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Speaker 1: Let's get into it. As I said, it is going

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Speaker 1: Commander Danny Bacon. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Morning, morning lisses.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Now, firstly, commander, I do just want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about the terrible crash that we've seen on Finn Road yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We know that it's alleged that a driver tried to

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Speaker 1: overtake another vehicle along Finn Road but collided with a

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Speaker 1: know that one life was lost. How are things going,

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Speaker 1: you know, how is the other person involved in that

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay, Unfortunately the motorcyclist lost his life yesterday morning,

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Speaker 4: and regard that crash, the driver of the vehicle that

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Speaker 4: a critical condition. This reminds us all that where we

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Speaker 4: four lives lost this year. Eleven of those lives have

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Speaker 4: been in October alone, which is a significant period. Last

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Speaker 4: year we were sitting at forty six lives lost this year,

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Speaker 4: so it's considerably lower than last year.

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Speaker 2: But every life lost is preventable.

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Speaker 4: And I mean that's the key thing here that they're

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Speaker 4: not called accidence, they're called crashes because there is a

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Speaker 4: So that's a senseless loss of life.

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Speaker 1: And I know that you mentioned just saying that the

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Speaker 4: Not at this point in time, So we'll obviously maintain

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Speaker 4: still ongoing. But yeah, he remains in a certainly life

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Speaker 3: Are you calling for witnesses on that one at this point?

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Speaker 4: That there certainly were a number of witnesses there. But

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Speaker 4: certainly if any member has an information in regards to

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Speaker 4: the crash itself, we do us and we come forward.

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Speaker 1: Now, I understand that there was also someone struck by

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Speaker 4: I don't have a particularly information reging a pedestrian strike overnight.

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Speaker 4: But all I will say is there's a number of

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Speaker 1: Now, Commander, there's been a few other quite big incidents,

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Speaker 1: I guess you'd say over the last couple of over

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Speaker 1: One of those was the situation where there was indeed

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Speaker 4: It was twenty fourth of October. She's reported missing and

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Speaker 1: What's the process now is that is a file being

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Speaker 2: The file will be prepared for the Coroner regards to

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Speaker 1: Now we also know that on Friday police arrested Jermaine

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Speaker 4: Miss Ashaw twenty second of October. He was identify as

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Speaker 3: Has he been charged yet he has in.

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Speaker 4: Regards to those particular offenses, Yes he has, so that

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Speaker 1: I know that there was some media reporting that he'd

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Speaker 4: I can't go into specific details cade because he is

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Speaker 1: I guess some people might be asking, if that was

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Speaker 4: One of the reasons is in regards to general public information,

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Speaker 3: He had evaded the police a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he did, And so.

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Speaker 1: I suppose again there will be some people listening thinking, well,

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Speaker 4: As you said, Codie, sometimes these offenses are target offenses

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot going on this week. As I

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Speaker 3: What's been the reaction from the police.

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Speaker 4: Security complements police in regards to certainly the community safety

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Speaker 1: Is there any plans to sort of vamp up or

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Speaker 1: Like you said, you know that security does provide a

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Speaker 3: But do we need more police in our CBD.

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Speaker 4: I think if you talk to anybody that's from the

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Speaker 4: there's a greater need for police. Demands for services are significant.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're taking significant phone calls. It's about one

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Speaker 1: Comara, can I ask We've had somebody get in contact

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Speaker 1: Lines and Durac, do you have any info on those?

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Speaker 4: I don't know any specific ones for any matters this morning,

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Speaker 4: but what I can say is there's three unlawful entries overnight.

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Speaker 3: For Thissen, do you know how many vehicles were stolen

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Speaker 1: Why do you reckon we're seeing a bit of a

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Speaker 4: motor vehicles thefts have stubbornly remained quite high. They certainly

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Speaker 2: So it's that combination of a crime.

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Speaker 1: I can't let you go without asking you about the

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Speaker 1: disgusting and it's like it's a lot, is what I

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Speaker 3: But talk us through.

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Speaker 1: You know what has happened over the weekend with these

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Speaker 4: Yes, and your descriptive of disgusting is one hundred percent factual.

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Speaker 4: It is a disgusting offense. Assaulting. Anybody in our community

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Speaker 4: you're right, We've had three females officers assaulted over the weekend,

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Speaker 4: I said, we need to get real. It's about men

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Speaker 4: perpetuating that violence and we're certainly seeing that within our

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Speaker 4: that assaulting their offices as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's you know, it's a discussion that we

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Speaker 1: continue to have alcohol and the impact that it's having

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Speaker 1: comes to some of those changes with alcohol potentially. Can

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Speaker 1: I ask, so, in terms of these incidents and these assaults, firstly,

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Speaker 1: how are those officers doing.

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Speaker 4: Those officers are recovering for you to say that they

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Speaker 4: are back at work, back protecting our community, back wearing

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Speaker 4: the officers themselves obviously through the mental anguish but also

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Speaker 3: What are the penalties for those that assault police officers?

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Speaker 4: The penalties are obviously, custody in JYLE sentences is quite significant.

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Speaker 4: The penalties are increased in regards to because it's an

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just not good enough. Hey, you can't. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: It should not be happening.

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Speaker 1: It's disgusting behavior, like I said earlier, and I yeah,

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Speaker 1: it annoys me that it's continuing to happen. It seems

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Speaker 4: It certainly is high in regards One assault against places

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Speaker 4: was one too many, It really is, you know, the

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Speaker 4: officers concerned. We're very lucky, that might say very lucky

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Speaker 4: that very lucky received MI in all injuries compared to

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Speaker 4: And we're plice that each of the offendas are apprehended

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Speaker 4: very very quickly. As I said, we needed to talk

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Speaker 4: about men's violence. We need to talk about alcohol. These

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Speaker 4: are the common traits in a lot of the are

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Speaker 4: but also throughout our domestic and family violence.

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Speaker 3: Well commanded, Danny Bacon. We'll leave it there. Thank you

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Speaker 3: as always for your time this morning. Thanks Katie, thank you,