, it 786 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: seems to me a lot of Coca Cola there at 787 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: this part. Yeah, because the drinks they were even emblazoned 788 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: with Kardashian Jenna Christmas Eve Party twenty twenty three on them. 789 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you notice, but every single 790 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: one of the Jenna's and Kardashians they had the same 791 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: video where they walked in, they showed off the coke bar, 792 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: which had coke and spry everywhere, and I thought, this 793 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: isn't them just being into coke, this is them Coca Cola. Yeah. Well, 794 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: so it's funny you say that, Sophie, because there was 795 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: a headline that TMZ ran and it said Kim Kardashian 796 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: come to my Exmas party with coke, snow and gingerbread, 797 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, that could be taken the wrong way. 798 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: I think it is a clever collaboration though, because lots 799 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: of us obviously know that Coca Cola really did sort 800 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: of partake in the commercialization of Santa Claus his red outfit. 801 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: It really is on theme for a Christmas party, and 802 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure that they were paid an absolute fucked tunnel. 803 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: I've also had a lot of bad press with all 804 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,479 Speaker 1: of the coverage around a Spartan which is in diet 805 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: Coke being Carstner Jenny. So it probably is a good move. 806 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: And I don't think the Kardashians have ever had a 807 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: sponsor for a Christmas Eve party. I mean, I'm assuming 808 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: this is the work of Chris Jenner herself. Well, I 809 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: can see why they need it because they're getting just 810 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. I do love the photo shoots that 811 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: go on before the party. So everyone was talking about 812 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: Kims because she had all their kids in it, and 813 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: I really feel for North because everyone was just saying, 814 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, Chicago was so gorgeous. She looks like 815 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: a model, and they were saying that she stole the show. 816 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: And I'm like feeling a bit odd about commenting on 817 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: a little kid. Did you see that photographer? Though, I 818 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 1: feel like he was the hardest working person at that party. 819 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: He was running around with this soft box to take 820 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: the most beautiful photos. It kind of reminded me of 821 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: when I was taking photos at our white party. Now 822 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: Amy people might know what a soft box is. It's 823 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: attached to a flash, so it gives the most beautiful 824 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: soft lighting on a field space. They would be demanding that, like, 825 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: these pictures better look fucking every They would have been 826 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: edited to an inch of their life as well. One 827 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: of our listeners commented, because I shared a reel of 828 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: this guy just saying, you know, every one needs a 829 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: friend like this to take photos of them. The Kardashian 830 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: photographer and a listener said that he actually broke some 831 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: of his camera gear because you can see him slip 832 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: over on Kim's fake snow. Oh. I was wondering because 833 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: I have been watching Courtney mangan over in Aspen. I'm 834 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: loving her updates. And then I was like, hang on, 835 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: She's gone to California and it's not as cold. I'm like, 836 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: hang on, is that all fakes not kids? It looks 837 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: so real. Yeah, it's sunny and calabasas. So she would 838 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: have spent I'm guessing hundreds of thousands of dollars to 839 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: get her backyard like that. So if listeners haven't seen it, 840 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: she transformed her backyard into this winter wonderland. There was 841 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: fake trees, fake snow. She even had so much snow 842 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: on this hill that they were able to do to 843 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: bogganing down it. It was crazy. That is where we 844 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: are going to leave it today. I know a lot 845 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: of listeners will be thinking, hold in a second, you 846 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: have forgot to tell us about that awkward altercation before 847 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 1: Christmas at dinner with an influencer that you ran into. 848 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: Sorry to clickbait this further, but we will be discussing 849 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 1: it on Friday Show. We think it deserves its own 850 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: little segment on Friday show. Wow, you've just pissed off 851 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people there, so and just a reminder 852 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: that we are back to normal scheduling. So on Friday 853 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: we will be dropping our free Influencer episode and we 854 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 1: do hope you have enjoyed our episode today. I've thoroughly 855 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: enjoyed recording. There's been so much news to talk about it. 856 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: There has been so much to catch up on now. 857 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the 858 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to 859 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: elders past and present,