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Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Kira Maguire charged for that

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Speaker 1: drink throwing incident, Kayla It's Seen Us calls out the

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Speaker 1: media for body shaming, and Olivia Rodgers slam for supposedly

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Speaker 1: wearing it too much makeup in Balley. Hello and welcome

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Speaker 1: to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer and

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Speaker 1: pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie Touba and Amy.

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Speaker 1: Whilst Kate was away, we decided to create our own

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Speaker 1: McDonald's tack, which has caused a bit of a stir online.

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Speaker 1: So for those who haven't seen it, we called it

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Speaker 1: the hash brown ice cream Oreo Sandwich. And maybe that's

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Speaker 1: where we went wrong because it's not really a name

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Speaker 1: that rolls off the door. It wasn't really that inventive

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Speaker 1: because you've literally taken the viral TikTok trend and slapped

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Speaker 1: bread around it. Soph you said it created a stir.

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Speaker 1: Everyone seemed really disgusted by it. Well to put it

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Speaker 1: out there. So it was a steamed bun with a

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Speaker 1: hash brown ice cream and Oreos on top. And it

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Speaker 1: was a bit of a fail because we were driving

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Speaker 1: around trying to find a spot to film, and the

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Speaker 1: ice cream subsequently had melted in the car and we

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Speaker 1: had a whole string of it in a handy fantastic

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Speaker 1: I think that's what grossed me. I mean we were thinking, oh,

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Speaker 1: maybe this will go off because everyone want to recreate

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Speaker 1: it or do it.

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Speaker 2: But we seem to gross everyone out.

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Speaker 1: So there were all these comments, people being like, are

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Speaker 1: you insane? And everyone's like, I can't get behind it.

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Speaker 1: It's too messy to be fair. I think those comments

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Speaker 1: were warranted, but that's what made it get picked up

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Speaker 1: by the Daily Mail. To Sophie's heart, I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: They covered this story in a very slow news day.

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Speaker 1: The headline was even more unbelievable, so it said influencers

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Speaker 1: sisters make their followers sick after sharing bizarre MacDonald's food

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Speaker 1: hack for bizarre burger made out of hash Brown's ice

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Speaker 1: cream and oreos. The first inaccuracy is that we are,

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Speaker 1: of course not influencers. I was quite offended by that term.

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Speaker 1: We are journalists and podcasters. I mean, I can see

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Speaker 1: how it's confusing because we were trying to create a

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Speaker 1: social media food hack. The second one is as a journalist,

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Speaker 1: why would you ever use the word bizarre twice in

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Speaker 1: a headline. This is my pet peeve because we'll have

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Speaker 1: big arguments while we're recording the podcast if someone doubles

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Speaker 1: up saying a particular word in the same sentence. Now,

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Speaker 1: what also was quite a burn was the description of

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Speaker 1: our clothes, because I feel like the Daily Mail is

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Speaker 1: known for always being very descriptive and saying everything that

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Speaker 1: someone's wearing. So I had actually said earlier in the day, Look,

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Speaker 1: we need to start dressing up a bit more when

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Speaker 1: we're on camera. But I thought it was okay because

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Speaker 1: I thought, well, you gotta look a bit stupid if

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Speaker 1: you're sitting there in corporate clothes eating some sort of

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Speaker 1: McDonald's hack. Anyway, in this description, they said the video

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Speaker 1: shows the two sisters in a parked car together, dressed

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Speaker 1: in casual clothing worthy of a late night Macas run,

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Speaker 1: with Amy in a green T shirt and Sophie in

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Speaker 1: a New York Knicks jump. Little do they know that's

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Speaker 1: just what we wear every day, not just for every

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Speaker 1: his run. The funniest thing is I vividly remember when

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Speaker 1: we were leaving you were like, oh, is this jumper

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Speaker 1: too bummy to wear? And I'm like, nah, it's fine, No,

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Speaker 1: one won't even care, and then it gets mentioned in

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Speaker 1: the Daily. I think the green T shirt was the

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Speaker 1: funniest bit because it's like it was so obvious. It

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Speaker 1: was like not branded or anything Green tea show it

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Speaker 2: Well it was eleven. Oh, it was so.

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Speaker 1: Bad because you rang me horrified. Amy, we were on

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Speaker 1: the way to get desert with our friend.

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Speaker 2: You're like, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Mails picked up on this story and You're

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Speaker 1: not gonna like some of these screenshots.

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Speaker 2: And I couldn't even because I was in the car.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even look.

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Speaker 1: I was more stressed, not because I was in the article,

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Speaker 1: but because of your reaction, because you guys, when you

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Speaker 1: got proposed to on Christmas Eve on the same day

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Speaker 1: it was covered and the comments were just horrible.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's quite.

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Speaker 1: Possibly the worst photo I think I've ever seen of myself,

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Speaker 1: directing more people that I had a mouthful of burger

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Speaker 1: and I was looking at Amy. I looked so disgusting.

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Speaker 2: I sent it to my partner.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I have to read out some of

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Speaker 2: I'm always complaining to him about.

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Speaker 1: He was so supportive in those messages. It was like instantaneous,

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Speaker 1: like you're beautiful, and listeners will know Sophie is the

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Speaker 1: most oversensitive one of all of us. So I think

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Speaker 1: my mind also went to, oh, I don't really care,

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Speaker 1: but fuck, Sophie's gonna have an issue, that is. So

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Speaker 1: I pulled up the messages. I sent him the screen shot,

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Speaker 1: the ugly screenshot, and I said, this screenshot is fucking criminal,

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Speaker 2: And then he's like, darling, don't worry about it. You're gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: And then I said that screenshot is just fucking cruel.

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Speaker 1: And then he said who wrote.

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Speaker 2: It and why?

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Speaker 1: And I said, somewhere from the Daily Mail. This is

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Speaker 1: quite possibly the worst butto I've ever seen in myself.

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Speaker 1: How is that a story? And he's like, it's just

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Speaker 1: a clickbait, bullshit article. You are gorgeous and you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: You're eating.

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Speaker 1: That's the only reason your face is moving like that, Darling.

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Speaker 1: You're putting things into a public realm. You have a

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Speaker 1: media that follows your account. That is the only reason

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Speaker 1: they've done it. No one reads it, so don't worry.

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Speaker 1: And they said thanks darling, it doesn't matter, just annoying

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Speaker 1: crying face.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your can't comments.

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Speaker 1: He is so well trained. I suppose it's taken seven

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Speaker 1: years to be patient though. Does he have those messages

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Speaker 1: saved in his note so you can just copy and

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Speaker 1: paste and change a few words every time you go off?

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Speaker 2: He writes some quick so maybe he does. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we need to come up with a

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Speaker 1: new McDonald's tack now Kate's back, something a bit more adventures.

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Speaker 1: I can come up with something better, because really, you

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Speaker 1: just copied the other one. Now you're being all fucking

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Speaker 1: up and about now, OK, but as if you're right

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Speaker 1: about everything, but I loved it over the weekend, you've.

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Speaker 2: Actually been proven wrong.

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Speaker 1: And this says over the Georgia Richards Starbucks debarcle that

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Speaker 1: we covered the last week going on, so we covered

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Speaker 1: it whilst you're away for those who aren't across it. Basically,

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Speaker 1: on her Instagram, she shared that she had a two

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Speaker 2: Was shouting them a coffee.

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Speaker 1: We did a segment saying, wow, it's actually so nice

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Speaker 2: You called bullshit on it, you said Whilst You're Away.

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Speaker 1: And Balley that we didn't scratch the surface enough and

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Speaker 1: that this clearly was a paid percast. A lot of

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Speaker 1: influencers have been doing it. And then Georgia Richard shared

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Speaker 1: an ad with Starbucks and I was like, well, this

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Speaker 1: is proof that she didn't pay for the Starbucks give

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Speaker 2: However, her PR team have messaged us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so her manager has reached out saying Hi guys,

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Speaker 2: Just wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Shoot through a message to clarify Georgia Richard's Starbucks ad.

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Speaker 1: The gift card was completely separate to the ad she did.

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Speaker 1: It was completely purchased with her own money as a

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Speaker 1: Just thought i'd clarify.

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Speaker 2: Look, thank you very much. I was thrilled when this

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Speaker 2: message comes over. I think it's very nice of Georgia.

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Speaker 1: But do I think that there were intentions involved because

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Speaker 1: she ended up getting a Starbucks even happened to us.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes if you share about how much you love something,

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Speaker 1: that brand then reaches out.

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Speaker 2: For instance, we always shared that we're.

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Speaker 1: At Betty's Burgers and Betty's Burgers reached out and said, oh,

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Speaker 1: do you want to come.

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Speaker 2: In for a meal.

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Speaker 1: It does happen, Okay, I think that you owe both

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Speaker 1: Georgia and Sophie and apology.

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Speaker 2: I think so too.

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Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable doing that well, to be fair, After

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Speaker 1: saying that quite a number of micro influencers do it

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Speaker 2: So I stand by my original segment idea that it's

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm not saying she isn't lovely for paying for

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Speaker 2: Worth of Starbucks for her followers.

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Speaker 1: That's great, but she does benefit from it aka the

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Speaker 1: Starbucks deal that she got Afterwards. I want to know

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Speaker 1: if the Starbucks deal was signed or after we give a.

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Speaker 2: PR team yahd ask them.

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Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for McDonald's to now reach out to

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Speaker 1: us about our oreo hash brown soundwich. Yeah maybe not

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Speaker 1: because it's so disgusting. Pope have to come up with

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Speaker 3: Cheer Rah, Can I steal your way for a check?

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Speaker 3: Can't fly?

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Speaker 1: I like cant mhn. Former Bachelor contestant Kira Maguire has

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Speaker 1: been charged with recklessly causing injury after allegedly throwing her

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Speaker 1: Osbourne Rooftop and Bar. The court hearing was held late

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Speaker 1: last week, with Kira choosing not to appear in person

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Speaker 1: I was interested to see which lawyer she had, and

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Speaker 1: called Zara god Will, and they have previously represented some

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Speaker 1: of Australia's most widely reported criminal law cases during the

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Speaker 1: height of Melbourne's gang Wars. An interesting person to align

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Speaker 1: yourself with. It's an interesting decision to want to align

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Speaker 1: your drink throwing incident with the gang wars. The lawyer

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Speaker 1: Kira's lawyer told the court that the glass thrown by

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Speaker 1: Kira did not break and the victim was only left

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Speaker 1: with small scratches. The lawyer also said it was a

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Speaker 1: have walked away. She's extremely embarrassed and this is entirely

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Speaker 1: out of character for her. While it may personally be

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Speaker 1: is kind of behavior you would align to a villain

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Speaker 1: on ATIV. So her TV persona someone who's getting in

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Speaker 2: All the time.

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Speaker 1: It just reminded me of that Math's glass throwing incident

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Speaker 1: with Dom even with Cyrel. When she poured that bottle

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Speaker 1: of red wine, it was over marfed. It was a

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Speaker 1: glass of red wine. Yeah, a glass of red wine.

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Speaker 1: Now this did surprise me. So the magistrate, Olivia Tumble,

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Speaker 1: she has placed Kira on a diversion plan, which was

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Speaker 1: me last week when Roxy Jasenko was caught throwing out

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Speaker 1: all this alcohol and toys and how everyone was going

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Speaker 1: to that bin. I can just imagine this bin in

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Speaker 1: Malvern and just all the locals just taking out couches

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Speaker 1: to drive by. Yeah, just fitness equipment and what stuff around.

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Speaker 1: Knowing how much Kayla is worth, I've always wondered, could

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Speaker 1: she actually find a house that is good enough in Adelaide.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to shit on Adelaide, but we don't

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Speaker 1: have massive mansions like there's some the Shahins who own

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Speaker 1: the Run on the Run. They live in this beautiful

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Speaker 1: part of Adelaide that there are a few spectacular mansion

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Speaker 1: so I assume that she would live there, But the

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Speaker 1: fact she lives in Malvern, I mean, yes, they have

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Speaker 1: houses for a couple of million dollars, but you know

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Speaker 1: ten million dollar ones that you see on Lusty Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the ones on lux listings sometimes they're a lot smaller,

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Speaker 1: but it's because of the amazing view or the location.

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Speaker 1: I mean in Adelaide, if you're spending say ten million

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Speaker 1: dollars on a house, you're getting a lot more bang

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Speaker 1: for your bucket as well finely, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: why she got a lot of comments about why she

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Speaker 1: wasn't renovating because it was an old home. People joke

462
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Speaker 1: that it had an eerie sort of feel to it

463
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Speaker 1: and that it was haunted.

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Speaker 2: It definitely doesn't look like that now. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people are saying it looks like Kim Kardashian's mansion because

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Speaker 2: it is very white. However, she did say that she

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Speaker 2: wanted it light.

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Speaker 1: And bright, but not like a dentistry, and she also

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Speaker 1: wanted it to feel like you're walking into a luxury hotel.

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Speaker 1: So she did enlist the help of a Noosa based

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Speaker 1: interior designer called Hong Henwood, and I think.

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Speaker 2: They've done an incredible job.

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Speaker 1: But I was surprised that she wanted it to look

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Speaker 1: like a hotel because a lot of celebrities who travel

475
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Speaker 1: a lot, they're always in hotels when they get home.

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Speaker 1: They wanted to have a different fie. Kayla doesn't really

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Speaker 1: travel that much. She is a bit of a homebody

478
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Speaker 1: and loves being around her family. She did mention recently

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Speaker 1: in an interview that she would actually love to live

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Speaker 1: into State if she could move all her family with her,

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Speaker 1: But she also mentioned in that interview with Matt Burris

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Speaker 1: that she would be moving into State for short period.

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Speaker 1: She is currently living into State at.

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Speaker 2: The moment before sure her renovations.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I have to finish on my biggest takeaway

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Speaker 1: from this house to it and it is that Kayla

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Speaker 1: hired a company called Scent Australia.

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Speaker 2: She put a scent through their house.

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Speaker 1: Which goes through the air conditioning system, and she said

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Speaker 1: that all the major hotels use them to create custom

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Speaker 1: sense for their hotels. And we have quite a similar

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Speaker 1: smell to the Crown Casino that it's.

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Speaker 2: Called drink God.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I need one because you guys always say my

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Speaker 1: house smells like dogs. Maybe that is your custom sense.

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Speaker 1: She's running through the shadow and sunny. I was on

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Speaker 1: TikTok the other day and talking about bougie add ons

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Speaker 1: to your house. This woman was saying that her husband

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Speaker 1: had really pushed for this. At the time, she didn't

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Speaker 1: want it. But it's literally a device on your tap

501
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Speaker 1: and you can speak to it and say I want

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Speaker 1: six cups of water and you put your saucepan underneath,

503
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Speaker 1: and it measures it out perfectly.

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Speaker 2: Who needs to be that precise.

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Speaker 1: If you're cooking rice or something? I suppose how much

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Speaker 1: is something like that? Even gost I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: she was saying how.

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Speaker 2: Great it was. It It was her favorite thing about

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Speaker 2: her kitchen. If you guys.

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Speaker 1: Suddenly won the lottery, what's one bougie thing that you'd

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Speaker 1: have as an add on to your house? Oh? I know,

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Speaker 1: I'd have one of those fancy rich people fridges. I've

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Speaker 1: always won a one with the ice and water dispenser

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Speaker 1: on it. And also there's this model where you press

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Speaker 1: a button and you can see what's inside the fridge.

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Speaker 2: Is that really boogie?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm thinking more think of Saffron Barker, how she's

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Speaker 1: got that tango ice machine, something that you wouldn't normally have.

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Speaker 2: Look, I just want a house. At this stage, I'm

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Speaker 2: struggling to buy a house. A house would be nice.

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Speaker 1: I would love a house that had a little studio

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Speaker 1: at the back, to have a really nice podcast studio

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Speaker 1: that was separate and soundproof from the house.

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Speaker 2: That would be.

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Speaker 2: It's really interesting.

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Speaker 4: I think when I post a photo that's been taken

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Speaker 4: on a photoshoot that never performs, as well as an

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Speaker 4: image where I don't have any makeup on and it's

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Speaker 4: me being completely raw, So I think that just goes

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Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers has hit back at a follower who makeup

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Speaker 1: shamed her. The former Miss Universe is currently on a

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Speaker 1: month long holiday in Bali and shared a DM a

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Speaker 1: follower sent her on Instagram which read asking in a

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Speaker 1: nice way. I was in Bali for a month in

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Speaker 1: May June and I didn't wear makeup once, only MISCAA

554
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Speaker 1: and a moisturizer due to heat and my face constantly sweating.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever go without the foundation? When I see

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Speaker 1: you paint all that foundation on, I can't understand why

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Speaker 1: you would do that.

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Speaker 2: Over in Bali. You are a gorgeous girl. Do you

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Speaker 2: really need all that heavy makeup on?

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Speaker 1: Would you confidently go out without it?

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Speaker 2: Sorry?

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to offend you, it is a very

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Speaker 1: genuine question now. Olivia shared her thoughts on the DM,

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Speaker 1: writing I always find comments like this so interesting. I

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Speaker 1: often received them from women, and it's happened quite a

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Speaker 1: lot while I've been in Bally, mainly via dms. I

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Speaker 1: know in their comment this person says it is asked

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Speaker 1: in a nice way, But in my opinion, it's lace

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Speaker 1: with judg what someone chooses to wear, how they do

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Speaker 1: their hair, whether or not they wear makeup is their

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Speaker 1: prerogative and should not impact anyone else. I love wearing

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Speaker 1: makeup and getting dressed up on holidays. I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's part of the fun. I feel like people sit

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Speaker 1: in two camps when it comes to makeup. I think

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Speaker 1: that there's a lot of women who would be on

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Speaker 1: this side of the person who sent the DM saying, well,

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Speaker 1: it's a you're in BALI supposed to be a relaxed time.

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Speaker 2: It's humid and hot there.

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Speaker 1: Why are you putting on so much makeup? I, however,

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Speaker 1: I am on the other camp because I am someone

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Speaker 1: who doesn't like to leave the house without makeup on.

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Speaker 1: And when I do go to Bali, I like to

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Speaker 1: put makeup on during the nighttime and I like to

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Speaker 1: have makeup during the day when I'm in the pool.

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Speaker 1: And that might sound ridiculous. Now I have been makeup

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Speaker 1: shamed myself. I do the same sort.

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Speaker 2: Of makeup every day.

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Speaker 1: I don't really change for what I'm going to every

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Speaker 1: day lab every day glab.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's like the twenty seventeen Glab look. But I

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Speaker 2: have been at the.

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Speaker 1: Shops before when old men have come up to me

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Speaker 1: like I think trying to be nice, being like.

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Speaker 2: Oh you look nice, Oh where are you going?

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Speaker 1: Well, what's your makeup all done for? And like the

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Speaker 1: fact that people feel they have to comment. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was just bumming around the house. Nothing Please don't

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Speaker 1: talk to me for one. But I mean, I just

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Speaker 1: think that there is a lot of judgment. I think

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Speaker 1: that that comment was laced with a lot of judgment,

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Speaker 1: even having to say, oh, I'm not trying to be rude.

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Speaker 1: I hope it's not offensive.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's rude. You don't even know

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Speaker 2: the purse.

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Speaker 1: But there were so many judge things like paint that

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Speaker 1: makeup on, heavy makeup.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say that.

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Speaker 1: I think they were responding to a real that Olivia

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Speaker 1: did and she did use a little paint brush well

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Speaker 1: with the makeup on.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I think she is copying these comments because she has

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Speaker 1: shared quite a number of get Ready with Me videos

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Speaker 1: while But it's like, well, yeah, she's on a holiday,

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Speaker 1: but it's really a content creation trip. She's been there

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Speaker 1: for nearly a month now. Most of the villas she's

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Speaker 1: stayed at have been gifted. She's like a professional holiday

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Speaker 1: or at the point travel she's taking videos holiday. Can

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Speaker 1: I become one of those. That's a great job. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, her whole thing, her whole brand, is that

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Speaker 1: she goes on these trips and she always looks glamorous

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Speaker 1: and everyone wants to buy what she's wearing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, she's there with her partner, Morgan Waterhouse, who is

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Speaker 1: a videographer and photographer. You can see he's walking around

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Speaker 1: with all the kit there. It seems like most of

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Speaker 1: the time they're just taking photos and videos. So of

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Speaker 1: course you're going to be wearing makeup if you're putting

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Speaker 1: out quality content as a model. Yeah. And also, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're going out for nice dins all the time,

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Speaker 1: you're probably going to dress up a bit, aren't you.

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Speaker 1: In her defense, she doesn't appear to be wearing it

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Speaker 1: during the day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What I found hypocritical about this woman's comment is she

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Speaker 1: seems to forget the fact that Olivia is very open

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Speaker 1: sharing her natural skin. She was suffering with acne last

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Speaker 1: year and she was always sharing no makeup photos of

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Speaker 1: her acne, trying to normalize normal skin. Just to stick

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Speaker 1: up for this commenter, though, maybe you know, when you

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Speaker 1: look at people like Olivia Rodgers and You're like, you

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00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: were so stunning, you don't even need to be wearing

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Speaker 1: all that makeup.

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Speaker 2: It might have been she.

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Speaker 1: Can wear it if she, of course it is, but

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Speaker 1: I think maybe she thinks she's insecure about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well do you know who gets all the time?

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Speaker 2: Is that Meredith a Duxby, you know, that makeup artist.

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Speaker 2: She puts so much on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but everyone's like, wow, you look so much better

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Speaker 1: without it, which I actually tend to agree. But if

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Speaker 1: she wants to put it on, it's obviously part of it.

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Speaker 1: But if that, if this person thought Olivia was insecure

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Speaker 1: about it, then why would she message her saying what's

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Speaker 1: your problem with it?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Why does Olivia have to explain to this woman why

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Speaker 1: she chooses sometimes you can't? The tone though, can't be

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Speaker 1: you know sometimes you can. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: loaded questions and what is she actually expecting Olivia to respond, like, Oh, actually, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do wear a lot of makeup because I'm insecure,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, and.

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Speaker 2: Actually I will be not doing it anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't like about it is I feel like there's

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Speaker 1: judgment that you're really vain if you wear makeup, But

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Speaker 1: I actually think it's the complete opposite. Usually you wear

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Speaker 1: it because you are covering insecurities and you're not happy

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Speaker 1: with how you look without it. So how about we

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Speaker 1: just don't comment on whether you've got makeup on or

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Speaker 1: you don't.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's all we've got time for today.

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Speaker 1: If you do want to listen to more content from outside,

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Speaker 1: we are dropping our final installment in the Betcha Deep

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Speaker 1: Dive tomorrow. This episode was recorded on the traditional land

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Speaker 1: of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains.

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Speaker 2: We pay respect to elders past and present,