1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Wednesday, the 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: twenty sixth of March, and I'm Billy. Now. Usually in 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: the afternoon we would be publishing our afternoon headlines, but 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: today we have a very special edition for you. As 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: you would have been able to tell from the title. 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: On this episode, you will hear an interview with Prime 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Minister Anthony Albanesi. Last night, the Labor government delivered its 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: pre election budget, where it committed to tax cuts and 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: energy bill relief, but the documents also show Australia is 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: plunging further into deficit, which is likely to be shouldered 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: by future generations. This morning, TDA political journalist Harry Sekulich 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: caught up with Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi in his Parliamentary 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: office courtyard to ask him about how the budget will 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: address issues that matter to young people. Here is that interview, 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Prime Minister, Thank you so much for time. 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: So the Daily Oss audience tell us consistently that mental health, 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: supports and renting are the top concerns for them. But 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: based on this budget, not much appears to be changing 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: in those areas. So what is in the budget for 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: young people? 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: Well, there's an enormous amount in the budget for young people. Firstly, 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: of course the cutting of further cutting of hex decks 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 3: twenty percent wiped out if we're elected to office and 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: that will kick in in July. 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 4: It comes on top of the three billion. 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: Dollars we've already reduced Shouldn't debt by on mental health. 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: We have increased support as well. What we're doing is 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: having these Medicare mental health centers where people can go 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: in get that mental health support that they need for free. 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: They just need their Medicare card. 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: We're funded in excess of sixty there's more than thirty 32 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: of those centers are open right around Australia as well, 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: providing that support. And in addition to that, of course, 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: we've had a forty five percent increase in rental assistance. 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: That has made a substantial difference and for young Australians 36 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: who are at school and the future young Australians to come. 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: I think the agreement that was signed right here in 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: this space this week with Couensine, which now brings every 39 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: state and territory into the better and Fairer schools funding 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: agreement that was identified more than a decade ago. But 41 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: what this will do is an additional sixteen and a 42 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: half billion dollars from the Comwealth, as well as additional 43 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: funding from state and territory governments to make sure that 44 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: every student in every public school gets the funding that 45 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: they deserve and they need. 46 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: I just want to focus on some of the other 47 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: cost of living measures that was in this budget. So 48 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: that includes the tax cuts for all taxpayers, and also 49 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: the energy bill relief which will be for all households, 50 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: including those who might be on hir incomes. Do you 51 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: think you should have focused on prioritizing those who are 52 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: doing it toughest at the moment, Well, that's and targeting 53 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: that support of cost living. 54 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: Well, that's precisely what you do when you have universality. 55 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: So that if you look at the tax cuts they 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: aimed at, people on that lower rate in particular will 57 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: benefit in terms of the proportion the average tax that 58 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: they pay by lowering that first rate that kicks in 59 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: once you get past the tax free threshold up to 60 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: forty five thousand dollars from sixteen cents to fifteen and 61 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: then to fourteen. That will particularly benefit low income earners. 62 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: It will benefit part time workers, people who are students 63 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: working their way through university or TAFE. It will make 64 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: a difference for them. You can't when you're changing the 65 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: tax scales. You can't change the first marginal tax rate 66 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: and then change it at the top end or not 67 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: see that flow through. But we deliberately have targeted those 68 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: lower middle income earners, which will mean that for average 69 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: Australians will benefit because it's a top up from the 70 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: tax cuts that began this year to the tune of 71 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: two and a half thousand dollars extra dollars in people's pockets. 72 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: You could change those tax brackets though, so they could 73 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: increase according to a measure like inflation or the wage 74 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: price index. Would you consider adjusting the tax brackets. 75 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: Well, we are adjusting in the weedge, we're adjust We're 76 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: adjusting them down, is what we're doing. What we did 77 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: through our tax changes was take four and a half 78 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: thousand dollars of legislative tax cuts that I was going 79 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 3: to receive less and redistributed that to low middle income earners. 80 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 3: And they're the changes that we put through. The opposition 81 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: screen blue murder those changes, said that they'd oppose them, 82 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: said they'd roll them back. Then they said we should 83 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: have an election well, they did what they said they 84 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: wouldn't do, and eventually they passed the parliament because they 85 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: had support from the crossbenches as well, and in the 86 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: end they went through unanimously. 87 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: I just want to zoom out on the budget more broadly. 88 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: We're heading into a twenty seven billion dollar deficit this 89 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: year and the deficits are growing, and compared to last 90 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: year's budget, they're actually estimated to be even deeper down 91 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: the track. Who's going to be paying off this government debt? 92 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 3: Well, what we have done is produced, of course, two 93 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: budget surpass, the first time that that has happened in decades. 94 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: We inherited a seventy eight billion dollar deficit when we 95 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: came to office. We turned that into a twenty two 96 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: billion dollar surpace and then followed it up with another 97 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: fifteen billion dollar surpas. The deficit which we announced last night, 98 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 3: twenty seven billion, is half of what was anticipated just 99 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: three years ago under the coalition. So what we have 100 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 3: done is we've made over almost one hundred billion dollars 101 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: of savings, we have reduced debt by around about one 102 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty billion dollars, and going forward, the budget 103 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: bottom line is two hundred and seven billion dollars better 104 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: than the one that we inherited. 105 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: But compared to last year's predictions, last year's predictions were 106 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: actually a lot rosier than what we saw last night. 107 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: Prime and stuff. 108 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 3: Well, if you look at the midyear economic forecast, they've 109 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: actually shown an improvement and that was just in December. 110 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: What we've managed to do as to get inflation down 111 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: to two point four percent, and unlike unlike what a 112 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: whole lot of economists would say, which was to get 113 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 3: inflation down, you've got to have unemployment rising, You've got 114 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 3: to really put the brakes on and leave people behind. 115 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: Now that's not the labor way, that's not a way 116 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: that I support. So we've managed to get inflation down 117 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: whilst we're provided cost of living relief, not just tax cuts, 118 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: not just energy bill relief, but cheaper medicines that have 119 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: benefited Australians as well, free tape, all of these measures 120 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: making a difference, cheaper childcare, two thousand and seven hundred 121 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: dollars saved on childcare, whilst we've created. 122 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 4: One point one million jobs. 123 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 3: More jobs have been created since I've been Prime Minister 124 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: than at any term in Australian history. Over the last 125 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five years, and our unemployment rate 126 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: on average is lower than it has been. All of 127 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: these measures are combining so that real wages are increasing 128 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: and that has particularly benefited young Australians. 129 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: So, just on climate change, the budget showed us last 130 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: night that after X tropical cyclic and OURFRED, Australia is 131 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: expected to pay thirteen point five billion dollars in natural 132 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: disaster repair. But we didn't see any significant investments into 133 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: cutting emissions or any major climate announcements. Is there a 134 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: disconnect between the government's climate priorities and spending measures. 135 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 4: Not at all. 136 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: We've got in place the safeguard mechanism, the capacity investment 137 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: skin that a driving investment in renewables. What we are 138 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: seeing with the investment that we have in renewables, and 139 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: to take one measure that we had in last night's budget, 140 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 3: three billion dollars for green metals. If we can produce 141 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: green alu medium and green steel in Australia driven by 142 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: green hydrogen powered by solar and renewables, providing the green 143 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: hydrogen that replaces coal in that system, then you have 144 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: an enormous benefit going forward for reducing our emissions as 145 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: well as supporting Australian jobs. 146 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: But those products and tax credits are going to continue 147 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: into twenty thirty six. Based on the government's own official figures, 148 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: you're not on track to meet the forty three percent 149 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: reduction target on two thousand and five levels by twenty thirty. 150 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 4: You bet we are. You bet we're twenty two six, 151 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 4: You bet we're on track. 152 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: We are very confident that what the measures that we 153 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 3: have in place already have at forty two point six. 154 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: But what you are seeing is technology increasing. 155 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: One of the things that we will hit forty three 156 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: percent by absolutely. The development of new industries like green 157 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: or hydrogen mean that if we seize the opportunities which 158 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: are there, not only can we drive our missions down, 159 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: we can support jobs. We can support industries, including new 160 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: industries which will open up. 161 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: What do you say to those people who want to 162 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: see the government going further and faster on cutting emission. 163 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: That we're going as fast as we can whilst being responsible. 164 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 3: We want to make sure that we continue to build 165 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: community support. 166 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 4: We want to make sure we have energy security. 167 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: I see climate change as something that must go through 168 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: all of our policies that we put forward and we have, 169 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: of course the motor vehicle emission standards, that fuel standards 170 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 3: that we're talked about for a long period of time. 171 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: It's taken my government to get those fuel standards in place. 172 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: Just finally Prime mintersta just want you to picture a 173 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: student that's heading to class today, maybe nineteen or twenty 174 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: years old. He's not feeling too optimistic about the future 175 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: of this country. What do you want them to know? 176 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: I want them to know that Australia has a great 177 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: future if we seize the opportunities. There's no country in 178 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: the world you'd rather be than Australia. Where we're located 179 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: in the fastest growing region of the world in human history. 180 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: That presents the opportunity for us to be a renewable 181 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 3: energy superpower. 182 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 4: We need to compete in. 183 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: That region by how smart we are, which is why 184 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: it's good if they're going to university or doing a 185 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: TAFE course. 186 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 4: We need to. 187 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: Make sure that we value that our industrial relations policies 188 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: are making sure that they'll be properly paid. We want 189 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: an economy that works for people, not the other way around, 190 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: and that was a. 191 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 4: Focus of our budget last night. 192 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: It's a focus of my government in our first term 193 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 3: and it will be an even stronger focus in our 194 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: second term. 195 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: Prome Minister Anthony Albineasy, thank you so much for joining 196 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 2: the Daily Os in your courtyard. 197 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks very much. 198 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 199 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: Bunjelung Cargotin woman from Gadigl country. 200 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: The Daily Os acknowledges that this podcast is recorded on 201 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: the lands of the Gatighl people and pays respect to 202 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: all Aboriginal and Torres Straight Island and nations. We pay 203 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: our respects to the first peoples of these countries, both 204 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: past and present,